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So I figured it mostly out, going to leave explanations for what I believe the mechanics to be
1: Seeds always pop up under 100 yen or occasionally higher, it is NOT worth it to go for seeds except in amounts of 1, 50, or 1000. Any other amount and you will usually get less than what it's worth.
2: The game functions in transformation lines, with your base form being one of them. You CANNOT transform if you have progressed any amount on the "hungry" line.
3: Progression on any transformation line, including the hunger one, will regress whatever line you are currently on.
4: The machine is not going to give you rarer things if you dump a ton in, instead it is like a code system. So far I have determined that 150 will always give a cola, and 50 will always give you 50 seeds
5: Each line appears to have 5 transformations
6: Foods appear to be organized into groups of items. I suspect these groups are bug, flesh, sweets, soda, and seeds.
7: The hunger transformation will only regress the other lines one stage at a time, so you can progress a bunch along the seed line and use the time to accumulate items for the others
8: The goal is to collect food, not money

If anyone disproves one of these please let me know?

ShatteredSol98 days ago

Is there anything else that requires codes? Like, how do I get sweets?

Crystalbinja98 days ago(+3)

Hi!!! I've spent the past few hours figuring out how to decompile the game, and I can confirm some of what you're saying! I had just been trying to grab the different transformation forms, but I ended up recovering the original code too. I'm trying to sift through it right now, and am working on a Google Sheets file with information.

1) Based on what I've figured out, the game creates a pool of potential items based on what you drop in. Items are added to the pool after a certain amount of yen is added, so that means that if you're below a certain number, those higher items are impossible. Everything less than 100 is guaranteed to be apple seeds.

2) Can confirm! The hungry line is actually titled as the anorexia line in the files. There's also the default sprites, anomolous line, holllow bride, parasite line, perfect line, and the unhealthy line.

3) Unsure

4) Going based off of what I said in #1! After 100 yen, some more items start being added to the pool. For example, at 100 there's molded bread, sun dried termites, cicadas, soft drinks, water bottles, etc. The higher you go, the more items are added to the pool, including better ones. Items are added at 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 50, 100, 150, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, and 1,000 yen. I don't think that other misc increments between the item limits affect what you get, so it's better to save up.

5) This is true for some of the lines! The healthy and unhealthy lines have 5 transformations, but the others have only 3.

6) In the code, items are tagged with being either "healthy", "unhealthy", "liquid", "parasite", and "anomaly". Some of the items can have 2 of the tags at a time. Interestingly, the food sprites are bundled into "anomalous", "disturbing", "normal", and "specials". I think only the tags influence things though!

7) Unsure

8) I think that that's a good way to summarize it! Hoard the food you need for your transformation line.

sasdasx97 days ago

thanks Crystalbinja, the sheet is very helpful for transformations

ChaoticNeutralCzech97 days ago (5 edits) (+2)

Search for my comments in this thread, I also made a spreadsheet and it looks like ¥10 and ¥150 are best for surviving (especially if thirst gets critical), and then only ¥100 (and ¥500 if you have the coin) are worth it for the other routes, as they offer best variety of liquids, anomalies and parasites. I haven't tested this but for ¥100, the 11% chance of ~~healthy~~ anomalous liquids should be enough to get the top stage of the "liquid" route:

(here is the second one:)

In the item_dir array, the 0th member of each element is the hunger satiation, the 3rd one is the thirst satiation. For example, "antarticwater" restores 5 food and 30 water. The best satiation to cost ratio is 1 for a single apple seed but it's tedious to farm so I always go for 10, which gives 5.

Naterocker97 days ago (2 edits)

What causes that transformation? Is it certain liquids because I try to drink a lot of water but nothing seems to change and I'm at a normal state if that matters.

ChaoticNeutralCzech97 days ago(+2)

I haven't achieved it either, I don't have the patience to play and check but it's called "hollow bride" in the image files and "liquid" in the code. The code for it is different from the Parasite and Anomaly paths but I haven't been able to reverse-engineer either, it's a bit of object-oriented mess. However, upon closer inspection it looks like healthy liquids might not actually increase the liquid level, see last line:

for keys in [Content.UNHEALTHY, Content.PARASITE, Content.ANOREXIA]:
    if health_lvls[keys] > 0 and val_count <= 3:
        health_lvls[keys] -= 1
    else:
        val_count += 1
        if val_count == 3:
            health_lvls[each] += 1
            if count.has(Content.LIQUID):
                if count[Content.LIQUID] > 0:
                    pass
            else:
                if count.has(Content.HEALTHY):
                    if count[Content.HEALTHY] > 0:
                        health_lvls[Content.LIQUID] -= 1

Anyway, ¥100 is best for anomalous liquids too (11 %: bottled blood/eyes/sewage) and ¥150 for unhealthy liquids (100 %: Kola Classic/Zero/Chost). So maybe anomalous and unhealthy liquids are a way to go?

Alfagammon97 days ago(+1)

It seems the liquid path is very likely not working

ChaoticNeutralCzech97 days ago

I can't rule that out, I'm not that good at reverse-engineering code, especially object-oriented like this. I'd probably have to make a debug copy of the game and where I can spawn food and watch the variables. Also, this is from v0.1.00, which is not up-to-date anymore.

BTW there is more unused code, for example a mother character with another hunger meter

and a script for a short VN featuring a character named Elias, and it seems only the code of the dialog boxes was ported from that.

Beluerf97 days ago

Thank you! This is absolutely useful ^-^ I'm glad I was right on some things and wrong on others.

DedRed32 days ago (1 edit)

Could I give a suggestion on what to add to your spreadsheet? When you get an item, a number pops up on the "current money in vending machine" thingy. I figured out that if you put that exact amount in, example: if you put in exactly 187 coins (the number of coins goes up with time), you'll get the fetus in a bottle. I know it'll probably take a while but if you'd like, I could help send you some of the exact numbers :3

Crystalbinja31 days ago

Hi! I appreciate your comment, but those values are randomized per game. There are a few that always have the same code (like appleseeds), but the other codes are randomly assigned a number when you start a new game.

DedRed26 days ago

Yeahhhh, I had a feeling once I played through more LOL

GhostTvT64 days ago (1 edit)

Hola!, acabo de jugar un rato, y de experimentar un poco, ya que si os fijáis bien en cada objeto que os sale (Además del aparente Gambling, ya que la mayoría os salen "aleatorios") que entre muchas comillas, al parecer cada objeto tiene un número fijo al salir de la máquina expendedora, si ponéis esa cantidad es más probable que os salga el objeto (quitando las pepitas de manzana de este parámetro, claramente) aunque no estoy 100% seguro, probé con una botella de agua en la que el código es 134 y cada vez que insertaba esa cantidad aparecía lo mismo, no creo que sea casualidad, así que deberíais ir probando y ver cada número que sale al salir el objeto así os es más fácil buscar qué objetos queréis

(edited) apparently my assumption is correct, in addition, any object that has 6000 coins as its number, is an object that appears randomly and cannot be obtained by inserting a specific amount of coins, enjoy your game

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