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Hey! By any chance, At the 'crimson rouge's side exit.'  did you go right and pick up the pin? If you did, I think that was the issue, you have to go left and eavesdrop the convo! It should work now. If thats not the issue, let me know and I'll keep searching!

Mirai gives you a potion! Haven't had any flavour text on it yet but I'm guessing it's useful in future

HEY I did some experimenting and found something. Try this;
-"Actually, yeah, there's alot wrong" 
-"A wine bottle,"
-"Because I can get you something you want in exchange."
-"Caine Atheron is missing,"
-Do you want him to be?
-Because no one else will 
-i thought you didnt want him to be found

Im not sure too much on the situation but the last update was 72 days ago so I think they'll  be back?