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Hello great quiz! I was curious how I was getting "Fast" despite having Speed be my lowest stat. I thought that was an interesting discrepancy. I also see that you take suggestions so I wanted to provide some for you, since some I didn't have an answer that felt great, though I understand you might not be able to take all of them.

Question 2: You find a box marked “free on the side of the road, full of various pieces of wood, metal, and plastic. Which best describes your most likely reaction? Proposed Answer: I’d check to see if there is anything that is unique that might look cool and would put on display at my place. I love collecting weird things!

Question 16: You’ve just woken up, and it’s a work or school day. What are you most likely to do for yourself within the first hour of being awake? Proposed Answer: Hit snooze! Maybe hit snooze again! Just give me more sleep, I’m so comfy!

Question 28: You’re on a first date with someone you met on a dating app, with no friends in common. What’s your most likely approach to sharing things about yourself? Proposed Answer: I would see if we shared any similar interests and share why they were important to me or how they shape who I am!

Question 29: You feel it’s time for a change, and you’re reorganizing everything in your bedroom, including the furniture. What aspect of your life is this new layout most likely to support. Proposed Answer: A sense of aesthetic and a taste for something new! (clearing stagnant energy?)

Question 33: If your neighbors were asked about what you’re like, what sort of consensus would they most likely have? Proposed Answer: Some might say I seem like a nice person, but no one really knows me.

I also was curious how the abilities were chosen/sorted through. Anyway great work and thank you for your time and energy <3

Professor Bonsly41 days ago (4 edits)

What a lovely comment, both in terms of content and format! (I'm a sucker for cleanly-written paragraphs and well-placed italics.)

To answer your first question, I've actually seen this Fast/Speed discrepency several times before, but I think your results have set a new record for incongruity - congratulations! The way this happens is that the attributes ("Fast", "Coolheaded", etc) are calculated first - they're what the answers directly affect, and they're the basis for almost* all of the other results. The presence or absence of certain attributes are used to calculate the stats, and "Fast" is certainly the most heavily-weighted attribute when calculating Speed, but it's not the only one.

*there's a few specific answers you can choose that will have a more direct impact on some of the Abilities, but they're rare.

In the case of your particular Fast/Speed mismatch, the lower Speed may be the result of lower scores in attributes like "Reckless", "Shedding", or "Routine-Based", or higher scores on stuff like "Whimsical" - there's more factors, but looking at the rest your results and the answers you suggested, those would be my most likely culprits.

Alternatively, since the stats are calculated as a percentage and always add up to a stat total of 450, it could also be that the attributes feeding into the other stats were just really strong.

As for your other question about how Abilities are chosen, the Abilities are the most direct result of the attributes - almost 1-to-1. So for instance, everyone who gets the 'Fast' attribute will get an Ability directly tied to that. In your case, you got "Swift Swim" because of your heavier Water-typing, but other possibilities could have been "Speed Boost", "Sand Rush", "Slush Rush", or "Quick Feet".

This was a total accident, but I do love that some of the Abilities can potentially explain the discrepencies between the attributes and stats, as you observed. So for instance, if I'm envisioning the Pokemon that matches the description in your results, I'm imagining something that's usually slow, but becomes lightning fast when it's raining.

I hope that answers your questions, and if not, let me know - every time I explain myself, I grow more powerful :)

And speaking of answers, thank you for the suggestions! Here's what I can do with those:

Q2: Funnily enough, I just added the largest-yet answer update (literally a few hours after you posted - rough timing!) but I think one of the new answers might cover you on this one. It's the one that goes "I maybe take a few things that look interesting, just because I like collecting cool things." It's lacking the "display" part, but would that have spoken to you as a viable answer?

Q16: I absolutely love this answer, and I love the way you wrote it! It's totally going in the next answer update, and I think I have the space to put it in your exact language.

Q28: I think this one's valid, but I might need to work it a little bit to make sure that it plays nice with the other answers and doesn't overshadow them or break the question.

Q29: Here's another one that sort of got addressed in yesterday's update, where I added "I'd organize based more on aesthetics than any functionality," except that I think yours actually has a new wrinkle with clearing stagnant energy - that's so evocative and feels different, and I think I'll probably add that one too!

Q33: And one more now-addressed answer, but this feels kind of different. The new one is "They'd all have experienced the same sanitized version of my personality," which feels like the same concept, but it feels like it has a different tone... would that answer speak to you, and if not, what would you say is missing?

I hope that response wasn't too long! I get very excited about these things. Thank you again for the suggestions, for the kind words, and for sharing your results - it always makes me happy to see what people get :)

Estine35 days ago(+1)

This was immensely helpful! I've been sharing this with a bunch of friends and seeing their different results have been interesting. Also seeing a trend with the people I keep around and the results they have been receiving (A lot of Normal/Fairy type results). I could tell in this particular test that the Pokédex entry and the Abilities really tied together to portray this flavorful description of a Pokémon, and so I have greatly enjoyed imagining that in consort with the typing results.

