That is the other problem. Patreon and I, as well as several others that I know of, have issues. I removed myself from their site as a customer and producer. I write short stories. I found out that several people besides myself had issues with them. Simple things that done multiple times, such as double and triple charging, that you have to go through hoops to fix with them. And their customer service is far from easy. Every time that I have had to deal with them, they acted arrogant about the situations. Things eventually got settled, but not until I had to jump through their hoops and talk to multiple persons to find the right one that could fix the issues.