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i don't think you can trigger the overwhelming strength event because the nameless is not completed not unless anyone else was able to trigger it 

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I was able to just fine, did you talk to Ogram before heading to the Area it is located?

no i did the final trial for him and that was pretty much it did I miss something ?

make sure this  quest is finished to this extent or the non-witch equivalent. Then go to Ogram after you are an accepted member of the clan or whatever. Walk into his hut, it should trigger and you should then go to the shrine of death in the wasteland

oh soo i have to reject the witches offer for mind protection 

Strange, for me it didn't work, like I did all the things that was necessary and I couldn't talk with Ogram...