sooo, i dont really get the point of the phone GPS/Dating app gimmick. it just seems like an unnecessary extra step to get things done. why click on the phone extra when you could do things dierectly before? also always having the phone on the site now for stuff is kind of...eh.
i dont try to critic, maybe its necessary for stuff that comes later into play, that could be possible. i am just curious.
Once all the areas and starting npcs are in, there are some places where you can go to 4 places from one area, and that will eventually increase.
Combine that with being able to meet different npcs around the same time. The screen will become cluttered with options. We're moving away from rnging meeting the guy you want through the events and just talking to them when they are at x location at x time, as people were annoyed with rng trying to meet the guy they want to with the old.
Also it adds a bit more of overtone that the fact the player and their phone are linked.
so I dont know if this is happening for anyone else, but as soon as Zorro adds the apps to my phone in game I cant exit from the phone because the dialogue box is covering the button to close the phone and I cant leave the house or do anything because theres no options to. If I try hitting the x it asks me if Id like ro go to sleep and then the game closes out.
Yeah, it's part of the tutorial. There will be a 3rd time but the fight will be drastically different since by then you'll know 3 fighting styles and you'll have multiple ways to lose and different win scenes.
The first time I tried this game, it was an open world. The second time I tried this game, it changed into an RPG on rails. I'm reticent to try it again since it seems to be a different game each time I play it.
Sorry about that. It's slowly going back to open world like it used to be. We just had to move from html because we could no longer support it, so we thought as the new coder started to put all the new systems and old events in, we'd give more of a story since people complained a lot of having no clue what to do.
Personally I thought just having freeroam and discovering things on your own was nice, but kept getting complaints on what to do. We also decided to try to do away with the rng of trying to meet the guy you wanted as well.
Now once the systems are in proper order and all the areas are back in, which we're currently putting them back in, you'll be free to do as you please. Meet guys or do the story as they get added in.
The main issue why it's taking so long was stated in dev logs as we've been open about it. The coder who started to move everything to renpy has rl issues he needed to take care, then we got another coder who didn't workout very well with us, and now we're on our current coder who's working hard in putting in content and getting the systems in order!
It's part of the story, after you do Boss' deal at night. You just need to go to your house around 2-4 am I believe? Then the story mission will auto start or you just need to talk to Trald or Gen.
I don’t know if the new grounds version is up to date or my game is just bugging, but I can’t seem to forward any of the routes after i fought Ruvin, and i still can’t talk to Kuri because Zorro won’t let me.
We moved from html to renpy mainly because we were having storage issues. Then the SbA curse went into full effect, which is something always happens to the coder which has them stop working on the game to handle issues in RL. Once the game's systems are finished being put in and all the areas are back in, newgrounds will update again.
You might want to see about joining the Discord for more hands-on help. Otherwise try paying attention to the shop hours for your rat-related exploration.
i think that some of us long time fans are more upset cause that is not the first or second time that this game got a new engine. and most of the time got completly reworked in the process. starting from scratch. if there was just somekind of reasurance that the next time this story gets worked on, it will be worked on for good without anymore restarts. that would help calming the nerves.
It couldn't be helped. With all the changes in staff, compatibility, and game engines, it would have been a miracle for everything to go off without an issue. I'm just happy they didn't need to start over completely from scratch as they did with the Renpy change.
thats what i am saying. update take a long time to come out, and when a story gets start over from scratch, much of the first months is put into "worldbuilding" and "character introduktion" and when it seems it finally starts to get somewhere content wise(which can take 6 months to a year)...boom,another engine update.
wether it can be helped or not, it should be understandable why this is kind of frustrating for some people ,since that happened more than once. that why i said, an official message to reassure would be nice. thats all.
The team switched to a new engine to address that very issue. Patreon backers will be getting the long-awaited release soon. Itch.io will be getting said release next month.
They had to change game engines to make the phone work properly on androids. Patreon subscribers are about to receive a long-awaited update. Itch.io will receive said update one month later.
We've been hard at work getting things fixed up and we're really excited to get back to regular updates. Your patience will (hopefully) be well rewarded 😈
As posted below, SbA will be back shortly! Early Viewers will be the first to see the revitalized game, then the general public afterwards. We know it's been a long time and we're sorry for the wait, but stay tuned! We'll be updating regularly (again) from here on out!
Sewer passcode hints would’ve been better if we can check back with a certain rat’s store after getting hints so we wouldn’t have to roll back. OR ask someone in game for said information. Also consider the PM version of time as I would’ve assumed 4 is incorrect since PM for 4 is 16 when you can’t type AM or PM.
Don’t just leave it up to people having a save or google so we don’t feel stuck.
