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Take a walk. 

The world is majority Cis and Hetero. 

I am not even some MAGAT moron hard right stooge, or god forbid a Libertaritard.... I am the nomally called Libtard... but facts are facts.. the majority of the world is Cis Hetero.  I am white bloke, but to assume I am racist because I will not buy the lie of Big Is Beautiful, is weak AF, and just as offensive as anything I have said. I have a multi-racial family, Aboriginal relatives, Indian, Italian, North African, Greek, SE Asian and pacific islanders. Many of them children whom I LOVE, but because I do not buy the lie, you call me racist? Get lost. 

Yeah nah, sorry, I am the majority so no, we are NOT shutting up for you. 

How do I look? Not too bad for guy almost 50 who has inoperable/ curable bung hip which prevents his gym escapades and more.. I still manage to play sport once a week, and do my morning exercises. Was sick for years, but came good, just noted by my Dr that I lost 20kg since lats year, and look great. Why? Because being fat was ugly, so I cut out all sugar, took up partial fasting. and got back to exercising as best I can with my circumstances. 

Its great all the compliments I got as man in my 20s and 30s coming out of mouths again... got told I look like a young Brad Pitt just the other day, it was great. Because being fat sucks. 

Sorry, to the majority, it IS unattractive. 

Self image of young girls? If they are old enough to be insecure about being fat, MOST of them, yes I know SOME might have a legitimate reason, but MOST DO NOT, most then, are also old enough to go on a diet and get some exercise and CHANGE that. YES, it DOES make unattractive. Sorry. Same with fat boys. 

Skinny Bitches? What do you define as that? See you probably define anyone with a single digit dress size that way. But actually THAT IS NORMAL AND HEALTHY, try all you like, but FAT is abnormal. So being FIT and lean, can NEVER be a Fetish, is NOT taboo, not being sexually atteracted to the atypical, normally unattractive. 

I know a couple fellas deeply in to 'Fuck Pigs' and not just such women, but the whole stylised lifestyle around it. They love it. They also openly admit it is fetish and they are weirdos. 

You want to pretend the abnormal is normal just so you can feel good, great... but that doesnt mean you are right. 

As for why I played hours of this game? There is some hot bitches, real hot, the Agent, the Reporter, and I felt like if there was a chance I might get to slap-fuck them to chokegasms... my fetishes...  since there WAS borderline this kind of thing in the game... then it was worth riding out the munted mingers to get to the honeys and their honey. 

If you put the HOT chicks in the game in the roles normally reserved for the fat or ugly one's in a PROPER ACTUALLY GOOD AVN.. then you are either trolling HARD, or you are, indeed, MAKING A NICHE FETISH game. 

There is no argument here, go away. 

Fat-phobia is not a thing. No one is scared of fat people. 

But most people, of all genders, orientations, or proclivities, do not find fat people sexually attractive. 

This is a niche game for minority perverts, outside the majority, and that is fine, but should be made clear. 

Trawling through hours of content with unattractive women, just for the sake of the few hot ones, only to find they are unfuckable, is a terrible thing. 

Just tag the game as fat fetishist in nature and be done with it. 

I hope the next update has more action. 

The one non-abortve Adult scene was a solid 8/10... the LI's are gorgeous, and there is Cyberdoll Space Elf babes...  this could be 11 out 10 for an AVN. 

But if it is just going to be all exposition and story barelly any A part of an AVN, like Astreon or something, then it will defnintely NOT be. 

Has the potential to be a GOAT, but showing me all the tight customed cosy play c*mdolls and not giving us a ride with them? Nah, that's just bad. Story can be Shakespearean, and it will still be a bomb of a game. 

I am at the stage now where I would appreciate knowing who we ... ahem... spend some time with.... each update. 

Some AVNs give many women, but one or two moments with each the on to the next conquest, some give you a limited roster of women, but multiple opporunties and varied encounters with each. 

This one seems to be offering a large rost of ladies... though some seem to have been forgotten like the married blonde MILF .... but then we get a LOT of time with SOME but not enough with others. 

