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It's okay, I talk a lot without paying attention... Regarding the three entities (the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit)... since they are all considered one entity and they are all God: 1. In the Bible, this term was never mentioned clearly and explicitly..   The names are yes, but the concept of the Trinity was not mentioned, and Jesus did not call for it.. 2. They also say that they are all gods, so they are all equal... So how can Jesus, peace be upon him, be a god when he does not know the time of the Hour (the Day of Judgment_)... 3. We  We believe in Mary and the miracle that occurred and all that...but this does not mean that the Prophet Jesus is a god...if the matter were going in this way, then our master Adam, peace be upon him, would surpass him..because he was born without a father or a mother

If we want to make a logical comparison without any biases: in Islam you find one God..it has prophets among them Jesus and their seal is Muhammad, may the best of prayers and peace be upon them..they carry the message of monotheism and each of them has his miracles...but in Christianity you find that there are three gods..  You find a God who turns into a child and depends on someone else (I mean that he was a child breastfed by his mother)...and you find that he was crucified (we do not believe in that. God cannot insult his innocent son in this way in order to forgive people's sins..since he is able, he can forgive them.  All of it without sacrificing the blood of an innocent person)...sorry it's too long...it's complicated and if you want us to stop for this reason that's fine 😄

l See u are Right . I hope for answer to uchiha questions.

Thank you. I appreciate this :D

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Ok, if you think I don't have an answer to that, you're right, a few hours ago I saw this message, and I left it last to answer, but now I do have an answer, I cried out to God and he answered me (Jeremiah 33:3)

My answer to your question is this:

You say that in Islam, you find the prophets (among them Jesus) with the seal of Muhammad... right?

Well, first of all, the Islam religion defines Jesus as a prophet, a common mortal, and who did not die on the cross.

As you said, you consider it blasphemy, the fact that God sent his son into the world to die in the hands of sinners...

Ok, let's clear this up:

God, when he created man in Eden, knew he was going to sin, but he didn't care, because he loved us.

The Bible in Saint John 3:16, says:

For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, so that everyone who believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

The Bible, in Romans 3:20-23, says:

20 For by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified before him; for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

21 But now, apart from the law, the righteousness of God has been manifested, testified by the law and the prophets:

22 The righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ, for all who believe in him: for there is no difference;

23 Because all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God;

This means:

1-Man sinned in Eden, and sin separated us from God.

2-Jesus came into the world to fulfill the law of God, and he did it, by never sinning.

3-Jesus fulfilled the law, and died on the cross WITHOUT SIN.

Jesus in Matthew 27:46 says:

And about the hour of ninth, Jesus exclaimed with a loud voice, saying: Eli, Eli, lama sabachtani? This is: My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?

God the Father, he had to turn away from his son, he had to forsake him, he could not tolerate so much sin, that's why Jesus said "why have you forsaken me?"

When God the Father abandoned his son in this way, Jesus took on himself the sins of all humanity, it is written in 1 Peter 2:24, where it says:

He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, so that we, being dead to sins, might live to righteousness: by the wound of which you have been healed.

Jesus never had sin, but even so, sinners who hated him without cause, Jesus said so in Saint John 15:25 which says:

"...who hated me without cause."

They nailed him to a cross, and the cross was the condemnation for the sinners of that time... that's how those who condemned to death died.

Jesus was sentenced to death without having sinned in him.

So, for that reason, (that He had no sin) He was able to carry on the cross the sins of all mankind, including yours and mine.

Since Jesus had no sin, he could be resurrected, because the Bible says in Romans 6:23

For the wages of sin is death: but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

And since Jesus had no sin, death could not hold him, He left life, of his own free will, and of his own free will, he took it again.

That allows every sinner to be saved, because the other part of the text says:

"But the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."

It says that the gift of God is eternal life, in Christ Jesus Our Lord.

That means that Jesus, in fulfilling the law, says the Bible in Ephesians 2:15-16:

15 Settling enmities in his flesh, the law of the commandments in order of rites, to build in himself the two into a new man, making peace,

16 And reconcile both in one body with God through the cross, killing enmities in it.

Jesus defeated sin, and abolished the law, for which, from that moment, allows ALL sinners to be saved 💖

To accept "the gift of God" we must do what the Bible says in Romans 10:9 which says:

That if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Just SINCERELY BELIEVE FROM THE HEART that Jesus died on the cross for our sins, we must believe that HE RISEN on the 3rd day, and accept him as our savior, and ask for forgiveness for our sins by praying to him.

