I can't find the answer to this, but how do you dodge missles using information from that triangle that appears when a missle is locked to hit you? I see it changing shape, but I don't understand how to use its visual shape shifting to dodge enemy missles. Any help would be awesome. Thanks!
There are two techniques you can utilize in different situations. You should have already noticed that when the missiles get closer the triangle gets larger and the alarm rings faster. The alarm sound is the most important part of missile detection.and avoidance. If the alarm is sounding off rapidly you can choose to either use your flares or you can use maneuvering. If you choose the maneuvering you can use the shape of the screen to choose the direction of your maneuver. The best practice is to overcome the maximum turn rate of the oncoming missile. This can be done be analyzing the direction the missile is homing in from. Once you have determined the angle the missile is approaching, begin turning the same direction where the missile is coming from. This will force the missile to turn sharper to strike a hit. If the missile is continuing to home in closer even while using this evasive maneuver pop flares. This combo will defeat 99.99 of missiles coming your direction.
Hi, having purchased a gaming laptop and a joystick this was one of the first new games I tried out, and my god is it beautiful and fun. If I could nitpick a bit, it might have been brought up before, but I think with the Viggen's long range anti defense missiles although it visually occupies the two inboard pylons, the HUD displays only one is available before reload. But still, very good game!
Incorrect. The game IS fun, period. It would be more fun for YOU if YOU upgraded your PC.
Your having an old PC does not make the game less fun. The game is what it is. You just need to upgrade. And hey, if you can't, I understand, I do, but it doesn't make the game any less fun because your computer is slow.
Plays and looks better than AC, very enjoyable demo. The sounds on target hits should show bit more scatter clutter, smaller bits n bobs flying round the main missile hit randomly. The ground, the hills, the rocks and the desert terrain look fantastic but other places round the World will have green flora, trees, military movements etc.
Campaign could be I am just wishing something like in 'Strike Commander' where the main pilot is part of a organisation, taking up big contracts from nations hiring to take out their bad guys, through precision strikes and a team of pilots fly to different governments round the World and do these missionary contracts.
SC was a old but ahead of its time game when it first came out in 1993. I still remember firing those aim-120 amraam.
Falcon 4 was another flight sim that came a long way to being great, spent tons of hours on that one.
You are on the right path from what I have seen by playing this demo today.
Whatever the campaign you have in mind I feel assured, will be just great and we shall enjoy playing this full game in the near future.
Many thanks for letting us try this upcoming game.
Control feels great. 1st person camera movement is great. Keyboard control of throttle is ambiguous, which may better be indicated with percent of output power, e.g. 70% for cruise throttle, 100% for full throttle, 120% for after burst, etc.
Personally I was hoping a game like Novalogic's F16, MiG29, F22 series, with well designed campaigns (need tactics), reasonable payloads (not just shooting hundreds of missiles), excellent aerodynamics, multiplayer modes, etc. This arcade air-shooting game is fine, but personally speaking I am not the target customer. Good luck!
This is like a better version of Ace Combat. The controll feels really good. The sound is realistic unlike Ace Combat which you can hear only music. Ace Combat's bot pilots talk like some middle school teenagers on the radio. While this game have some chatter on the radio, they keep it to the minimum just enough to tell the story. Make this a full game with campaign mode and it will be so much better than Ace Combat
I think the controls here and everything else is perfect. One thing I like also is that it has as its minimum difficulty level something reasonable that won't make you pull your hair out. Ace Combat 7 has made me want to throw my monitor across the room so many times. I don't know what game companies game by having an easy setting, as not all gamers are great at gaming or have all the time in the world to get to that point. I'm hoping your still developing this its a definite buy for me when the final version comes back.
Hey, This Looks like a AMAZING game, But I Cant Seem to Run it, It keeps giving me the Fatal error Crash (ive tryed the Unreal Engine) Its asking for a UnCooked Verison, Is there anyway to fix this? Thanks.
I want to ask about the jet license, is this game going to rent those license like Ace Combat or make a fake name for the jet? I know it's not cheap, but what is the team planning to do? What different feature can we expect in this game that makes a difference compared to the Ace Combat? As the team that had said the game was inspired by Ace Combat, so of course, we are going to expected some similarity, but also should there be something new in this game? We know one of the hardest things is writing the main story for the game. The Ace Combat had created a parallel world, so what is the plan for the Project Wingman? We know there is a campaign, but we don't know what story going to be, is a story that happened in the real world, or the team decided to make a new one? There is more I would like to ask, but I don't want to put too much pressure on you guys.