I am not complaining about the GF, she is sweet and cute, and the GF.. so makes sense... but her ...ahem... roomates...? Too much time on them for me really. Whilst that might be different if it was a group scenario... all the time... the GF feeling pity for them, lets them get a taste now and then... but I did not sign up to be coerced in dating them too... which is almost where it feels we are now.

The ... GFs.... landlady on the other hand is.. FINE.. and made even finer by the corruption Arc, and the ... media.. element. But then that brings up some other issues. The MC has.. a .. um.. Landlady too... and a Landyladies Sister.... and TBH, I could do with less GF sisters.. and less Secretary... and finally getting some of THEM. 

In fact I could do without Alex's friend.. or even so much time with Alex.. for the ... youngr Roomate... my Landlady and her sister... and for the married blonde milf and the girl in storeroom to come back. 

Sorry, but for me there is a distinct line in the roster of women, between the F-able, and the munters. Alex is... medicore and baseline....  which means GF's roomates, are below that line. So is the secretary. Alex's BFF is above it... but also excess to needs if we have cute Storeroom chick and Blonde Married Milf. 

I am just not interested in GFs Roomates or Secretary, or even Middle Roomate and her Machiavellian friend... not when there is the ingue goodness of younger Roomate.... and if I have Alex, I do not need Tsundere Roomate, she go F a pig for all I care. My view on this one now, will be waiting for content with MC;s Landlady, or her sister, Ingenue Roomate, GFs Landlady, or the Storeroom floozy or married Milf to return... and the content with the GFs Roomates, MCs Middle Tsundere Roomate, or Secretary, will be Tabbed through and exist for me only as transitional filling to access the stuff I want. 

But unless I can know who the MC makes some..   progress.. with each update.. that means I am waiting for the thing to be completed now. 

Exactamundo. 

This is really as bad a turn as Clermont being arrested... between the two.... the story took a dive. Not because this happens... but because we as the PC have NO agency to do anything about it which is really bad game design imho. 

I think it is there for the reading "This account has everything up-to-date and don't give a certain other website ad revenue.".... I think you can hazard a guess as to the website in question. 

Fair enough, I will hold out a bit and wait with bated breath, this is fantastic AVN, with so much potential, I can do that... but we really should be provided updates here on itch too, not get info second hand through commenters 

Almost ALL the Female LI's that you CAN engage sexually, are significantly shorter than the MC, they are all also thick...  I will hold off on calling them fat... but they are...   noticeably ... voluptuous. 

There ARE some women as tall or close to as the MC, with lean lithe bodies, or athletic physiques.... but they are all.. save the Bosses daughter, and the one time only Photographer ... inaccessible.. or were. I am talking about women like the Federal Agent, and the Reporter.. for example. All these women are WAY, to me, HOTTER than MOST of the actual LI's...  the only one I really thought sexy was the PA... but she spends all game ugly and distended because she is preggers.

I HAD hoped that as I got deeper in the game, the actual hot women would become available too....but as of when I last played it... which was when the Step-Mother was revealed to be the big bad of the game, just after the bosses daughter got up the duff, none of those women, other than the Bosses Daughter was accessible as sexual partners... save the Photographer, but she goes once, and then tells the MC straight up it will NEVER happen again. 

IF that is STILL what this game is... a short fat chick fuck simulator.. I will continue to pass, and unfollow... but there's been a couple of updates, so I am hoping the actual hot chicks are now fuckable content, sorry if that is blunt, but it is what it is. 

Oh for sure, wasnt suggesting you become the animation master, just wanted to contextualize my OG comment, because sometimes I seem to be a little brusque with them, but it was purely encouragement is all. I cannot wait to see where this goes. 

I did not want to seem overly critical btw, if it seemed that way... sorry just saw you reply to this now.... but I just wanted to give my opinion as someone who's got over 100GB of AVNs to hand at any given time (yeah I have a problem :P ) and a lot of experience with them. 

The A part of AVN is the defining feature of the genre to me... and this  game is so beautiful, it deserves sex scenes to match. That's kind of the angle with my comment, you know? If the sex scenes in this played out like an Andrew Blake or Phillip Mond pornographic film, in actual angles, perspective, blocking pacing and phasing... it could easily be one of the best in the genre using these assets. 

