I understand. I'm just saying that signs need to be heavily scrutinised. Wormholes can be used to "spell" things. Imagine each as a dot. Placed intently, you can make letters.
I though there was some foreign language characters in a level code in the comments. I put it into Google Translate to no avail. It kinda looks Chinese. I wanted to see what it did since Google Translate thought it wasn't a language. So I pasted it into the level editor to see what it represented. Then, I was warped into many years to the future!
More specifically, the first character (or first two, I don't remember) encodes the version number of the level. Version 1 levels are the only supported ones right now, so trying to load a level with a version greater than 1 gives this error.
To fix the "does not save" problem and make it playable, copy the barrier on the image previous post, and then play(do not go back to editor, or you will have to copy again)
Level name: this is why we should have barrier at the wall
Thanks for reporting! Fun fact, the barriers were saving properly, but getting deleted when loading the level because I didn't completely remove the "delete barriers next to walls on level load" functionality (even though I thought I did.)
I'll push out a build that fixes this really soon...
My best 100% pb time is 35:56. I think sub 30 min might be possible but probably not by much. Curious to see if others have speedran this and what their times are :)
Did you see the signs that talked about "terraforming"? They're a hint. If you're not sure what to do with that, also think about 11,17, which I can tell from your current progress you've beaten in all possible ways, so something there might help once you figure out why the signs were important.
Question: in 12,16 why does wormhole+worhole go to the same place as wormhole+tele? was it unintentional that i was able to do the wormhole+tele or something? they would usualy go to 2 different places no?
When you double teleport, you go 5 rooms up and then into the same place relative to the top and left border of the room. To answer your question, since they're in the same room, "5 rooms up" is the same.
I was going to link you to the discussion of the starting point for that (11,20), but I can't find it myself right now - this is a very active comment section.
So, since I don't know quite what part you're stuck on, obviously the first bit is that the starting point to get to 11,21 is 11,20. There's an exit from there that you can't reach normally.
If you've opened the wormhole at 11,15, then you probably already know how to reach that extra exit, and forgot the exit was there when trying to figure out 11,21.
If you haven't done that yet, then your hint is that the splitters aren't just part of a rock-pushing puzzle.
Okay I just found out the solution because during the countless amount of time trying the puzzle, I thought I needed to get the extra cat from the last chamber and not the second to last.
And the discussion about 11,20 must have been deleted because not one time in the comments was 11,20 mentioned, trust me, I looked.
That's unfortunate it was deleted - it actually had the step-by-step buried a few replies in. But glad you figured it out. The pointer about using the second last splitter chamber would have been the next tip if I knew how far you'd gotten - didn't want to give away too much too fast. That tripped me up for a long time too. I spent way too much time trying to copy the cat in the last part as well, only to eventually notice the other flag had one more move.
Won't be the last time you'll be stuck for ages and suddenly realize the solution that's only obvious in hindsight. Pretty sure Ethan could take over the world if he weren't busy making puzzle games. 🤣
I got to the Farold Roberts and Atzlar room but the cryptid isn't there?!? Seems like a bug because the cryptid is missing. I got there via walkthrough which is how I know what I'm missing. I just unlocked the room. Never been there before. Help?!?
This is my best guess (please confirm @epicpikaguy)
The game is trying to make a flag with greater than 9 steps. Since the game won't let you have more than 9 steps, it freaks out and gives you a negative number corresponding to the positive number. (which is why if you continue far enough, the step counter will be -65525, *blank*, 9, 8, and so on.) Next, the game tries to make an image on the flag for the number. Since it can't find a dot image, it searches in the game image database and finds another image, which it places on the flag. I still have no idea why the game is trying to make a higher than 9 step flag. (For confirmation help, the "wormhole" flag gives 24 steps.)
I want to see that explanation, but I also want to know if it's possible to manipulate specific flags to spawn. I have photo documentation of at least two dozen glitch flags, but don't know if I can get them "back".
