I've never heard a Burning Wheel player say "Too Crunchy" so I figured I should check out Ars Magica. I after all love paperwork. I've been playing Ars Magica in no small part because of this silly little game. It's remarkably well written, presented, and structurally sound. I doubt I'll convince my group to try Arse Magica but who knows what the future holds. It got me into a wonderful game and that's commendable enough!