I look forwards to where this goes in future. 

When there's sex and English, this would be a banger, will keep and eye out in the future. 

This was GREAT but there was some issues.....  the Cat Girl.... whats her name? Should have been WAY more of her after all that, she was the mysterious urchin kid, then the ... what... Bimbo Karen's... Niece?... then blah blah... and ultimately.... her content was.... limited. That turned me off. 

More, this ended, to me, in a way which feels like there should be a sequel or more than one.... just... felt somewhat abrupt. 

I really hope there is more. 

Ohhhh. Well that is different, if the scenes at not exclusively POV, then yeah, this looks good, might give her a go

Thanks, I will wait and see where this one goes, if does an AVN which is aware that the A bit matters, then it could be one of the greatest games of the genre given his skills. Xing fingers in hope. 

Thanks, I will perhaps follow and see where this goes, I enjoy a good AVN, but POV scenes become a little overbearing when that is how every scene is. 

Just browsing the pictures on the page, are ALL the sex scenes MC POV only? 

Is this an AVN? Does it have adult content? I tried Astreon but gave up when nothing was made clear in the narrative, the MC lost all agency, and the adult content was for the most part, save the reunion scene, abortive and nothing but a tease......

....BUT..... I did think the women looked great in that one, and if the hot space elf pussy was given copiously, and not cockblocked to fuck, I would have rated it one the greatest AVNs ever JUST for the design, aesthetic and ambience of that one. 

So when I saw this one, I was VERY excited, but once bitten, twice shy, as they say, so as rude as it may seem, I am just gonna ask right up front, it this another tease fest like the space elf game, or does the MC go well beyond just ... clowning around... yeah I had to... with his women in this one? 

Ehhhhhhhxcellent 

I cannot wait until something drops

What a fantastic update..  I loved the...... Dress up.... bits.... but I think our MC is right.. it time she dropped the charade :P 

I cannot wait until she is willing to face that she is just a depraved MILF minx who is in love with the MC and  is incredibly aroused and turned on both making the ...  art.. they make together.... AND because she's.... who she is... in relation to the Wifey material. 

We already got a nice little ... sorority... moment within that... household....if there is a god reading this... he will bless us with the same with the Dress Up Milf involved.... she is a very cleanly woman, after all... and a nice little... feeding moment, with those others, like a momma bird feeding...   nutrient rich protein cream.. ..to he naughty little hungry chicks... would be.... delicious. 

Also....  the Matriarch being more involved was nice to see... I just hope we do not have conquer the bitchling, and her manipulative bitch friend, before we ..... bond... deeper... in ... love... with her. 

I am kinda really only interested in this ball for her, because I figure if I pull it off for her, she might do the same for me... then  switch up and swap fingers for lips :p

Awesome... Moon, if what I managed to read about it is correct...seems like it will tie up... one more string... in terms of.. Unification.... but will that be the end, or will there be more in the series.. I kind of hope there will be more, once the... tribe had been reunited. 

OK I jumped for this on Steam, since it popped up when searching for news about another AVN I have... and man, I loved it. I can see where your are going.. I can wait for the Moon game to be released.

One thing though....  two actually.....

1) Cute blonde ingenue ends pregnant I read will that be optional? I dont really like my harem having distended tummies in my AVNs. 

2) Will we get some .... finishing moves..... options? Seems like there is a LOT of cream pies on the menu.... but sometimes you just want to glaze something pretty, like a Doughnut, frost them good, you know what I mean? And given the.... genetic abnormalities... or more specifically, the ...consequences of such... for female line.... and how that plays out by the end (gloriously plays out.. I love it).... even some generational sharing of the... ahem...  frosting... would be really great. Are there some more options to just simple cream fillings on the menu eventually? I really hope so. 

Well, if there IS an Update coming this coming month, it will be worth the wait if it is of the same quality....but I am not sure where the other guy got that info, so yeah,  if there is nothing coming within the next few weeks, I think I will unfollow and delete the game. 

So we got more action in this now? Is that the 10 animations? I have enjoyed this in the past, but ran out of content, is there more now? By content, I mean Adult content, obvs, since this is a AVN type dealio. 

