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Bad endings? I fully support that

NTR? Absolutely not.

At one point, I saw that there would never be any NTR in this game, so I stood by it. Close call situations are completely different than NTR, and Bad endings don't need NTR to be bad.

Endings like one of the Heroines ending up 6 feet under, or even the MC himself getting a pair of cement shoes... Hell, I was surprised that Sakuya wasn't a bad ending herself!

But that would mean that the stat points would have to matter, and that would mean things would have to be timed properly on the dev's end as well.

For example; working out doesn't make a difference right now. Once you're past that point, somehow you're just assumed to be strong enough for every scenario to work. You can take down the three thugs, which you couldn't before. You're strong enough to get that restaurant job. Hell, you're probably able to take on Akira at this point.

That's kind of an ass pull, considering you worked out for about a week.

The bad ends are there, waiting to get fleshed out. We just want to get the good endings, so there's no real point to putting them in at the moment when the rest of the game hasn't been fleshed out.

Hell, just a "Macumba bad end" being put in for going to sleep instead of bringing Macumba the walkman that night would be great.

Again, let's stay away from the NTR though.

endswithxic257 days ago(+6)(-3)

I support this guy request, I hate ntr with a passion.

Tom256 days ago(-1)

well, in a way, (i hate NTR too) NTR is usualy a partener being stolen, a bad ending could imply r*ape/death and horrible thing like that, but that would'n be NTR in thoses cases, since the heart of the character would'n be there (and furthermore, to be NTR, the character should be in a relationship first)

so let's not be confused about what NTR is and what people think it is

seeing how the game is made, i higly doubt there would be thin like NTR where the character is being swept away before being completly fond of the bad guy (exepct maybe with Yasuka, considering the drug)

i can relate by what you mean tho

MentalMan255 days ago(+3)

Uh...no. NTR, as a genre, is all about evoking the visceral feelings of jealousy and despair from the readers. The relationship aspect is always optional. It's always important not to be caught up with the technical definitions of genres, otherwise, almost all piece of media would be tagged as action.

Tom254 days ago(-3)

not really, the main definition of NTR, for Netorare usualy (because there's Netorase and Netori too), Netorare is when the wife, girlfriend, ir interest of the main character is being swept away by a third party being involved with him in a physical relationship, starting to deveop feeeling for the other

Netori is the opposite, you are the one stealing a woman by forcing a love interest into a woman already in a relationship

and Netorase is about the same, but they do it willingly

from what i know, the "Neto" imply that they, by a way or another, willingly or not, discover that the other party is cheating (welp, cheating is when the relationship with a third party is hidden)

so, evoking the visceral feeling of jealousy would rather be Netorase, that play in it, with the mc wanting or being ok with his partener to bang with someone else, the feeling of jealousy being probably the exiting part for him (or else why would they accept something like that)

usualy NTR are just tagged NTR, but there's 3 category of it so, people tend to think NTR mean only one thing

well, all in all, Netorase is moist certainly the less worst of them, because all concerned people are willing, though NTR is wrong in every way

AKPancakes246 days ago(+2)

Hold on,

I do (mostly) agree with your definitions of Netorare, Netori, and Netorase (always more details and fans arguing over them), I feel like you're only using the abbreviation NTR for Netorare.

Netorare, Netori, and Netorase all fall under the larger category of NTR because the abbreviation can be used for all of them. There are even more sub genres which don't follow the naming trend of NTR, but are meant to evoke similar emotions (GTR and BSS)

regardless of whether or not people accept BSS under the NTR umbrella, the fact remains that in the end; It's all about sex with "other people" that makes someone feel bad, whether it be an innocent boy losing his track star girlfriend to the rapist coach, or the guy who has a bully using meat rod magic hypnotism to make everyone he loves start to hate him and think he's pathetic.

NTR is just way easier to say, and everything else is semantics.

MentalMan243 days ago

"the main definition"

What did I say about being too caught up in definitions again? Also, no. The "feeling" aspect of it is present in Netorare. Actually, much more. Since Netorase is actively sharing your partner to others. That one, however, does require some sort of relationship beforehand, mechanically speaking. Netori is being in the perspective of the one "stealing." They're all different fantasies for different types of people.

Netorare is about the gut-wrenching feeling of someone you desire gets "taken" from you. Humiliation, jealousy, and, at times, rage.

Netorase is having others desiring that someone, and them acting on it. Hotwifing, basically. The fantasy is the openness of it. The "reclaiming" part is a frequent addition to that, too, though not necessarily.

Netori is the fantasy of "taking" that from someone else.

There are overlap at times. There are Netorase that devolves to Netorare. Big surprise. And there are Netorase who fantasize the Netorare aspect of it. Netori and Netorare's connection is obvious. But they're all different things.

But, yeah, as someone who's been in too much internet to actually know these things, here are the "definitions" you can use if you're really set on having one. Ones that are actually accurate to what they represent.

Dragonvents252 days ago(+1)

yeah, i think there no need NTR, maybe you just don't have a good relationship with girls when you don't take efforts for them, but they don't get rape or death,....

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