Actually, I think the mechanism at the beginning is causing flags to move without adding to the undo stack. Then when undoing the values for other objects become flags, and you get a bunch of garbage data.
Your synopsis seems to be more or less correct, from what I can gather. Here's a relevant comment in the game's code (encoded in rot13): "[n fgrc pbhagre inyhr gung vf] terngre guna 10 zrnaf vg ercerfragf (inyhr-0kssss-1) fgrcf (juvpu raqf hc orvat artngvir.)"
(The game's codebase is so large that I keep having to re-remember how certain parts work, which is why comments like these come in handy.)
As for the images on the flags (I'm simplifying here but it's basically correct): the game stores image indices in a giant list, and the flag "pip" images are stored together. E.G. there's an image for one dot, followed by an image of two dots, and so on. Normal flags don't have values greater than 9, but when glitch flags do, they try to access e.g. the 20th dot image, which ends up being a different image entirely since the indices are stored next to each other.
This is a bug; Thanks for bringing this to my attention!
Fun fact: the game has a "static analyzer" that marks objects which are guaranteed to not move or change, which lets the game make undo states use less memory. I do wonder if that was a good decision, though, since it often caused bugs (like this one) and doesn't save a whole lot of memory overall.
I do think this is funny, and I found many similar bugs over the course of development. Part of me wants to keep this behavior when "enable old bugs" is turned on, but:
This causes some potentially dangerous behavior with reading/writing out of bounds (My development builds of the game check for Out Of Bounds reading on many arrays, and this bug causes OOB reads, which are concerning.)
I could change the code so this bug behaves in a safe way, but I'm thinking that might be a lot of work.
I could add in those "weird flags" in a safer way in the future. Possibly.
I'll upload a patch that fixes this (and improves/fixes some other things as well) some time in the near future.
Finally at 100 % here, and I just want to extend my warmest compliments and gratitude to the developer for an incredible game. This game has been so much fun - incredibly difficult at times, but you always twist your mind and learn something new about how to exploit the tiny details of the game mechanics. In the beginning, it felt like the game almost started with the difficulty level of the most difficult stars in part 1, but slowly and steadily you get used to how hard it is and just start loving the fact that there is no portion of the game you just fly through at the beginning - at least not for me.
Just a series of beautiful puzzles, and really impressive how so many puzzles are placed within each other as well - I loved how there was almost an infinite amount of fun things to do with the cats, cryptids and stars. I'm sorry that this was the conclusion to the saga, I would have been interested to pitch in to keep the series going!
Thanks again, Ethan - this has been a great thing to have in my life on an on and off basis for the past 4 weeks.
Any help for the stars in 14,17; 11,12; 14,19; 11,18; 7,21? (I need 2 more stars for the door.)
While I've already unlocked the cryptid door there's obviously more out there; I assume I'll need to double tp in these rooms and have no clue how: 7,16; 6,18 (...well, I have some ideas, but the execution looks like it'll be hell); 18,17 (apparently you can't do this the obvious way to bring two in from below because of the differing amounts of ice); 13,8
For 14,19 rocks collide with flags and stars, so push the star out.
For 11,18 push a dead cat down.
For 7,21 use the rocket/finale mechanic to your advantage. and push a dead cat up.
For 7,16 cryptid push a flag with a rock to revive the second cat.
For 6,18 I assume you already have the room above? If you do, make a loop at the bottom right by pushing the rock down. You'll also need a dead cat on a wormhole.
For 13,8 the game always takes the higher number of steps, so you can save on a 0-flag without dying.
11,12 is still hard. The reason I had no ideas is because I forgot about how execution order works, so I wasn't even sure how to get to the other side. Once I got that part it just got to the fact that this puzzle is kind of difficult.
11,18 That was the obvious part. I ended up messing around until I somehow managed to have two alive cats in different columns, after which it was easy.
7,21 I did try going to the upward transition above the 0 flag to see if it'd help, but didn't see any way it'd be possible to actually get there.
6,18 I always forget about dead cats. That makes this pretty easy.
