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No it is NOT, Carol begins calling you her BF, without you even discussing it, and after a certain point with NO WARNING you declare you LOVE Roxy, without the option to say otherwise, at the cost of fun times with someone hotter, her sister.  Roxy starts talking about wanting to meet your family, and Rachel TAKES YOU to meet hers. 

That is not Harem. 

Harem is crazy, absurd, convoluted story reasons as to when you can bang both Nat and Roxy, at the same time... and even as a THREESOME.. yeah the best ones cross that line, to which I say HELL YEAH. 

Harem is not Carol just assuming you are BF/GF now... but asking can she maybe, possibly, if it is OK, maybe.. see.. if we would mind if she thought of me as such, maybe.... and begging, if asked to...  whilst we are given the option of agreeing, declining, or compromising by offering another nature to our relationship ranging from 'Exploring more than Friends" to 'Sl*t, you're my service animal and nothing more, and be thankful your even that". 

Harem is exploiting the precarious situation with Rebound Rachel, and using the ethical boundaries crossed by her entering in to a sexual relationship with her student, to make her your dirty little secret, who accepts being such, and your having fun with younger college girls. 

Harem is actually being ABLE to chose choice two Natalie gives you if she finds out about you and Roxy if you got the Roxy path, but even more harem is an option which allows you to somehow force Natalie in to being a FWB DESPITE you doonting Roxy too. 

This game is not finished, and might never be, but if it IS, then it will be a Romance game, I guarantee you. All the fun you have NOW with the girls, will come back on you.. and you will at BEST have to choose a Carol/Yuki path, Ashley/Sara path, Rachel path or Roxy path. The writing is on the wall. Once Yuki starts her new social club to circumvent the rules around her message business, she will be in more intimate private contact with Sara and Ashley than she already is... and you and HER, or you and Carol WILL come out.... likewise, with Sara getting closer and closer to Rachel, they will learn about each other. I am sure there will be story beat that essentially means Roxy will find out about ALL of them too. 

Then you will HAVE TO CHOSE. 


That aint Harem. 

Supplemental: Replayed the game ignoring Sara, Carol, Yuki and Ashley, as well as Roxy and Rachael. 

I HAD NO LUST score when I was in Hospital and could have banged the nurse.. and no lust score when I was with Natalie for the one on one naked Yoga, and missed out a scene. 

I also never got to meet Nikki, who was just 'Girl' the rest of the game. 

I got some extra scenes with Kim, because I investigated the Porn Studio, but not much. 

That path gave me Lexi... but not much. 

I ONLY GOT ONE EXTRA SCENE with Natalie after all that, and an extra BJ. I did not even get to slip her it again. I mean, where's her An*l Full Nelson moment, her sister has like four? But nope, she takes a ride on the bench press... all the while I am anticipating the Mallory Natalie Me threesome will make up for it... and ... NO... nothing. Nada. Zip. 

Oh, did I mention that then HARD LOCKED ME OUT OF ALL THE OTHER GIRLS? I could not reply to their texts, because I missed the window I guess. 

The game ended with me eating a burrito with Lexi on a park bench, not even getting anything more spicy. 

This game feels like it is forcing one of two options: 

A) You get a lot of action... but are forced in Romances with the girls. 

B) Stick to the NON Romance girls... and get F all from them, for your efforts. 

I know there is a choice to JUST be Friends with Sara... but there was NO choices like that for ANY other girls in my first playthrough. And no FWB choices either. 

What is the point?  

It feels wrong, like you can have all the s*x you want.. and this game will be HEAVY on it... but ONLY if you get in to deep relationships.... OR if you chose another option, which is given... get a shorter game, with WAY LESS of the A part of an AVN... almost as if the dev PUSHING you down one path. 

I want to love this game... the story is pretty good... the characters have a bit of depth, the models are hot, and the scenes are FANTASTIC compared to MOST games of this Genre.....   

...but being punished for just wanting to build a Harem, and being coerced towards some stupid Romance Sim BS if I want the depth the game has to offer, really makes that impossible. 

This game SHOULD have the SAME amount of content, both story and s*x scenes.... for the NON ROMANCE girls and pathway, as the Romance. I played for like 10 hours+ my first playthrough trying to be a player, romancing the main dorm dolls plus Rachel and Roxy.. and that would have been MORE had I gone the Porn Studio path first time around....  but this time, playing with the aim of just having my Natalie (and hopefully Mallory), Kim and Lexi harem,... it took me just TWO hours. Ok, I tuned down Sasha, because I until *I* can Dom HER, I am done with that tart...but even adding THOSE in, what, three hours? 

The game is about a quarter as long as it is if you play the other way, and get involved with the women who lock you in to Love. That tells me that the game was NEVER MEANT to be played that way. As I say to all Devs when this is the case, as this is NOT the first AVN I have come across like this... WHY BOTHER THEN? 

Dont offer a casual f*ck buddy route, and dangle Harem potential... just say this is a ROMANCE novel, with some Lewdness, and be done. \

Changed my rating to 1/5

No you. 

Kinda agree about Yumi... actually Laura looks a bit that way too. 

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How do you know if I can? Perhaps I cannot? 

If this is all you are capable of contributing to the discussion, I would say you need to go anywhere there is people, and meet some, and get some social skills, in the hopes of improving your capacity for communication abilities. Which at the moment, from the evidence, are sorely, sorely, lacking. 

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Just literally stopped playing because there is NO Harem route. 

At least not MY Harem choice route. 

Natalie and Mallory are the hottest options in the game IMHO. But if you Roxy?? Also, my main man PC just declared he LOVED ROXY? 

No. I love An*l Full Nelson antics with her, and dominating her. But love her? She was a sl*t from day 0. NO, she is side piece, pet service animal material AT MOST nothing more. 

This game REALLY needs to MAKE IT CLEAR when you are on a path locking things out. 

