rereading this thread a hundred times to try and figure out what they said that got you SO upset. All they said is that they want the communication to be a little more clear and that being forced to use discord sucks, which it does and I'm saying that as someone who has used it since 2017 lol. I've also been looking for more info on 0.9 since it's supposedly coming out soon and I really dont care to join a whole server I'll never interact with just to learn something that could be a blogpost. i really dont understand why youre white knighting so hard. youre being more toxic than friskyfennc ever was
Nah, they really didn't, though. Being rude in an online and a public community like this is something that I think needs to be tampered down on, and frankly, I'm more than happy to help with it, whether or not it's necessary from anyone else's perspective. I am, as you put it, "upset" because I want people to talk online to others the way they would in the real world. I feel that their original comment is not something that should be said to another human being nor a group of people putting effort into making something that I clearly care a lot about if I'm this willing to talk for this long and interested in spending so much time in forum discussions. Thus, here I am.
I'm not disagreeing that Discord sucks - it does. I'm also not disagreeing that the VotV team could do better with their communication skills - their skills could be better, but as I've attempted to hint at several times (and stated explicitly now) now, I'm kind of frustrated with toxicity in online spaces. I am approaching each scenario with what I feel to be the correct amount of "aggression" (as you might put it) that I think is necessary for the context. I'm sure I could be better with something or other, same as with the VotV team and the team behind Discord, but we're all doing our best with the skills we have, so please forgive me if I come off in a bad light for whatever reason. (Edit: I've been using Discord since 2016 - what does that have to do with anything, though? Even if I had no experience with it until just right now, I could still tell you that it sucks as a platform. Why does the age of one's account on it matter in the slightest to the current conversation at hand?)
Also, what does white knighting mean, in your mind? Because I have been and am still currently willing to criticize MDN and the VotV team, I'm just not going to let toxicity exist without calling it such. If I was white knighting, I imagine that I'd be a lot more permissive of flaws and inconsistent with my points, but I'm not and haven't been, so I don't know why you're using the term when it's not applicable. If anything, it certainly sounds like you're doing a little bit of white knighting yourself, based on my definition - I've already addressed several of your points in at least one of my previous responses to friskyfennec, which you should know, since you apparently already read them.
It also does not escape me that you didn't really bother to respond to any of the points that I've made, almost like you're not interested in actually having a discussion on the initial topics mentioned, or you just didn't fully grasp any of the points I've been getting at if you even did read everything.
Simply put: Available time > nonsense!
The facts are:
The game is there for everyone.
Support if you want.
Join the Discord if you want.
They DO NOT have good communication on Itch.io.
Their Discord is ridiculously polluted with completely out-of-context topics or "deep down" lore in an unrealistic story presented in a childish way, designed for 12-14 year olds who like waifus and anime.
The 0.9 test version is already available.
They are very attentive to reported bugs and, even with SEVERAL broken issues in the "bug report," they are still releasing fixes.
So: Enjoy what you like and like it if you want, but the fact is that Discord is necessary for more information.
And if "someone" think that discussions on the internet should always be civil, you are naive, a troll, or have nothing better to do.
Happy Halloween!