13,8 The specific part I'm struggling on is that part with the three flags and three rocks that makes a wall that you can't pass. The obvious solution would be to run forwards through the room first, but then there's an obstacle after that point that you can't pass without a zero flag, and at that point you haven't revived the second cat yet.
(also the 18,17 in the original post was a typo, meant 8)
For 8,17 you do come in the way you think is obvious. You are right that you need the same amount of ice between the cats and the exits. That level contains everything you need to make that happen (except for one spare cat you'll have to bring with you - I don't think you have enough range of motion otherwise, at least I never found a way without it).
For 13,8, you're actually on the right track when you realized that you can't get past the wall. If you push the only rock you can push, it blocks the hallway. But you do have to get on the other side of the rock. So if you can't pass the rock, the rock has to pass you. You're going to spend a lot of time carefully moving the revived cat around. MetaMetaPuzzle gave you the key here, although to restate - a 0-flag doesn't have to kill you.
In 7,21, to restate again, a 0-flag doesn't have to kill you. As discussed somewhere below, there is no way to send two cats to the left side and then revive them, so you'll have to use "something else" to push a dead cat.
You can also get to 11,12 by double-teleporting. It won't help with the star, but it gets a cryptid.
Could you use other mechanics? The bigger map issue could maybe be fixed by using blue zero flags. The portals could be replaced with pink flags and cat cloning
After some struggling I managed to get out with two starting with one, and that's enough to get the star. You need to start with two to get out with three, which lets you exit the above room from the top.
No. Why did you have to tell us that? Now I'm going to have to try to figure out how you did that, because I couldn't get out with more than one until I brought two in. There goes my evening :P
Edit - nuclear facepalm... face-to-face. I had to use that to solve another level. How did I not think of that until now?? It's even easier to set up on this level than it was on the level that needed it for the "normal" solution.
Ah, right, that star is on the spikes not on the exit space, I forgot.
Okay, so you've managed to get a spare cat, and the portal in the room giving you one spare cat would suggest you need one spare... but you're right you need one more. The entrance to the room is as wide as it is for a reason. There's a different solution to 11,17 when you start with an extra cat that will get you there.
If you need a hint, you won't take both original cats out, you need to sacrifice one of them fairly early to relocate a troublesome part of the level. Then you'll be able to take the other and both revived cats.
Ah, okay. Three is enough. So I'm not sure exactly where you're stuck since there are a lot of places here where it looks like you'll be close, and then lose the plot (as I found out the hard way), but a few suggestions:
1) First thing you need to push across is the flag, This starts with two of the starting cats plus the revived cat from the medusa section, and using the "cats don't turn unless they move" mechanic.
2) Never push a cat across the conveyor, only flags and rocks.
3) I found it easiest (maybe necessary) to stash the level-ending cat in the south tunnel to set things up so that I could recharge moves by moving up onto a flag, since otherwise it was too easy to either walk onto the spikes or accidentally walk onto the conveyor.
After sporadically working through this, finally at 100%-- I really want to celebrate this achievement of a game, so deep and charming, with layers upon layers upon layers
Too difficult by far for some dummy like me to do alone, but it's been a wonderful experience to get tips and support from the community; thanks to everybody but especially Ethan for this beautiful game
Since I had managed to bring two cats to the end of that level (am not gonna spoil it) I had forgotten to break-teleport from that one as well. THANK YOU!
When you "break teleport", do you ALWAYS get 5 rooms up? That's how I managed to understand I had overlooked one room... from only two other examples. Should I have known that beforehand? That would have been SO helpful!
I made another custom level, and this time it's more vanilla-style and has a central mechanic! I'm proud of this collection of neat puzzles, and I hope they aren't too difficult.
After all this hard work ( thank you Ethan, what an adventure!), I can't seem to figure out how to unblock this wormholes in 10,11 ! which doesn't seem to be a big deal here ... it's not very funny.
Found the one from 12,16 (can't believe I missed that one). ONE LAST CRYPTID WHERE ARE YOU? I'm guessing it's one I *think* I did but maybe didn't... Why are you so cruel epicpikguy? You have ruined my work week with this fantastic game!