OH! AND the hints need to show up in my phone. I started screenshotting after my struggle with Mac’s code but I literally thought it was 6am and 6pm and that’s just woefully incorrect according to these comments. XD
Is this game still being worked on or did something happen to one or more of the people working on it? If something bad did happen, I hope things get better soon.
from my experience, i would say its still worked on, but it is also not unusual for this team to have loooong update pauses when they do some engine upgrade stuff as they tend to do that every so often and never seem to feel satisfied with the system they got. You decide if that is good or bad news for you
I don't remember exactly but it was related to the opening times of that lil' rat's shop. Was it 11:00 - 14:00, so 11001400? I'm on my phone so can't check it right now..
So after playing GameOver and Finding a Place, it's funny to see some characters appear in multiple games, makes it feel like a bigger game overall..
Especially by playing Finding a Place first, makes this game a bit more interesting imo.. I'm looking forward to what is to come! (And maybe see Ritch make an appearance here as well)
Btw how do encounter the orc? I heard he's romancible?
Something happened to the coder we were using so we switched to another and decided to just have them finish the engine and nothing else. It SHOULD be done in a few more months during fall.
There were issues making it work on renpy, but there will 100% be a phone version when the engine is done. We have it along with the html/web version working now.
This one was very tricky, but just like with Mac's passcode, once you figure it out the clues piece it together quite cleverly.
So during your investigations you learn that during the daylight hours the rats are operating out of stores owned by mice that sell mouse essence, and all open and close at the exact same time.
Is there any store in-game that checks all those boxes? Yes. Aero's Junk. Go to the Western District and make a note of the exact time of day his shop opens and when it closes. In this case, 11:00 AM to 4:00 PM. So the combination lock in the sewer is 11000400.
No, you just need to explore/pass the time in the Western District and see when Aero's Junk is an available option to go to. Like, if you go in and choose to pass time by talking to Aero, he'll say afterwards that it's closing time and you'll go back out to the Western District at 4 PM.
Oh yeah, don't fix the mobile version at all, just remove it and give up. It's a lazy fix to an obvious problem. You said you were gonna swap to renpy and fix the issues and you didn't. Came here to try and give you game a second chance, but it's clear that it's not worth my time.
There will be a mobile version when the engine is finished. It's not completed and won't be for a few more months. Along with a html version. Unfortunately something happened to the coder we were with at the start of the year, so we had to change and decided to just complete the engine instead of doing it while we add in content.
You go tired and without eating, that's how most of the bad ends work, be sure to save beforehand because once you get it you won’t be able to roll back.
PD if you have any info on how to get Zorro's OK, so you can work for kuri it'll be extremely appreciated.
All of it is coming back once the engine is complete.
Unfortunately something happened to the coder we were with at the start of the year, so we had to change and decided to just complete the engine instead of doing it while we add in content.
You can play the buggy html version over on newgrounds
Did he say he was bringing it back? I don't remember him saying anything about it. Not that I'd be against it, it's just they went to another program, unless he said it somewhere and I'm living under a rock.
edit: I just scrolled down, he said its gonna go back to freeroam or something, yay LOL
Yup^^ Chapter 3 you'll be able to explore once more. We made it like this while making the engine and put out content, but now we're just finishing the engine and content will come after it's done.
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sooo, i dont really get the point of the phone GPS/Dating app gimmick.
it just seems like an unnecessary extra step to get things done.
why click on the phone extra when you could do things dierectly before?
also always having the phone on the site now for stuff is kind of...eh.
i dont try to critic, maybe its necessary for stuff that comes later into play, that could be possible. i am just curious.
Once all the areas and starting npcs are in, there are some places where you can go to 4 places from one area, and that will eventually increase.
Combine that with being able to meet different npcs around the same time. The screen will become cluttered with options. We're moving away from rnging meeting the guy you want through the events and just talking to them when they are at x location at x time, as people were annoyed with rng trying to meet the guy they want to with the old.
Also it adds a bit more of overtone that the fact the player and their phone are linked.
I see, now i understand. Thanks for the informative answer.
Mine Did The Same Thing To me Lastnight ; ;
I've got the same issue, are you also using the android version?
No i was on the pc verson
me too - pc version
Will there ever be another update to the new grounds version?
Once the game gets all its areas in and the new systems aren't causing a mess, yup.
11000400 sewer
goblinsarerealman mac
it took way too long to realize
Question, do you need to actually fight Mac the second time or is there way to skip it?
Yeah, it's part of the tutorial. There will be a 3rd time but the fight will be drastically different since by then you'll know 3 fighting styles and you'll have multiple ways to lose and different win scenes.
Oh ok, thanks!
The first time I tried this game, it was an open world. The second time I tried this game, it changed into an RPG on rails. I'm reticent to try it again since it seems to be a different game each time I play it.
Sorry about that. It's slowly going back to open world like it used to be. We just had to move from html because we could no longer support it, so we thought as the new coder started to put all the new systems and old events in, we'd give more of a story since people complained a lot of having no clue what to do.