Perhaps there IS a route with Roxy AND Natalie on the rotation... IF I acted even WORSE to Roxy than I already treat her.  I chose NOT to treat her like she was subhuman... but I was still NOT NICE to her... just exploitative and playing on her bad girl with a heart of gold naivety and now I am hard locked out of her MUCH hotter, sexier sister? 

I put a bit in to this game to get to this part.  Now, I feel like there is only two options, restart the effing game, and be a C U NEXT TUESDAY to every girl, not caring if I doont them eventually or not... or just NEVER PLAY AGAIN. 

This game, even being older in the genre, was going to.. GOING TO, get like a solid 8/10 from me, just because of the sheer amount of the A part of AVN, a LOT of adult content, and well done scenes. 

But my PC being HARD LOCKED in the LOVE with some TART that is only good for an*l domination? At the expense of another MUCH sexier girl? 

I will give this one 2/10, for the epic Adult heaviness... but I think the story needs serious work, and there needs be clear warning flags at certain points in the story. 

I have not been this disappointed in an AVN since I played Being a DIK (that's right, Harem forever baby, F off ). That is saying something, because I HATED that game, HATE the creators for their childish response to my criticism. Never just force the MC in to LOVING someone in a game like this. At least give them the option to choose, even if a negative loses that girls pathway. 

That is the WORST part...   Natalie gives you a choice when you find out about Roxy spilling (yet another reason Roxy is TRASH),  and the SECOND sounds like it might just be a way to be rid of Roxy (with more consideration that she deserves)... AND get back on path with Nat, and thus Mallory too.... and there is NO CHOICE. NONE. The MC CHOOSES AUTOMATICALLY... then says he loves that dumb skank. 

I should rate this ONE out of ten. BUT I do appreciate the awesome way the dev seems to really understand the A part in AVN truly IS the MOST important part. So I will stand by my 2 rating. 

All AVN need HAREM routes for ALL women, even those women are related. It is a R(omance) VN if not, with the A just an extension of that. 

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How do you NOT lock characters out? I recall ONE moment where I had to choose which sister to go somewhere with, after school, and after that, I think I locked one of them out. 

How do you keep them ALL unlocked, or is that no possible? 

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This game is the highest rated Adult game on Itch for a reason, BUT if you are looking for some good games close to this, I would say both Ripples, and Oppai Odyssey come close. Also, as far as I am concerned, 10/10 games, though like this, not completed. 

Another great game, sadly not complete either, and I have not heard much lately, is Pale Carnations.  I would give that 9.5/10

If you want something MUCH longer on the story, with much more work needed for the A bit of AVN, but which is rather rewarding, and I found slowly draws you in and immerses you, there is another game I give 10/10, that is A House In The Rift, though this too, is incomplete. 

If you want some games which are promising, and use the same engine as this, with just as lush graphics, but are willing to try them knowing they are only in relatively early release, but are candidates to become 10/10 games, let me recommend Realm Invader (incredibly good so far), MayFly (perhaps the most graphically beautiful game of its kind) and Astreon. 

If you want some interesting sleeper recommendations from left field, I would also suggest Love By The Water, MurMur, and Flowers (possibly the most artistically beautiful AVN I have ever seen). 

Hopefully there is enough there to get you started. 

This game is beautiful, the characters are beautiful. The story is...  a story? But I do not play these games for the story, unless it is a dark dark kinky thing... so that is not a problem. 

The one thing I would say is that this kind of graphic design seems not to lend itself so well to the actual A bit in AVN, at least not the actual scenes. They are nicely done... but they are also rather short, and I assume by necessity somewhat static, and always POV. 

If that could be changed, multi-phase scenes, with multiple angles, including well frame 3rd persons perspective angles... then this game would be among the BEST graphically, ever made. I am not sure that CAN be done... but if it CAN be, then this game, irrespective of the story, the UI, or anything else, will easily be 100 out of 10, just for how beautiful it is. 

I eagerly await to see more anyway, but I hope there IS some way the scenes can be expanded and improved, this game truly deserves that. 

Even a relatively short thing, which seems to almost be a proof of concept as is, I will give this one 8/10, one finished, if long, and if the scenes can be improved, it will definitely be 10/10 all day. 

Is this Harem or Romance? Or Romance with a Harem path? 

Sure, I get it. I just know that there is a lot of actual ethical considerations this would create.. the off ramp being he is also a high schooler, and classmate of the girls...BUT his ALSO being their boss... and then they being vulnerable youth, would, in many jurisdictions, still be something which possibly overrides that.  These are school girls, who even at 18, would likely NOT be classed as independent from their parent(s) or guardian in my jurisdiction, who are also in compromised circumstances, and as I said, would be classed legally as vulnerable youth at risk in my country. 

The expectation of propriety, and morality, in MY culture, would be HE DOES offer them that safe space, and help, but DOES NOT accept Romantic intentions, or sexual engagement, in return. Rather, explicitly avoiding that, at least for more than a month. Once they are out of school, and if they find other work, which is their primary source of income, and move out... THEN proceed with romantic explorations, then move in, take jobs again, and it proceeds along those lines... THAT would be seen as OK.

Offering them shelter, work, support, and safety, but then also spanking them, touching them sexually, taking oral sex from them, and even having intercourse with them, even if mutually consensual would be VERY problematic, and that definitely informs my view of the game. 

As for the sex scenes....   I am a glutton... I want lots, and tbh, expect somewhat more than we have in any game this long. 

Going deep in to the comments on this one, I see there is no replay Gallery? 

Also, how NSFW is this? I honestly could not tell from the screen shots. I know all characters are 26+ and have Mortgages.... but do they make you turn all the lights off, and keep quiet when you doont too, or this their explicitness here?

I am fond of randomly asking if any and all happenings that someone mentions happening just outside my view is Goblins, and wearing a helmet at all times, except when no one who knows me is around because I have to fix my armour.. so I am hella keen to try this.... but if I CANNOT exploit a traumatised blind High Priestess in to an encounter Phillip Mond would be proud of, and Mario Salieri even prouder, well... is there a point? 