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Any chance of adding signs/wormholes to the level editor?
Maybe.
It would enable the use of abusive language though
I understand. I'm just saying that signs need to be heavily scrutinised. Wormholes can be used to "spell" things. Imagine each as a dot. Placed intently, you can make letters.
You can do that with any type of square though
imagine each flag as a dot
I have travelled (British spelling) to the future
Wait how??
I though there was some foreign language characters in a level code in the comments. I put it into Google Translate to no avail. It kinda looks Chinese. I wanted to see what it did since Google Translate thought it wasn't a language. So I pasted it into the level editor to see what it represented. Then, I was warped into many years to the future!
It's just the error message when what you paste in is not a valid level.
More specifically, the first character (or first two, I don't remember) encodes the version number of the level. Version 1 levels are the only supported ones right now, so trying to load a level with a version greater than 1 gives this error.
It was the characters from the centre though. Looks Chinese.
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To fix the "does not save" problem and make it playable, copy the barrier on the image previous post, and then play(do not go back to editor, or you will have to copy again)
Level name: this is why we should have barrier at the wall
The barrier on right does not save, please fix
Thanks for reporting! Fun fact, the barriers were saving properly, but getting deleted when loading the level because I didn't completely remove the "delete barriers next to walls on level load" functionality (even though I thought I did.)
I'll push out a build that fixes this really soon...
Classic case of forgetting to remove the scalpel
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They fixed the bug! so i can finally use that to make level!
My best 100% pb time is 35:56. I think sub 30 min might be possible but probably not by much. Curious to see if others have speedran this and what their times are :)
Edit: That time is glitchless. My gliched any% pb is 4:23, but I don't use the intended way at all as shown in the pic.
did you just enable old bug and do the teleport on 10,19?
He haf hacked de matrix
yep
looks like enable old bugs, do the chain to get 2 cats and then use the room/wormhole bug in 10,19
How do you do that bug? (I’ve 100%’d the game, I just want to mess around.)
32:21 now :)
any hints on what i'm missing??
Did you see the signs that talked about "terraforming"? They're a hint. If you're not sure what to do with that, also think about 11,17, which I can tell from your current progress you've beaten in all possible ways, so something there might help once you figure out why the signs were important.
thanks!! finally figured it out :D
(spoilers)
Question: in 12,16 why does wormhole+worhole go to the same place as wormhole+tele? was it unintentional that i was able to do the wormhole+tele or something? they would usualy go to 2 different places no?
When you double teleport, you go 5 rooms up and then into the same place relative to the top and left border of the room. To answer your question, since they're in the same room, "5 rooms up" is the same.
ah, hadn't noticed the 5 rooms up rule, I'd assumed each had its own destination. thx for answering
Possible homage to 5 Step Steve
5 step rooms
Thanks!!!
The real puzzle in this level is figuring out what to do!
(The blue 9 flag is a placeholder for a star (@EPICPIKAGUY please add stars to the level editor))
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And please tell me how hard it is; Because I know the solution, it seems easy to me.
it was easy, lol
This buggy level can be beaten in 5.5 steps
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EDIT: changed level to more clearly show that a bug is in fact, a bug
2 bugs, I think
Can someone please help me with getting to room 11,21?
I am so stuck I had to make an itch.io account to comment this.
I was going to link you to the discussion of the starting point for that (11,20), but I can't find it myself right now - this is a very active comment section.
So, since I don't know quite what part you're stuck on, obviously the first bit is that the starting point to get to 11,21 is 11,20. There's an exit from there that you can't reach normally.
If you've opened the wormhole at 11,15, then you probably already know how to reach that extra exit, and forgot the exit was there when trying to figure out 11,21.
If you haven't done that yet, then your hint is that the splitters aren't just part of a rock-pushing puzzle.
Okay I just found out the solution because during the countless amount of time trying the puzzle, I thought I needed to get the extra cat from the last chamber and not the second to last.
