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Gripping experience. Spoilertown below.

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Made it to the end credits but somehow I still feel like I missed something. Are they a fakeout? (Some other people were mentioning a 98th entry and I have 97 with no other clues! It seems people also found @’s name but I have no clue how.)

I don’t understand the rules of the curse. (Is that what it is?)

The broad strokes seem to be: Remember the previous target, then after some time you’ll hear a thunderclap, die, and be forgotten.

(I had and continue to have a hard time with the time-delay aspect. I think it must be a part of it, otherwise @’s writing in 00-final-note doesn’t make sense, he wouldn’t be on death’s door — and that’s as close to a definitive answer as I can find. Time-delay: Is that why Eve died the way she did, not because of Edmund’s singing but because it took a bit for her remembering Thornton to kick in? Likewise for Damian, only dying in his sleep and not right after he remembered Helen?)

Other people’s memories change to fill the void, so Martha says she had a wedding for herself, that sort of ridiculous confabulation. BUT if someone does remember the last person, they die and the curse goes on? I can’t square that with all of the deaths.

Rupert remembers Amelia after hearing the player piano perform a piece, says her name, walks to the study, wonders aloud about asking Oswald about Amelia, dies. (Do you have to say the previous person’s name? Is it just that time delay?)

Thornton moves Rupert’s body and remembers that he’s dead, but the thunderclap only sounds for him when he’s muttering to himself in the kitchen. (He doesn’t mention Rupert by name immediately before death, only saying ‘He’s really dead…’. Otherwise, he just says “Mr. Galley” to when he talks to John in the Study.

Skipping forward, the other confusing part are the 3 final deaths.

Annie shoots herself and a thunderclap sounds at the same time. She does mention Oswald to John, but only by pronoun - before then, she says his name to himself, reading it out from the list Victoria made. Suicide didn’t work to stop the curse… Why?

Then John doesn’t remember Annie and doesn’t read the paper with her name on it, saving himself. The last time he said her name was before the combination gunshot/thunderclap, so he’s safe from the curse from that point. (Is he?)

Katherine eventually dies at home, some time after Annie. I guess because she’s the last person to… say Annie’s name? I don’t understand how John’s trick worked.

John dies, he has to just to square with the bodycount. All of the numbered/lettered people are dead bodies. But he doesn’t die by curse as he is pointedly omitted from @’s final list and we don’t hear a thunderclap on the recording. He must be the middle-aged man on the steps mentioned in the intro - and if he really didn’t die by curse, he must be the only publicly-identified victim mentioned in the intro.

But. I don’t get it! What does @ figure out? He knows the names of everyone hit by the curse, so he’s next in line after Katherine, right? Why does the last line in the final message say “God I hope this works” — he died, right?


Other side-mysteries:

I was convinced that there had to be a scene in the Garden mentioned by Oswald but seemingly no dice. I guess it isn’t bolded like the other locations, so that checks out, and Oswald is a walking red herring anyway.

It’s odd that there are two loose-end female characters, Amelia and Eleanor. I’m fairly sure that Eleanor is a red herring who died long before the start of the story. (I guess like, it’s ironic that despite Oswald’s theory, she and her mother end up the only Galleys who Katherine remembers.)

She’s given more attention than Amelia, who is mentioned just three times. No explanation given on why she’s at the head of the curse. Hell of a birthday present for poor old Rupert. I assume she’s also been dead for ages (I guess she had to be as you have to remember the dead to contract the curse), but that’s all I got.

Can we really not figure out Tony’s father’s name, or did @ just not realize at the moment he wrote the note? I certainly can’t.

Anyway I feel both like a smartypants for getting to the end and like a dumb-dumb for not understanding what is at the end. If anyone could shed some light on this for me, that would be nice. Thank you William for the game, well done!

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Shameful update.

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Cheated myself into the 98th file, spoilers follow.

Genuinely unsure how I could have figured that out, and completely at a loss for how @’s trick in the poem worked. So names do matter? I guess? And since we just worked his out, we’re gonna die… right? But the rest of the poem doesn’t contain the “dead bodies strewn about” that @ mentions in 21-CH-3, so… what the hell. The poem is addressed to a “you” — the future reader, i.e. us? And the number at the end… what? If it’s a code, I don’t get it, and I don’t think it can be a password simply for lack to places to put it.

In conclusion: I am once again feeling dumb for not getting the ending and now not even feeling proud of myself for getting there. Hum.

Edit: Ah, I guess the mystery of the number and the poem is solved. Who would’ve thunk @ liked that stuff.

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I think the rule of the curse is "remember the last person to have died from the curse, and shortly after you die as well". There does appear to be a small time delay; none of the characters involved died immediately after remembering someone and it is usually at the end of the scene in which they do. I don't think you need to remember the name of the previous person exactly - for example, it wouldn't have been possible for Oswald to remember Tony's name because he never knew Tony's real name to begin with. It seems to me you just need to remember the person and who they were in some meaningful sense. Physical items seem to help prompt memories, but I'm not sure they strictly essential per se - not clear to me what physical object Katherine had that prompted links to Annie, for example. I think it's probably more the close emotional feeling certain belongings can evoke, the same way a particular passage of music did it for Rupert.

With Annie, I think she was just unlucky - the curse beat her to her suicide very fractionally. In another world where she was a bit quicker, she might have ended the curse there.

It does seem to me John was very unlikely to have been killed by the curse if he hadn't committed suicide, because the odds of him being prompted to remember Katherine, who really had nothing to do with him, were very low. Since he was capable of being publicly identified, he didn't die as a result of the curse himself.

With Katherine, she dies because she remembers Annie as a result of her conversation with John. I don't think this was a trick by John - it is heavily implied he thinks he murdered everyone and that's why he commits suicide (especially in the latest version with the added dialogue). Rather, it's just misfortune in how events played out.

What @ figures out is that he is about to die, because he read the name of the last recorded victim and remembered who they were - he recognised the name, and she would have been a colleague of his judging by Alan Thomas' briefing, so when the memories came rushing back, @ realised his time was up. The reason he said "by God I hope this works" is because he was always a bit of a loner and didn't think there was much reason for anyone to remember him, so he hoped the curse might die with him and be finished.

00-dream is a curious one. It seems to me that the curse can partly exert an influence on people and cause them to have strange dreams or visions - you can see this especially with Martha's death as well. I don't think 00-dream is written by @ in his full mind, so to speak, especially as it so dangerously discloses his name. My view is that it is the curse influencing him, although that's obviously a fair bit of viewer interpretation. @ hoped the curse would end, he'd hardly be leaving behind clues that would prompt people examining his files to meaningfully remember him on purpose.

The code (43092) is actually the real life code for the music roll for Because of You by Lee Sims for player pianos, the lyrics to which are written down in 00-dream. This mirrors partly the piano roll which started this all off by reminding Rupert of Amelia, which is 03746 I'd Climb the Highest Mountain, also by Lee Sims, which @ clearly found during his research. Maybe he also found 43092. Maybe the curse found it for him. If you know @'s name, maybe the curse is finding you.