Wow, you look...     disturbed. 

Is there any sex yet or nah? All the teasing feels like it SHOULD pay off. I do not care if it 'is not that kind of game'.... it is an AVN.... go make it as a mystery thriller using the VN format otherwise.... if you make it as an AVN, the A bit is the MOST important bit.... and this seems to be tease fest full of nothing but cockblocking BS, fuck that... lets get eyepatch bent over and creampied, lets get Streamer reamed out in an dirty alley.... lets gets SOMETHING, bloody ANYTHING happening instead of the abortive BS. 

That aint bad, might give this one a look.

To be honest, I do not class the Gym scene NTR either.... but alas.. ... there ARE a lot of fragile lonely guys playing these kinds of games. Whilst NTR and Cuckold are not even the same thing, yet alone when there is no established relationship..... within the fandom of the genre... and in a SMALL part this is due to some games which initially got popular having blindsiding NTR without warning...... but most just through fragility and insecurity of much of the player base.... within the AVN sector... sadly, NTR has come to mean ANY sexual interactions between a Love Interest... or anyone sexually accessible to the PC, and anyone else. 

It is not strictly NTR in the strictest sense, that adheres to the original Japanese traditional definition. BUT, within the AVN sphere.... for much of the player base, ANYTHING whereby a sexually accessible roster character.....be they primary Love Interest, Side Piece, or even just one off pump and dump....has ANY sexual engagement with ANY other party than the MC... but especially with other men... is generally considered NTR. 

Personally, I avoid that if I CAN, but it DOES NOT destroy a game if it happens.... I just understand the self insert egotism of it... I too prefer it when the MC, ME as the PC.... gets all the pussy, and the only NTR/Cucking is ME fucking other men's women, eventually making them mine...... but there is a whole lot of AVN players out there who can ONLY accept this.....the only LGBTQI content can be when THEY as the PC allow additional females to share in sexual encounters with any given one they are focusing on.... and the ONLY infidelity can be when hot bitches suck and fuck their MC... and nothing else at all. 

And if you include such content, without warning, and opt outs to avoid it.... man, they will definitely let you know about it.  It IS a lot of work though, to make two lots of scenes for everything. The BEST games in the genre handle the Trans thing, by making the trans character ... receive...for the most part.. not ... ahem... give... and then make TWO MODELS, one where that character IS trans... and one where they are female... and the player can select at the start. They usually handle the NTR thing... by not necessarily having an equal amount of scenes.... so three NTR scenes... you get three hetero non NTR scenes if you do not chose that path.... but instead they'll often include say three or four to one ratio... if there is say three NTR scenes in a chapter... and players avoid... they get ONE non-NTR sex scene on that path... BUT, they, the devs, will make it a good one, at the longer end of such scenes, multiple angles and perspectives, maybe some really hot kink involved, well lit, well phased, especially hot depraved writing. Apparently that still takes less effort than making three non NTR scenes to match content for the NTR ones... but also usually keeps players happy. 

I'll think about subscribing, but to honest, because I have, in the very early days, scene peoples work from other sites, coopted.... shall we say... and integrated in to works on patreon, without recompense... whilst the person so doing makes money of that work... I have an ethical dislike of the platform, and tbh, usually feel like I will never use it. 

HOWEVER, I'd be happy to pay again, for the completed game, when it is finally done, if it is listed here. 

I enjoyed what there was, the models are gorgeous, the variation is greatly appreciated, the 'Landlady' character is one the hottest mature ladies I've ever seen especially (usually they look way too young, to be the.. Landlady.... or they look their age... but also are rather...  unattractive.. like the Devs cannot imagine what beautiful woman in her 40 s or 50s looks like... but this one? NAILED IT). 

The content build up worked well too, for me.... and the .... exploitation.....twist with the Therapist.... and the ... involvement ...somehow of the Hairdresser (which I hope is made clearer next update).....was hot and built a LOT of anticipation. 

The fact the NTR and Trans content was wholly avoidable was fantastic too. 