And the discussion about 11,20 must have been deleted because not one time in the comments was 11,20 mentioned, trust me, I looked.
That's unfortunate it was deleted - it actually had the step-by-step buried a few replies in. But glad you figured it out. The pointer about using the second last splitter chamber would have been the next tip if I knew how far you'd gotten - didn't want to give away too much too fast. That tripped me up for a long time too. I spent way too much time trying to copy the cat in the last part as well, only to eventually notice the other flag had one more move.
Won't be the last time you'll be stuck for ages and suddenly realize the solution that's only obvious in hindsight. Pretty sure Ethan could take over the world if he weren't busy making puzzle games. 🤣
Just one more cryptid. Can someone point me to the correct room to teleport from?
When you teleport, you go 5 rooms up
Thanks!! Another case of "didn't think it could be done until someone said it could"
I got to the Farold Roberts and Atzlar room but the cryptid isn't there?!? Seems like a bug because the cryptid is missing. I got there via walkthrough which is how I know what I'm missing. I just unlocked the room. Never been there before. Help?!?
I just found out there's TWO WAYS to get to that room! Two portals, or the laser arch thingy and a portal.
Apparently the "laser arch thingy" is an artificial wormhole. That might be why
What is the "laser arch thingy"? Ive 100% completed this like 10 times and i still have no clue lol
I think the teleporter
If the teleporter is the thing at the end of most levels/rooms/corridors, then yes.
This configuration summons "F" flags strangely frequently.
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what do i do to create the f flags?
The bug may have been fixed by now. Doing things, then undoing, then doing more things, etc, would use random data to create unconventional flags
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Bug maker
Undo on the flag machine to make bug (you can even make a star in the things)
and many flag image that never used in the game, is this some secret thing that for later update?
its fun, trust me
EDIT: i just want to make a things that make you climb the flag, and then its turned to the bug test room
This is either a bug or an easter egg
What is happeninggggg~~~~~
I figured it out!
Sort of spoilers below?
This is my best guess (please confirm @epicpikaguy)
The game is trying to make a flag with greater than 9 steps. Since the game won't let you have more than 9 steps, it freaks out and gives you a negative number corresponding to the positive number. (which is why if you continue far enough, the step counter will be -65525, *blank*, 9, 8, and so on.) Next, the game tries to make an image on the flag for the number. Since it can't find a dot image, it searches in the game image database and finds another image, which it places on the flag. I still have no idea why the game is trying to make a higher than 9 step flag. (For confirmation help, the "wormhole" flag gives 24 steps.)
I want to see that explanation, but I also want to know if it's possible to manipulate specific flags to spawn. I have photo documentation of at least two dozen glitch flags, but don't know if I can get them "back".
Actually, I think the mechanism at the beginning is causing flags to move without adding to the undo stack. Then when undoing the values for other objects become flags, and you get a bunch of garbage data.
Your synopsis seems to be more or less correct, from what I can gather. Here's a relevant comment in the game's code (encoded in rot13): "[n fgrc pbhagre inyhr gung vf] terngre guna 10 zrnaf vg ercerfragf (inyhr-0kssss-1) fgrcf (juvpu raqf hc orvat artngvir.)"
(The game's codebase is so large that I keep having to re-remember how certain parts work, which is why comments like these come in handy.)
As for the images on the flags (I'm simplifying here but it's basically correct): the game stores image indices in a giant list, and the flag "pip" images are stored together. E.G. there's an image for one dot, followed by an image of two dots, and so on. Normal flags don't have values greater than 9, but when glitch flags do, they try to access e.g. the 20th dot image, which ends up being a different image entirely since the indices are stored next to each other.
update: magical mystical flags exist and I even touched one of them!
This is a bug; Thanks for bringing this to my attention!
Fun fact: the game has a "static analyzer" that marks objects which are guaranteed to not move or change, which lets the game make undo states use less memory. I do wonder if that was a good decision, though, since it often caused bugs (like this one) and doesn't save a whole lot of memory overall.
