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Thank you! So, IIUC, this means as a result I might sometimes have more than 7 cards in hand, is that right?

Also, to clarify the ranks/values:

in “Pairing”, “Thrill…” (Three), “Full Pairing” (Four), and “Full Shutdown”, each of the “faces” counts as 10, so I can for example treat a Q+K as a “Pairing”, and for example Q+Q+K+J as a “Full Pairing”, yes? However, I can not treat Q+Q+K+K as “Double Pairing”, because again each of them counts as 10, and “Double Pairing” requires pairs of different values/ranks, right?
if I have Q+Q+Q+K+K, I cannot treat them as “Full Shutdown”, because they all have value 10, while they should have different values, yes? or can I?
for checking “Straight Circuit” and “Straight Killotine”, the values of faces & aces are interpreted as: J=11, Q=12, K=13, A=14, yes?
if I have a “Straight Killotine” (Straight Flush), can I also play it as “Flush Cache” (Flush), or not? in somewhat other words, to play “Flush Cache”, can I assume that I can ignore values/ranks of cards, and just check if I have 5 cards of the same suit, regardless of their values/ranks? If not, then does the faces=10, ace=1/11 valuation apply (making faces disadvantageous for “Flush Cache”), or the: J=11, Q=12, K=13, A=14 one?
“Corpo Keys” = A+K+Q+J+10, of the same suit, yes?

Each face card counts as 10 only when looking for a value, for example if you want to exploit a node that has 10 you would need to play 1 or more cards that have a total value of 10. So a jack, queen, or king would work there. This also matters when upgrading your deck when you jack out, as the cards you pull are checked for their values.

However when looking for pairs you need 2 cards that have matching ranks. So for example a queen and a king are not a pair because they are not the same rank. Two queens are a pair, two kings are a pair, and two kings and two queens would be two pair, or in the parlance of this game "double pairing".

Full shutdown, or a full house, requires 3 of one rank and 2 of another different rank. So 3 queens and 2 kings would count as a full house.

You can only play one program at a time, so a straight killotine would not also count as a flush cache.

Corpo keys is a royal flush, which means 10, Jack, Queen, King, and Ace all of the same suit.

akavel16 days ago (2 edits)

Ohhh, ok, thanks, that’s very different from what I understood! I read the following guideline in the booklet, and I assumed I need to follow it: “Aces have a value of either 1 or 11, face cards count as value 10 outside of a straight” - that face cards count as 10 except in programs named “Straight”.

As to the Straight Killotine vs. Flush Cache, I wanted to ask a different question actually, I now see I didn’t phrase it clearly enough: what I want to ask, if I have cards for a Straight Killotine, can I instead play them as a Flush Cache? i.e., let’s say I have 2+3+4+5+6 of one suit, so I could play them as Straight Killotine; but do I have the choice to instead treat and play them as Flush Cache? Or is it required for Flush Cache that the ranks must not be fully sequential, that I can only play a Flush Cache if the cards do not form an unbroken sequence?

EDIT: Ahh, and also then, for a “3 SEQUENCE” Exploit, can faces be used here, or only “number” cards? and if faces can be used, they count as a “10” each, yes? or again as ranks?

NotWriting16 days ago

So one of the inherent assumptions in poker is that you are always playing the strongest possible hand, and that assumption is also true in Card Drives. As a straight flush is stronger than either a flush or a straight, if you play 5 cards that share a sequence and are all in the same suit, that always counts as a straight flush.

Face cards can be used in a 3 sequence exploit. This is another inherent assumption in poker, that face cards have a rank that puts them in Jack, Queen, King order, and that order comes after the 10 card. So for example a 3 sequence could be 9,10,J, or 10, J, Q, or J,Q,K, or Q,K,A.

akavel16 days ago

Thank you! So this sounds like I cannot use a Straight Killotine as a Flush Cache instead. Thanks for the clarification!

FWIW, as I wrote before, I have no idea really about poker; that’s why I have no slightest idea about its inherent assumptions. I did not see a warning in the game’s description that “you must know poker rules to be able to play this game”, so I did not make such assumption :) Part of me asking those questions - other than sincerely just not knowing the answers and trying to clarify and understand how I could play it - is to also try and show to you that there are people like me to whom those poker parts are the furthest from obvious, so you might consider including some such basic explanations somewhere in the rules, if at least in the Full Blown Kickstarter Version, to make sure people with zero poker knowledge can still enjoy this game :)

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