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Below, my timers for skins, beasts, rebirths (RB) & bonuses for the past 5 days (right now it's H124.5;).

M=minute, H=Hour, D= Day

RB	Time	Skin	Beast	Arena	Bonus	Diam
0	M1 (D1)		Revenent			0
	M2		Toterror
	M4		Ref
	M12		Green Bean
	H1		Slug
	H2	Witch Doctor
	H3	Skater
1	H5				PI X2
	H7	Pirate
2*	H12	*Orc	Porky		Faster Mystery	1
	H24 (D2)	WD Orc
	H25		McFeatherH
3*	H27	Slug, *Wizard	Lidz		PI X4	1
	H33	Wig		500
	H34		McManBun
	H37	Secretive			(50 X2)
	H38-39	BigMouth	MetalHead	1k
4	H40.5				PI X16	1
5	H52 (D3)	Karat, Monster	ML Marketer	1.5k	(arena, 10 D)	11
6	H57	Alien, Zombie			(200 ChZap, 5 SkullC	23
7	H61					36
	H72-73 (D4)	Voidgazer	BigMouth
8*	H73	*Undead B, Ninja			(50 D)	88
9,10,	77,83					152,211
11	H93 (~D5)	H Knight			(250 D)	253
12,13	100,106		Scop Creep			363,525

More detailed: https://sharetext.io/d8f4e5b7 (view as text)

HTH!

Zimpzon113 days ago

Amazing!

Zimpzon113 days ago

I was thinking maybe the start was too slow? How does it feel?

loophoc113 days ago (1 edit) (+1)

I didn't feel it too slow, 2 rebirths within the first 12 hours seems quite a lot compared to the other idle games I've been playing.

There are midgame small walls (eg. before X16) that are avoidable with a intermediary rebirth or... with patience.

All together the game is remarkably faster and more enjoyable than during my first run. Good job!

Edit: thanks for the Stats page <3

Suggestions:

the floating tootips (beside the left column) shouldn't step over neither the top bar nor the bottom bar. Imo, they could be embeded in a static position rather than aligned with their respective skill: their horizontal axis and the left column's could be constantly aligned.
the clicked chests popup sometimes disappears below or gets truncated by the left column or one of the 3 other limits of the arena. ~~It could bother... anyone triying to count the chests~~ :D not anymore! we now have a chests counter \o/

Zimpzon112 days ago

Did you minimize the window or keep it visible? I just realized credits were waaay slower when window was minimized. This is now fixed in latest version.

loophoc112 days ago (12 edits)

AFAIK when the tab/window is closed/truely hidden (when the tab isn't directly visible in a browser window) credits just stop incrementing since arena is defined OFF.

I never minimize a browser window (constantly working with 3 different browsers - Vivaldi as main, then Chromium, finally Firefox for easier Godot compatibility) on 5 virtual desktops, I just move it to an other virtual desktop, eventually hibernating tabs if needed.

As I told, I'm using multiple virtual desktops to keep the tab/window active even if it's not visible to prevent CPU/GPU overheat (yes, your game is an heavy resource consumer on light configs, especially on CPU+G chipset resources when the game is visible).

About your game, the lacking of "true" idling is concerning: the complete lack of progression in arena and credits gain when the tab is hidden/window is closed (maybe when minimized too) is slowing everything since the main tool is gaining credits to gain diamonds to earn an higher multiplier after a rebirth. TBF, I've seen warnings about "browsers' recent tech is the cause of issues with idling" for over a decade and still, lots of devs have managed to find an hack :) I'm pretty sure you will too ^^

/poke: can you really ask your customers to keep your prog visible at any time to progress?

I wish arena wouldn't be depending on the game's ON/OFF status :P

Below, this PC's config (I may not be part of your primary target!):

Host: OptiPlex 7010 01 // CPU: Intel i5-3570S (4) @ 3.800GHz

GPU: Intel HD Graphics

RAM: 7828MiB (+ 8Go SWAP)

Primary HDD: Crucial RealSSD P400 256 Go

OS: MX-23.6_x64 Libretto (Kernel: Linux 6.1.38-2)

8 or 16-bits like aesthetics have been tricking me for years -_-" these games keep getting heavier.

Zimpzon112 days ago (5 edits) (+1)

Thanks for all the details! I used the wrong word (also in the change log, I'm afraid). It's not just when minimized, its when not visible, as you say. Credits now continue to accumulate, just a normal income does. Since your window was hidden, progress would now be much, much, even though Arena is still not running. For better or worse. I can probably just scale your results by a factor I need to figure out. The order of things should be about the same.

Edit: you spent 11.5 hours going from 1 to 11 diamonds? The new rate doesn't look to be faster than that . Hmm... I think it will be left as is, it's a slow process to do thorough testing. Thanks again!

"/poke: can you really ask your customers to keep your prog visible at any time to progress?"

Unfortunately I can't fix that now. If it was built from the ground up for this I could at least alleviate it, but not now. I've seen other idle games with the same problem, ex clicker heroes, which tries to simulate your time away when you get back.

Running as a Windows build there wouldn't be that problem and I'm going to include one when I think this is a version 1, which I kinda do now. Did you notice anything that is must-have, besides the Arena problem?

Thanks for the testing, helps a lot!

loophoc111 days ago (1 edit) (+1)

Credits are now accumulating even if the tab is hidden, kudos and thanks! and neat visual improvements, too - I like the hovering effect on the left column.

loophoc111 days ago(+1)

And the tootip placing is much better now :)

loophoc111 days ago (1 edit)

Just for fun, the color scheme I've been toying with for years:

https://imgur.com/a/palette-kitty-linux-terminal-41zXP1z#aJjLMr4

Zimpzon111 days ago(+1)

It does look good...

Zimpzon38 days ago (1 edit)

Do you mind if I use your color scheme? It looks amazing for something I'm doing. I had to add a darker color for background, but if I can use it I imagine you could give me a "real" RGB instead.

loophoc20 days ago

Sorry for the very late answer.

Be my guest! I'd be honored.

Zimpzon20 days ago

I think it looks great, but as mentioned I had to add a new color for the background. I hope I didn't destroy it completely.

Edit: Weird, it will not allow screenshots. I just get an error. You can see it here. Press X a few times until you see your color scheme.

https://zimpzon.itch.io/earl-in-space