I do think this is funny, and I found many similar bugs over the course of development. Part of me wants to keep this behavior when "enable old bugs" is turned on, but:
I'll upload a patch that fixes this (and improves/fixes some other things as well) some time in the near future.
"I could add in those "weird flags" in a safer way in the future. Possibly."
Will you make new puzzle or just add them in level editor?
Probably the editor, if I decide to add them at all. I'm still not sure about it.
will you make more puzzle or a part 3? i want play more (idk if you still have idea or not)
From the previous announcement, Part 2 is the conclusion.
Ice-omorphism
Hypothetically, if you used a bunch of ice, you would get essentially three interweaved grids.
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Finally at 100 % here, and I just want to extend my warmest compliments and gratitude to the developer for an incredible game. This game has been so much fun - incredibly difficult at times, but you always twist your mind and learn something new about how to exploit the tiny details of the game mechanics. In the beginning, it felt like the game almost started with the difficulty level of the most difficult stars in part 1, but slowly and steadily you get used to how hard it is and just start loving the fact that there is no portion of the game you just fly through at the beginning - at least not for me.
Just a series of beautiful puzzles, and really impressive how so many puzzles are placed within each other as well - I loved how there was almost an infinite amount of fun things to do with the cats, cryptids and stars. I'm sorry that this was the conclusion to the saga, I would have been interested to pitch in to keep the series going!
Thanks again, Ethan - this has been a great thing to have in my life on an on and off basis for the past 4 weeks.
Any help for the stars in 14,17; 11,12; 14,19; 11,18; 7,21? (I need 2 more stars for the door.)
While I've already unlocked the cryptid door there's obviously more out there; I assume I'll need to double tp in these rooms and have no clue how: 7,16; 6,18 (...well, I have some ideas, but the execution looks like it'll be hell); 18,17 (apparently you can't do this the obvious way to bring two in from below because of the differing amounts of ice); 13,8
Definite spoilers below:
For 14,17 push a dead cat down from above.
There is a discussion of 11,12 at https://itch.io/post/7161525 .
For 14,19 rocks collide with flags and stars, so push the star out.
For 11,18 push a dead cat down.
For 7,21 use the rocket/finale mechanic to your advantage. and push a dead cat up.
For 7,16 cryptid push a flag with a rock to revive the second cat.
For 6,18 I assume you already have the room above? If you do, make a loop at the bottom right by pushing the rock down. You'll also need a dead cat on a wormhole.
For 13,8 the game always takes the higher number of steps, so you can save on a 0-flag without dying.
I hope this is enough :)
Definitely helps.
11,12 is still hard. The reason I had no ideas is because I forgot about how execution order works, so I wasn't even sure how to get to the other side. Once I got that part it just got to the fact that this puzzle is kind of difficult.
11,18 That was the obvious part. I ended up messing around until I somehow managed to have two alive cats in different columns, after which it was easy.
7,21 I did try going to the upward transition above the 0 flag to see if it'd help, but didn't see any way it'd be possible to actually get there.
6,18 I always forget about dead cats. That makes this pretty easy.
13,8 The specific part I'm struggling on is that part with the three flags and three rocks that makes a wall that you can't pass. The obvious solution would be to run forwards through the room first, but then there's an obstacle after that point that you can't pass without a zero flag, and at that point you haven't revived the second cat yet.
(also the 18,17 in the original post was a typo, meant 8)
For 8,17 you do come in the way you think is obvious. You are right that you need the same amount of ice between the cats and the exits. That level contains everything you need to make that happen (except for one spare cat you'll have to bring with you - I don't think you have enough range of motion otherwise, at least I never found a way without it).
For 13,8, you're actually on the right track when you realized that you can't get past the wall. If you push the only rock you can push, it blocks the hallway. But you do have to get on the other side of the rock. So if you can't pass the rock, the rock has to pass you. You're going to spend a lot of time carefully moving the revived cat around. MetaMetaPuzzle gave you the key here, although to restate - a 0-flag doesn't have to kill you.