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Thumbs up, or thumbs down.. never have gotten this.... is this what they call on twitter/reddit 'ratioed'...??    Like, who gives a flying F what anyone else thinks... and why do people even let it stop them? I am middle aged bloke from the outback in Australia, not your typical gamer in any other way aside from the fact I have been a hardcore gamer over 45 years....    so I do not get how soft people are now. 'Oh, more people do not like what I am saying than do...   Whaaaaaaaa.. booohooo....  I will go cry and stop"... to be frank... that sickens me. 

But I DO appreciate your encouragement however unnecessary Thanks. 

I just speak my mind. Having been a hardcore gamer, from ground level, day zero, I think I am experienced and expert enough for my own thoughts on a game to be of value to at least some. If other do not like it, no one says they must, but also, no one cares. I just want to A: help give constructive feedback to devs.. and B: inform other gamers what they are getting before the get it, even on games that free amateur works like the world of Adult Itch games. 

If all I achieve is giving one dev some food for thought, or getting them to go in a new direction on one thing, or lift their game in one area.. or if I can inform just one person, as to if they want a game or not, or prepare them for what they are getting in to if they do get it... then I am happy with that. I do not care in the slightest what others think. 

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Ughhh. Thick Shorty simulator. 

The story in this one, is actually kind of interesting.  Still as batsh*t craycray as most AVNs, but I was jiving with it. 

But the girls?  Even before we talk about the gameplay, graphics, or style, we need to talk about the girls. 

Any good? 

No. I was suffering through them for the story. 

MOST of them, are plain, or have some weird element, like too round face and eyes too wide apart, or close together, or too high up, or too low....  and even the girls who DO NOT, are ALL thicc shorties. 

There is just, I would say, maybe six girls of worth in this game. 

A reporter who is a sweetheart, helps you out, but you never get to doonty. 

A Heiress daughter you DO get to ... er.. do.. a lot... but with consequences. 

A federal agent who OWES YOU BIG for literally putting you life on the line, but gives you nothing. 

A photographer who is IMHO the HOTTEST girl in the game, you get ONE taste of, then are told NEVER AGAIN. 

A Cafe owner who is Bi, but has forsworn men, and is unattainable. 

A Trophy Wife Gold digger who turns out to be the ultimate villainess, who is crossing all kinds of taboo line with an idiot, but apparently HATES you. 

A PA who is perhaps close to the hottest in the game, just maybe tad below her.... who spends the entire game PREGNANT, and you have to choose if you want to doont her like that, or never. 

In other words.... you are given a bevvy of thicc shorties, with weird looks, to doonty time with.... but are starved of the still slightly thick, but less short, sexy looker, except in one instance. 

If thicc shorties of... unique.. looks are your jam... this game is gonna be great for you.  

If you prefer some variation, and love games which give you the waif waifu, the long lean pole vaulter type machine, the Flo-Jo Oxygen Magazine Cover girl athletic hotty with 'thews' (such a great word) the big bad Amazonia, the the Muscle Barbie Slim BB lady, and the glorious SSS tier of them all the barbie bodies, bubble butted, bigly boobied, botox bee-stung featured Bimbo....  then it is TUMBLE WEED and DUST SWIRLS here. 

Also... there is ONLY ONE BOOB SIZE for ALL girls... if you like Scoreland silicon mountains, or want some repping the itty bitty titty committee... NOPE. 

That alone means, tbh, this is likely the first game of this kind where I actually liked the story enough to care... but will NOT bother see through when future updates come along. At least unless there is some new girls, or the girls that are pretty cute that ARE in the game become accessible... and NOT pregnant. 


Subjective as my tastes are... they do inform me... and I cannot give more than 3/5 for this one... and that is JUST for the STORY. 

I loved it so far, and cannot wait for more. 

A few niggles though. 

Noel and the MC were to feast on Sybil... but was only a little teas taste when it happened at last in the gym. 

Sybil might be an Ingenue, inexperienced, shy... but by her own admission she is craving sex, and we KNOW there is a VERY REAL reason for this... it is not just some weak narrative thing like.. 'her repressed nature'... well there IS that... but there a medical, physiological reason. Yet she does not seek it, and the MC does not offer it, anywhere near as much as I feel that story arc demands. 

Something about the whole Doc Clermont thing just feels alien. Like, it sits outside the rest of the story,... and oopart contrived arc, and worse, it has real consequences. Her leaving felt forced, and the inability to do anything about it really left this player PO'd in the EXTREME. 

I thought Lym was my wingman, wingwoman, partner in crime.. my submissive, innocent, but eager protege, in all things. Lust included. But instead she suddenly became the Jealous type? More, she choses the USF over the ME, the MC? I mean you gotta build tension... but the Lym at the end, compared to the Lym of the start... was nothing like I thought. This means either A: this is a misguided narrative divergence which DOES NOT WORK, or B: it was calculated, and deliberate, and IS what it is meant to be, and Lym WHO she is meant to....in which case I say F her, stupid C U next Tuesday... now I want nothing to do with her, and feel we should be allowed to just straight up kill her. 

The psychological games, between the MC and second phase Lym, are really not good either. I do not know what happens if you choose the dialogue wither her that might be chosen if one had the intent to kick her prissy little ass to the kerb...  but if you answer the dialogue replies in the manner most obvious to keeping her..then you chose a path of lies, exploitation and manipulation encouraged by Nyx. Whatever you want Lym to be, she is a failure, now, because of this. THIS SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. 


Will not rate right now, because it might be too low... I will wait and see what this game is like by the end, and if some things, especially the shit with lym. I think there is hope still.. I hope. 

Yeah critically imperative in AVNs that you SHOW, instead of tell, for the A scenes.... otherwise it is just a VN, really, is it not? That was a really poor outcome, but perhaps they will address that in a new update. It DOES happen right at the end of the game as it stands now. They can go back and rework that seen to show it in full, I am sure. 

