Not sure if it's known but every sentence seems to have this stutter for about half a second during it's load. I am using old save data however. Not sure if it's struggling with that or something in the new UI.
Sounds like an issue with the compiled files, as I run into this only on the creation of a new update. I'll keep an eye on what might be causing it though. Which platform are you running it on?
I can look into it. When I was designing the UI and consulting with people on the server, a lot of people said it just wasn't used and I think only 2 people of those asked said they use it.
I'll likely need to find a space for it given things are already looking a bit cramped with buttons but I'll see what I can do.
Roswell won't be in actual danger unless you pick him as your partner, for all the other routes the password prompt there is more of a bonus and not a bug.
Yeah if I don't put the password in he goes into the forest anyway. Although I haven't played Roswell's route in a long time so it might have been fixed. 😅😅😂😂
Sorry if I reveal too much, but I just feel the need point out some stuff I noticed :(
So...I played through both Orlando and Dean's update, and they were both great. Dean's "investigations" are honestly seeming like they aren't going anywhere while they have all the answers. I'm not the writer, so I can't say that it should be obvious as to who it is, but the clues are really pointing towards Roswell. I'm still not buying whatever Dean said about the talk they had. I dunno why that even needed to be a secret. The thing that kinda sold it for me was the handshake thing...Dean LITERALLY says that [he thinks] Roswell was the one that initiated the handshake right? Also Dave questions the purpose of the handshake, Dean pretty much says that it was on a whim and only did it because he was asked to by Roswell, so when Dave says that he saw the sugar looking stuff on his left hand, the hand Dean said he shook his hand with which matches the picture in the gallery which only happens if you don't tell Dean to wash his hands, which everyone does except Dean, and Roswell going mushroom hunting an literally mentioning the nature and possible confusion of death caps right before Dean's death and the fact that literally after dinner that night they have that typical "have you seen [person]" "no I thought they were with you" dialogue and the letter at the end pretty much saying that he should've been more careful picking the mushrooms...like it literally all points to him. I might be slow just realizing this now, but I honestly just don't really pay much attention to Roswell whenever he comes on screen lmao.
Another thing I wanted to point out was something I noticed in both playthroughs...in Dean's route, he mentions that his ex was shorter than Dave, isn't a hyena, and we learn that his name is Rami. In Orlando's route, I forgot specifically where in the story he said it, but it was somewhere during the later days (maybe this update even) where he mentions, the stuff about a tanuki shapeshifter, then he mentions a tanuki named Rami who had the scars on him. He said those scars don't go away when shifting, so could they be the same person? I might be in over my head with this, but tanuki are usually pretty short, and with the fact that they both know a non-hyena named Rami seems a little suspicious. Again I might just be stretching things a lot, but that's just what I've noticed...I dunno if anyone else has noticed this but I just thought it was interesting to see🐊
Tinfoil hat time I guess. Hopefully not too rambling of a theory that might get destroyed in a month or less.
And spoiler warning? It's nothing too bad I think, but a warning anyway.
Tanuki and the possibility of a character being able to change shape was brought up before in maybe the day 15 update with Orlando and Dean both mentioning knowing someone that could change shape. It was confirmed by Orlando as being real in this one. I've had the theory of a shapeshifter being on team bad for a while but until now it didn't have any actual evidence beyond a couple quick lines of dialogue. But it would make sense there's more than just Jack and Dom in the woods. Some of the murders could be blamed on this person as well. It wouldn't really be unusual to see a friend walking around the mansion for instance, you might not even take notice of them closely enough to see it's not really them at all. If they know about the secret passages, well "Benson" coming and going through them wouldn't really raise any alarms. And I mean someone snuck in and stole stuff out of Oswins lab. Then we have Orlando's vision. "Dean" is seen laughing at Dave's body, either this is Dom wearing Dean's jacket or it's someone that just looks like him. At some point over the next in game week, Dave will leave the mansion and go into the woods again. I'm just so curious as to how that happens with him being too scared to even step outside alone right now. Just, if he were following a "friend" or someone he trusted... he could be led into danger really easily. Path C/D proved that much already. But then the password itself to get that vision may imply he'll go willingly? Of all the deaths his is the one I'm most... excited sounds bad to say because I like Dave, but I'm looking forward to that story bomb detonating.
And I really recommend paying more attention to Roswell. His route and character may be my second favorite overall (after Tyson) just because of his dialogue and interactions with Dave. Like with knowing about the shack in the woods before going into the forest. Sometimes it feels like he's either experiencing bleed over from other timelines (the shack/cabin seems to be the place he and Orlando will find Dave eventually) or just outright knows about it already. Also what happens on path C/D, he's the first for some reason, then his interaction with Thanatos on path B, how he acts in the latest update when Dave wants to check up with Oswin. I just find him fascinating and am really looking forward to his update next month.
As for the handshake/promise... Roswell drops some fairly dark hints about what's potentially going on with him. His focus on death and accepting it at such a young age, how he reacts to finding the medal on his route, Oswins research in general, what the greenhouse plants are mentioned to be useful for, the fact he doesn't really survive any ending, etc. So the promise he makes and Dean's reaction to the contents of that conversation, Roswell worries me to put it lightly.
But as of right now, I don't feel comfortable second guessing or being suspicious of any of the main cast.
