even if you say no to ramoray she still takes hilda is there no way around that
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Saying NO takes you to a hidden ending (one of several in the game). In early days of development, that "ending" was planned to be a fully-fleshed-out path, but the plot of it was shifted to later in the game.
Most hidden endings (if not all) return to the moment of choice after playing out. Then they continue on, so players are not tossed to the Main Menu.
Yes, these "endings" are legit choices, but the direction of the game continues down the alternate choice.