I was not sure whom you are replying too NiiChan, the end of your reply initially seemed aimed at the OP, but the end paragraph suggested it was also aimed at me. So I will say this. I did not HATE Sicae... I was, somewhat taken aback by the difference between the comments, and the actual game, for sure... commentors, were waxing about the game in a way which made it seem like unique, revelatory, experience, and some even mentioned how serious and realistic it was... when in fact, it seems they are just players who had never played 90s video games, seen 80s action movies, or 70s and 80s HK ActionCop-Kung-Fu gangster movies. 

I personally did not DISLIKE Sicae...   (though tbh, I like my AVNs WAY heavier on the A bit, and there seemed to be WAY too little in game as long as Sicae is even without being finished, for my liking... ) but more that Sicae was exemplary of how big cool ideas, that collide in an overarching narrative, can at times, be wildly absurdly crazy, sometimes in a fun way no doubt, and come off, and this is not a criticism, as almost kitsch and edgy. This happens because it almost always HAS to, to sew the threads of those cool ideas together. 

It is the same way some AVNs with heavy hardcore s*x that skirts incest boundaries and crosses in to problematic power dynamics, have absurd, long bow drawn, tenuous justifications, contortions or truths, facts and science, and ethical evacuating bleed valve dialogue to justify why the MC is sleeping with their doctor and lawyer... and teacher.... and student... and aunt... and mom... and sisters.... and cousin.. and the local cop.... and their girlfriend... and her aunt... grammy...sisters... mother...doctor...dentist...lawyer. 

You HAVE to find narrative assertions, to MAKE that work. In those kinds of games, there is no game if A: the MCs 'Roomates' (pretty relatives)...  freak out and shut down his advances, his doctor calls the police on him for sexual harassment, and that hot cop arrests and charges him, sans ANY sexy time....before the MC being put in a Fade To Black scene of being beaten by a cellmate in prison for his sex crimes.. B The MC Develops a sudden moral conscience, collapse in to devastating regret induced clinical depression, is enveloped in self harming tendencies, and winds up in an institution. Yet, if one sought to be realistic about it, BOTH of those things would be more likely than out MC having a reverse gangbang with his twin sisters, his mom, his girlfriend, her mom, her grandma, his doctor, his teacher, the headmaster, and hot youngest ever captain of the local Police.... but, that happens... because of the cray cray, absurd, convoluted, tenuous, narrative allowances which are hilarious AF, but messed up beyond measure. THAT is HOW you have a game, when it is that kind of thing. 

The interesting ideas in Sicae, likewise, are not codependent; Ancient Roman cult, Assassins, Organized Crime, a secret Shadow Government organization trying to take over, illegal human experimentation, psy-warfare programmes, all things which in and of themselves CAN be themselves, ALONE, a theme for a story... but sewing them together, in a manner which works for an AVN, is definitely going to lend itself to things getting pretty hectic, unrealistic, tenuously justified, and batty as, to make them work together. 

I was just using this, as an example, for the OP, to try to suggest that perhaps the Dev, you, did NOT deliberately set out to victim blame, exalt coercive manipulation, or imply anything else that they found problematic, rather just as natural extension of trying to create the narrative where two incompatible people....as one assumes they'd be..given this games title.. are drawn in to an intimate sexual dynamic. Add to that, a shift in the cultural paradigm and translation inadequacies, this game might actually be what the OP claims, wholly by accident. 

I really hope I did not offend you. Was not my intent. 

Also... sometimes it can be fun to ride a bike in to a wall. Just saying... there is something very wrong with me..but I think it so :P

Unfortunately, this can be an issue with so many games in this genre... the authors are often young, with little romantic or sexual experience themselves, and with little to no real world experience dealing with the victims of darkest aspects of the human condition and the traumas that come with it. Add to this, they are often from non-western cultures, and it is often shocking just how problematic the narrative implications become if you probed them too deeply. 

There really is not much you can do. 

I do not think it is intentional. If you have played the Devs other game, Sicae... it is bat sh*t crazy, fuelled by every edgy lord art cliche, and absolutely ridiculous. Every bad Hong Kong B grade action movie, B grade Spaghetti Western, and Driven Matinee schlock...thing... you can imagine. Sh*t you think is SOOoooOOooooo CoOOOooooooOOOool when you are like... a 13 year old boy. 

I THINK in that case, it is definitely deliberate...  knowingly cliche trite edgy tryhard stuff... done with a chuckle...maybe.. I think... but still with some serious lack of awareness. In that game, I am not sure it is a problem. But if it IS in this one, and I guess I should DL now, and see.. I suspect, again, it is unintentional oversight, from a Dev looking for easy, but what they hope is still meaty, narrative to make the relationships work? 

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This one should be called 'Legend of Coosey Cafe: The Spankening'

I mean, this is a spanking simulator at heart, really. 

I aint gonna kink shame. But I do have some thoughts. Everyone's a critic, eh, as they say. 

Not sure how I feel about this one, most of the people in the harem, are people who, by law, would be classed as vulnerable persons, and youth at risk, in my country... and a whole team of Rachels, some with weapons and full law enforcement powers, would be swarming the Cafe in jiffy, once anyone learnt of the harem I was building out of such people. At least in so far as they would investigate the situation at the bare minimum just to make sure there was no significant exploitation. Even as adults at 18, since they are all still school girls. Additionally, Allison and Misaki are wholly questionable, ethically speaking too. IDK that niggles me, even worse than forced fantasy play, incest play, and other dark, taboo, kinks in these kinds of games. Thats cultural, I am not sure this would be the case in the devs world. I can sit on that I guess. 