Though... in fairness I may just not be a good judge of character since I trusted Jack at first.
What vision are you talking about with Orlando? If it’s a password vision I haven’t seen, then please don’t spoil it, but I don’t remember anything about that another Orlando vision besides when he saw Dave die. I don’t remember a Dom probably because I don’t play the C/D paths right now because uh…one timeline at a time I guess. I’ve touched on them before, and I’ve gotten a path E before, but that’s the limit of my exploration. If there’s more in the B/C/D paths, then I most likely haven’t seen it. And I will most definitely pay closer attention to Roswell. I haven’t even played his updated route….I think I’m on like day 13 or something🗿
Yeah I'm just referring to the vision he has of Dave's death and the extra detail he gives on day... 16 I think.
Dom so far hasn't made an appearance in the "main" timelines. Just briefly in C/D, and if you got E then you've seen him already but I don't know if he's outright named in every variation of those endings.
And yeah please do, I don't see Roswell get as much love as some of the others but I really like him and his route.
i like the game so far, but cant i just kill the rabbit? its clear hes the cause of all this. Like whats seriously stopping Dave from just getting rid of him? i got the bad ending with Dean, where he gets poisoned and dies, and everyone blamed Orlando. But it wasnt him, It was the rabbit wasnt it? Hes been skulking around the entire time, anticipating us since before we even got here hasnt he?
Yea i feel like somebody used the vault and knew he was coming so they told that rabbit to kill him (most likely because he can use the vault) .. but it might get to that point where we can make a option for that hopefully . Benson has been on the hunt but he's been avoiding sight (really good at it)so its definitely not that easy + having a bunch of amateurs outside looking for him would just be them walking right into death and honestly i really do not feel like Benson will win in a fight against him.
Try path C or D it answers some of thoes, but if that was the case why didn't jack know who dave was and let him get away? Jack's faster then dave and yet just decided to play with him rather than actually kill him.
Jacks just a stabby guy in the woods and when you meet him pretty much says he doesn't know who's in the house since he needs to know if benson is there or not before he will get close. We also don't know how he got on the mountain or when. If you go through path C or D it sorta shows poisons not really jacks style.
I really doubt it’s Jack since it seems he doesn’t really know the mansion well since he needs to “check out the place” and that would be a weird thing to say in my opinion if he knew where the Library is as well as opening the second vault to kill Oswin. I believe he’s just a random mercenary sent by Orlando’s father and considering the second voice on the radio he’s not the only one. Also Dave is the one marked for death according to Benson, probably due to what his father did which is supported by what Thanatos said. I think it’s more to do with Dave and David. Whether Memphis has a hand in it besides assassination and robbery is unknown to me at the moment but that’s what I got.
I appear to be missing a trauma image and I'm not entirely sure how since (as far as I know) I'm up to date with all of the public route/path combinations. The missing cg is the one below Dean and Ty fighting and to the left of Oswin in the chair
It's useful if someone wants to go back and try other combination of choices. I like to do it with After Class by Andy Peng since there is unique dialogue depending on how much the character likes you back. @Killer Chimera I doubt you need that many save slots either. Just use the preferences to skip text you have seen already. From what I am able to tell in PASSWORD right after making a choice the character will either express themselves positively or negatively. So if youre trying to get the highest affection points I think it will be easy to just go back a few dialogues and pick again. In fact Grizz doesnt really change much from the low affection dialogues so it's not like youre missing very much.
To begin with, I must say that I really like this visual novel, it immerses me in its story, forcing for a long time after reading to walk gloomier than a cloud and think about what is happening in this mansion, who is behind all these deaths and how they can be avoided.
I especially liked the main character, he is a very sweet, kind guy, and I really want to hug him and do everything to make him feel good.
...
But lately, I have not been able to follow the continuation of the story, because I have encountered an extremely nasty problem, because of which almost all the text in the novel looks distorted, and when I try to change something in the settings, it simply throws me out of the VN. I missed a couple of updates, but after installing the last one, I ran into this problem.
I would be very grateful if someone could tell me what I can do about this and if I can do anything at all.
Perhaps someone else had something like this, but I searched on various forums and did not see anything like it.
In fact, this problem has appeared in some other novels with the latest updates.
This has come up one time before, but thankfully one of the moderators on the server knew the workaround:
1. Open the game
2. Press Shift+G (This will open a Renpy debug menu)
3. Select ANGLE2 Renderer. Close and re-open the game and it should work.
If it doesn't work, then it's a GPU rendering issue and you'll need to update your graphics drivers. This is why it'd also be carrying across to other VNs assuming they're all made with Renpy.
Just in case your menu is screwy, here's one to guide you. You're looking for the third option in the top left set of options.
Tyson/Dave is the one I'm really invested in and is my favorite dynamic all around. The bond between them is just so rewarding to watch deepen, be it romantically or platonically. I just want them in each other's life. (After some much needed character development on both sides of course.) His is my favorite route, favorite character, best only pairing with Dave, makes me feel the widest range of emotions to boot. Just an all around flawed and tragic but likeable character. The only one besides Benson I safely classify under "protect at all costs".
A bit less serious, but I guess Jack/his knife. I really hope to get a chance, as a player, to introduce the two of them further at some point. Memphis/knife is another good one. All villains need to meet knife. Slowly. Very slowly.
