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Also, there should be a bar for either submission or dominance with the NPC if you look at their “profile”. Its color is black and can be raised fairly easily by choosing to flirt submissively. Sometimes it won’t be an option and that may be either because your compliance is too low, the person is not interested in you romantically or they do not have the personality traits that allows for you to become their submissive. Off the top of my head, these are the ones I know of:

  • Dominant
  • Assertive
  • Bully

Hm, it requires them to be interested romantically? I'm curious if the dev realizes that, because that might be a bug. If not a bug, it's rather unintuitive. But maybe it's just because dom/sub relationships are currently flagged as romantic relationships?

That’s what I’m thinking. But I’m in an open relationship with the Best Friend NPC and I have several doms as well as subs and it’s not marked as cheating when I go on dates with them. I tried flirting with submissively with one of my hatefucks turned friends (due to having good sex so much he turned friendly about me since that increases both friendship and lust lol) but then he wasn’t interested anymore and the option was completely removed. Also, since he isn’t interested with sex with friends I kind of softlocked myself into not being able to sleep with him anymore, haha which is funny. I fucked him so good he doesn’t want it ever. I do wish that hatefucks with high friendship turn into friends with benefits or even “situationships”, haha.

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Huh. Sounds like there are a lot of different mechanics going on behind the scenes that don't necessarily play well with each other. But it's hard to tell what is and isn't intended, since so much of it is hidden from the player.

But, I do know that hatefucks can become doms and remain doms even with high friendship. That may be because the relationship is suddenly flagged as romantic as soon as you submit to them even if you've never done anything romantic with them at all.

What’s also crazy to me is that even if you don’t go on an official date, if you interact with your sub/dom after the relationship change you receive the “officially dating” romance milestone lol. I do think sub/dom relationships should be marked as their own thing rather than romantic.

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Oh, they will be, eventually. When dom/sub relationships were first added, Anthaum said marking them as romantic is only temporary because it was the best existing mechanic to use, but it will be changed later.

Neat! Can’t wait to see that :)