But then if I do, what do I have? I aint gonna kinky shame... but the spanking... man oh man.. the spanking. Spanking Simulator 1.0 would be another appropriate name for this one. And BOY is it a SLOW BURN. I do NOT mind the story, aside from serious questions about the ethics of the MC seemingly exploiting the vulnerable. I got in to it. To a degree. The whole Pseudo Aristocracy thing. The Machiavellian nonsense which comes with it. I enjoyed seeing SOME depth to the characters, the girls anyway. Almost cared for Catherine.. the first time in an AVN I ever have, by the time we get the full picture of her circumstances. But MAN OH MAN, the game is pretty long already.. nothing wrong with that, I love it... but ultimately, for all that effort.. sure you get some oral play, some heavy petting, some digital play both ways... and a WHOLE LOT of spanking.. but you actually only get your end in, what, five times? Thrice with the same girl (though I do give kudos to the devs for one of them being in a semi-public place, and one wholly public). 

Hours in, and you still aint gotten a taste of even one of the THREE redheads, for example, you are seducing in to your harem. OK, we can assume one might be hard to conquer, because she is just trying to please her sister... but by the end... the shortest surrendered everything else, why not that? And that sister? She is REALLY gaming the MC huh? Everything she does, is done for her own goals.. and not once, has the actual honey laid out, to catch the MC better than vinegar, been tasted, that honey pot, still untaken, untamed, and unbroken, and owned. 

Also Misaki is going to cross all boundaries of the educators ethics, and surrender so wholly to the MC anyway, she should have been full clapped by then too, surely? 

AVNs need to strike the right balance between the A and the N. They need the Novel's narrative, and to have some depth, and cool story, something fun, or funny, or deep, or even just interesting... but they ALSO need well paced, long, well blocked, well animated and 'shot', multi-phase A scenes that are on par with the story part, if they want to impress... because quality demands quality. 

I feel this one, once you move beyond some 'Foreplay'...and yeah.. Oral is foreplay to this gamer.... and petting, toys, and promises... this one delivers... perhaps slightly less A quality, scene wise, and too little of them... to match the level of the story. 

I think this game has potential.. if it will be as long again, or longer, when finished, than what we have thus far, there is time to fix things... but they need fixing. There needs to be MORE hardcore Adult scenes... full...s*x.. not just messing about, and they need to be done in a way which really lets the eye candy element come to the fore. Our Kitty in the shower, for example, was a scene which would be classed as 'Softcore' were it film, by most censors around the world. Getting further, faster, and more explicitly with girls is necessary for the people like me, who play these games for the A above the VN elements, to stick around and not get bored. 

TBH, right now, this is like, maybe a 6/10. 


I gave it a 3 star rating. 


But I AM looking forwards to this continuing, seeing where it goes. 

You are on the path. This game was fun, and it only VERY early days. As I said, MOST games in this state, less than half way through the story, would not get a rating AT ALL. 

In fact, I think the only other one I have given one to is Realm Invader, and that game is already being touted not just by myself, but almost all the players who've played, as something which might well rival Eternum , which itself is the highest rated AVN on itch atm, and has been for quite some time. 

I am not even sure I rated Astreon or MayFly, two of the most exquisitely rendered, graphically top notch, aesthetically lush AVNs I have ever seen. So three out of five, at this early juncture, is quite the achievement I would say. Very much looking forwards to seeing where this one goes, I think there is so much potential here. 

The promise of Elf content is already enough to make rethink and give you two more stars :P 

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Ok, not bad... a batty implausible plot....but that is what I LOVE about AVNs. 


Some criticism though. Consider them constructive. 

First, SHOW do not TELL...  the final scene of the game thus far with Helen, needs to be reworked as part of the next update. Truly. If it progresses from one certain... happening... in one way....  in one place.... to all the happenings mentioned in the descriptor text when it fades to black, before the end scene with Lexi and DD.... THEN YOU NEED SHOW THAT. It might hard, take time... but that should be a scene which you put that effort in to. All positions, all angles, SHOWN.  It is not great for an AVN. If it was just a VN, without the A bit, as fundamental, you could get away with it. But in an AVN, where the A bit is front and centre, like this game... starting a scene... then fading and out and saying ...oh, and blah blah blah else happened too.. in a text note is not the best. 

I appreciate that the devs first language might not be English...so there might be something lost in translation. However, in its current form, the Never Have I Ever scene feels REALLY juvenile. It is also in comprehensible that a 20 something year old woman, who obviously is a University graduate, because she a teacher, and who used to be a gang leader in her teens before turning her life around.. is a virgin. Likewise, whilst I know it is just a cover story... a 20 something model, high enough in the industry to be a cover girl on fashion mags also conveniently being a virgin too? I know a woman who was a maybe one or two rungs down from Paris/Milan/New York catwalk model... but high enough in the industry to be a Billboard model for companies like Calvin Klein and Ralph Lauren.. the BARE minimum level you have to be, be considered to be a cover girl.. and has always repeated the one thing I would not believe is the S*X, everyone was having it. It was worse than the most ridiculous porn at times, she claims. After parties, with Rock stars, billionaires, and politicians, competing with pop stars, socialites and nepo baby aristocrats. Those might not seem a bridge too far for suspension of disbelief by themselves.. those improbable virginities... but the juvenile Never Have I Ever game being their context? Yup. Just too corny and juvenile so really slaps that improbability in your face, and breaks any immersion. 

DD/ Lexi: Ok I get the Dev has things to say between progression sometimes... many AVNs will do that, though honestly, it is NOT needed. But decide what she, DD, is there for. Is she part of the candy, or just a guide? Why make her some tease queen? It does not add anything to the game at all. And Lexi? Where the F did she even come from?  Just some rando Pastel Doll shows up mid game? Ok. But. Um. Why? Unless the new girl next update is going to BE Lexi... it really is confusing. I am sorry, not trying to be harsh, but a slightly pointless double act that does not add anything to the game. When the game is finally finished, I would recommend going back, and removing all those scenes.. they can work helping day 0 players, just updating as new EPs release.. but will wholly unnecessary in the finished game, unless they actually DO something in the game.. or make good on their little sexy interludes, and put on a show, whilst something loads, or something. They became EXTREMELY annoying by the end of what we have so far. 

