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There are only two things:

the first one is Bruce and anything else is an obstacle on your way to obtain Bruce =^w^=

sorry Red, it is how it is

dude same, imagine a CG in round 8 with Bruce doing CPR on Zan <3

Massive spoilers alert

starts babbling about being forced to stray from straight platonic route to romantic one

HOWEVER! guys, what if there actually will be a difference between routes? What if Red will fcking DIE or go comatose/vegetable if we reject him? 

that's like the only think I came up with that would explain this weird turn in MC's mental 

I read this vn since round 2 came out and I really like this project. Our mixed feelings come from objectively speaking "bad writing" (I hate this term, I don't agree with its usage in this case, but I couldn't find more fitting word to describe it). MC being forced to love a character is good, it is called a route after all, but if we can choose to specifically NOT romance someone and then out of the blue our protag just develops feelings... it's just not cool man... 

Bruces stan forever and ever :')

spoiler? 

Pls, can someone give Marruk a big warm hug? He hurts so much, I don't care about Tucker, he acts like a baby (I ain't starting a war here, just stating an observation and I know that he is partially justified), but poor poor Marruk must be hurting so so much worse ;-; 

just a quick question, what does it mean that it is the end of the first book? Is Lyre ending and there will be someday Lyre 2 or Lyre's sequel?

This game would be absolutely amazing even if there wasn't any romance involved
though it is too early to say who it might be, the time will show. We have got to be patient ;)

On dc there was posted info that the update (for patreon) will be within this week ^^

However for public it should be in month

I think that was the whole point of Sam's character:

Sam tells himself that Chase is generic (like NPC), also he is not meant to be replaced with us (I hope you know what I mean, there is term for that: something like projecting yourself on a game/movie character and I meant that very thing. We are meant to project to some extent on Chase, however in Samuel's case we are only following his story as observer)

Chase is cool, but Sam is just different league. Just personal rating, but to my mind Sam is the best written protagonist in any vn ;)

Well, I might be wrong but from what I see I probably am right.

spoilers:

The relationship that Sam has with the cast is not on romantic level, we don't choose our route partner like in ANY other VNs: I like him so I will jerk off thinking about him / I like him so I will pair up with him doing activities etc.

Look at how Sam is choosing his "route partner":

Cliff- I need easy money bc I have none

Murdoch- I lost a lot of money so I need A LOT OF money and I am willing to do anything to get this, even gamble 

Nik- I need money... but he is my dear friend and I want to see him (look at his emotions, he knows that he is paying the least but he still is choosing him. That s true that at the very beginning he says that he doesn't love him at all, but at this point we know better :) )

Will- I can't live with this burden, I want justice... even if this means my death (he doesn't choose coyote because he likes him, he chooses him as a source of justice meant to punish him) 

That being said, Samuel loves / likes only two characters (at the beginning of the story): Nik and Will.

The former also loves him thus the only true kiss scene. However even though Will loves Sam he has too many problems with himself to show his true side (he tries and he actually did, but you've read this so I don't need to summarize those scenes)

We know that Cliff likes Samuel with reciprocity, but their relationship is too fresh to really name it "love". They know each other for too short period of time or the circumstances were unfavorable to expand their feeling beside smuts, idk rly :)

Oh... My God.

I can't believe we finally got to see a wholesome EchoProjects VN!!!! It's gorgeous: the humor and jokes that are not cringy considering overall theme, the surprising depth of characters, the drama that is so well fit in and is not forced. I ain't saying that I was sceptic towards GH, because you guys NEVER disappoint, frankly, I couldn't believe that you could get this much out of "modern not-so-superheroes in leotard" and what can I say? It was a bull's eye!

When I heard for the first time about this project many months ago I though that it was supposed to be a silly VN to "recharge the batteries", just like Adastra was supposed to be (or from what I heard). I'm so glad that yet again I was this much mistaken :)

Can't wait for the next updates guys! 

wait a minute, haven't creators themself said that Echo and TSR are multiverse and every route indeed happened?