I played the demo just now and I think its great. No matter what changes you make in the future, please keep as an option the simplicity of play that it is now. I hate when devs try to make it too realistic and then the fun is down. So all I am asking is that if you do make it more complicated to play in the future, just keep the way it is now as an option. If you keep that I'll have no problem purchasing the game!! Oh and by the way are you going to include VR support for Windows Mixed Reality Headsets like Samsung's HMD Odyssey.
I played the demo, I love the violins in the soundtrack. I see a lot of potential in this very arcade-ey game, and it looks like it will be a ton of fun to play through a campaign. I'm sorry I missed the kickstarter.
I only have 2 questions as a newcomer: "How much do I need to pay for this honestly entertaining project?" And secondly, "When can I pay you the money?"
this is awesome! the game gave me so much fun and i have really enjoyed it! but i think the sound effects of some points in this game are little bit weak. like, when missile explodes or when aircraft get closer to each other or it explodes. it would be better to improve the sound effects more rich and realistic.
I signed up to say that this "Alpha" is more polished than most full release titles nowadays. How can I pre-order this game? Looking forward to VR support. Excellent game thank you for creating this! P.S. to everyone trying this demo: turn off music and put some headphones on.
thx. for your reply. got it sorted a couple of days ago. i am playing this more than my x-plane. graphics not bad. anyone if you can land and take off?
I had the same problem. Just go into controllers in settings tab and click the key you wish to map. Your controller will appear in the box with the assigned key. Hope this helps.
It is a wonderful game honestly, I love the atmosphere change when you dive from above the clouds to below them, it feels.... real, and the way it handles with mouse aim feels like you are playing war thunder except on a fa18 hornet. However i think the mouse aim could need some more improvements to make it easier to use, other than that well done.
Hello. This game is getting better on every update. Keep up the outstanding work! This really deserves; "Made with Love and Dedication". Best regards to all, Me
AMAZING DEMO... Just that when i tried to bind my Logitech X56 H.O.T.A.S it seemed that is did not like way it was set up. I could control the plane but i know could be lot better if had a preset for Joysticks like the X56. Another item i could not seem to find was the CHAFF system to avoid the missiles coming at me sure you can only avoid so many but in the sim when you have 4 lots of enemy planes coming at you from different side hard to miss being hit when locked from behind & in front.
But i can tell from the demo that this is going to be a GREAT SIM when the VR is working has well OMG if you have like CO-OP with up to maybe 3 friends to make a 4 Plane squad so then its 2man team to look out for each other has well taking out the enemy targets because like on a ground assault you could have 1st 2 planes just ahead of other 2 for air to air or air to ground so that you clear the way for the other 2 that are carrying the bombs for the mission.
Cant wait for full release till then i have fun playing more of the demo hone my flying skill more ready for full sim
Ran on my 1080 card np with no lose of FPS & setting was between High & Ultra.
Holy moly. Love this. Like ace combat but without the cheese. Presentation is STELLAR.
My only gripe is that I like to play without the hud so I have to use my eyes and physical equipment to know whats up. It's annoying to have to cycle through the targets to get a missle lock on someone, only because I cant see who is selected on the hud.
Enjoyed the demo! great work!! I did get the odd freeze for like five seconds, i did drop down some of the graphic settings which helped but still got a occassional freeze. I only discovered this game today, so i dont know much about it. But i do hope there will be some strategy involved in terms of a campaign map and you choose order of attacks which can impact other missions if you do poorly or choose poorly etc. I couldnt work out how to fire chaff. Look forward to playing the demo some more and will look into this game some more. Thanks for the demo.
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I can't find the answer to this, but how do you dodge missles using information from that triangle that appears when a missle is locked to hit you? I see it changing shape, but I don't understand how to use its visual shape shifting to dodge enemy missles. Any help would be awesome. Thanks!
There are two techniques you can utilize in different situations. You should have already noticed that when the missiles get closer the triangle gets larger and the alarm rings faster. The alarm sound is the most important part of missile detection.and avoidance. If the alarm is sounding off rapidly you can choose to either use your flares or you can use maneuvering. If you choose the maneuvering you can use the shape of the screen to choose the direction of your maneuver. The best practice is to overcome the maximum turn rate of the oncoming missile. This can be done be analyzing the direction the missile is homing in from. Once you have determined the angle the missile is approaching, begin turning the same direction where the missile is coming from. This will force the missile to turn sharper to strike a hit. If the missile is continuing to home in closer even while using this evasive maneuver pop flares. This combo will defeat 99.99 of missiles coming your direction.
So you're basically saying "the game development is gonna stop, because I said so" do you at least know how silly that sound ?
@malospam you really should backspace your entire post.
Everybody gangsta till the railgun planes pull up on the last conquest mission
Beautifull game.
The thrusters Flames do not look very realistic.