It I had any criticisms, they'd only be minor. I would have liked alternate scenes if we DID skip the NTR and Trans content... perhaps BOTH the landlady AND tenant get ... digital... experience with the MC.... even if you choose one the first time.... then the other also eventually gets a turn. to make up for missing a scene by skipping NTR... and perhaps a little moment with... idk.... someone else at the Salon.. if you skip the Trans scene? Something like that would have been nice, since there is such little content, and skipping content you are not into in this case, means you miss out on scenes, when there is so few of them. 

Also, I think, for me, and I am sure this can be improved going forwards... again since there IS so little content for now... I would have LOVED for the landladies... ahem.. shaving... scene... the therapists .... special treatment scene at the end.... and then... her.... night time escapade with big daddy cop...., and the .... um.... Biker.... escape......  to be longer... more detailed.... really show me what I can expect from the scenes going forwards, you know? Maybe some changes in perspective, a little more to them, some changes in angle, that sort of thing, to really highlight what we could expect going forwards. 

But all in all, considering everything.... for a short, early, new game right at the start.... I will give this a VERY sold 9/10.... maybe half a point off for the scenes maybe being a little short, and half a point off for missing out on content when you chose to skip NTR or Trans content. 

I cant wait for more. 

One additional question though, will I now have access to the games future updates, or will I have buy them each time? 

Well dude, flattery gets you everywhere....  you just sold a copy of your game! I enjoyed our conversation too, as said, many devs are far less... approachable... shall we say :)

And it was GLORIOUS

Oh no, we are already at the end game content for some routes? NooooOOOoooOOOoooo....the game is SO GOOD, and the women SO HOT, than I was really hoping for something as epic as Nephilim or Eternum or such in terms of length and content lol. 

I hope there is more to the Ruby Jade routes... a  long Dom route with them would be amazing. 

Will try the update ASAP. 

Well thanks for taking my rambling as it is meant, I just wanted to address any ambiguity in my initial post, for clarity's sake, as well as explain WHY I was asking what I was. 

So, the run time of 1:20 means an hour and half near enough, of content, yes? 

I think I will give this one a try, your professionalism and understanding says very good things about you, and by extension, gives me good vibes for the game (I have dealt with a lot of devs who get extra butt hurt and offended when I hit them up from the get go about details of their game and just HOW MUCH of an actual A-VN it is, so your reply welcomingly refreshing). 

I decided not to play BECAUSE OF YOU. 

Capiche?

I asked some SIMPLE questions about the game, because of the ambiguity in the listing.....  the answers to which YOU, as the DEV, absolutely KNOW. 

Instead of just telling me the answers to my queries, you got coy, basically saying 'Nah, play and find out, if you want to know'.... which bullshit of the highest degree. 

The moment someone tells you 'Just take a sip and see'... you know they are dodgy as fuck. 

You are being a dick. THAT SIMPLE, and you KNOW it. 

I do not know WHY, but do not try to make out as if you have done nothing. I asked for clarity about your game, and you could not even give me a straight answer. STILL wont. 

Yeah, total dick move. 

AWESOME

More about the action, and the dynamics that come from it... when boundaries are crossed... and journey beyond those boundaries? 

That is good. 

Yeah, I guess impatience is way to describe it.. though tbh... it is more just relative experience. I have played a LOT of AVN. For me, the key defining feature, for the AVN, is the A bit. Adult. In the context, Adult in this case means Adult as in Adult Film, or Adult Bookstore... not say, Adult themes (there's tons of game which deal with everything from Murder, Rape, and Torture, through to War, genocide, War Crimes all the way through to acute mental illness, depression, and suicide... and even deal with a myriad of sexual kinks and fetishes along the way.. which are not classed as 'Adult' legally in terms of what that tag actually means.. because there is nothing explicit in them, they deal with those things maturely, but with restraint). 

So having jumped in a far too many AVNs where the Adult bit... the MOST defining feature of the AVN, which separates it from any other genre of game using the VN format... which are  either underdone with the adult content, or backload most of it... under the argument from the Devs that it is a 'Story Rich' AVN and 'Not that kind of game'.... which I reject out of hand for the above reasons; the A bit it is the MOST important feature of the AVN....  I just like to do some due diligence, you know what I mean? 

