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Hi, Raven! Thanks for dropping by and this is an excellent question! ^.^)/

First thing first, let me tell you about my priority list. When I make a visual novel, the first one on the list is the Story Plot. I need to at least complete the rough draft of each route before I commit myself to making it. The second is Worldbuilding + what Indonesian Culture I'd like to introduce you to. Honestly the worldbuilding is often a mix of my fantasy + the culture involved. In Winged Ones, Omed-omedan comes from Bali so I inserted a little Batik from Bali + the village houses resembles real Bali houses. The same can be said about Caci Dance. Because the dance came from the Manggarai people (Flores/East Nusa Tenggara), the Komodo tribe wears the specific clothes/batik from there too + their houses resemble Manggarai's.

Winged Ones also has the unique birds/animals you can find in Indonesia. Rama symbolized Cenderawasih, Mitra is Javan Hawk-Eagle, and Reksa is Komodo Dragon.

If you lookup at the mini encyclopedia, everything kinda connects to one another in a way. Like how Rama wears Papua Batik because Cendrawasih is from there. And there's also a mix of Javan Batik due to the existence of Javan Hawk-Eagle. But Javan people doesn't live on tree houses mind you 😂 It's an original concept of an Avian tribe (some live on tree houses while some prefer to be on the ground to preserve energy/avoid children having accidents, more specifically those who haven't learned how to fly yet)

Basically, there are lots of culture mixed in together in my attempt to make an original concept/world while still respecting my culture.

Are you with me? I wish I can do a better job explaining it ^^;

However, I admit, there is limited information I can give you about Bali/Manggarai people. Because I haven't go there myself so I can only do online research + look up real photos from people who have actually gone there. I also consider it might be a good idea not to delve too deep since it might distract the readers from the Main Story Plot.

In any case, I always do my best to explain/introduce the culture I used via the mini encyclopedia.

I hope I answered your question! Thanks again and see you around :3

P.S. I don't have a wikipedia/a website of my own so I can only explain this way～

Raven212 days ago (1 edit) (-5)

Never heard of that at all. But good to know.

And I figured. The name "Komodo" was kinda self-explanatory.
But it doesn't tell me what kind of culture his tribe is in.
I mean, it helps knowing the general area is based on Bali tho.
(Are people there as cute as Reksa too? ^_^ )

His people is clearly a warrior culture.
Is the Manggarai a warrior culture?
Or are they more inspiration for the bird people?

I'll run it through my AI.
It's excellent in digging up info on things like this.
....within it's 1000 words limit at least. lol

Based on the behavior of Reksa and the people in the village, I can theorize that strength and warrior skills are important.
The talk of honor and dishonor (with the face scarring and battle prowess) hints at an honor-culture.
(Which isn't exactly uncommon outside modern western civilization. And is also common in many warrior cultures.)
I don't know if the way Reksa acted with the mc is his personality or not, but the fact that no one else reacted to it makes me think that claiming a woman without asking her permission AND that his rival thought he could claim her at all indicates a 'might makes right' mindset.
But it's tricky to be sure what is culture and what the the manipulative/corrupted hot guy's imposed rules.
Except Reksa DO talk about what duties are expected and stuff like that, so I think he could be used as a moral guideline....

If you want to offer proper world building of your world, without interrupting the story, why not create the world at World Anvil, or a similar page, and link it?
That way people can choose if they want to learn more or not, outside the gameplay itself. ^_^

I used my AI assistant to help me create a theory on their culture (for my fanfic).
(Most of it comes from tribal warrior cultures, and similarities in them. Paired with what little I could gleam from the game itself.)

Could you tell me if I'm hitting anywhere near the mark?

https://www.tumblr.com/sweet-succubus03/776894329724813312/the-way-of-the-komodo...

Obviously I need to adjust it with this new info, but as a baseline....

(Oh, and I know he's not adopted in the game. That part is for the fanfic I planned. Cuz.... Just look at the two characters!
Black hair.... Green eyes.... Duknow. The likeness just hit me when I played it. lol)

Raven212 days ago(-2)

I added a new and (hopefully) improved version to the post I linked below, using the info you sent.

Sadly my AI do not know of the people you mentioned, so research is thus far a bit basic I fear.

But I'd love to hear your opinion. ^_^

SweetChiel211 days ago (2 edits) (+3)

Uhh, have you read the encyclopedia? Bali and Manggarai are 2 different people/places ^^;

Bali is located at East Java, while Manggarai people is from Flores/East Nusa Tenggara. They're 2 different places--2 different islands. That's why the Avian & Komodo looks have different culture. (Bali = Avian/Loma Village, Manggarai = Komodo)

I think you're confused about this (or we have some miscommunication). I only used Manggarai people as reference for the Komodo due to the Caci Dance they performed. In real life, It's not a brutal/violent ritual at all. It's a war dance ritual that symbolizes friendship/a showcase of strength & goodwill. It is performed to celebrate events such as harvest or to welcome guests of honor.

