Selling a mod directly is different from selling a membership to a service that happens to come with Access to their betas The patron issue has been brought up in the past and has been confirmed by officials that it does not breach the current TOS multiple times (No i do not agree with this) Again You are Selling the mod not a Service big difference in giants eyes sadly. Also the Westcliffe map you are talking about was not in beta and Still a Private WIP (Thanks for bring that to my attention) I was following what a month ago? I dont understand why you are trying to justify breaking the agreement... using others as examples of why you should be able too?...I mean you went as far as to post a picture of the agreement you breached Yet you continue to try and justify your wrong doing. I apricate the low price and im not trying to be some prude but rules are there for a reason and as a member of the community i would like to keep our community free as its always been... Like i said i simply recommend doing patron thing as it seems the safest way to profit off of your hard work currently
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thank you for the advise I never knew that patreon was okayed by giants. I’m only trying to make points on why I does not make sense for one person to “sell services” such as a discord but truly sell mods. I understand that I broke the rules. I just was not understand how they can let some people do one thing but not let anyone else do the same. I my opinion if there allowing patreon as a service sale with mod access that needs to be stated in there rules that it’s ok to sell other services (if that what you want to call it) with the mods. I only started doing this because one the rules are almost never followed for this yes I should have not I understand that. (Again not trying justifying it). But those rules have never changed and this has happened for many years now all of the sudden people continue doing it and they want to act in only certain manners or apon certain actions. This is where I would love to talk to giants and say this is unjust. Also if you would happen to have proof of the patreon thing being okayed that would be great.
Did some digging and reading in the official fs subred This is what i have found
""Using Patreon is not against our Terms of Service.
Preventing access to mods for our game via a paywall, directly of indirectly, is against the Terms of Service.
If a modder has a Patreon account but all the mods are freely available for anyone regardless? Great, sweet. Awesome. I personally McFricken endorse it. Modders already get a reward per download from us but we are totally not against them making some extra via Patreon, Ko-Fi or whathaveyou.
The problem we have is, if people hide a mod behind a paywall. Be it the finished mod, beta access, early access etc. We do not want that and stuff like that should be reported to "abuse ät giants-software.com"
Refusing to follow our ToS can and will lead to an exclusion from the official ModHub And Giants Products. And yes, we have done so already in the past with some modders who did not comply with our wishes. ""
So Sadly patron is still goes against their TOS :? ^ as stated they do not mind if you accept donations but placing mods/content behind a paywall still goes against the TOS and they have taken action against those who do not wish to follow their terms in the past... Hopefully this helps and i wish you the best!
Seems to be a common occurrence with bigger brands/companies these days smh... I noticed that the Giants team seem to back pedal and outright avoid the question anytime the the problem is brought up in Q&A's n Such (They obviously know its a major problem in the community) Makes me think that the issue will never truly be resolved properly... Also people like Custom modding who have actual signed deals with giants being able to put beta's behind a paywall is a huge slap in the face to everyone else who is following the TOS and making no profit off their work... Its unfair and inconsiderate af to the rest of you :/