Tyson easily takes first place, his development was satisfying, his charcter and the way he thinks and process things is interesting and amusing to see, and honestly I can't see Dave getting close to anyone as much as he did with Tyson, there is something special there
Orlando goes second, a total sweetheart, soft and precious ✨ a very affectionate and kind soul towards Dave, the drama of their "background" and how protective he is over Dave is endearing at the least, I imagine he is very fun to talk to as well , not to mention his other qualities(cooking/gaming/plush sleep partner/etc) he is a choice boyfriend/husband material 👀
Dean goes third, not only does his dorky flirting work like a charm, his plants and farming passion is charming , ... a home with plants, greenery , and a silver-tongued bear hubby? Sign me up.
I like how he cares for Dave's wellbeing and educates and guides him on "things" , how he looks out for his friends (Sal), his persistence and patience with Dave wins him many points too
The Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) is a trademarked psychological assessment tool that was devised by Katharine Cook Briggs and Isabel Briggs Myers. Having studied Jung’s theory of psychological types, they believed that his ideas were worthy of a wider audience and sought to refine them for practical purposes.
Theres a reason its not used as a profesional test. Its widely unreliable with huge overlap between the types giving diffrent results for the same person each time. It also can't be validated as it doesn't really measure anything.
16pesonalities.com is not actually a Myers-Briggs test, is a big 5 test masquareded as a MBTI, and from what i heard alot of people who take MBTI seriously aren't the biggest fans of 16personalities.com
Is there a list of all the questions I can try asking Oswin on day 8 when we first meet him? I already got a hand full of answers from him but I got mountains more of unanswered questions too. I wonder if there is anything more I could ask or if I should just give up or something...
One more thing... I just read how to get path B from the patreon page (apparently it is to let Hoss call out Benson's lie and admit there is another person in the mansion). Well I aint no snitch and I really dont feel like finding that part, loading it up, and going through that path manually to see if it is any different. Anyone did that though? Is there any big difference? I assume since C and D and E are death routes then B is also one? ((but no one died in it yet judging from the comments I read)). So what's the difference? Nothing yet but planned?
B is where Oswin is dead. Hasn't hit a terminal end like the other three, but there are somewhat significant changes without him around. You learn a bit more about Benson in his absence too.
grizz already answered this question some time ago in the comments, basically he said that this questions that you can ask to oswin are just more in the sense of world-building so you arent missing something in case you dont get all the questions you can ask him...
Dave - Paladin. Wants to do the 'right' thing and is considerably "Lawful Stupid"
Tyson - Rogue. Maybe Barbarian if only because there's not much going on upstairs but a whole lot of anger to work through, but stealing is the tipping point.
Roswell - Black Mage/Warlock. Any occult-oriented mage will do. Reasons should be obvious. Any high INT based class works well here.
Orlando - Healer. One of his costumes in beta (and reworked into the new sprites) hints towards this. He's pretty group mom anyway.
Dean - Druid. Nature boy through and through, but pretty resourceful beyond that.
Hoss - Bard. Reasons here should be obvious.
Sal - Fighter? He's hard to place given his physical abilities and personality sort of clash. But he's another protector-type role.
And of course, all this is how they stand now. How they shift post-story is more interesting but we're not at that point just yet for it to make sense :P
Dave i would say a cleric for his personality but with his role in the story an inquisitor would probably fit better.
Tysons a theif for obvious reasons.
Sal i would say a monk, quiet calm personality and willing to give people benefit of the doubt and lookout for people.
Hoss is a bard being an actor and all charisma based.
Deans a knight, lower background rising up to be somthing better (like joining the police force) but has a naive dutiful streak like when it comes to dave and dates it must be perfect and done properly. Can't get the princess till you kill the dragon.
Rosswel would probably be a mage.
Not sure about Orlando mabey a summoner or blue mage even a cleric with his fear of ghosts and more unholy things.
I'm usually really good at mysteries and puzzles but I'm always getting stumped with day 10. I cant save anyone because I don't even know the password for it. I tried everything. I even went through the whole novel twice. I don't know what I'm missing and I even tried to read between the lines. I swear I'm not overthinking this. Can someone tell me (without spoiling a lot) exactly which part of the scene/area I'm suppose to pay more attention to?
I looked through past comments and It got me even more stumped then before. I know I sound dense. Is there something I have to go back for? *Quickly saves day 8 for reference*
(Also thank you to Grizz for making it a puzzle type game with lots of mystery in a story. This is one of the most favorite games I like to come back to every so often)
I dont understand. Can you give me a more specific clue as to where i might find the right one? It was already hard figuring out the password to prevent benson from being dead. Does the password relate closer to Sal? or is it more toward near the vault. it doesnt need to be specific but i would like an idea to go off of instead of the same Quota "Dave's saying ' whats the worst possible outcome' " Im already racking my brain for this XD
Update: I've read the part where Dave said it but it doesnt say anything useful. Can someone message me to help me out a bit?
Re-Update: OMG I DID NOT EXPECT THAT TO BE AN ACTUAL PASSWORD FOR DAY 10. Im beyond shocked
Oh Tyson, such a little shit. I really like him, and I'm excited to see where this goes! Dean is also really nice and supportive. Great work with this so far, has fun 999/VLR vibes.
