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I think i was following the fan guide. As far as I'm aware i've done everything to set it up, but can't progress new road. Have 1 heart with ste, talked to everyone about setting up the road, but it just never starts being built.  

Also I know, but like i said i've been playing since around version 0.12 or 0.14 before it had any art & back then I hadn't realized it was going to be mostly men. But i got pretty invested in the world & characters.

Nearly every other scene provides the ability to avoid sex/romance, so it feels a little weird that it seems like i Have to romance bernie to continue both the werewolf & main plot. Unless i missed something somehow.

I think that this will probably change later. This thing about Bareshade Expansion needing you to have X hearts with him. Hyao still is writting the and can always change something. Your point is valid and understandable.

About the New Road event, I don't know exactly gow to help you since I've done it just once. What I suggest you is: 

1 - Try gaining more hearts with Bernard.

2 - Bring Caleb back and finish the Full Moon storyline

3 - Start and finish the Bareshade Expansion

After those things done you'll be able to have a special day in Bareshade weekly, it's a fair.

With it being unlocked you'll be able to invite different NPCs not-Bareshade-citizes to party in. I THINK it will trigger you a new topic with Ste and I THINK he'll say something about it being better with a sortcut. Then, try talking with Logan about it.

I know it's not good to have this kind of interaction with them, but in the last case you can just skip the dialogues and get the heart.

I thought that a way to solve this thing of needing to have X hearts with X NPCs to progress in-game even though your character are not romantically atracted to them could change the hearts meaning to not just a platonic stuff but some kind of trust level. 

The scenes you'd get trying to get hearts with them when you MC is not into developing a relationship with the gender of the NPCs would be changed by some more deeply-bond friendship which they start to trust you and see you as a great friend.

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That's a good idea. Although i think the like system works fine for that already, no? But yeah that would be neat. As for the quest, i have 3 hearts with bernie, the town is fully upgraded, i've been to the fair multiple times, & caleb is here. I think i've seen most if not all of his events too.

Ste has no option to invite to the fair, but logan does. I don't have any hearts with logan & just did the new werewolves vs swamp monsters quest. Maybe inviting logan to the fair will trigger ste's path somehow? Honestly not sure. Very weird situation overall. Okay: weirdly enough, ste is here with his kids? I don't remember ever inviting him...

I think you can invite him just after your done the New Road. Hm.

Let me know something, you already invited him to Bareshade? Him and his kids? The whole scene on Harold's bar?

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Yes, he has been to bareshade, & I talked to both logan and bernard about setting up the road. The game is currently acting like the road was built whenever he comes to the fair (woman suggested kids playing) but the road has never been built. 

If i had to take a wild guess, maybe the game is built so you're not supposed to be able to invite him to bareshade until the town has been upgraded. Pretty sure i still hadn't romanced bernard when ste first came to town. So maybe the game wasnt sure what to do about that and never triggered it. 

That's a valid point to think of. 


From my point of view, Hyao has some of the plotlines very "lined up", which X thing, that is kinda important to the game, will just happen if you did this Y thing that is opptional, like getting hearts with Bernard/Logan.


As for now, I don't think there is something we can do about it. Maybe you could try to, as I said, do the Bernard route and get his hearts to progress in game or restart it.

But, if you allow me to say it, bringing Caleb back is not that much of progression. You don't need exactly to bring him back to unlock the others minors plotlines (Like the Payback with the alpha and the Swamp werewolves event).

I can tell you that is better if you did the Full Moon plotline following Logan's path, since I THINK it matches better with the story and also, the last event that was added can just be done if you did it all with him.

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I see. In that case I guess there's not really anything I can do besides restart the entire game and see if that works. I already went back & romanced bernard awhile back to get the bareshade upgrades as they were seemingly necessary to access a lot of the new content in some of the recent updates. 

Maybe I'll rescue logan this time since I've always gone after bernard instead, if i do restart the game that is.  But as far as i can tell, the werewolf plotline has no way to properly continue without rescuing Caleb first. Could be wrong on that i guess. 

On my opinion, Logan IS the best option to follow on the Full Moon event.

About the Caleb thing I can assure you that you DO NOT need to bring Caleb back to progress with the werewolves, the alpha and those things, since I have already done it and didn't rescued Caleb yet.

This could be probably because you choosed Bernard and not Logan. Logan relationship with the werewolves is a way more intense, it will lead it to a whole new level of events.

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Bit confused by what you mean,  Currently Logan is the "alpha" werewolf, but i saved him After bernard I think. But I did save both of them & couldn't get the plot to progress further than that after they were both back in town. The guide i was following implied rescuing caleb was necessary to finish both the werewolf plotline, and get the bareshade upgrades. 

But i also couldn't find any way to trigger his first scene without getting bernard to three hearts. I think this was all before the new werewolf events were added? Not sure.