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cdelorme99 days ago

My problem with smoked meats is they require a 10 SUR investment to craft, and restore 6 less food than Good Soup which requires no trait investment. For a meager 8 large copper you can afford the round trip to fishtopia and the full leather set to boost SUR and increase fruit and veggie spawn rates.

As for cash, using stealth and a weak strike from behind to KO the stray goblin babies and you can pick them up. As many as you can carry, which makes CON / Succubus builds amazing for this. A stack of 12-18 goblin children will net you 2-3 gold coins, and if you can’t make the trip back in a day you can use the Breast MOD (A) to produce enough milk for the day change, but it is possible to enter the northern tower 3-4 times from the start of daytime, and with full stamina make the trip back to Elise by sprinting on the world map. You can of course also rescue the women and grind the orkind ears repeatable quest for additional rewards from the guild.

As for experience, while saving captured women is certainly fruitful, I found that clearing one-time quests on repeat via rebirth can be nearly twice as fast to reach level 99. A much less monotonous grind spanning approx. 2 hours before world level reaches 20 while making enough gold to sail away without any exp loss following this list:

Rat Tails from Tutorial for 2 Large Copper
Optional SCU 15+ Sneak into noble district and prostitute virginity for 6-7 Large Copper
Herb Delivery to Elise for 2 Large Copper
Missing Caravan for 1 Large Copper
Cecily 1st Quest for 1 Gold
Elise 1st Quest for 6 Large Copper
Missing Daughter for 1 Gold
Milo’s Invite accept to kill Adam for 5 Large Copper
Elise Cutscene 1 (He casts Fireball on a bat; move or get blown up)
Elise 2nd Quest for 3 Gold (He uses a wingless bat as a onahole; Lona gets cum on her)
- Starving Mermaid for 2 Large Copper Coins (you are already here, and it’s pretty easy to do)
Cecily 2nd Quest: Betray for 15 Gold
- 10 Gold Coin for handing over info
- Another 5 for bringing Cecily into his trap (this is much more effort than the initial 10)
Sell ID Papers for 1 Gold

Not a Slave Trader98 days ago (1 edit)

cdelorme - "My problem with smoked meats is they require a 10 SUR investment to craft, and restore 6 less food than Good Soup which requires no trait investment. For a meager 8 large copper you can afford the round trip to fishtopia and the full leather set to boost SUR and increase fruit and veggie spawn rates"

Is the 10 SUR levels a lot for ya? BTW - If you play on Hell or DOOM difficulty most of your Vege/Meat/Good Soup just... POOF!!! It does't exist in Hell or DOOM reality after clock strikes 100+;)

...therefore 10 SUR stat mostly for Hell or DOOM difficulty players;)

10 SUR stat is also helps in the Abomination Lands because you can make Mysterious Smoked Meat which reduces the risk of getting some disease or depressed mood -> but... you can’t do that until you personally level up 10 SUR stat for Lona because you don’t have this recipe...

Good Soup costs nothing if you try to sell it somebody while Smoked Animal Meat or Dry Meal is good to sell.

Starter Hunter farm build -> 1 Club + 1 Lamp + 10 SUR stat + 1 Horse ↓↓↓
1 Smoked Meat = 220 TP => 8 Smoked Meat = 1760TP = 1 Large Copper Coin (almost)
1 Dry Meal = 150 TP => 12 dry meal = 1800TP = 1 Large Copper Coin
In half a day you can make about 25-30+ Smoked Meat and 50-60+ Dry Meal = +/- 8-10 Large Copper Coin
therefore 1 Gold Coin per 1 day at Lona LvL 11 = 20 Gold Coin per 20 days (Not the best way... but one of the safest ways to farm a lot of money at start as Hunter/Warrior).

If you don’t level up your SUR stat then you waste a lot of real time just on cooking and most of the time you’re wearing only one outfit (Leather Set) just to survive... which kinda boring to me...