Read that Tyson's day 19 was put on hold for a little bit. That's okay. While I do like a few other routes, especially Deans, I just feel like Tyson's route is where I want to be invested in. He is like a puzzle that just fits naturally into Dave's life (and future). Or maybe he is just my type IDK :P
Keep up the good work. Your VN is always getting nice and/or long updates. Hope to see more of Tyson soon!
He doesn't know, but if you're on his route and have good affinity with him he does say he wants to go out with dave. So i would say at least bi but it would be more accurate to say unknown and that his facebook status would be set as 'complicated'.
Only ones used for testing. Trust that if you hit a point where it's asking for a password you either have been given the password already in some form or you're not meant to know it (yet).
Keep me posted how you find the game moving forward though!
Oh, so does that mean that Day 1, Day 2, and Day 3 do have working passwords, it's just that I have not been able to find them ?
Well, I guess I still have long ways to go. I have found every password from Day 4 onwards, and I had a great and enjoyable time doing so. Thank you for such an experience in your VN. Looking forward to Day 18. Keep up the awesome work ^-^
Day 1 and 3 have passwords but nothing in-text to give you an indication as to what they are. As they're really only there from me testing stuff and for me to keep testing stuff during development, I wouldn't worry about them so much as they'll be scrapped come full release.
Can someone help me find the third songin the music room and the CGs of the number 24 of memories and the number 12 of trauma, please, I was stressed looking for them.
I finally found out why the third song in the music room wasn't unlocking and it's because it was pointing to the wrong file. Expect it to be fixed as of the next Patron update but so long as you've heard it it'll auto-unlock when the update ticks down to public.
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Is still cant get, tha heck i have to ask from Oswin, that moment blows my mind, i tried everything and still got nothing, someone have any clues?
Nothing story critical. Just some small things that fill out lore and easter eggs.
A question before starting to play, will you have a password every day of the game?
no there are only passwords when you encounter a bad ending.
Does anyone know if it's possible to move my save files from the PC version to android version?
Not sure if it's known but every sentence seems to have this stutter for about half a second during it's load. I am using old save data however. Not sure if it's struggling with that or something in the new UI.
Sounds like an issue with the compiled files, as I run into this only on the creation of a new update. I'll keep an eye on what might be causing it though. Which platform are you running it on?
Hi Grizz I have a question for you. Is it possible to put the Auto feature back on? I like having it, feels like i'm watching a movie. 😎😎🙂🙂
I can look into it. When I was designing the UI and consulting with people on the server, a lot of people said it just wasn't used and I think only 2 people of those asked said they use it.
I'll likely need to find a space for it given things are already looking a bit cramped with buttons but I'll see what I can do.
If you can't that's fine, I at least enjoyed it while it was available. Not that it's not any worse off mind you. 😃😃
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Has anyone noticed that Roswell doesn't die if you don't get the password right? Or is that a bug in the game?
what password? if you mean day 17s it orlando not roswell and the event doesn't happen till day 19.
still dies for me if i ignore it.
Roswell won't be in actual danger unless you pick him as your partner, for all the other routes the password prompt there is more of a bonus and not a bug.
Yeah if I don't put the password in he goes into the forest anyway. Although I haven't played Roswell's route in a long time so it might have been fixed. 😅😅😂😂
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Sorry if I reveal too much, but I just feel the need point out some stuff I noticed :(
So...I played through both Orlando and Dean's update, and they were both great. Dean's "investigations" are honestly seeming like they aren't going anywhere while they have all the answers. I'm not the writer, so I can't say that it should be obvious as to who it is, but the clues are really pointing towards Roswell. I'm still not buying whatever Dean said about the talk they had. I dunno why that even needed to be a secret. The thing that kinda sold it for me was the handshake thing...Dean LITERALLY says that [he thinks] Roswell was the one that initiated the handshake right? Also Dave questions the purpose of the handshake, Dean pretty much says that it was on a whim and only did it because he was asked to by Roswell, so when Dave says that he saw the sugar looking stuff on his left hand, the hand Dean said he shook his hand with which matches the picture in the gallery which only happens if you don't tell Dean to wash his hands, which everyone does except Dean, and Roswell going mushroom hunting an literally mentioning the nature and possible confusion of death caps right before Dean's death and the fact that literally after dinner that night they have that typical "have you seen [person]" "no I thought they were with you" dialogue and the letter at the end pretty much saying that he should've been more careful picking the mushrooms...like it literally all points to him. I might be slow just realizing this now, but I honestly just don't really pay much attention to Roswell whenever he comes on screen lmao.
Another thing I wanted to point out was something I noticed in both playthroughs...in Dean's route, he mentions that his ex was shorter than Dave, isn't a hyena, and we learn that his name is Rami. In Orlando's route, I forgot specifically where in the story he said it, but it was somewhere during the later days (maybe this update even) where he mentions, the stuff about a tanuki shapeshifter, then he mentions a tanuki named Rami who had the scars on him. He said those scars don't go away when shifting, so could they be the same person? I might be in over my head with this, but tanuki are usually pretty short, and with the fact that they both know a non-hyena named Rami seems a little suspicious. Again I might just be stretching things a lot, but that's just what I've noticed...I dunno if anyone else has noticed this but I just thought it was interesting to see🐊
Tinfoil hat time I guess. Hopefully not too rambling of a theory that might get destroyed in a month or less.