In 7,21, to restate again, a 0-flag doesn't have to kill you. As discussed somewhere below, there is no way to send two cats to the left side and then revive them, so you'll have to use "something else" to push a dead cat.
You can also get to 11,12 by double-teleporting. It won't help with the star, but it gets a cryptid.
A test of rule execution order
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Wait... what?
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How?
What on earth....
Bug
Yep, this is definitely a bug.
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Wait... What?
"Level editor"
"May contain spoilers"
"May also contain bugs"
Ā܅؉ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿĀĀĀĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿĀĀÿÿĀĀĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿĀÿććÿÿĀĀĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿĀĀāĀÿĿÿÿĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿൿĀടāÿÿąÿĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿĀĀĀĀĀĀÿĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿൿൿįĆĆąĂĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿĀĀĀĀĀĀടĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿൿĀĀĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿࣿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ䃿ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
No stone this time, how do you push the red eyes guy?
This is a really clever, tricky puzzle! There are may tricky steps here that test your knowledge of this game's mechanics.
how do i make barrier in wall? there are this thing in the game for decorative, but why i can't make
i want test when you stuck on wall, can you go through the barrier or not
I know! Walls should allow barriers! In that specific case, you can just substitute the wall with a cell surrounded by barriers, but the cosmetics!
Also, if you put barriers on the edge of a room and then walls on the other side, it deletes the barriers
I've never seen that screen in my life? Is this in the base game?
its fake custom level, i make 2 room and make them in 1 image, and stole his warp art and move them to here
I see. I've done this exact thing, except with Baba is You.
I can also see some interesting... other... puzzle ideas with wormholes.
Here's a playable version of the above with similar logic:
ĀȃฌĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿĀटटटटटĀĀÿÿÿćÿĀĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿĀटটটটटĀĀÿ䃿ÿĀÿĀĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿğটটটटĀĀÿÿÿ䃿ÿĀĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿĀटটটটटĀĀÿĀÿÿÿĀĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿĀटटटटटĀĀÿ䅿ÿÿÿĀĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĈĀĀĀĀĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀāĀĀĀĀĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿĀÿÿÿÿÿĀĀĀĥÿÿĀĀĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿĀÿÿĀⅿĉāāĢÿĀĀĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿĀÿÿÿÿÿĀĀĀĆĆĀĀĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿĀćĀÿÿĀĀĀĀಟಟ౿ÿĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿĀÿÿÿÿÿĀĀĀĀÿÿÿÿĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀÿÿÿÿĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀĀÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ
Could you use other mechanics? The bigger map issue could maybe be fixed by using blue zero flags. The portals could be replaced with pink flags and cat cloning
lazy
I would like to take two cats from 12,18 to the top, but I am one step away from dying.
Can you advise?
Maybe you should come to 12,18 from another way ?
Thank you!
If the cat had entered from the top right, I wouldn't have had to think.
Now I'm in at 100%!
can someone help me here? i keep thinking i know what to do and it doesn't work out. trying to get to 11,16 with more than one cat :(
there's a discussion about that, here :
https://itch.io/post/7198870
After some struggling I managed to get out with two starting with one, and that's enough to get the star.You need to start with two to get out with three, which lets you exit the above room from the top.No. Why did you have to tell us that? Now I'm going to have to try to figure out how you did that, because I couldn't get out with more than one until I brought two in. There goes my evening :P
Edit - nuclear facepalm... face-to-face. I had to use that to solve another level. How did I not think of that until now?? It's even easier to set up on this level than it was on the level that needed it for the "normal" solution.
After getting 100%, I have turned to the level editor
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(I don't know how to make a good puzzle)
another mistake about forgot remove the test spawn lol
OK I edited the post. Should be fine now :)
i used same spawn for play this, so i already completed
A little more help ?
I miss 5,9 : I don't know how to go there.
