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Oh boy, so..

- Bulls. Slow, expensive, terrible capacity, horrible throughput. They have no dodge that I could easily see, meaning they're hit by so many objects that their health boost is neglected, their anti air is useless by the point you'd have them and that's if they were free. I would rather buy more runners than ever invest in bulls. I suspect half of this is how many less upgrades they have compared to runners (and again, everything about them is very very expensive for bad value). Then we get to their slow unload, not affected by speed rune or boons as far as could tell, no prestige upgrades for the time being. - They're competing for a nieche which is (much) better filled by a different unit. I had expected them to be complimentary such as shielding or pushing a lot of the ore pile, they do not fit as what they are now

- Guzzler. Airtime, it's present with even normal runners, first 2/3 of their stack gets vacuumed down, last bit feels like it's in low gravity, hung in the air a dozen seconds before finally getting pulled in and removed, let alone Gorilla arms. Most of an ore's lifetime, isn't spent on the ground, or being picked up by a runner - it's just spent falling, either from the mountain, or in collection. Possibly more of the latter.

- Gorilla Arms. 'small CD' would not change anything, if anything it might make it actively worse. The only use of that upgrade is being able to have an empty inventory pretty much at all times. I imagine just about any CD would make it so that after their first throw they fill themselves up and return, nullifying the actual boost of the upgrade. Duration of intangibility sounds fine, but I'd actually be against force for the previous point. It would instead be better to change the *angle* they throw things at, getting you more distance for the same force and not just floating in space. (They also don't need any boost when right beside the Maw) - Perhaps non-collision could be gradual? Eg a long time when level with the floor, a short time at the top of the screen, and include a gradual shift for an item depending on height. Makes it so items near the existing pile get the time they need if they stay low, and objects higher up still have the physics and collisions and hectic nature you want, a 50/50 solution

- Runners. I actually wouldn't want to see Runner speed capped, without any singular upgrade such as Pixie crack or Rhino legs, or even their fanatical gem devotion, their speed would be perfectly reasonable for the stage of the game it takes to get there. I mean hell at least one of them is a prestige only resource and the other takes a lot of development in a different building (if not also a prestige upgrade). Their speed is helpful, compensates for other upgrades increasing their rest time etc, mythril armour and such still reduces their speed (excluding Rune of Speed, which is still fine up until level 50).
I read a handful of comments down before initially posting and I didn't see any remarks about aggressive reclaiming or force in this regard. Quite honestly I can't see how force would affect it in this way. Calamities that constantly jostle the ore around, sure, but no Pickaxe or Ballista or Laser force ejecting ores

Hope it answered what you wanted