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I understand your point. I used to think their ESG policies would rule their standards for what games to host. I'm not 100% sure.

From GOG I read a VN called "Slippery Richar He's Taller than my Husband" (fake western name) which is all about blackmail extortion ntr sex and racist premises of black men as sex beasts in the eye of japanese people, and also racist notions from western people toward japanese people as sexually incompetent at a cultural and physiological level.

So I think maybe GOG has some hope of still be defending freedom of expression, but I must also note that this VN was published in GOG 3 years ago, and maybe things changed. Still, the game is being sold there to this day.

In any case I'm not sure of GOG stance which I why I wished for this dev to try selling it there. Maybe telling us how did it go after.

MarkoH01230 days ago (1 edit) (+1)

Long time GOGer here and unfortunately I will have to agree, GOG even refused to sell the uncensored version of "Nie No Hakoniwa - Dollhouse of offerings" even though it has been offered to them. They also refuse to host the announced uncensor patch for Tokyo Clanpool and many anime games on GOG are censored and require offsite patches.GOG simply does not have the backbone to accept this game.

Siwkann230 days ago

Can you name an adult game that requires an offsite patch in GOG?

MarkoH01230 days ago

Among those I already mentioned: Huniepop, Kirakira Stars Idol Project (all three games are mosaic'd on GOG but not on Itch.io, Denpasoft, JAST USA, Fakku, MangaGamer or Nutaku), Seed of the Dead 2: Home, Paranoid. Some adult games on GOG are missing the unrated patch completely and in some cases the unrated patch will just give you the mosaic'd version. Take a look at the vndb you will probably find even more.

Siwkann230 days ago

Seems like GOG is kind of a mess with games uncensored and others censored and others apparently uncensored but with content cut. It seems to have to do with publisher's decisions and GOG's policies at the time the game was published, because Huniepop and Kirakira are some of the earliest adult games to get there and there was probably not much support for adult content yet. GOG seems to be following Steam steps, including the mistakes. Thankfully it seems all games can be uncesored, and all games with "unrated" patches are uncensored. If you think they are censored because of the mosaic, you must accept that's the publisher's fault, not gog, and there's no fully uncensored version in those cases, because they just didn't demosaic the original japanese version.

Siwkann230 days ago

Ah hey add me to friends on GOG I'm Siwkann we could talk about gog and censorship.

Siwkann230 days ago

I just compared some FAKKU games on GOG with the uncensor files and noticed those uncensor files already exist on GOG as exact same copies, meaning the GOG version already has the uncensor files, and VNDB is wrong. Jesus what a mess.

Siwkann230 days ago

For other fakku games this wasn't the case as they did indeed need a patch. Other fakku games have an unrated patch so likely they won't be a problem. Still a mess.

Siwkann230 days ago

Oral lessons with chi chan made me realize VNDB can't be trusted fully. It's a mess of missinformation about censorship.

MarkoH01227 days ago

Hi, just added you (did not realized that you meant GOG and could not find any option to add afriend on itch :D)
At least thea re korrekt with the Kirakira series. I downloaded the patches and opened them directly with an asset viewer. Still censored ...
But yes, such databases usually are made by the community so it is not that untypical that at least some information is wrong. That is why I think that forums are such a good thing. Here you can ask actual owners of these games if they are censored or not.

MarkoH01229 days ago

As I said there are several ways to get a completely uncensored version if the Kirakira games - itch being one of them ... just look it up in the vndb.

Siwkann229 days ago

I mean all older VNs had uncensored version in more adult friendly sites. It was the way it was when adults games came to Steam. We had to rely on patches on Steam all the time. I believe you that game and huniepop are censored in GOG, just like they are on Steam, but that's the way it was back then, and we always had to rely on patches, while adult friendly platforms didn't need patches.

Nowadays GOG is much more open to adult content though it depends on publishers and their relation with GOG whether the game will have the patch as dlc or uncensored in the base game.

The boss of Kagura Games told me some about that and the FAKKU issue. Hey add me to friends.

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