Never the less... for what they are.. so far... the scenes are great, the girls are lovely, and varied, and I think there is one heck of a game potentially in the making. We have not really had many actual... full... s*x.. scenes... but I like what we got... though I would suggest the actual scenes be longer, and blocked/angled/'shot' more like actual adult film scenes... really proving an eyeful of the girls, there was a lot of POV, or close ups... and that is fine.. so long as there is also full shots, of the women, were we can really see them... doing their best. :P 


I will give this 3/5 for NOW... which is actually HIGH for me, for an incomplete game. I suspect that will 11 out of 10, once this game is finished. I have high hopes. 

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Not bad so far. One girl seems to be the focus of attention more than the others, atm, and we got nothing with the hot elf girl... and THAT better change :P ... no man of culture can be isekai'd without the reward of Elf P***y....   but otherwise not bad. 


I do not want to give it a rating until it is completed and we see more. If the story goes along this well paced, the puzzles do not become too tedious an the scenes improve just a little...  might need to be blocked, shot/angled, posed a little better, and be slightly longer... I can see this game being VERY highly rated. For now, lets say 3/5 stars... perhaps. I wont give it an Out of 10 rating though yet, still FAR FAR too early. 

How do you get through the interrogation, which statement do you object to? 

Man this game is awesome. The nitpicky stuff, that was little, disparate criticism, is a sign that not just the bones, but the flesh.... the meat....mmmmmm meat...such.... beckoning meat... ahem... where was I? 

Oh yes... the meat, the substance, was fantastic too.... when you, and I am perhaps just speaking about my own life.... bother to rouse from thy cave... open the curtains, and windows, breathe in the fresh air, lay out clean clothes, shower, soak in scented oiled bath, shave or trim to manicured perfection all which needs to be on thy form, then neatly style whats left, put on the finest thread of one's most opulent sark, and all the bells and whistles....

.....and then upon seeking feedback from the man in the glass, he comes to life only to tell thee, thy earing is orientated two degrees to far part optimal, that belt should be snake skin, not alligator, your shirt's v too shallow even with second button down, and those boots are slightly too dark to be truly the burnt umber they claim to be, colour wise....   

...then it means you are HOT. That means you look FINE. Better than even. 

If everyone sees you, and there is no group agreement that you're nose is too bent, those clothes too tattered, you stink, look like you're wearing clown shoes, and are shambling like a syphilitic leper... and your pp is tiny... and deformed...  like Balldric's favourite turnip....  chances are, things are not as much of a mess as YOU can self consciously think they are. 

This update was awesome. I just found your game, and finished was available, like a week or two before the last update...  so it was all fresh, and I was all eager....and if things tanked... or there was any real issues.... I would have felt it... but there was NOTHING.... it felt... seamless. 

I do not think you need worry that there is some conundrum about pleasing everyone... if there is NO commonality in the criticism, and they are criticising little issues.... guess what? YOU ARE basically pleasing everyone. 

If this game takes years, it will be worth it, so long as it stays at this level, keeps this vibe, the graphically quality and aesthetic remain, tonally, like what we have so far.... it will be one of the best games of its kind. 

Sounds like you got some burn out, and left you your own worst critic... , to which I say no, but sometimes one needs a break to see what they have achieved. I would let this project rest a little, and go do whatever else it is you love, to deprgramme before getting back in to it... and when you DO, do so knowing that you are definitely doing everything right. 

Mikey is my TV opponent, I cannot see where to rollback to Weasel. It looks like it is only Mikey, and I always lose. Maybe I have to grind in to more debt at the gym for hours. That makes me sad. But seems to be my only option... then once I can always beat Mikey convincingly, fight him for hours, to get out of debt, and have enough money to buy skills to beat Sagot. 

I have found now way to fight Weasel. I beat Mike, now have Sagot.. killed in two kicks. I go to the board to fight Mikey.... never win now... especially if I use kicks..they ALWAYS miss....  and I have no idea how to fight Weasel. 

This game is hard... and nothing is obvious. Even the quest tracking... I cannot talk to Aniya about things, I cannot do anything more than have alley love time with blonde Alley girl, I think I am meant to ask Anna to move out my house.. managed to move her in.... but then she hates me.... Leza does seem to be a love option, or the Nurse lady.... I unlocked a girl from the thug, the brunette... went her whole path.. leaving me broke... nothing more happens. 

I am a dead end until I beat this Sagot guy, I guess.. be he is like 1000 levels above me. 

Are you saying I HAVE NO choice but to GRIND for HOURS until I can beat him? 

sorry, but that is SO HARSH. 

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This is RIDICULOUS, I keep getting KO'd and going to in debt. ALWAYS EFFING DEBT. 

This is a GRIND. 

I am sorry, but for ANYONE with visual impairment, or physical limitations on movement, getting ANYTHING out of training is impossible.. always the minimum result, and defending in combat is UNATTAINABLE, and there is NO way to slow down the fights. 

I know I got this game for free, but it feels really unfair this game would be so depressing a grind, especially since so many people who play games these days, and especially this kinds, are people with some degree of limitations who have the time. 

Not fair at all. 15k in debt and climbing, achieved NOTHING, and no progress with ANY women.  I feel like this game is an exercise in the devs masochism. 

I cannot win.  I cannot progress. I train, Mikey is ALWAYS better.  I go further and further in to debt. Everything debt. DEBT DEBT DEBT, no way to buy stat upgrades, horrid mini game training. The short cut for fighting is WORSE. 

What is the effing point? 

I am sure someone could make a mod anyway.. but I think what would be great, is if there is a choice of setting who each person is to the MC.... like some games. Those games usually successfully use that as workaround for puritan ToS on Steam for example. 

This game is awesome, and full of so much promise. 

I greatly enjoyed the story, for something a little too romantic and idealistic for a middle aged man to normally enjoy... and though the adult content was a little bipolar... (I found some scenes to be a little too.. little...like I would have wished more.... but others amazing.. I especially enjoyed Bher's night time visit, the VA was wonderfully done too, and taming Byrus' mother, though I forget her name) I was pleasantly surprised by the amount of adult content thus far, and the willingness of the author to commit to that side of things, given the more...  magical, mystical, romantic supernatural elements to the story. On that count, this is ten out of ten so far. 