If you want to learn more about Bali/Manggarai, I do not recommend using AI, my suggestion is to do some research on books or even the wikipedia. They will give you more info/facts about them～ I don't dare to say much about them since I haven't visited them myself (like I said in my reply before)

The concept of 'a warrior tribe' is used for both Avian & Komodo people who is at war with each other. You get to see the more peaceful aspect with the Avian people, but they do fight (Mitra with his double knives & Rama with his knive). The Komodo people will feel more brutal/violent due to their nature of placing strength & body size above all + you get to see them fight with whips (Caci Dance reference used here but I turned it into smth more serious/brutal than the real life version).

It's from my fantasy, therefore, readers are free to imagine what kind of tribes they are. I added some hints/prompts in my visual novel (about their history, behaviour, hints about their matchmaking/wedding rituals, etc)

But in the end, readers have the freedom to imagine what the Avian/Komodo tribe is like and that's why it's fun.

Raven211 days ago(-4)

I'm pretty sure I would have flunked geography in elementary school if it was possible. ^_^;
I don't even know where Bali is located, to be fair. Sounds...Asian........? lol
(And as may be obvious I just fed the AI the info I did know, and let it fill in the blanks --Bali is as good setting as any, from what the game looked like, since they share the same continent, so the nature will look the same, even if the tribal customs are different.)

Although I admit the AI isn't exactly infallible. I will have to do some fact-checking later if I want to get it precisely right.
But for any fantasy setting, the best source will always be the author. ^_^
I know that some authors are very touchy about someone using their story and get things wrong.
But you do seem a bit more laid back about it.

But thanks for the info. ^_^
I did use the Manggarai people to try and figure out the Komodo culture.

And I see. I used the Caci dance idea the way it's portrayed in the game, and with what the guy said about it.

No, warrior tribes/people are specifically referring to the kind of tribe (or nation) that makes going to war central to their lifestyle.
(Like the Romans, or the Camanchi native american tribes, and your Komodo tribe who seem to appreciate strength and warrior skills more than peaceful pursuits.)

Most nations go to war over something, but it doesn't make them a warrior tribe.
(Like your bird people, who seems to prefer peace over war.)

But regardless, I just wanted to figure out the background for the Komodo tribe so I can use it for my fanfic.
And it's hard to write about a child growing up in a place --and the following culture clash with british wizarding society-- if I don't know the values and everyday life of the Komodo tribe he'll be raised in.

I realize real life will be a bit different from fiction.
So that part is mostly to fill in the gaps that the game doesn't answer.

SweetChiel211 days ago (3 edits) (+3)

Oh lol, it's ok. There's a ton to learn if you really want to know more about Bali/Manggarai X'D even I don't know much about them, I just basically pick up a culture that I like & try to introduce it to you/to the world. I try not to touch anything too religious though & keep it fun most of the time. I like positive vibes, however, I also sometimes make things more intense/dramatic than normal, like the Caci Dance.

There's no correct/wrong answer in my fantasy world setting though. Just keep it respectful, especially when it involves a religion or taboo things (like Sati Ceremony, you can be dramatic about it, just don't insult it) & you can go as wild as you want! All I want is for you to have fun & enjoy the process. I appreciate your effort ^.^)/

Raven211 days ago(-2)

Perhaps I'll add it to my list. lol
I'm more into Summerian and Ancient Egyptian culture atm.
And curious about the Comanche's. Which apparently has a pretty fearsome reputation. ^_^
(The kind that makes your villain looks like a fluffy kitten by comparison. Based on things they actually did do.)

But I understand your artistic vision.

And while I am studying various cultures for one of my stories, I mainly focus on whatever is the closest to an evil overlord in them, because I have an idea for a reincarnation story where Harry Potter is the reincarnation of someone who's first life (that he remembers) was that someone who rose up to rule the city of Ur (or Uruk, haven't decided) with an iron fist... and he gets progressively more wicked over time. With his most recent incarnation before Harry Potter being the infamous Nightstalker. ^_^
(Which fits his satanic leanings. Although the entity he worships is much older than any biblical Satan of course.
It's time-taking research.)

I think that if I get around to write a fanfic of your story, it'll be the nicest version of Harry Potter in ANY of my works. lol
(Partly because he's raised by a villain in all but one of my other works, and in that work he's dating Jeff the Killer. lol)

And I like staying as true to the original works as possible, changing only minor details and using Chaos Theory to calculate (or estimate) the effect of those minor changes.

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