Thank you for this recap. So Cerberus X is the remaining pice, thanks for pointing me in that direction. I was allways wondering where all the community has gone. Even the once very active german forum blitz-forum seem to be not very active now and i was allways wondering why there is no Monkey related content. A bit sad ... Basically i learned coding with Blitz3D back then - bought the Language and the only german book there was :D