Post by kiberptah in Generative AI Disclosure tagging

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We have a strong disagreement in our team in regards to the current state of the system.

On the surface, its goal seem to be to filter blatantly AI-generated assets which is reasonable and understandable. But in reality and based on leafo's answers, projects should be marked as AI-generated even if we used something like Chat GPT / Copilot for writing portions of the code. Our game is built by experienced and professional programmer but some scripts (small percent) were generated to save time on a game jam.

With desire to be honest we marked the game as having AI-generated parts in its code, but it leads to our game being in one big pile with more blatantly AI-generated projects. Currently it is not possible to opt-out without "lying" about use of AI in project page settings.

It does not seem fair that games with small part of AI code in technical side are put in one category with less crafted projects. It especially hurts feelings of our artists because the game is hand-drawn and a lot of effort was put into visuals. "AI Generated" tag is too broad.

It seems that games should either be give options to opt-out (which is not possible once tag is selected) or being forced to opt out (after all games are much more complex project that art assets) or categorization should be improved. It seems like "No AI" tag is made so people could filter low quality projects or assets with questionable legal status, not nice games with some chat-gpt-generated generic code under the hood.

I honestly do not see how marking code in games as being partially AI generated helps anyone. I understand that it is more reasonable in regards to assets, especially paid ones though. But my post is about games. Perhaps there should be different tagging for games or it should be disabled for now until better way is figured out?

Please advise. (our game is Headquarters, first game in AI-generated tag currently...)

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Yogurt The Horse20 days ago (3 edits) (+4)

So yeah, I marked some of our games that were developed with a small portion of usage of ChatGPT/Copilot, and now we are the top-1 game on itch with the tag “AI generated.” From a user perspective, this may look like we just generated our game, which is, of course, not true, and a lot of effort was put into it

At the same time, @leafo includes in all his examples that it’s fair to say such projects should be marked as I did, which leads to a situation where the tag, from the user’s point of view, is not entirely misleading, but many would misunderstand what it actually means. So the system, in its current state, seems not to be working properly for user experience as it puts games where 1% of the content is made with assistance of AI and games where 90% of the value was made with not-so-good-looking AI into the same bucket

I wish we could either remove that tag entirely for our games, as it unfairly puts us into the odd company of fully AI-generated content, or have a green light to put “No,” as the portion of AI-generated content is as small as if we simply copied it from Google (which I believe also uses AI-generated content somewhere inside). Therefore, the first option is not available in the interface, and the second is basically a road to de-listing our game as it looks like we are breaking the rules, which I also cannot do

Moreover, people who see the “AI generated” tag probably won’t look at what exactly was generated (actually, itch does not provide a very easy way to do so as the only possible way, as I see it, is to open each tag separately and check whether the game is listed in them). So, from the average user’s perspective, people may think that we generated game art (which is mostly what people think about generation in game dev), which reasonably upsets our artist, yet I upset him even more with my scareness of getting delisted

P.S. If possible, I ask the itch.io administration to remove that tag from our games, as it was not mandatory, but now we cannot do it ourselves, if it is, of course, possible

P.P.S. Want to make it clear - we as a team do not intend to hide anything, we just don’t want to be judged as people who generate our games heavily. If there was tag “ai-assisted” that would be much more appreciated

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