That is why there is no "true ending", because every single one and none at the same time are those true endings?

Edit: so, I looked a little in discord q & a and actually I had asked this very question about Echo's multiverse. George said that every ending is canon and happens ;)

We got to finish second day of Bjorn's route 

There is still a lot of great time spend together to come ^^

Oh... oh boy... he is gonna do Flynn's route tomorrow/ today...

Guys, do we tell him? 

just kidding, I really hope you will give it a try, EchoProject's novels are something else, although maybe better idea would be starting witch Echo itself for many, MANY reasons ;)

Huh, yes it is :)

It's amazing to see the very person who created music used in a game so randomly. I didn't even know that your song has vocals. 

I would tell you to play this and see yourself the usage of your track, but... maybe not ^^

I'm... almost sure that there was not such a scene :/

spoiler

You had in mind a Jack? Jack from TSR?

Actually, it is quite peculiar because build 20 (Murdoch) was released on patreon yesterday ^^ 

again? To be honest (my love to EchoProject VNs aside) there is no other furry VN that is at least slightly as good as Echo if we are talking about storytelling, characters building and touching other emotions than smut horniness. Well, there IS actually, they are called The Smoke Room and Arches, but oh irony they are both by EchoProject :)

Although, if there are VNs as good as this I will gladly read them and if you could tell me their names I would be obliged :3

(the only vn that was close to beat Echo was "the house in fata morgana", but a furry aspect aside, I still find Echo better) (I read or watched exactly 31 vn so far, I'm making a list where I write down all read so I remember what I played

yea, in my opinion especially the new socketmonster one. I always was slightly disappointed how socketmonster looked in Flynn and Leo's route(the mountain CG with monster on the peak). However now... it is legitimately terrifying. I haven't seen such a creature in horror movies, let alone VN (ofc there are exceptions but you'v got my point) 

He had in mind that it would be hard to accidentally show Leo as bad husbando material, but not only show him as bad one, also explain why, because this is the most important.

This way EchoProject made character that can't be seen as a villain and instead is seen as a person with flaws like we all are 

Everyone in this VN are shown this way, everyone has two sides: the good one and the bad one (yes TJ, you too)

I have good news for you, it is confirmed that TSR will have good endings, although what does it mean in this case is unknown. I will probably cry anyway ;)

Arches Build 5 is available since today on patreon, it will be probably in public in 30 days or less (minimum 14 days)

This is my story about this game, or more accurate about my life after playing this VN. To be honest I don't care if you believe me nor if you don't. I am aware it might not be the best place to send such thing, but I'm going to do it anyway. Also I wanted to post it on Echo anniversary, but I want to give enough time for mods or whatever to delete it if it is too disturbing and out of place before the big day.

It all happened almost one year ago. I saw this title and though „hmm, furry horror VN, I haven't seen such thing before. Oh, there is some CW that warns me that this is game that is emotionally intense. Well, it ain't stopping me though.”

You have to know, that my mental health wasn't... well, good. I had no real friends nor online for 4 years at that time and I abandoned my last one nearly one year before playing this game. But about him later. The point is... I was 19 years old wreck.

Playing this game wasn't just hard, it was absolutely heartbreaking. It sounds pathetic, but those stories somehow oneped my eyes to things I was blind for my entire life.

I had a friend, let's call him Rob for keeping this somehow anonymous. We knew each other since we were 7 (7-18, it's 12 years), we weren't best friends, but we were good friends. Except we wasn't... not really...

I was constantly making his life miserable through our childhood years (I would even go so far to say that I wronged him) and he was making me miserable during my teen years. We didn't see our problems and when we did we pretended it was all fine and that there was nothing wrong after ours arguments. I was the first one that just... broke after one of those, I was sick of his behaviour and simply ghosted him. He tried talking to me again, like he always tried, Rob was always the one who tried to make amends after argument, but this time I didn't talk back. It was so painfull at that time, I knew exactly what I was doing – I was breaking friendship with the last person I was talking to yet. And what is even more sad, I did that in the worse possible way, he tried talking to me for months... but I was adamant.

