what's up with the vn? last update was last year, i wonder if the creator forgot to post the updates here
edit: nvm, went on their patreon and seem like they're working on the next update. take your time devs
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i was writing a reply but the power went out. it was a shame cause i wrote a lot. i'll just boil down what i was gonna say and some more.
i went and replayed his route (granted, i skipped scenes that didn't involve william poking his brain) and i agree with you that most people on twitter forgot some of the context prior the stag part and sk did i. william did agree verbally/non verbally but what led me to have those opinions was this line"i mean to stand ground, but i'm dizzy" after kane put him os his knees and sam a bit later "be patient with him, he's had more than a shot". completely forgot that liquid courage is def something. i said i agree with some thing they said, i still do but nah, they tripping on this scene. i gotta say tho: william won't magically just overcome his conflicts and internalized homophobia with this scene alone (this month i think we'll have the next update, we'll see how it will play out)
also replaying his route, i can't say exactly why but i feel murdoch and william are two sides of the same coin. i already noticed playing murd's route and i thought it again replaying will's. probably because they're both conflicted but i won't elaborate and just let this marinate. maybe when both their routes end.
also the pass out thing: i said it was in the middle of the scene, i meant the end before the "to be continued", that was miscommunication on my part ("i remember just one thing before darkness overtakes me: sam wiping the filth out of me"). but re-reading it, yeah reached back there, not even gonna lie. it's open ended, so again, only next update we'll know how it turned out.
side thing: i remembered i had made a post here on itch months ago on how sudden the stag scene felt, and even on this thread original post. it flew over my head when i posted it, but it's good to know there will be changes in the future
ok, i've played through most routes (except cliff's, halfway through it) and i want to review this vn. i've seen the drama on twitter over it, and i agree partly with some of the criticism, though i don't agree how some people go about criticizing the game. when i mean criticism, i mean people talking about the narrative's inconsistencies.
spoilers ahead btw. also everything i write below is subject to change, since the vn is not complete yet and i myself change my opinions on things from time to time. who knows, maybe when the game launches i'll write another one.
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the thing i saw most on twitter when people were criticizing the game was how many NSFW scenes there were. people said it was too much and yadda yadda, and i half agree with it and half disagree. the protag is a literal whore. it's kinda expexted for there to be a lot of sugestive scenes ain't it? and second, you can have a good history VN with a lot of sugestive stuff in it (burrows for example). though i do think some of them feel out of left field, like the one with hendricks on cliffs route, the one with todd on the shed and kane's. and i have something to say about kane's specifically.
the other thing people said about the game was the non-consentual act on kane's scene. that's undeniable, it's implied (at least how i see it) that william passed out in the middle of it. even before he passed out, he didn't really consent to do half the things kane told him to do. i feel this can't just be ignored on the upcoming william update. william's route has to do something further and not just go "well that just happened ig" and just keep moving. i feel this has to be addresed in some way with the seriousness the topic of r4pe and SA deserves next william update, or further up.
aside from this, i like where the history is going on the routes. i like how diferent they all are to each other and my favorite would probavly be between william and nik's. i hope we see more of how this game ties in with echo in the next update. since echo had 63 updates, and tsr is on the 33rd, i'm guessing we're close to seeing the ending of the histories.
holy shit just played through it, such a rollercoaster of emotions. great vn overall, art, writing and etc., my only real criticism being the lack of player input/choices, but i'm fine with that. i just wonder how it would be if maybe in some parts you had to make a choice, and depending on it, something really bad happens, kinda like the train part in echo, specifically leo's route. but again, i don't mind the lack of player input and really enjoyed this vn, keep it up guys