(And I wish I could go back to my life :-D)
Sounds like you haven't opened one of the wormholes at 12,10. yet
Yeeeeesssss ! I'm in the100% club !!
Thank you very much, clansing, for your help !
Thank you to the community too, without you, I wouldn't be there ! ;-)
And Thank you Epicpikaguy for the game !
This is the intended solution
A simple one-screen puzzle with some strange logic:
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nice puzzle about the ice collectable things
"Strange" indeed
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this is hard
good
How do I reach the left part of 12,16 ?
Did you get the star in 11,16 yet? You'll need that first.
Yes, I've got it ! But I think I need one more cat to go up to 11,15
Ah, right, that star is on the spikes not on the exit space, I forgot.
Okay, so you've managed to get a spare cat, and the portal in the room giving you one spare cat would suggest you need one spare... but you're right you need one more. The entrance to the room is as wide as it is for a reason. There's a different solution to 11,17 when you start with an extra cat that will get you there.
If you need a hint, you won't take both original cats out, you need to sacrifice one of them fairly early to relocate a troublesome part of the level. Then you'll be able to take the other and both revived cats.
I come from 11,17 with 3 cats, but it seems that's not enough...
Ah, okay. Three is enough. So I'm not sure exactly where you're stuck since there are a lot of places here where it looks like you'll be close, and then lose the plot (as I found out the hard way), but a few suggestions:
1) First thing you need to push across is the flag, This starts with two of the starting cats plus the revived cat from the medusa section, and using the "cats don't turn unless they move" mechanic.
2) Never push a cat across the conveyor, only flags and rocks.
3) I found it easiest (maybe necessary) to stash the level-ending cat in the south tunnel to set things up so that I could recharge moves by moving up onto a flag, since otherwise it was too easy to either walk onto the spikes or accidentally walk onto the conveyor.
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The Lost Puzzle on 15,11 : Watching man to the hole
Hope the watching man detector don't have bug
Warning: very hard
An interesting puzzle, you just have to keep careful track of your parity.
After sporadically working through this, finally at 100%-- I really want to celebrate this achievement of a game, so deep and charming, with layers upon layers upon layers
Too difficult by far for some dummy like me to do alone, but it's been a wonderful experience to get tips and support from the community; thanks to everybody but especially Ethan for this beautiful game
11,9.
how?
Me go crazy
First break-teleport to 11,15
Yeah I figured the portal in 11,15 would get me to 11,9, but where do I need to "break-teleport" from?
I feel like I did everything there is to do. I'm guessing I have forgotten one (or think I did it) but I don't want to do it all over again
OH MY GOD I FOUND IT
Since I had managed to bring two cats to the end of that level (am not gonna spoil it) I had forgotten to break-teleport from that one as well.
THANK YOU!
Finally in the 100% club.
Maybe spoiler below :
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When you "break teleport", do you ALWAYS get 5 rooms up?
That's how I managed to understand I had overlooked one room... from only two other examples.
Should I have known that beforehand? That would have been SO helpful!
I made another custom level, and this time it's more vanilla-style and has a central mechanic! I'm proud of this collection of neat puzzles, and I hope they aren't too difficult.
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good!
It's been a bit since I did that room. Did that one not open automatically when you have two cats in the room?
Less or more, yep ! (I had forgotten very much a very little useful element indeed)
100% Complete. Thank you everybody!
Still don't get it... Could you please tell me more ?
Assuming you thought you had to unlock 10,16 : you need an extra cat, he's sleeping not too far away ...
I've got two cats in 10,17, but ... I don't know how to bring them both to 10,16...
PLEASE HELP A FELLOW CAT.
I'm dying to finish this game but can't seem to find where to even look for...
To open 13,3, you have to double teleport from 13,8.
I figured as much but couldn't do it until you told me it was possible! Thanks! Only two left.
Found the one from 12,16 (can't believe I missed that one).
ONE LAST CRYPTID WHERE ARE YOU?
I'm guessing it's one I *think* I did but maybe didn't...
Why are you so cruel epicpikguy?
You have ruined my work week with this fantastic game!