Friend, if you want to be saved, you must pray to God, God does not ask for a long, perfect, rehearsed prayer, or anything like that.

God wants a sincere prayer.

To pray is to talk to God, to be saved, you must pray asking him for forgiveness of your sins, accepting that Jesus died for you, and that he rose again on the 3rd day, and that he now lives, and is seated at the right hand of the Father.

The prayer must be sincere, you must believe what I told you, from the heart.

If the part about how to be saved was not clear to you, tell me, and I will try to help you, it won't be a bother.

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It's not annoying at all..I'm happy because we're talking as a Muslim  and a Christian...well, if Adam, peace be upon him, fell into sin..and as in the Qur'an, God punished him and brought him and his wife down to earth.  For them to work and toil and live there for an appointed term (the afterlife)...but this sin was not passed on to the rest of mankind. It is Adam's fault and he asked forgiveness from his Lord, as he asked that He endow him with word's that he says so that God may forgive him and He has forgiven him...God says: And do not bear asoul the sin of another soul...do you know what...God forgives a non-Muslim if he pronounces the Shahada and believes in him..All his previous sins..as if he were a newborn child..without sins..  We pray 5 times a day.. Fajr (early morning), Dhuhr (midday), Asr (before sunset), Maghrib (sunset) and Isha (night)...we are in contact with God 5 times a day..so you know  We do not pray for him..because if we pray or not, this will not affect him..we pray because in prayer there is mercy, forgiveness, and prayer for the soul...As a Muslim, I respect all religions, and this is what is imposed on me..God commanded us not to mock other religions  And not to force anyone to convert to Islam..the guidance is from God and we have to clarify the message...I respect you and your belief...but we believe in Jesus and love him, but in return you deny Muhammad, may blessings and peace be upon him, and mock him...I heard a lot of lies about him....  This is what makes me sad

Ok, I have an answer for that, but it would take me time and right now, I have to go to church, and my parents don't let me use the computer anymore, I'll answer you tomorrow, bye for now...

It's okay..it doesn't mean that if you don't answer, you lose the discussion, the matter cannot be discussed here...I understand that it is difficult to talk through writing..I don't mind if you want to stop..I was really pleased to talk to you..salam

Jesus does not know the time, because in Saint John 14:28:

"...the Father is greater than I"

I thank you because you proved what I said to you and supported it with evidence... Well...we said that the Trinity (the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit) are all one God...which means that they are equal in value...knowledge, power and all the attributes of God...1.  The attribute of immortality (non-death) does not apply to the Prophet of God, Jesus.  ..Jesus when he was a child was weak and dependent on his mother and not self-sufficient...that clearly means that he is not a god...he is a prophet but he has miracles from God..I hope my words are clear, I am not good at English and thank you again

My friend, Jesus did not depend on his mother, his mother took care of him, because it was her duty, but the one who really took care of him was God the Father, what do you say, that Jesus depended on his mother... well, tell me:

Moses on the Nile River depended on his mother?

No

His mother took him to the Nile River.

His sister WATCHED the basket, she didn't take care of it.

The one who really kept Moses was God the Father, tell me:

Could his sister or his mother save him from a river crocodile?

No

And Jesus did not depend on the food that his mother gave him either, he said so in Matthew 4:4

Man will not live with bread alone, but with every word that comes from the mouth of God.

I hope these words convince you my friend.

You are right...allah says with his meaning that if mankind and jinn gather to benefit you with something, they will not benefit you..and if they agree to harm you, they will not succeed..because God is able to do so..but what I say is that he was breastfed by his mother..imagine  A God who breastfeeds from his mother..Imagine a God who has a mother...He was born without a father and spoke while in the cradle, and this is true...but it is a miracle from God and will not put him in the position of God...God supported and protected him because he is a prophet..as the rest of the prophets...  I hope my words are clear

God says in the Qur’an (to know God): Say, He is God, one.  God is the enduring.  didin't born and didin't have children.  And he was not equal to anyone.

Sorry that I didn't answer fast. I was going to now, but I see that Clint has already explained better than I could. 

lol..Don't worry, I thank you for participating in the dialogue...he has already answered..but I can't explain my point of view because writing is not the same as saying and verbal explanation...thank you for everything

That is true