Not a Slave Trader98 days ago (3 edits)

cdelorme - "As for cash, using stealth and a weak strike from behind to KO the stray goblin babies and you can pick them up. As many as you can carry, which makes CON / Succubus builds amazing for this. A stack of 12-18 goblin children will net you 2-3 gold coins, and if you can’t make the trip back in a day you can use the Breast MOD (A) to produce enough milk for the day change, but it is possible to enter the northern tower 3-4 times from the start of daytime, and with full stamina make the trip back to Elise by sprinting on the world map"

Yeaaahh... but If you install the Breast MOD (A) then you still spend quite a lot of time trying to quietly stun little goblins because If they know that you have milk then they will try to attack you... which means you have to constantly wait until they turn their backs to you to stun them (or you have to chase them with a club like crazy)... and also this is a big chance of monster wave because of agro little goby (You may not save the women = no extra EXP and Coins)... and when you throw a stone to distract not only the little goblins can come running to this noise but everyone else too = bodyblocking = veeeerryyy annoying sometimes...

...and another problem is randomness because:
1 Goby baby = 1 Large Copper Coin, 7 Small Copper Coin (10 weight)
1 Ork baby = 4 Large Copper Coin (20 weight)
So... 2 Goblin baby = 3 Large Copper Coin, 4 Small Copper Coin (20 weight) => you're losing 6 Small Copper Coin
Therefore if you have 300 carry points welp... you can only carry 29 goby to Elise without overweight which sounds pretty cool buuuut... it's impossible because you need a lot of milk to keep them in your inventory and in most cases you will have to wait a very long time for the milk to appear... I was only able to take 12 Goby because Lona has no milk = 2 Gold Coins + 4 Small Copper Coin (It’s especially annoying to watch 12 times as you feed milk)...

...and you can easily lose time if you are attacked by bandits because of which you will not have time to reach Elise with extra 6-8 Goby...

Is it really good method? Maybeeee yes... buuuut i don't really like it especially if you play on DOOM difficulty.
I would even say -> I don't hate it... or something like that... buuuut If I had used this method then only as a nice cash bonus but not the main income because playing as Nympho Lona the prostitution work has almost the same income (...and also good EXP) and with this case much less problems than Goby trading...

cdelorme98 days ago

A fair point, I haven’t played on hell or doom difficulty, and I don’t usually let my world level pass 50. Correct me if I’m wrong, but world level and difficulty does not increase experience or money awarded? In that case, you’re choosing between a challenge or efficiency, and I favor efficiency. I can always change the difficulty after I hit the level cap. Regarding the higher difficulty, does all food expire, or just soups? I also didn’t know that mysterious smoked meat could reduce disease, is that explained anywhere?

I eventually aim for 15 SUR because hitchhiker feels OP, but if you aren’t at a decent level SUR doesn’t help with most builds, so Good Soup is way better until you can afford the points (eg. level 50+), and by then the profit from smoked meat is far outclassed by saving women or baby farming.

As for saving the women, they move super slow, and even if you use acolyte healing them doesn’t remove their chains, so you can’t tell me using stones to distract the babies is slower. I guess if you are playing above world level 50 maybe it gets more challenging, but before then I’ve barely ever had a problem. You can always kill the 2-3 strays, save the women first, then pop the bodies for an extra 2-3 babies to collect.

The RNG factor applies to saving the women too though, since the moot only award exp not coin, and while there will always be at least 6 possible babies, there can be anywhere from 0 to 5 women in the northern tower. I guess you could prioritize just saving the women without having to make a trip back due to weight or breastfeeding due to day changes, and if you really wanted to collect meat at the same time you could rent a horse, but I firmly believe baby farming is anywhere from 2x to 4x faster for making money.

The exchange rate for the non-standard smoked meat is way lower, you’d need something like 400 humaned smoked meat, or around 230 mystery smoked meat for a single gold coin.