And spoiler warning? It's nothing too bad I think, but a warning anyway.
Tanuki and the possibility of a character being able to change shape was brought up before in maybe the day 15 update with Orlando and Dean both mentioning knowing someone that could change shape. It was confirmed by Orlando as being real in this one. I've had the theory of a shapeshifter being on team bad for a while but until now it didn't have any actual evidence beyond a couple quick lines of dialogue. But it would make sense there's more than just Jack and Dom in the woods.
Some of the murders could be blamed on this person as well. It wouldn't really be unusual to see a friend walking around the mansion for instance, you might not even take notice of them closely enough to see it's not really them at all. If they know about the secret passages, well "Benson" coming and going through them wouldn't really raise any alarms. And I mean someone snuck in and stole stuff out of Oswins lab.
Then we have Orlando's vision. "Dean" is seen laughing at Dave's body, either this is Dom wearing Dean's jacket or it's someone that just looks like him.
At some point over the next in game week, Dave will leave the mansion and go into the woods again. I'm just so curious as to how that happens with him being too scared to even step outside alone right now. Just, if he were following a "friend" or someone he trusted... he could be led into danger really easily. Path C/D proved that much already. But then the password itself to get that vision may imply he'll go willingly? Of all the deaths his is the one I'm most... excited sounds bad to say because I like Dave, but I'm looking forward to that story bomb detonating.
And I really recommend paying more attention to Roswell. His route and character may be my second favorite overall (after Tyson) just because of his dialogue and interactions with Dave. Like with knowing about the shack in the woods before going into the forest. Sometimes it feels like he's either experiencing bleed over from other timelines (the shack/cabin seems to be the place he and Orlando will find Dave eventually) or just outright knows about it already. Also what happens on path C/D, he's the first for some reason, then his interaction with Thanatos on path B, how he acts in the latest update when Dave wants to check up with Oswin. I just find him fascinating and am really looking forward to his update next month.
As for the handshake/promise... Roswell drops some fairly dark hints about what's potentially going on with him. His focus on death and accepting it at such a young age, how he reacts to finding the medal on his route, Oswins research in general, what the greenhouse plants are mentioned to be useful for, the fact he doesn't really survive any ending, etc. So the promise he makes and Dean's reaction to the contents of that conversation, Roswell worries me to put it lightly.
But as of right now, I don't feel comfortable second guessing or being suspicious of any of the main cast.
Though... in fairness I may just not be a good judge of character since I trusted Jack at first.
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What vision are you talking about with Orlando? If it’s a password vision I haven’t seen, then please don’t spoil it, but I don’t remember anything about that another Orlando vision besides when he saw Dave die. I don’t remember a Dom probably because I don’t play the C/D paths right now because uh…one timeline at a time I guess. I’ve touched on them before, and I’ve gotten a path E before, but that’s the limit of my exploration. If there’s more in the B/C/D paths, then I most likely haven’t seen it. And I will most definitely pay closer attention to Roswell. I haven’t even played his updated route….I think I’m on like day 13 or something🗿
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Yeah I'm just referring to the vision he has of Dave's death and the extra detail he gives on day... 16 I think.
Dom so far hasn't made an appearance in the "main" timelines. Just briefly in C/D, and if you got E then you've seen him already but I don't know if he's outright named in every variation of those endings.
And yeah please do, I don't see Roswell get as much love as some of the others but I really like him and his route.
OMG I love this game !!
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i like the game so far, but cant i just kill the rabbit? its clear hes the cause of all this. Like whats seriously stopping Dave from just getting rid of him? i got the bad ending with Dean, where he gets poisoned and dies, and everyone blamed Orlando. But it wasnt him, It was the rabbit wasnt it? Hes been skulking around the entire time, anticipating us since before we even got here hasnt he?
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Yea i feel like somebody used the vault and knew he was coming so they told that rabbit to kill him (most likely because he can use the vault) .. but it might get to that point where we can make a option for that hopefully .
Benson has been on the hunt but he's been avoiding sight (really good at it)so its definitely not that easy + having a bunch of amateurs outside looking for him would just be them walking right into death and honestly i really do not feel like Benson will win in a fight against him.
Try path C or D it answers some of thoes, but if that was the case why didn't jack know who dave was and let him get away? Jack's faster then dave and yet just decided to play with him rather than actually kill him.
Oh, the butler? pfft. The rabbit is just some loser with a knife, Killing him would be a cakewalk for someone like Benson.
I don't remember anything about him getting blamed...was that just added or something?
He wasn't blamed for anyone other than tyson when he went into the woods.
Jacks just a stabby guy in the woods and when you meet him pretty much says he doesn't know who's in the house since he needs to know if benson is there or not before he will get close. We also don't know how he got on the mountain or when. If you go through path C or D it sorta shows poisons not really jacks style.
Hes lying.
Spoilers below please don’t read unless you’re willing.
I really doubt it’s Jack since it seems he doesn’t really know the mansion well since he needs to “check out the place” and that would be a weird thing to say in my opinion if he knew where the Library is as well as opening the second vault to kill Oswin. I believe he’s just a random mercenary sent by Orlando’s father and considering the second voice on the radio he’s not the only one. Also Dave is the one marked for death according to Benson, probably due to what his father did which is supported by what Thanatos said. I think it’s more to do with Dave and David. Whether Memphis has a hand in it besides assassination and robbery is unknown to me at the moment but that’s what I got.