After playing Echo, I was thinking about him again and about what I have done, how it could affect him, how HE could react to my absence.

I knew for a fact that he had absolutely no one either and I was the only friend of his. I saw how devastating it was for him just as it was for me. I saw how shitty friend I was not only through those brat years, but through my whole life, how badly I didn't give a shit about him, how I didn't care about anything he was talking to me. Of course, he was as bad as I was, but here is the problem: I was shitty friend. He saw that. He stoped giving shit either cause „why bother?”. I felt worse and I was behaving even worse. He saw I'm even worse than before so he didn't care even more. It was vicious circle that none of us saw at the moment. Our problems could be easly resolved if we just TALKED, but we never did. Yeah, we could split earlier either, but it would be healthier and farier to both of us.

So. After I played whole VN I decided that I will tell Rob everything what was bothering me through those years, everything what I thought of him and of me and everything what I discovered after reading this VN. This letter was so big that I was writing it a couple of days...

… and when the time came I send it to him.

He was silent for a whole month, but finally send me back his answer. It was one sentence.

He thanked me and bid me farewell.

He never showed me any appreciation. Never ever. Even though it was too late to save this friendship, I was happy. I was happy, because I made it right, for both of us. I'm glad I did that. I'm glad that this one time I could bring him smile, even the bittersweet one and he could bring me the same smile either.

But it's not the end of the story! 2 months after that I decied to send another similar letter to my best friend whom I ditched literally the same way and because of the same reasons like Rob. But... she was always good to me, she was the best person I have ever met (before u all get this wrong, life is fcking ironic, I'm gay and she is lesbian xD). We hadn't talk to each other for 4 years. Yes. 4 years. I didn't want to befriend her again. I wanted to make things right just like with Rob. But she insisted to meet again and this time she didn't take no for an answer. So I said yes and we met...

… it wasn't easy, I told her it won't be like ol' good times, but we are making progress and it is all looking pretty good so far.

It's not easy to crawl back from the pit I was in for such a long time. It's a proces, very long one. I won't say that I'm now a different person, it would be a lie. However I am better that before. I'm better to myself, I'm better to those around me, I'm improving. I know I shouldn't have play this game. To be honset it was 50/50 in my case. I would go either the path I have gone or I would break (I wasn't suicidal though). I wanted to write this letter many months ago, but I had to wait and see for myself that I indeed changed and that it wasn't just spur of a moment after experiencing the best piece of media I have ever seen. I'm Echo's patreon just for this one reason, I want to show anyhow my appreciation because I am grateful this much for the life I got back (at least partially)

I want to say one thing to the creators and it's not how good this VN is, because they know it already and I just said that.

I want to say that you saved someone. Literally. You were the reason I ended up here where I am. You are the reason I am smiling more. You are the reason my former friend found closure and my second friend got her friend back. I'm wholeheartedly thankful. Thank you.

oh yeah! I am always a little disappointed when I don't see those "speaker portraits" (I didn't even know it was called like that), it helps so much to immerse with MC's (most often mc) emotions and reactions :)

well, my first playthrough was killing myself with bomb so... you could have gone worse :')

well, I haven't play so much yet to get to those scenes so ...

actually nothing, bc I have absolutely no idea who are those characters XD (just started playing)

Downer warning!

I'm almost sure that updates on Interea will be the same as for Arches: build per 2 months. Time will show, nevertheless I will always take quality over quantity :)

Short answer: Echo -> TSR -> Arches

BUT

To my mind it is good idea to start with Arches, regardless of Arches being the shortest game so far.  (I want everyone to know that I'm not complaining, this VN is in my opinion tough 10/10 with plot, ost and characters) The problem that I had reading Arches was that I knew the main antagonist, some ghosts/spirits and every location, it might sound funny (for me it was xd) but when I was reading it I was like: oh, Cam and Dev are going to the ****, I wonder when they will ******. -5min later- There you go, knew it :)

For many people it might be good actually: to be so familiar with Echo town that you know in advance a lot of things that might happen to the cast even before they will know it, but I don't like spoilers and Echo VN is spoiling a lot. (I am aware that this familiarity could be deliberately implemented by creators, however not everyone has the same tastes.)