I haven’t played much with the prostitution mechanic, is it possible to actually make a decent income that way? Is that only possible in the nobles district, or is there a trick to it?

Not a Slave Trader97 days ago (7 edits)

cdelorme - "A fair point, I haven’t played on hell or doom difficulty, and I don’t usually let my world level pass 50. Correct me if I’m wrong, but world level and difficulty does not increase experience or money awarded? In that case, you’re choosing between a challenge or efficiency, and I favor efficiency. I can always change the difficulty after I hit the level cap. Regarding the higher difficulty, does all food expire, or just soups? I also didn’t know that mysterious smoked meat could reduce disease, is that explained anywhere?"

- - - LonaRPG difficulty - - -
- Hard difficulty for be-beginnErs... and the Hell and DOOM only for true MEEEEEEEENS!!! khm-khm... ULTRA BFG RIP AND TEAR GIIIIIIRLS (Lona) phahahAAAAaAA~ Khm-khm... (Just a typical game difficulty joke - don't take it to heart)
- On Hell and DOOM difficulty all food expire exept for Smoked Food (Sausages too), Bread, Cheese, Nuts... aaand... white liquid that can be obtained from 2 beetles or 2 semen... so it's harder to survive due to lack of food
- On Hell and DOOM difficulty your HP no longer recovers if you use rest button
- On Hell and DOOM difficulty preg state is muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch longer... Seriously... 30 days... to become a Sea Witch... just... WHYyy? Even SB stack won't save the day
- On Hell and DOOM difficulty you can't leave the area while battle icon is still ON (you can't leave location while you are in the middle of a fight)
- DOOM difficulty only have auto-save... and... you can't open menu while you are in combat... which makes the game feel even more... um... like life? which is full of consequences... (but because of the bugs i still hate DOOM difficulty... can easily lose your save file because of the game error crash... or because of bad random -> softlock bug)
- Hell and DOOM difficulty has achivement survive a certain number of days

...but after about 2000+ hour on Hell difficulty... it's not a big deal but more like annoying thing sometimes (I personally still want a difficulty rework) but anyway it's more interesting to play (to me) than on Hard (veeeeerrrryyyy easy difficulty).

- - - World Danger LeveL - - -
World Danger LeveL make more monsters = more drops and meat = more money (if you can kill it of course)
World Danger LeveL factor is -> 0-24.5 -> 25-49.5 -> 50-74.5 -> 75-99.5 -> 100

And also... I don't know why... but when World Danger level = 100 ...it feels like the rewards from chest are much better... hmmmmmm... is it real or just coincidence? (unconfirmed fact)

cdelorme - "I eventually aim for 15 SUR because hitchhiker feels OP, but if you aren’t at a decent level SUR doesn’t help with most builds, so Good Soup is way better until you can afford the points (eg. level 50+), and by then the profit from smoked meat is far outclassed by saving women or baby farming"

Not really... because If you are in some dungeon/cave, it's much easier to collect meat inside and cook Smoked Meat than every time running into the forest or mountains for vegi to Good Soup and wasting more time + you can kill creatures and cook a Human/Humanoid/Mysterious Smoked Meat (10 SUR required)... you literally don't have to leave this cave because you always have a lot of Smoked Food

Good Soup has only 1 advantage -> Increase a lot of MOOD that Smoked Meat can't really do
The difference in food bonus is to small to say that this is a big Good Soup advantage...
I mean... are you seriously?
Smoked Meat = +26 Food bonus
Good Soup = +32 Food bonus
...therefore 10 Good Soup (320 Food bonus) = 14 Smoked Meat (+312 Food bonus)
considering the fact that the Smoked Meat can be made almost anywhere but Good Soup is not
Is it a big difference to call it a serious advantage? I don't think so...

