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I agree with you. The reason many people installed this game because dev said that Mc would be only man with women, especially for person who like to achieve all the scenes, I DEFINTITLY not to see any bad scenes . Maybe not end up with all the girls but a character is raped? Hell nah

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I guess we can't trust devs who like NTR and want to sell a game without that kind of content; most of these devs end up adding their cuck fetishes.

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hey, i join you on not liking it and wanting to complete all scenes, i'm the same here

also, maybe he didn't wanted it initially, but he often asked what the community wanted, he didn't broke the non-NTR promise since when it happen,  but this isn't NTR anymore as per proper definition, and for being the only male involved, well others doesn't come and compete with you during your run, if it's only for bad ending, furthermore changing opinion because the community ask for it ain't a bad thing for a dev either, so long as it's controleld

thought, bad endings like that make sense, and as explained by the NTR definitions, so long as it doesn't happen when you try to have a relation with your character, this isn't NTR

also, from what i remember, you're kind raping Noriko early too, but anyway let's pas this detail

as much as i don't like extremes scenes and NTR, i'm not agains't the idea of having them as a bad ending, 'cause the game isn't heavily focused on it with only 1/2 vannilla scenes if you do a safe run, nor forced into you in the story

the fact that they are bad ending is good, 'cause first, it add weight to choices and consequences, and second for people who wanted it, there will still be a bit of it, but that doesn't mean the game resolve arount it man, it's not like you're being cuck if you play the game without reaching a bad ending, also in some part of the story, before he did that, i thought that the plot armor was a bit too strong/obvious considering the otherwise realistic developments of things

i don't like thoses kind of scenes, but adding them as bad ending add in fact, deepth to the lore/chocies consequences, and that' the part i like, it make you want to avoid them and think about your choices

so i'm kind of agains't an indicator of when you're picking a wrong choice, cause you see wich one's the bad without thinking, but i can understand why it's planned, moreover it's not just a single bad choice, but you have to pick a bad choice about 3 times i read in another post, or it was planned like that at least

as long as thoses scenes remain bad endings and not in a ecxcessive amount, i don't mind much, if they are bad ending, it's obvious that consequences aren't good, it would'n be a bad ending otherwise, it's not like other peoples will steal yours LI during the run, since a bad endings are end of runs anyway

 i won't spit on the game for a tiny part of it when the rest is actually pretty good, especially the story for a H game, it's rare

so long as they don't focus on grutesque scenes and add/focus NTR (real one, not the missuesd ones, like lot of people think it is) and that remain as a small part of the game moreover in bad ending instead of real story development, i'm fine with it, i can let it slide, it's not forced upon us, and as bad ending it even incitate us to avoid it