I just truly hope this game continues, and each new chapter maintains that balance between the A part of AVN and the N part....most games with real N heavy element because the dev is playing author and really has a song in their heart...but cant sing, so write.... create such intricate worlds, relationships, and stories..at the expense of the A bit. 

This game DOES NOT, and I for one appreciate it. My eyes and mind appreciates the story... my han... er.. other parts, do not feel left out and appreciate the ..ahem...action. 

Also I am TRULY grateful one can subtly, tactfully, avoid certain dynamic sexuale, without hurting or alienating an NPC, or cutting off a pathway that contains more than just love/lust dynamics (I am glad I did not lose my hacker Frankie, because I am not in to trans people.. no.. wait.. like, I like them, but not .. er that way.. iykwim). 

I will be honest. Visually, this game is not on the level of some others which seem to use the Honey+Select engine, which it looks like this does... either in environments, models themselves, or overall aesthetic... this is not an Eternum or Mayfly or RealmInvader.. games which really seem to use the engine well graphically.... but that DID NOT MATTER TO ME. It normally DOES. But that is how much I enjoyed this game so far, that does not dent my score for this wonderful ride AT ALL. 


This game so far, is 10/10. I thoroughly, wholly, enjoyed it. 

All I would ask is that the dev make good on the promises of this game moving forwards, and that means even the obscure ones... like a certain someone punished in to such C-struckness, she puts her own collar on, being part of any harem path, even as fleeting background character, and certain other background NPC's ... wink..  from behind a screen... being the invitation it felt like...even if her daughter is also part of the MC's collection by then :P :P 

Also... just one tiny suggestion too... I really love Bher... she is... AWESOME in all ways... and Cotez too....even though we barely know her.. just her awesome "I'm here because I care.... or am maybe too rich and bored"... thing. But I REALLY love their being VA'd. I would gladly sacrifice quantity of content with them.. for it all to be as well done, VA included, as Behr's nighttime visit. 

I truly cannot wait for this game to be fully finished, what a great game. 

No seriously... I just went back and tried everything again. 

If there is some trick, or can wind up deadended, then this game is unplayable. 

Sorry, I do not mean to be harsh, but this game DESPERATELY needs a skip feature for the mini-games. 

OK I am failing EVERY point in the Interrogation scene. I object to something, wrong, rollback, try the next, wrong.. repeat... over and over and over nothing works.... I have no evidence, because the MC is a little dumb... I know he is meant to be smart... but he is a little dumb... no criticism and I do not think it is a problem... but he goes off halfcocked... and I am literally STUCK. 


Kind of upsetting... be nice to have a way to skip the mini-games.

For ME they got better, got in to some world building, but also some interpersonal relationships and character bedding, backstory and building for MC and some other key figures. 

There is still a whole lot of exposition, but keep in mind, they are cramming, to front load all of the world building, all the dynamics, all the key factions, all the general sociology of the world they created....  from the get go. Games like this, normally have between ten, to twenty, chapters once fully complete. The more specific world particulars outside what our reality has, it has, the more the have to load that in ASAP.  

Info Dumping in the first ten minutes is POISON to these games... so what good devs will do, is introduce you to exposition, and text heavy establishment dialogue... with a mission like this games Bank heist. Get you comfortable with playing through it, get you used the story heavy elements, so they can then use that you're on that plane, in that mode, to then let a good chunk of the opening couple  of chapters be dedicated to explaining things. 

If there was no Sci-Fi, Apocalyptic, and fantasy elements, if there were no mythical races like Elves, if this game was set in like, 2020 USA... or Japan.. or England... anywhere really... with nothing supernatural, no mythological elements, no fantasy or scif-fi... you would KNOW how all the background elements of the world in which it was set work, right? 

But in games like THIS, they kind of HAVE to get in early, whilst striking a balance, as to not infodump you to helmet burn... to give you all the information, because the world is NOT like anything we KNOW, from races and beings, to technology, to the laws of physics even in a way. MY knowing that, and being an older game of some 40+ years gaming experience, means I took all that in my stride and it did not feel too bad or too much. 

I do not know it will for YOU, though. For me, it was good, and got much better and more interesting, with just right balance of pacing and exposition, to set me up to be keen as for this game to take off, and go right through to completion, because it will BE AWESOME if they actually fully realise it. That might not feel the same for you, so take my position with a grain of salt. 

BUT, I think, yeah, got better, and worth a play. 

So this game is dead, and will never be finished? 

Love this game, it is amazing. 


Feels like it might have been developed for VR though, judging by the scenes. FP POV scenes are still sweet... but for we normal mortals who play normally, I would love to see some third person scenes, blocked, paced, lit, and animated/shot like the best adult film... it does not have to be Blake or Salieri, but Brazzers will do... I am basically in love with Cait, Lyriel and Rae at this point...  but Yona seems to be the only one with scenes which allow me a full view of the experience :P 


Perhaps this 1st Person nature was a work around to avoid having to design and MC, which means any player can paint their own, and imagine themselves in the game? I can appreciate that if so, though I think it might still be my preference to have the adult scenes at least be 3rd Person. I would not care if I looked like a syphillitc teleltubby or something.. still worth it, to get a deep complex scene of such a nature from that third eye view as to really enjoy the splendour of the three gorgeous girls (yeah, three...  Yona, Naomi and Blair din nea do it fa me ya ken? :P ... though my dyslexic side appreciates Naomi for her name... which is sometimes.. I Moan.. am I right :P). 


But this game is long, and immersive, and wonderfully done overall. I think there should be some QOL improvements though, like hint menu. I took 146 days to work out I collected money for my dinner date with Rae from my bbedroom closet, after finally realising I was not going to find it automatically in the course of exploring other pathways related to MSQ and the girls. 