I appear to be missing a trauma image and I'm not entirely sure how since (as far as I know) I'm up to date with all of the public route/path combinations. The missing cg is the one below Dean and Ty fighting and to the left of Oswin in the chair
day 17 isn't showing in the gallery for me so it's probably that
There are 20 saves per page, including autosaves and quick saves you have 220 slots.
You don't need more slots than that.
It's useful if someone wants to go back and try other combination of choices. I like to do it with After Class by Andy Peng since there is unique dialogue depending on how much the character likes you back. @Killer Chimera I doubt you need that many save slots either. Just use the preferences to skip text you have seen already. From what I am able to tell in PASSWORD right after making a choice the character will either express themselves positively or negatively. So if youre trying to get the highest affection points I think it will be easy to just go back a few dialogues and pick again. In fact Grizz doesnt really change much from the low affection dialogues so it's not like youre missing very much.
You should be able to scroll down.
Unless I'm missing something the mobile version doesn't scroll down. So it's just the 3 per page.
It's not been a problem so far, for me at least. I recommend just being more selective with saves for now or saving over stuff you don't need anymore.
HOLY
I'll try and have them ready for the release of day 19.
New update day 18 dean & orlando - https://www.patreon.com/posts/public-demo-a0-1-56145068
Hello everybody.
To begin with, I must say that I really like this visual novel, it immerses me in its story, forcing for a long time after reading to walk gloomier than a cloud and think about what is happening in this mansion, who is behind all these deaths and how they can be avoided.
I especially liked the main character, he is a very sweet, kind guy, and I really want to hug him and do everything to make him feel good.
...
But lately, I have not been able to follow the continuation of the story, because I have encountered an extremely nasty problem, because of which almost all the text in the novel looks distorted, and when I try to change something in the settings, it simply throws me out of the VN. I missed a couple of updates, but after installing the last one, I ran into this problem.
I would be very grateful if someone could tell me what I can do about this and if I can do anything at all.
Perhaps someone else had something like this, but I searched on various forums and did not see anything like it.
In fact, this problem has appeared in some other novels with the latest updates.
This has come up one time before, but thankfully one of the moderators on the server knew the workaround:
1. Open the game
2. Press Shift+G (This will open a Renpy debug menu)
3. Select ANGLE2 Renderer. Close and re-open the game and it should work.
If it doesn't work, then it's a GPU rendering issue and you'll need to update your graphics drivers. This is why it'd also be carrying across to other VNs assuming they're all made with Renpy.
Just in case your menu is screwy, here's one to guide you. You're looking for the third option in the top left set of options.
You can't even imagine how grateful I am to you.
You just... saved me.
Thank you.
Here's another question: What's everyone's favorite ship?? 🤔🤔
Tyson. He's well writen and fleshed out its really easy to get attached to him.
Last patreon poll (poll was in june) for which route to focus on can probably show how some people feel. Total votes 304.
1. Tyson - 100 votes
2. Dean - 62 votes
3. Orlando - 44 votes
4. Sal - 39 votes
5. Hoss - 37 votes
6. Roswell - 22 votes
Dang, Grizz you hit a gold mine with Tyson. Good job!!! 😎😎😃😃
This feels criminal to look at
Tyson/Dave is the one I'm really invested in and is my favorite dynamic all around. The bond between them is just so rewarding to watch deepen, be it romantically or platonically. I just want them in each other's life. (After some much needed character development on both sides of course.)
His is my favorite route, favorite character,
bestonlypairing with Dave, makes me feel the widest range of emotions to boot. Just an all around flawed and tragic but likeable character.The only one besides Benson I safely classify under "protect at all costs".
A bit less serious, but I guess Jack/his knife. I really hope to get a chance, as a player, to introduce the two of them further at some point. Memphis/knife is another good one. All villains need to meet knife. Slowly. Very slowly.
(SPOILERS )
Tyson easily takes first place, his development was satisfying, his charcter and the way he thinks and process things is interesting and amusing to see, and honestly I can't see Dave getting close to anyone as much as he did with Tyson, there is something special there
Orlando goes second, a total sweetheart, soft and precious ✨ a very affectionate and kind soul towards Dave, the drama of their "background" and how protective he is over Dave is endearing at the least, I imagine he is very fun to talk to as well , not to mention his other qualities(cooking/gaming/plush sleep partner/etc) he is a choice boyfriend/husband material 👀
Dean goes third, not only does his dorky flirting work like a charm, his plants and farming passion is charming , ... a home with plants, greenery , and a silver-tongued bear hubby? Sign me up.
I like how he cares for Dave's wellbeing and educates and guides him on "things" , how he looks out for his friends (Sal), his persistence and patience with Dave wins him many points too
I like to imagine there's a timeline where Oswin and Liam the bus driver hookup.
I HATE to ask but because I'm stupid, I'm having trouble with the day 17 password.
Where is it?
I had trouble with it too. Read the conversations you have with Tyson and Orlando that should help.
Okay and do they both say the specific word or is it hinting to a word to describe them?
It's both actually.
Okay so I tried both words of Monster and Feral and Thanatos said that I was close, this is so cunfusinggggg.