A premise like this, for me, feels like it would be MUCH more interesting, if it is explored as the hook being the MC crosses those lines, the women in his world do too, at least the ones which society says SHOULD NOT, and then tension is about the fall out....sorta maybe like... idk... say... one is ridden with guilt and engaging her in that way perhaps comes across almost as an exercise in masochism for her, whilst it is still unclear if she actually likes that, one is possessive and insatiable to the point the forbidden which must be kept secret is at risk of being revealed through her jealousy, or another is basically only doing the whole thing because it her way of paying for the attention she gets... almost like some kind of Munchausen By Proxy because of the MC's disability.... something like that. Whilst also all the while the MC might be trying to form more normal, natural, relationships, not only sexual, with the spectre of forbidden constantly making him uncertain of WHAT is a normal relationship, or if he can even form them now.... and even more, juggling the secret of his returning vision even as that becomes the supposed catalyst for ever darker, more depraved dynamics. 

BUT... I have definitely played games with similar themes, or suggested dynamics... where basically the Adult content was not only minimal, and poorly done, but back end loaded, in weak porn dump, after copious amounts of teasing and last second cock blocking... because the Dev thought they were Shakespeare, and wanted everyone to play their amazing story... which was mediocre most of the time... and basically only made good on the promises of the dynamics he or she exploited as narrative hook for their edge lord drama, as doggy treat tokenism for getting through their story, at best, or because they just knew sex sells and tossing in some porn would slip their game in to the Adult niche, removing it from competing with MUCH better VN format games made by actual professional studios, which might drown it out and overshadow it otherwise. 

The worst thing about the latter games most of the time, in my experience, is they do NOT be HONEST about being that kind of BS up front in their listing and marketing... and usually take way more than say, two hours, in the case of Steam... so by the time you realise you have been had... at least in AVN terms.. because the garbage you are playing is a TERRIBLE AVN... even if a good VN for small amateur team or solo dev... it is too late to get my money back. 

Sadly, this means as rude as it seems or I may come across.. I just outright ask now. No offence meant. 

Interesting premise, this one looks promising. I could be down to git it a whirl, but I wanna know straight up...is this all just a tease fest, one of those games about taboo, forbidden desires which backloads the action in the last few chapters of the game, but is mostly all abortive stuff until then? 

That's cool, if it is...just not for me... but if things actually meant to heat up relatively quickly, if lines blur and boundaries break early enough for it become that which is explored... then I could be down. I know it is only like a 20 minute demo, but I will follow and come back to buy it if it is meant to be a game off the latter variety. 

Man that really sucks. Sorry to hear. 

I kinda have a little trauma from the trash on Steam, and dealing with disingenuous devs, so I guess I will just hold my breath hope that one day, enough of your future games are doing well enough for you that this one becomes free like the first one. 

But thanks for your time. 

I think I wont, because of you. 

Word of advice, when someone who is thinking about something you are offering, even if free, asks for some details, just give them the details. You know the answers. This is why they are asking you. 

Being a  complete a-hole about it, is going to bring you unstuck at some point in you life. But because you ARE an a-hole, you wont listen to the advice, and now I have to go through my life knowing I will not get be there when you fubar-ed so hard you cry. I can live with it though. 

Being a dick is not a good look though. 

Not concerned the focus will not be on sex.... but a game about fetishes invariably needs have sex, most of the fetishes I experienced in the game, were absolutely sexual in nature, and I felt it very weird there was almost none, save I think I one very short, softcore scene. So changing that a bit, as you put it, is great to hear. I might come check it out one last time once it is done. 

I mean, that was the whole point of this post. 

To avoid walking in to something I did not like. If I ask a car salesmen about the spec sheet, he does not say 'find out for yourself'...even when he will let me test drive it. If ask for details about that new bench saw I have my eye on, the Hardware store owner does not say 'just get it, use it, you will see for yourself'. 

Feels a bit disingenuous TBH, I might pass this one, if a dev cannot even give me straight answer to a relatively simple question about their game, without being vague and evasive... that implies something about them and the game.