Stats are interesting here. I see that typing bonuses have been put on the wayside, but I think that was a very cool idea!! I suppose my answers is showing that I hold a bit of balance across the board, and that is what it's prioritizing. Part of me wants to feel that unique blend of hyper differentiation and nuance, but that's more of a me thing then a stats thing. I was wondering if there was a way to break the limit so to speak? The way I understood you was that I received Fast, because I hit certain markers, but not enough additional speed markers to outweigh the percentages in the other categories. However, what if my results were so high in categories that it went over the 450 allotment? To account for the weighted strength of my answers. Perhaps I like long stat bars too and am sad that I did not receive one. So this paragraph was more of a ramble of ideas let's go, than constructive. I suppose incorporating stat bonuses from strong Pokémon type results could aid this distinction for those that have a strong showing of a type since it's a way to achieve the bonus without messing with your algorithm.

It seems all my answers are up for consideration for being added to the future, except Q33, so I'll respond to that (I did see the change in Q2 and was like that's perfect for me!). Q33 is really interesting. I think what's missing for me is that "sanitized" implies like a polite, mask that you put on for strangers. I think where it differs for me, is that I think I'm a warm/nice person in general and if you interact with me that's your first impression of me. However, I do not necessarily share myself or develop relationships with neighbors. So I could see them saying that oh this person is nice, but I can't tell you anything else about them. Basically warm introvert energy, versus the outgoing response that shows connectivity and bonds, where one of your neighbors really knows you or the "sanitized" version that implies you are withholding aspects of yourself to keep the peace. If one of my neighbors really knew me, I'd assume a friend had moved into the neighborhood and I'd differentiate them from other neighbors that I have a distant but warm and pleasant relationship with. Simultaneously if I felt close to a neighbor, I'd probably stop referring to them as a neighbor and calling them my friend.

While I'm here I'd like to echo the support on marshawk's take on the big test question. I was going to originally suggest something similar, but decided against it. I thought maybe the 2nd answer was close enough, but historically that combination of faith in my own knowledge/light brushing up also meant that I thought I would do well/ace the test versus just a passing grade. Which I think speaks to confidence and faith in your mental capabilities.

It seems like we might both like long, thorough replies. So I just will again thank you for your time and generosity for hearing me out. <3

Professor Bonsly27 days ago

First off, thank you for sharing this with your friends, and for your kind words about the results, I'm so happy that you find them flavorful! I actually really like that metaphor/language, I'm gonna just marinate in that for a bit :)

I think I found a bit of a happy middleground for the stats, where they're still solely the results of the various attributes, but the attributes used have become a lot more focused, so stuff like 'Fast' became even more closely tied with the speed stat. With a more narrow focus, I think there's a lot more potential for more extreme-looking results, but without sacrificing what the stats actually mean.

So... heads up, the next several paragraphs were written when I was misunderstanding the meaning of "what if my results were so high in categories that it went over the 450 allotment?" - my reading brain is a little off today, and I originally read that as a "what would happen then?" type of question, but after writing the full response to that, I'm only now realizing that you already understood this and were offering a suggestion for how things could be calculated. (I left my overexplanation in anyway, because there is technically some new info in there - might be interesting, feel free to take it or leave it!)

To the suggestion though, I would say that I want to avoid deliberately allowing a stat total of greater than 450, to avoid giving someone objectively "better" stats than someone else. (Although as you'll see, it can still techically happen....)

Regardless, this project is constantly evolving (no pun intended!) so getting feedback like this is always valuable, even if I can't implement it at the moment!

OVEREXPLANATION START ---

No matter how strong one stat is, your results would still never go over 450, at least not because of one stat being particularly strong. So, the attributes feeding into stats (Fast, Coolheaded, etc) are averaged, and then that average is graded* on a scale of 1 to 10. So let's say those gradings were:

HP: 1, Atk: 1, Def: 1, S-Atk: 1, S-Def: 1, and Speed: 10 (this is absurdly unlikely, maybe even impossible, and as extreme as it can get!)

The total of those would 15, and so the Speed stat of 10 would be calculated as a percentange of 450, like so:

(10/15)*450 = 300

and then each of the other stats would be:

(1/15)*450 = 30

So then we'd get 300+30+30+30+30+30 = 450

*this grading is not just 1-to-1, and is specifically set up to draw a greater distinction between more "average" results - so for instance, the gap in between grades 5 and 6 is very small, the gap between 6 and 7 is a little bigger, the gap between 7 and 8 is even bigger, etc. The purpose of this is to make more average results a more dynamic, while reserving more extreme grades for exceptionally extreme results.

The only way you could get a bigger or smaller stat total is through rounding, since all stats are rounded to the nearest 5. I have tried doing it without rounding, and this might be a matter of personal taste, but something about it just makes everything look more confusing/messy/unsatisfying.

So like... if the stats were 73, 73, 73, 73, 73, 85, all those 73s would get rounded up to 75, so you'd get a total 460. I figure this 440-460 range isn't a huge difference, but I just don't want to cause it on purpose.

OVEREXPLANATION END ---

On to answer stuff!

Q33: "Warm introvert energy" REALLY speaks to me! I'm totally with you here, and that question definitely has space for another answer, so I'll put something a little more nuanced in the next answer update! :)

Q25: (The test question) Totally hearing you and marshawk on this one, and that's gonna go in the next update as well!

Thank you too for taking the time to write such thoughtful comments, it's a joy to respond to stuff like this :)

Estine13 days ago

I just wanted to take the time to say thank you! I always enjoy a nerding out or over explanation. Looking forward to the next update. Hope all is well as the year ends. <3

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