You're getting close...
Hi Grizz I was wondering: will we see Dave's mom at one point? I am curious what see looks like. She sounds cool.😎😎
I've only drawn her in fan art so... maybe in a CG at best?
I'll take it. 😃😃😎😎
Can someone help me, is there a code for the vault on day 11 of Tyson's route.
There is, it's given directly to you on Day 11.
Wait I thought that was Day 10? Welp time to replay. 😂😂😂
Yeah I'm stupid and was like oh, I find out all these hardish codes and this one was right here in front of me
What/who will the next update be over? Just curious😮💨
Next public update will be Dean and Orlando.
Oh alright...thanks!
https://www.personality-database.com/subcategory/12572/password-gaming-mbti-pers..
What is this? I don't get it. 🤔🤔
The Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) is a trademarked psychological assessment tool that was devised by Katharine Cook Briggs and Isabel Briggs Myers. Having studied Jung’s theory of psychological types, they believed that his ideas were worthy of a wider audience and sought to refine them for practical purposes.
https://mbti-notes.tumblr.com/
check this out if you wanna learn more
Here's an easier read just use the 'personality type' button - https://www.16personalities.com/isfj-personality
Theres a reason its not used as a profesional test. Its widely unreliable with huge overlap between the types giving diffrent results for the same person each time. It also can't be validated as it doesn't really measure anything.
Its considered nothing but pseudoscience.
16pesonalities.com is not actually a Myers-Briggs test, is a big 5 test masquareded as a MBTI, and from what i heard alot of people who take MBTI seriously aren't the biggest fans of 16personalities.com
here for more on the big 5 https://www.truity.com/book/big-five-personality-model
here on why self-report questionnaires are imperfect https://mbti-notes.tumblr.com/basics#tests
Is there a list of all the questions I can try asking Oswin on day 8 when we first meet him? I already got a hand full of answers from him but I got mountains more of unanswered questions too. I wonder if there is anything more I could ask or if I should just give up or something...
One more thing... I just read how to get path B from the patreon page (apparently it is to let Hoss call out Benson's lie and admit there is another person in the mansion). Well I aint no snitch and I really dont feel like finding that part, loading it up, and going through that path manually to see if it is any different. Anyone did that though? Is there any big difference? I assume since C and D and E are death routes then B is also one? ((but no one died in it yet judging from the comments I read)). So what's the difference? Nothing yet but planned?
B is where Oswin is dead. Hasn't hit a terminal end like the other three, but there are somewhat significant changes without him around. You learn a bit more about Benson in his absence too.
grizz already answered this question some time ago in the comments, basically he said that this questions that you can ask to oswin are just more in the sense of world-building so you arent missing something in case you dont get all the questions you can ask him...
Here's a question: What classes would everyone be if this was a RPG? 🤔🤔
I bet Dean would be a bard, so he could seduce everyone 🤣
Oh my gosh I can totally see that. 😂😂😂
Sal's definitly an axe-carrying barbarian -iykwim
hahaha ;-;
I also think that Dave should be a healer... makes the most sense imo but maybe its 'cause I sometimes play as a healer lol
Grizz are you a RPG player? What would you choose for our lovely cast of characters?
I am! Question is, are we talking as they are now, or after the story is done?
*Orlando's shocked face*
That is a good question. Hmmm... As they are now.
As they are now? Sure. I'd say something like...
Dave - Paladin. Wants to do the 'right' thing and is considerably "Lawful Stupid"
Tyson - Rogue. Maybe Barbarian if only because there's not much going on upstairs but a whole lot of anger to work through, but stealing is the tipping point.
Roswell - Black Mage/Warlock. Any occult-oriented mage will do. Reasons should be obvious. Any high INT based class works well here.
Orlando - Healer. One of his costumes in beta (and reworked into the new sprites) hints towards this. He's pretty group mom anyway.
Dean - Druid. Nature boy through and through, but pretty resourceful beyond that.
Hoss - Bard. Reasons here should be obvious.
Sal - Fighter? He's hard to place given his physical abilities and personality sort of clash. But he's another protector-type role.
And of course, all this is how they stand now. How they shift post-story is more interesting but we're not at that point just yet for it to make sense :P
Then I will wait until the end. Maybe our choices will change? 🤔🤔
Dave i would say a cleric for his personality but with his role in the story an inquisitor would probably fit better.
Tysons a theif for obvious reasons.
Sal i would say a monk, quiet calm personality and willing to give people benefit of the doubt and lookout for people.
Hoss is a bard being an actor and all charisma based.
Deans a knight, lower background rising up to be somthing better (like joining the police force) but has a naive dutiful streak like when it comes to dave and dates it must be perfect and done properly. Can't get the princess till you kill the dragon.
Rosswel would probably be a mage.
Not sure about Orlando mabey a summoner or blue mage even a cleric with his fear of ghosts and more unholy things.
Roswell really gives off a mage vibe, does he not? 😂😂
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And I want my brother back"Okay someone please help me out here.
I'm usually really good at mysteries and puzzles but I'm always getting stumped with day 10. I cant save anyone because I don't even know the password for it. I tried everything. I even went through the whole novel twice. I don't know what I'm missing and I even tried to read between the lines. I swear I'm not overthinking this. Can someone tell me (without spoiling a lot) exactly which part of the scene/area I'm suppose to pay more attention to?