All in all, this is a SOLID 9/10 and only because it is NOT finished. When it is, especially if the scenes get some decent 3rd person action, and DEFINITELY if they add VA the way one of the devs mentioned below.. this will be a 1000/10  game. 


I eagerly await to see where this goes. 


AWESOME GAME, if you have not gotten this, GET IT. 

This game has the most lush, vibrant, and evocative aesthetic of ANY game in this genre I have EVER played. 

The character models are GORGEOUS. 

The story is..   not bad... but also..  I dont mind if it was, I do not play these games for N part in AVN, but the A part... the A part is BY FAR, leagues more important. 

The single complete moment of A in this game was.. GLORIOUS... long, well shot/blocked/angled/lit/phased.... and that sets the bar. 

IF this game loads up on the A enough, and the A is of a quality of the first taste.. it will be GOD TIER. 


I cannot wait. 

Seems to be a bit of a slow burn, and story intensive... but that said, the few adult moments in this so far were PHENOMENALLY well done, the author evidently did a lot of research regarding the art of adult filmaking :P 


Given the high quality visuals, and lush overall aesthetic of this game, the most important thing is that Adult scenes make good on the promise...  that there are MANY of them, and they are long, immersive, well blocked, lit, angled and shot, with multiphase progression... are, all in all, as much of a feast for ones eyes.. and hand... as the visuals are OUTSIDE those scenes.  


In THAT way, I say this game is SS tier... for now.. so long as it continues on this trajectory... but if you want something that is a slick, coherent, well paced, simple, story? Who knows. I play these games for the laughs, and porn. If you like that part of things... play more of this, endure, get past the bank job. 

A good start, will be watching. Visually, it is stunning, beautiful, and I am not worried about the passe Supernatural storyline... I am a man of culture who plays AVNs for the A part above all else.... it can be a manic, bipolar, cliche MESS of a storyline, as long as the Adult scenes are long, interactive, blocked, paced, and shot right, with high quality graphics. 


We definitely have the latter here... now I am just crossing my fingers we get Adult scenes which honor the promise of the aesthetic, and the quality graphics.

A whole lot of potential here. I enjoyed it so far. The girls are all a little same physically.. I would have preferred some variation; the 'Check her ID right ffing now" Waif,...the FloJo-esque, Oxygen Magazine Cover Girl Athletic type... the FBB Amazon Buff Bimbo.. the actually Barbie Doll Bodies, Dolly Parton Busted, perfectly surgically augmented faced, ACTUAL Bimbo... etc etc.... but honestly, for now, that seems to be my only critique. 

Well, saying that, I play these games for the A part in AVN... and think THAT is by FAR the MOST important part, far more than the N part, and options and opportunities in the game so far a few..  but even then, THEY ARE WELL DONE, and I appreciate that VERY MUCH. 

Really looking forward to see where this goes moving forwards. 

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Is it possible to actually GET with Luna? 

I LOVE this game, and I LOVED the update. 

But I am man of culture... and culture has told me, that if I get with the mother/daughter combo of Kasey... or Kira.. or whatever Jeweller Shop in 1999 K girl is, and her daughter... (whose name I also forgot because they are all just conquest aside from the Goddess that is Darci...  and Lunar... and Allyssa.... and Scarlet...definitely Scarlet... but the rest are just service aids)..and get with Scarlet AND Alyssa (and hopefully her sister too, even though she is so irrelevant to me I forget her name.. Allison maybe? :P ).... 

Then I should be a gentleman and not only engage in exploitativ...er.. I mean... understanding and supportive... erotic acts with Skylar, but also Luna. I should not stop there in my quest to become truly cultured, either... but I should also have an opportunity to show love, through making it, with Gabby, who surely appreciates my saving her... and the teacher... Darci's grammy...for a triple generational experience that can only leave me far more cultured. 

I understand if one does fully get to realise the potential cultural enrichment of ... is it Tiffany.. you live with? And the Tsundere daughter of hers, without consequences (though ideally, you're betraying us, if that is the case) ... and thus you need forgo them, if you wish other.. paths to generational enrichment.... (though ideally, a Lunar/Tsundere quasi-sister chick troika to get it all out, and make loving peace, really SHOULD be an upcoming option)......but the other multi-generational pathways should all be opened to the player, I say. 

Such a wonderful game, and I cannot wait for the next EP. I just hope those generational cultural enrichment pathways are opened to us in it. 

This game is AWESOME. I just hope it makes good on the promises of both Part 1 and Part 2. 

Between the household, and Professors Slave chick... there's been a LOT of PROMISES, and a LOT of EDGING, that I really hope to see fully realised!!!!

I hope that realisation takes the form quality scenes on par with the visuals, and narrative of this game too (akin to Eternum, or perhaps LISC and Race Of Life on Steam, the latter having perhaps the BEST blocked and render angles for the adult scenes of ANY game, with LISC a close second). 

If this game DOES make good on the promises for the Adult content made in the first two parts, through the rest of the game, and the author makes the effort to do them well. Animate them well, use the right camera angles, positions, pacing and blocking for the scenes, and from what HAS been offered, this looks like something on their radar.... then this game might top ANYTHING in this category/genre on Itch. 

There are some potential contenders out their for Eternum's current top rating....like Dawnfall and MayFly... but they are very early in development too. Compared to what this game has achieved already though, they have a HIGH BAR to meet. If I had to put money on what will be the highest rated AVN on here two or three years from now, with the current top rated one finished in full, and the two other just mentioned the same... if this game keeps this trajectory... I would not be surprised if THIS is winner. 

Oh, and also... the whole ball rolling promise of Kitty Cat girl and Bunny Girl, when we first have our currency thing stolen? Yeah, MAKE GOOD ON THAT. Everything I have said lauding this game, is predicated on the assumption I will get my beast girl bimbo threesome... maybe even the ability to go get one any time I have the Embers... if this is not a promise kept.. no matter HOW awesome this game is, and how well the quality is maintained through to the end of the complete game... it will be trash :P :P :P