Second is Echo, no comment here <3

Third is TSR bc there is a few characters and events that won't ring you any bells. TSR is great in regard to expanding Echo world, but not necessarily learning about it from there.

Again, this is MY opinion why I would go for Arches at first, but if those aspects don't bother you then stick to my short answer up there :)

No matter the order, I'm telling you you won't regret any second spent in this world and that is something that everyone will tell you.

The physique in Echo v novels (those in town Echo) are different, in TSR people are the most similar to humans: 5 fingers per hand , men genitals. (well, weird part is that the legs and paws in TSR are actually animalistic, but that s not the point here, you know what I'm saying)

on the other hand in Echo (benefits) we can clearly see the whole animalistic physique: paws instead of hands, paws instead of foots and the most important full animalistic genitalia. I know that from CGs its hard to tell that their whole body resembles more animal than human, but Chase spent some time during inner monologues when he was describing his friends physique and again, dongs are different in either games kek

Finally Arches and again full animalistic physique, however characters have 4 fingers like in cartoons.

To summarize I wouldn't mind the differences in how people body are build in Echo bc it just depends of design creators choose.

Edit: I made extra effort and found Duke spirits in echo and arches (he is the only character that is in both games so far) and he has 5 fingers in Echo and 4 in Arches what only confirms what I wrote :)

Yo, English is not my first language either so if I am mistaken pls someone correct me.

Past perfect is used when you are talking about thing that lasted (not only happened) in the past and ended in the past. Just like dont uwu me wrote narrator was referring to the very specific event in the past that took place and now it no longer last. Example:

"The smile of relief on Cameron's face seems to break the dam of emotion in Dev's chest. That wild look he had earlier... 

this is past simple and the wild look in this one is just a short glare, however Cam was making this face for a long time. There is more to Past Perfect but i am not enough informed to answer. Next one:

... the one that had looked at him as if he were a stranger is gone. "

in this one had is important because if you removed this word you would get this sentence: the one that looked at him as if he were a stranger is gone. Now we got a sentence where someone someone is looking at Cam and we know it is not a point.

I hope it is helpful and I haven't made fool of myself :)

You should acknowledge the fact, that Echo is not a dating sim, even though Chase is gay it doesn't define anything. We are here for the plot, not horny furry husbandos (well, most of us, Leo fanclub, lets connect ourselves!)

btw spoiler for others 

I think Carl is not gay, he is the most probably straight or eventually BI. Sex with Flynn and make out with Chase is only his experimenting / seeking his sexuality / pure curiosity, idk tbh ;)

Well, I wouldn't call it "fun", it's more like emotionally wrecking rollercoaster, but hey! If you like to cry quietly in the corner of your room after playing game, then you will be on cloud nine :)

I wont lie, I downloaded this VN 2 weeks ago and was like: "meh, I played all good furry vn and now i m bored... maybe I will download smth random and try to enjoy?" I took list of 10 vn and LITERALLY CHOOSE RANDOM ONE!!!!! 

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Well, now I'm gonna say that I won't leave you guys to the very end and I mean it. Great. Work. Guys!!!

Well, if you'r talking about any updates then there was TSR update 2 days ago (for patreon). Alas, Arches had not got yet. If i'm not mistaken creators were moving out and that's why there is a lot of delays.

18 + doesnt mean that game has nsfw content

for example Echo is totally 18 + game and has sex scenes , however it is not nsfw vn because there is zero naked spirit

heart <3

I had been looking but didn't find anything :/

The same goes for Echo Project fc page, I couldn't find it either

Spoiler alert!

This ghost is (to my mind) the missing  Belithe's friend. Poor little girl :(