In ace combat 7 for exemple, the first catch when throttling is the marvelous flame going out of the thrusters.
That is one of your first impressions of the flying plane.
Please dont let us down with Thrusters Flames animation.
Thank you.
whoever the developer is, im rooting for ya
Hi, having purchased a gaming laptop and a joystick this was one of the first new games I tried out, and my god is it beautiful and fun. If I could nitpick a bit, it might have been brought up before, but I think with the Viggen's long range anti defense missiles although it visually occupies the two inboard pylons, the HUD displays only one is available before reload. But still, very good game!
This would be a fun game if it could also run on lower spec pcs.
Incorrect. The game IS fun, period. It would be more fun for YOU if YOU upgraded your PC.
Your having an old PC does not make the game less fun. The game is what it is. You just need to upgrade. And hey, if you can't, I understand, I do, but it doesn't make the game any less fun because your computer is slow.
Food for thought.
good response
Plays and looks better than AC, very enjoyable demo. The sounds on target hits should show bit more scatter clutter, smaller bits n bobs flying round the main missile hit randomly. The ground, the hills, the rocks and the desert terrain look fantastic but other places round the World will have green flora, trees, military movements etc.
Campaign could be I am just wishing something like in 'Strike Commander' where the main pilot is part of a organisation, taking up big contracts from nations hiring to take out their bad guys, through precision strikes and a team of pilots fly to different governments round the World and do these missionary contracts.
SC was a old but ahead of its time game when it first came out in 1993. I still remember firing those aim-120 amraam.
Falcon 4 was another flight sim that came a long way to being great, spent tons of hours on that one.
You are on the right path from what I have seen by playing this demo today.
Whatever the campaign you have in mind I feel assured, will be just great and we shall enjoy playing this full game in the near future.
Many thanks for letting us try this upcoming game.
Honestly, this is vastly superior in every way to Ace Combat 7.
Control feels great. 1st person camera movement is great. Keyboard control of throttle is ambiguous, which may better be indicated with percent of output power, e.g. 70% for cruise throttle, 100% for full throttle, 120% for after burst, etc.
Personally I was hoping a game like Novalogic's F16, MiG29, F22 series, with well designed campaigns (need tactics), reasonable payloads (not just shooting hundreds of missiles), excellent aerodynamics, multiplayer modes, etc. This arcade air-shooting game is fine, but personally speaking I am not the target customer. Good luck!
This is like a better version of Ace Combat. The controll feels really good. The sound is realistic unlike Ace Combat which you can hear only music. Ace Combat's bot pilots talk like some middle school teenagers on the radio. While this game have some chatter on the radio, they keep it to the minimum just enough to tell the story. Make this a full game with campaign mode and it will be so much better than Ace Combat
I think the controls here and everything else is perfect. One thing I like also is that it has as its minimum difficulty level something reasonable that won't make you pull your hair out. Ace Combat 7 has made me want to throw my monitor across the room so many times. I don't know what game companies game by having an easy setting, as not all gamers are great at gaming or have all the time in the world to get to that point. I'm hoping your still developing this its a definite buy for me when the final version comes back.
I need high g turn like ace combat 7, the overall gameplay is impressed me i'm sure gonna buy this game when it came out.
Good phsics but need to see bf4 or bf3 jet control scheme
I want this game to be compatible with other languages.
good game
I'm getting "Fatal Error" message, I'm on Win 64bit.
Me too
Hey, This Looks like a AMAZING game, But I Cant Seem to Run it, It keeps giving me the Fatal error Crash (ive tryed the Unreal Engine) Its asking for a UnCooked Verison, Is there anyway to fix this? Thanks.
install UE4 Prerequisites
can we still be a backer? if not when can we purchase full copy?
I want to ask about the jet license, is this game going to rent those license like Ace Combat or make a fake name for the jet? I know it's not cheap, but what is the team planning to do? What different feature can we expect in this game that makes a difference compared to the Ace Combat? As the team that had said the game was inspired by Ace Combat, so of course, we are going to expected some similarity, but also should there be something new in this game? We know one of the hardest things is writing the main story for the game. The Ace Combat had created a parallel world, so what is the plan for the Project Wingman? We know there is a campaign, but we don't know what story going to be, is a story that happened in the real world, or the team decided to make a new one? There is more I would like to ask, but I don't want to put too much pressure on you guys.
Aircraft have vaguely similar names to their real-world counterparts. AFAIK this game also uses a "strange, real world" similar to Ace Combat.
I played the demo just now and I think its great. No matter what changes you make in the future, please keep as an option the simplicity of play that it is now. I hate when devs try to make it too realistic and then the fun is down. So all I am asking is that if you do make it more complicated to play in the future, just keep the way it is now as an option. If you keep that I'll have no problem purchasing the game!! Oh and by the way are you going to include VR support for Windows Mixed Reality Headsets like Samsung's HMD Odyssey.
