Yeah, I can only use Heir kids via the mod or the slaves in dungeons/market as fodder unless I dungeon dive and get shrine rng to convert from subordinate to slave. But by that point I've already put time into the subordinates lmao. So for a future reference to anybody else playing, I'd suggest looking for the best possible one during town recruitment because whether you use succubus/incubus or attempt tp recruit they'll be subordinates. So I guess either look for all good/greats on most stats and hope rngesus has them with good skills (I personally like collecting only virgins unless it's story scripted they lose it, like Ana/Daisy and maybe Aire, unsure if she's a virgin on lich skull quest completion but funnily enough no matter how many times you have sex with cali after the william and the sword heirloom quest she remains a virgin even if you order her to serve you unless you actively take her virginity via date/sex option or rape her upon first encountering her) But yeah, I digress, I'm pretty sure it's a newly scripted update to prevent early overpowered characters. Since I use to sweep dungeons with my first 6 with max stats. Wish I could buy mithril lmao. Can't make my own mithril mine at home until I reach the dwarven lands. So I'm stuck using iron or steel nd that makes Anastacia's post recruitment rebel fort quest nigh unbeatable since it's a double consecutive battle with the second one having multiple enemies dealing huge damage. I'm rambling. Anyway, basically, pray to rngesus you get good characters from recruiting because they'll be perma subs if you recruit.