I looked through past comments and It got me even more stumped then before. I know I sound dense. Is there something I have to go back for? *Quickly saves day 8 for reference*
(Also thank you to Grizz for making it a puzzle type game with lots of mystery in a story. This is one of the most favorite games I like to come back to every so often)
Its said during day 10, best hint is what dave thinks at the vault 'what is the worst possible outcome'
Also failing this, also shortly after everything goes wrong, too.
I dont understand. Can you give me a more specific clue as to where i might find the right one? It was already hard figuring out the password to prevent benson from being dead. Does the password relate closer to Sal? or is it more toward near the vault. it doesnt need to be specific but i would like an idea to go off of instead of the same Quota "Dave's saying ' whats the worst possible outcome' " Im already racking my brain for this XD
Update: I've read the part where Dave said it but it doesnt say anything useful. Can someone message me to help me out a bit?
Re-Update: OMG I DID NOT EXPECT THAT TO BE AN ACTUAL PASSWORD FOR DAY 10. Im beyond shocked
Oh Tyson, such a little shit. I really like him, and I'm excited to see where this goes! Dean is also really nice and supportive. Great work with this so far, has fun 999/VLR vibes.
This VN is amazing, and Tyson route is my favourite
Tyson: Dean told me to tell you to make yourself ready tomorrow for a thing and walked away looking pleased with himself
Oh no
Out of curiosity what exactly Do you think that line implied?
Orlando kind of spoils what it's going to be in the new update.
Which if it's the same for every route, there might be an awkward conversation ahead depending on what color the save file is.
Read that Tyson's day 19 was put on hold for a little bit. That's okay. While I do like a few other routes, especially Deans, I just feel like Tyson's route is where I want to be invested in. He is like a puzzle that just fits naturally into Dave's life (and future). Or maybe he is just my type IDK :P
Keep up the good work. Your VN is always getting nice and/or long updates. Hope to see more of Tyson soon!
como fazer o final bom(╥﹏╥)
When you go to the vault it lets you know it was said when you was dealing with the tyson, orlando argument so look there.
Before playing: let's hope I don't cry
Update: teared up a little at the end
Thanks for the update!! I'm really liking how the story is coming together and how we get to understand Dave a little more!🐺
i think my saves broke ;-;
all of them are saves from 2019..
(had up to like 60 saves)
Edit: There was luckily one auto save from december 2020 thankfully. (tyson route)
I can't believe it's been that long since I've gotten into visual novels holy crap
how do i get the 3th and the last musics from the soundtrack?
From a comment a bit further down, the 3rd track is bugged and can't unlock right now, but will be fixed with the next public update.
The last track I unlocked on path C/D I believe.
can you be more specific i already finished paths C/D
I got it on Day 14 path C, when Dave goes into the mill
thank you
i got it
omg its a tyson update
Quick question is Tyson demisexual or pansexual, since he keeps denying being gay or bi. No matter what I still love his character
He doesn't know, but if you're on his route and have good affinity with him he does say he wants to go out with dave. So i would say at least bi but it would be more accurate to say unknown and that his facebook status would be set as 'complicated'.
Affectionately, on the server he's referred to as "Davesexual". But realistically he's Gay/Demi. Just really only in Dave's corner.
So he's gay for Dave and Dave only thats cute omg.
new builds out, tyson day 18
https://www.patreon.com/posts/public-demo-a0-2-54903589
Are there any working passwords on Day 1 and 2 ? I just cannot find any hints regarding this.
Edit : And also Day 3 ? I spent hours trying random words but to no avail.
Only ones used for testing. Trust that if you hit a point where it's asking for a password you either have been given the password already in some form or you're not meant to know it (yet).
Keep me posted how you find the game moving forward though!
Oh, so does that mean that Day 1, Day 2, and Day 3 do have working passwords, it's just that I have not been able to find them ?
Well, I guess I still have long ways to go. I have found every password from Day 4 onwards, and I had a great and enjoyable time doing so. Thank you for such an experience in your VN. Looking forward to Day 18. Keep up the awesome work ^-^
Thanks!
Day 1 and 3 have passwords but nothing in-text to give you an indication as to what they are. As they're really only there from me testing stuff and for me to keep testing stuff during development, I wouldn't worry about them so much as they'll be scrapped come full release.
Grizz you had me guessing. 😂😂😂
im having trouble with the password on day 10
Best hint is what dave thinks at the vault ''what's the worst possible outcome?''
Can someone help me find the third song in the music room and the CGs of the number 24 of memories and the number 12 of trauma, please, I was stressed looking for them.
24 is roswells route with high affinity, 12 i think is path D but with 'no forgiveness' (wont say more about the needed choice because spoilers).
Thanks friend, with that it is enough to find the CG that I am missing.
I finally found out why the third song in the music room wasn't unlocking and it's because it was pointing to the wrong file. Expect it to be fixed as of the next Patron update but so long as you've heard it it'll auto-unlock when the update ticks down to public.
Ah, now it all makes sense, it's good to know what the mistake was. Thanks
Dear creators, this game is amazing, one of the best if not the best VN I've played, alongside echo and adastra. Kudos.
Its a one man project Grizz does it all on his own. Well other than music, he shares that with Civ valian.