I played the demo, I love the violins in the soundtrack. I see a lot of potential in this very arcade-ey game, and it looks like it will be a ton of fun to play through a campaign. I'm sorry I missed the kickstarter.
I only have 2 questions as a newcomer: "How much do I need to pay for this honestly entertaining project?" And secondly, "When can I pay you the money?"
More exciting than DCS world and feels more simulated than AC7
Love your cockpit perspective,HUD,UI,effect,and especially the gun's handle.
Looking forward to your complete version!
thanks
DCS is a damn simulator dude, don't compare it to it. Both great games just not comparable.
Every things are comparable. Arcade games are more exciting than simulator for most people.
Any chance to add FOV for We use 3 monitors?
Thank you and great job!
this is awesome! the game gave me so much fun and i have really enjoyed it! but i think the sound effects of some points in this game are little bit weak. like, when missile explodes or when aircraft get closer to each other or it explodes. it would be better to improve the sound effects more rich and realistic.
Maybe one day can add suport to ps4 stick?)
Anyway,wish good luck buddy
I signed up to say that this "Alpha" is more polished than most full release titles nowadays. How can I pre-order this game? Looking forward to VR support.
Excellent game thank you for creating this!
P.S. to everyone trying this demo: turn off music and put some headphones on.
thx. for your reply. got it sorted a couple of days ago. i am playing this more than my x-plane. graphics not bad. anyone if you can land and take off?
hello all. i am a xplane 10 user. then i came across this. very nice. one problem, my saitek 52 pro does not show up. any help much appreciated.
I had the same problem. Just go into controllers in settings tab and click the key you wish to map. Your controller will appear in the box with the assigned key. Hope this helps.
hello all. i am a xplane 10 user. then i came across this. very nice. one problem, my saitek 52 pro does not show up. any help much appreciated.
The Demo is nice, but is the project still alive? Last Update was in September 2018. Looking forward to the next release :)
Project is very much alive
His twitter is here, where he posts periodic updates
https://twitter.com/rb_dev2?lang=en
Major progress update is also on the kickstarter, dated Feb 3 :)
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rb-d2/project-wingman/posts/2392440
hello. just downloaded. exactly what i was looking for. need howto to bind saitek x52 pro. tx in advance. any help is much appreciated.
It is a wonderful game honestly, I love the atmosphere change when you dive from above the clouds to below them, it feels.... real, and the way it handles with mouse aim feels like you are playing war thunder except on a fa18 hornet. However i think the mouse aim could need some more improvements to make it easier to use, other than that well done.
Great! I will waiting for the campaign mode!
Hello. This game is getting better on every update. Keep up the outstanding work!
This really deserves; "Made with Love and Dedication".
Best regards to all,
Me
AMAZING DEMO... Just that when i tried to bind my Logitech X56 H.O.T.A.S it seemed that is did not like way it was set up. I could control the plane but i know could be lot better if had a preset for Joysticks like the X56. Another item i could not seem to find was the CHAFF system to avoid the missiles coming at me sure you can only avoid so many but in the sim when you have 4 lots of enemy planes coming at you from different side hard to miss being hit when locked from behind & in front.
But i can tell from the demo that this is going to be a GREAT SIM when the VR is working has well OMG if you have like CO-OP with up to maybe 3 friends to make a 4 Plane squad so then its 2man team to look out for each other has well taking out the enemy targets because like on a ground assault you could have 1st 2 planes just ahead of other 2 for air to air or air to ground so that you clear the way for the other 2 that are carrying the bombs for the mission.
Cant wait for full release till then i have fun playing more of the demo hone my flying skill more ready for full sim
Ran on my 1080 card np with no lose of FPS & setting was between High & Ultra.
GOOD LUCK WITH FULL RELEASE :)
Holy moly. Love this. Like ace combat but without the cheese. Presentation is STELLAR.
My only gripe is that I like to play without the hud so I have to use my eyes and physical equipment to know whats up. It's annoying to have to cycle through the targets to get a missle lock on someone, only because I cant see who is selected on the hud.
anyways, thanks a billion. This rocks.
Enjoyed the demo! great work!! I did get the odd freeze for like five seconds, i did drop down some of the graphic settings which helped but still got a occassional freeze. I only discovered this game today, so i dont know much about it. But i do hope there will be some strategy involved in terms of a campaign map and you choose order of attacks which can impact other missions if you do poorly or choose poorly etc. I couldnt work out how to fire chaff. Look forward to playing the demo some more and will look into this game some more. Thanks for the demo.