Yeahh... maybe saving womens and goby trading is better than food trading but like i said this is one of the safest and easiest way to make a lot of money without a big trouble same as prostitution

Actually a lot of SUR stat more needed for the class which eat a lot of STAmina like Mage Lona + SUR stat is also helps you not to die from your own spells because SUR stat = Magic DEF stat - which helps quite a lot when your lightning strikes 40 HP per 1 hit (1 lightning = 40x4=160)... and in general a large number of SUR stat very good for Lamp damage which deals burning damage 6 times per 1 Burning Effect

Burning effect
10% chance Head and Chest injury (More damage)

Burning damage (Lamp) = ((10 STA dmg + your SUR stat) + 6 HP dmg) x 6 = 60 STA dmg and 36 HP dmg
0 SUR stat = 60 STA dmg and 36 HP dmg
10 SUR stat = 120 STA dmg and 36 HP dmg
20 SUR stat = 180 STA dmg and 36 HP dmg
30 SUR stat = 240 STA dmg and 36 HP dmg
40 SUR stat = 300 STA dmg and 36 HP dmg
50 SUR stat = 360 STA dmg and 36 HP dmg

Total STA damage - Enemy SUR stat
Total HP damage - Enemy DEF stat

...but I still don't understand the logic of how STA damage is calculated because:
If Lona SUR stat 0 and enemy SUR stat 0 = 10 STA dmg and 6 HP per 1 tick
If Lona SUR stat 0 and enemy SUR stat 1 = 8 STA dmg and 6 HP per 1 tick
If Lona SUR stat 0 and enemy SUR stat 2 = 7 STA dmg and 6 HP per 1 tick
If Lona SUR stat 0 and enemy SUR stat 3 = 5 STA dmg and 6 HP per 1 tick
Am... just... 10 and after 8 and after 7 and after 5?
1 enemy SUR stat = -2 and 2 enemy SUR stat = -3 and 3 enemy SUR stat = -5?
What the formula? -2, -1, -2, -1, -2, -1, -2, -1, -2? WTF?

BTW - any class can use a Lamp but this is one of the best weapons for Nympho Lona (or Musket but need a lot of WIS stat) because she has no good weapon (Lamp and Musket veryyyyyyyyyy good for hunting)

cdelorme - "As for saving the women, they move super slow, and even if you use acolyte healing them doesn’t remove their chains, so you can’t tell me using stones to distract the babies is slower. I guess if you are playing above world level 50 maybe it gets more challenging, but before then I’ve barely ever had a problem. You can always kill the 2-3 strays, save the women first, then pop the bodies for an extra 2-3 babies to collect"

- They move super slow because you were too slow and someone had already inflict a wound
- You can put up a Flag of Justice near by and speed them up (yes it really works - you save about 25-30 seconds)
- Northern Goblin Tower is not the best place to save womens because there is a place where they literally go in a straight line -> a small hat occupied by monsters near the mountain church (can be easily saved in1-2 minutes) just Rush-B to the little hat and take them all with you and then stun some goblins and just go straight to exit = ease a lot of EXP and easy a lot of Money (you don’t really have to leave this location because there is a free wood and many animal meat - you can literally farm here endlessly)
- If you have a Cannibal skill you can gain some extra human/human flesh (I easily collected about 200-300+ in about half an hour) which can be sold in the Noer bank or Elise without commission (Horseee is really good for that).
- You can use save-load tactic and there will always be a lot of women there...
- There are practically no traps there if you run in a straight line (the Goblin Tower is full of traps and there is too little space to ignore the traps)

Like i said before -> the Halberd + Saving womens is the one of the best way to get a lot of EXP and a lot of Money at the same time when a little goby trading is good only for money farm (if you do both you will waste more time) and this method mostly for Nympho Lona only because you need many CON stat which is not beneficial to everyone and if you level up the COM stat to much... this method becomes more difficult (you will easily kill a little goby with 2-3 punch hit) while saving womens can be done easily for almost any classes and almost everywhere where there are caves or dungeons.

If you like your little goby trading more, welp... it's your choice but I personally still don’t think that this is best method of farming but more like a good cash bonus.