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Well I do have suggestions but they're likely to range from possible to impossible since I'm unsure how the game is structured with its scripting and what you're able to do with it.

1: A sort of cat n mouse chase idea with a single test, a single high AI teacher that always follows the player, all exits need to be touched instead of just two.

2: Broken vending machine, the player has to rely on items spawned in the map. Items could probably have a higher spawn rate.

3: Max AI Circle, vending machines/spawned items are only Oreos

4: Patience and endurance, a test is spawned in every room possible with wrong answers only, teachers start at lowest AI and gradually increase for every test taken.

There's a lot more I could probably list since I like coming up with ideas, hell I even have ideas for items that could actually fit with the game. But as I said before, I'm unsure of the possibility.

UnidentifiedShifter226 days ago

1 and 4 are "impossible" since the game can only spawn 10 notebooks at a time (could be changed but would probably break a lot of things)

2 and 3 are possible to implement, just need to edit some code and they will be good to go.

For the second challenge, do you mean the vending machine AND the notebook finder machine or just the vending machine ?

I would like to hear what item idea you also have if you don't mind

pink_zazel.226 days ago

Had a feeling about 1 and 4 lol. As for the second challenge, just the vending machine.

As for the item ideas, I had a few of them based on arts n crafts and school subjects.

Like a bottle of glue could be used to temporarily glue a teacher in place to keep them from moving.

A pair of scissors or an eraser could be used to temporarily disable a teacher's attack. (Think of it like cutting/erasing their arms off, just not visually on the models. Could have a sound cue for it instead.)

A beaker bottle filled with a green chemical that could be either super helpful or very dangerous, a luck based item to gamble with. (If it's possible anyway, I was just thinking it could copy an effect of other items or hurt you a bit.)

UnidentifiedShifter225 days ago

Well then I don't think I will implement your second challenge idea, however your 3rd challenge has been put in the game and will be in the next update/patch or whatever.

As for your items idea, the bottle of glue is probably the most interesting one and MIGHT be implemented at some point.
For the two other, I don't real want to implement scissors/eraser since I think it's too dangerous to use it on a teacher, as you would most likely either miss it or take damage before using it (unless you want it to work like "An apple for Baldi" in Baldi's Basics, and would be used automatically and take the hit for you).
For the green chemical, I just don't really want player gamble with it, people wouldn't understand how it work too (unless I add poster around the school to explain how it work, which would feel out of place in my opinion)

(Also do you want me to credit you for give me your ideas ?)

pink_zazel.225 days ago

Would the test finder need to be disabled along with the vending machine too or does it just not work?

And I would say the scissors/eraser being missable could work as it COULD be similar to throwing an Oreo (it too can technically be risk/reward since you could miss throwing it at Circle). But I think it working like "an apple for Baldi" could work really well.

For the green chemical, my original idea for it was to create a temporary wall to block teachers, but I felt that would give problems for the AI that already seems to like getting stuck in places?? But then again you can stand in front of them and they eventually change paths too, so I'm unsure about it. I feel like the gamble could still work somehow if maybe toned down.. OR..

Going off that poster idea, I feel it would make sense if the poster itself was put in Miss Bloomie's spawning classroom. It doesn't have to explain OUTRIGHT, it could just look like a chemical recipe where it shows items being added like "speed + health + soda = strange chemical??". Something like that anyway. To make posters not feel out of place, you gotta make them IN place.. so the health and speed chemicals (I assume they are anyway) could have something about them in Miss Bloomie's room too. Miss Circle could probably have something in her room regarding Oreos too. Posters advertising the soda in the cafeteria, etc.

But anyway, credit me if you'd like, I don't mind much.

UnidentifiedShifter224 days ago

The test finder doesn't need to be disable along side the vending machine, I just find it boring to JUST have the vending machine not work. It makes barely a challenge.

I could see the erasor being used like an oreo but I just don't think it would make sense to have this as an item in game. It wouldn't break anything to add it but I just don't like the idea of it in general.

Going back on the green chemical idea, making it have a random effect isn't that bad honestly now that I had time to think about it, there is still the problem of telling the player how it work (the icon could be the chemincal with a question mark on it), which brings me to the posters.

The posters won't be a thing for a while, I think since I'd rather focuse on some other part of game like making the school bigger (the second floor is small as f*ck and in the animation you can see that the school has 3 floors so yeah), when I'm gonna make the posters probably some in the hallways like "stay hydrate", some in cafeteria with like "finish your plate" and/or "clean after yourself", in library saying "quiet, people are studying", etc....

I think I will credit then, do you prefer me using something else then a screenshot of your itchio account ? (Cause I would rather have to take a screenshot of an other media account like Youtube, Discord,etc... not forcing you of course)

pink_zazel.224 days ago

Ah, I see, no problem cause looking back on it I can see how the challenge wouldn't have much sauce unless there was forced higher teacher difficulty (which could potentially make the challenge borderline impossible with even less frequent items). Though, there could be an altered version too where theres no items at all with teachers being difficult but not impossible, giving enough challenge of trying to still escape them.

As for the eraser, that's pretty fair honestly. I wouldn't say that it makes no sense for it to exist though, at least in an instant universe way. Though if not for its original purpose, perhaps there could be another use for it one day, you never know!

As for the posters, I could help with those if you'd like! I like drawing and it could prolly help with my art block if you lmk specifics and details you'd like (if you want of course).

And sure! My discord username is actually the same as itchio display, pink_zazel. (My discord display name is sin. and I'm roboto147 on reddit with the same pink_zazel. display name, in case you'd use that instead.)

UnidentifiedShifter224 days ago

Two things :

First, WHAT!!!! YOU ARE ROBOTO147!!! I RECOGNIZE YOU FROM REDDIT, I REALLY LIKE YOUR ART TOO

Second, go ahead you can make poster for the game if it's not too much to ask you, you could send them to me with discord (Have the same username as this account)

pink_zazel.224 days ago

Aaaa thanks!! That really means a lot to me :D

I'll most likely send a friend request over discord later and ask for details for the posters, but if I forget (I can get distracted easily lol) you can remind me or go ahead and send a friend request yourself and I'll notice! (Though itchio replies get noticed way later since I get a notification about it like.. five hours after a reply??)

Toonly_Arts140 days ago

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pink_zazel.140 days ago

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Toonly_Arts139 days ago

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