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I’m not on either side here, but I do feel it’s understandable to feel misled by the developer. The issue isn’t just about whether the original 'coming soon' features were completed. The developer explicitly stated, 'Remember that if you already bought the game, you do NOT need to purchase it again. The game is bought once, and you will always have access to all future files I upload.' That clearly implies that future updates, beyond just filling in 'coming soon' gaps, would be free.
Now, the Steam version has extra features that itch.io buyers don’t get unless they pay again. That goes against the original promise. If the dev had been upfront about changing their plans, that would be one thing, but instead, they left itch.io buyers behind while giving Steam players extra content. Whether or not the itch.io version was 'complete' by their definition, the fact remains that early supporters were misled.
I'll start this by saying I quite literally bought the steam release the day it came out. So I am quite literally a supporter of the game. I bought it on itch.io and steam.
I changed my name so people wouldn't go snooping on other accounts that share the same name. (In fact it's kind of disrespectful to reveal what I changed it from. You not heard of privacy? Like that's not cool dude. I get that you may feel I changed it to pretend to be multiple people??? I have many more things I do outside of That's not my neighbor. I changed it because my original name links back to many other accounts in that name. So for my own privacy reasons not related to that's not my neighbor i changed it. There's many more things to do on itch.io that are not related to that's not my neighbor.). Nothing wrong with changing your name. Does my name not change everywhere? I assumed all past comments would be changed to my new name. So I don't really see the issue. You can go back to any of my old comment and see I'm the same person no? I apologize if it doesn't change my name on old comments. However from what I can tell it seems to.
You have gone out of your way to make ART of these replies. You have done illustrations, my man. That's wild. Nothing I have said is factually wrong (Either I've quite literally quoted things and added opinions to things being either misleading or inconsistent). People are completely valid to assume they will receive free updates with those comments. A smarter move would have simply to have called it "That's not my neighbor 2". Make it clear it's a different thing. A whole "remake" for steam is not made in a day, a week or a month. It takes a long time. Possibly up to 6 months who knows. There was more than enough time for the developer to tell his loyal fans that "A steam version will be released. It is a different game and no more updates will be given to itch.io". Heck just simply saying "This is the final release of the itch.io game". Doesn't even have to say he's making the steam version. That way he can't be accused of dishonesty...because...yeah. It does feel misleading to say any future files will be free to then release future files on another platform that isn't free.
Also, I edited my comment because, yes, you didn’t directly tell anyone they shouldn't have an opinion or have to change theirs. You were clearly trying to enforce that with your weird illustration screenshot comment. It was clearly implied you are trying to convince people that the game no longer showed "upcoming features." You wouldn’t have done that if the intent wasn't to tell people they are wrong to expect upcoming features. However like you pointed out you didn't directly say that despite it clearly being the intent. So I removed it from my reply because I was acknowledging you was right. I was quite literally agreeing with you and changed my comment because I agree you were right. Like....did you want a separate reply to simply say "You're right you didn't directly say that". It seemed more appropriate to simply edit it and align with what you pointed out. Like.......i'm really not sure here. I changed it to be more what you wanted??? Yet you're still upset? Also a lot of people edit comments to slightly adjust some spelling/grammar or even add something they forgot to say.
I have worked for many many indie developers. I have spoken to many many indie developers I have worked with. Even indie developers who have worked on similar sized games. I will not say because I don't want you running over to their games to complain to them. I showed them the scenario and they all feel it was dishonesty from the developer. Mostly due to him having ample time to tell his fans a steam version will be released without updating the itch.io version. It's just not a good move to keep you fans in dark. The backlash is...to be expected. He is only human but he still had more than enough time to think. I feel you see this scenario like the developer didn't have time to think about what he was going to do. Like it was a split second decision without any thinking time. That's just quite simply not the case. Again it likely took many months to remake the game on steam.
People are justified in being upset. That's...just the end of it. You are fine in not being upset. That is completely fine. You're allowed to not be upset. Other people are allowed to be upset though. At the end of the day your main defense is "That's not what he meant by that though" basically. Which is a fickle defense. As I've said plenty. It's mostly inconsistencies that make the developer seem strange. That's the main part that urks me. him claiming he wanted to give the game free on steam for everyone but couldn't. For him to then say in replies that he feels the new game is enough to deserve a repurchase. He's saying conflicting things. Like...yeah there's no way to justify that. Those things conflict...simple. They just do. I'm justified in pointing that out and pointing out there is inconsistency in that. At the end of the day for me personally that's what I don't like about the developer.
if he flat out said from the start it deserves a re-purchase and he had to remake the game so it deserves it. Yeah that's fine. Claiming the only thing stopping him from giving steam keys for free is steam itself limiting how many keys he can give (Which could be entirely true. Which is fine). This indicates he wanted to give the game for free....no? Then obviously the big one of "Why not just release it on itch.io", (which comes from me and plenty of people). If he wanted to "give steam keys free" then..that's also a valid thing to say. He could have just updated it on itch.io. Like...yea. Again that would have been a solution. Can still remove being able to purchase it on itch.io because he wants people to move over to steam but also could have made it so anyone who had the game on itch.io would just receive the new files.
I am not wrong in pointing these things out. What I'm pointing out is factually what has happened and even quotes. It's an opinion that I feel there was deception going on. However I am still justified in feeling this way.
Enjoy whatever makes you happy. Apparently, it's defending random developers online when they're called out for being inconsistent. Then putting way too much effort into your replies. You have way too much time on your hands. Drawing an illustration doesn't somehow make anything you say any more valid? I....just think you might have to hear that.
Edit Addition: Sadly we live in a world where complaining and pointing out inconsistencies from developers it the best way to see change. Negative reviews encourages positive changes. So it's reasonable to expect people who are upset with something to make that vocal and also leave negative reviews because that's the easiest and best way to be heard and encourage a positive change. Do I feel the amount of hate is justified? Only when what is being said is valid. However there seems to have been people who seem instead be bullying. I do not agree with this.
I will no longer be replying to anything you say.
EDIT EDIT: I did not realize he actually did it. He updated the itch.io version!!! He is now back in my good books! Good man nacho