I don't really like tea from overconsuming it back when I was a student and yet I was tempted to pick "I trust your tastes" just for Simon's laugh alone, let me tell you. 🥰 The VA did an amazing job!
Btw! I've added a few elements off the top of my head to the wiki but I don't know to make good paragraphs like you guys so feel free to structure what I wrote as you want.
I've made a female character last night out of curiosity and gosh darn it, if being misgendered didnt give me intense dysphoria, I'd have Simon call me Madam all day long. 😔💘
Ngl, I thought the blouse he was putting on in the beginning was going to be his outfit for the rest of the chapter... Before realizing that it's just his undershirt. 🤣
I like how Simon smuggled himself Cleopatra-style into the mansion just to get an audience with Isaac. It made me like him even more—and I didn’t even know that was even possible. 🤣🖤 (unless I misunderstood and Nathaniel actually dragged him there by force)
I also wonder which historical period the game draws inspiration from. Chromosomes were discovered around the 1880s, and DNA testing nearly a century later, yet the medical practices in Allele feel far too archaic and outdated to be rooted in modern medicine. 🤔
For instance, I can’t help but wonder why the Institute never considered hybridization to replicate the gene—or maybe they did, and I just missed that part of the story?
I just sincerely hope Simon never ever asks me to, uh… participate in that kind of thing for his experiments. 🤢🤣😭
Well that's a relief? 😂 Although I did tell him precisely for that reason. I didnt trust Isaac to keep his mouth shut about it at all so might as well tell him myself lol 😂
Sorry for the spam but the update is so good and I'm just sending my thoughts as they come. I hope you don't mind! 😭
But I wonder how significant the choice to reveal—or withhold—the fact that we’re Subject 001 from Simon will be later in the story.
I did tell him because I'm playing as myself after all, and, despite that first unpleasant impression we had of him, the political stakes are so high that withholding any information from this point onward might cause more harm than good (imo) but I'm tempted to start a whole new playthrough where I lie through my teeth and stick to it till the very end to see what happens (something I rarely do in games in general!)
Honestly I really don't know but we'll learn more about MC's nature in the upcoming chapters anyway. 👀🍿
Also I feel like Simon's route will delve into subjects like humanity, sentience, ethical/unethical medicine and such. While Isaac's will be about love after grief, solitude and such.
Hmmm, good point. I don't recall seeing our pronouns used in Simon's route either, and Anthony constantly refers to us in an objectifying way ("something", "a treasure", "some spoils"...etc) Probably as a way to make the whole interaction unsettling and to emphasize that MC is barely considered a human being in Simon's route. 🤔
LMAO can't relate, I also picked a guy but that's because there's no they/them pronouns. But I see what you mean because most of the girls I hang out with are the same way. 😂
I could care less about Nathaniel tbh. I put him in the same bag as his master. Hence why I fled the castle as soon as I got the option. xD
"Also, can you give some examples of Issac mistreating the MC besides the dinner? It’s not that I don’t believe you, but I literally never triggered him, so when you mention his mistreatment, I have no idea what you’re talking about and I can’t argue against something if I don’t know what happened😭😭😭"
> Of course! But first you need to know that when I say "mistreats", I don't mean it as "physically hitting MC" but in the broader sense of the word: "to treat (a person or animal) badly, cruelly, or unfairly."
As I said before, he's holding MC captive (a golden cage is still a cage even if you're allowed to roam in it), he touches them without prior consent in the dungeon, takes off his mood swings on MC, and straight up assumes that you're the Hunter's accomplice (you need to pass a skill check to even get the chance to EXPLAIN yourself which is WILD to me since the guy is supposed to protect your ashes/you but oh well...)
During the dinner, if you bring up your good memories of the farm he even mentions wanting to cut you open to crawl inside of you and honestly that was a huge dealbreaker for me, to the point where I only did his route for the sake of completing the existing chapters of everyone and nothing more. ^^'
But it's great that you still like the character despite all his flaws, it proves that the game is really well written. 🖤
I do know that all LIs are toxic to some extent with MC since they are monsters after all.
HOWEVER Simon seems much less toxic to me than Isaac. Because if you exclude the experiment mini-event, of course, we do have some free will and freedom of choice in his route, compared to Isaac where you're held captive in the castle against your wishes and treated badly every time you express your wish to leave or to be treated like a human being. Simon is also much more nicer to MC and not prone to unpredictable mood swings.
I do agree that drugging and experimenting on MC without prior consent makes him a dangerous and untrustworthy person and I don't condone what he did at all, just to be clear. I even picked all the power oriented choices because the whole ordeal made me feel uneasy and upset. However I do understand his motivations for treating MC like so, unlike Isaac who's just...toxic for the sake of it, without a real purpose for it. (Also, experimenting on carriers would be pointless since they do not carry the Resilere Allele, the gene the Institute's been trying to replicate for centuries.)
Hence why I was surprised to see Simon ranked last in your post. I wasnt trying to convince you nor implying that you were wrong since this is not "you're right/wrong" situation. I don't dislike Isaac either, let's just say that I'm not as emotionally invested in his route as I am with Simon.
I'm also a fan of body horror and a science nerd who works in the medical field so picking Simon over Isaac is a given. xD
Simon experiments on you because he has no other options to advance treatment, meanwhile Isaac abuses you (and cannibalizes you when you fail the dinner) just because he can. 😭
It took me an insane amount of self control to refrain from screaming and giggling and kicking my feet when I got this dialogue at work, let me tell you. 🤣
Omg, I did as you said and I was able to unlock a second empathy skill! I thought all unlockable skills were capped at 5 so I never bothered maxing one in particular. I can't wait to try the other options!
When exploring the castle go to the gardens and make sure you check the vines, MC will note that they're sturdy enough to support their weight.
The castle is going to be under attack shortly after you're done exploring and Nate will lock you up in your wardrobe ordering you to stay put. Do not listen to him and pick up the escape option when it shows up. You should meet Anthony in the gardens.
Hello and happy new year ! I've got a question regarding skill checks (nesting it because of potential spoilers) . . . . . . . . . . . . How many skill checks do I need to fullfill in order to survive Nathaniel's enconter in the forest? I've had a power check + a logic check and even so, he still cripples my legs and brings me back to the castle.
Is he struggling with OCD by any chance? Because that's what I gathered from Chapter 4. And I must admit, I was crushed when he betrayed me. 💔 He's gonna need more than tea and a gorgeous CG to make up for it lol
I just noticed that Noctisse's name is spelled, well, Noctisse. Is it intentional or for aesthetical purposes only? Since "tisser" means "to weave" in french. 👀