Personally I thought just having freeroam and discovering things on your own was nice, but kept getting complaints on what to do. We also decided to try to do away with the rng of trying to meet the guy you wanted as well.
Now once the systems are in proper order and all the areas are back in, which we're currently putting them back in, you'll be free to do as you please. Meet guys or do the story as they get added in.
The main issue why it's taking so long was stated in dev logs as we've been open about it. The coder who started to move everything to renpy has rl issues he needed to take care, then we got another coder who didn't workout very well with us, and now we're on our current coder who's working hard in putting in content and getting the systems in order!
is it supposed to look like this?
Would there be a 32.bit version ?
I can ask the coder.
Never have I been so happy to see an update!
I feel as though I'm stuck in a loop. I can't find the sewer entrance despite investigating everywhere in the neighborhood and western districts.
It's part of the story, after you do Boss' deal at night. You just need to go to your house around 2-4 am I believe? Then the story mission will auto start or you just need to talk to Trald or Gen.
I don’t know if the new grounds version is up to date or my game is just bugging, but I can’t seem to forward any of the routes after i fought Ruvin, and i still can’t talk to Kuri because Zorro won’t let me.
We moved from html to renpy mainly because we were having storage issues. Then the SbA curse went into full effect, which is something always happens to the coder which has them stop working on the game to handle issues in RL. Once the game's systems are finished being put in and all the areas are back in, newgrounds will update again.
That’s good to know! Thanks
Can pleaze someone tell me the Sewer passcode or at last how to get it!!!
You might want to see about joining the Discord for more hands-on help. Otherwise try paying attention to the shop hours for your rat-related exploration.
To whom it may concern,
No, the game isn't dead. They needed to change game engines because the phone, in the android version, was broken.
They are finishing up final tests at the time of this post. An update will be made for backers soon with Itch.io a month after.
I know this game is fantastic, and we are all itching for an update, but we need to remain calm.
If you need to be in the know, join the discord and converse with the community.
i think that some of us long time fans are more upset cause that is not the first or second time that this game got a new engine. and most of the time got completly reworked in the process. starting from scratch.
if there was just somekind of reasurance that the next time this story gets worked on, it will be worked on for good without anymore restarts. that would help calming the nerves.
It couldn't be helped. With all the changes in staff, compatibility, and game engines, it would have been a miracle for everything to go off without an issue. I'm just happy they didn't need to start over completely from scratch as they did with the Renpy change.
thats what i am saying. update take a long time to come out, and when a story gets start over from scratch, much of the first months is put into "worldbuilding" and "character introduktion" and when it seems it finally starts to get somewhere content wise(which can take 6 months to a year)...boom,another engine update.
wether it can be helped or not, it should be understandable why this is kind of frustrating for some people ,since that happened more than once. that why i said, an official message to reassure would be nice. thats all.
I started playing again but I still can't pull up the phone when I see comments that it's working what is the key or keybind to pull out the phone
If it's the p key then it's still not working on mobile
The team switched to a new engine to address that very issue. Patreon backers will be getting the long-awaited release soon. Itch.io will be getting said release next month.
Is the game done for? :(
Certainly feels like it. It's been over a year since the last game update.
How unfortunate
They had to change game engines to make the phone work properly on androids. Patreon subscribers are about to receive a long-awaited update. Itch.io will receive said update one month later.
Correct! I'm not sure what prize you win though.... 🤔
Also, good news! The phone mechanic now works on Android! 🎉
I'd settle for early access but that wouldn't be fair to backers. Also, that gif is hilarious.
😭 we know! But, we'll be back shortly!!
Sorry it's been so long 😭
We've been hard at work getting things fixed up and we're really excited to get back to regular updates. Your patience will (hopefully) be well rewarded 😈
As posted below, SbA will be back shortly! Early Viewers will be the first to see the revitalized game, then the general public afterwards. We know it's been a long time and we're sorry for the wait, but stay tuned! We'll be updating regularly (again) from here on out!
Is it posible for this game to be on windows and android ?
it does work on windows but not through the itch.io app. you will have to download it from a browser
We hope to have the option to download through the app soon. I know I (personally) use this option whenever possible.
Yep! The next update SHOULD function properly on Android. We're still doing some testing to make sure.
Just wish was an easier way to go between the night and day. Really hate that by a certain time, just seems like everything just ends.
Unfortunately, for the time being the night/day cycle is story-locked. You should be able to choose between your night owl and early bird selves soon!
I know this is a silly question and I know your making another game that is absolutely yummy. but when are we gonna get an update? ;_;
Sewer passcode hints would’ve been better if we can check back with a certain rat’s store after getting hints so we wouldn’t have to roll back. OR ask someone in game for said information. Also consider the PM version of time as I would’ve assumed 4 is incorrect since PM for 4 is 16 when you can’t type AM or PM.
Don’t just leave it up to people having a save or google so we don’t feel stuck.
OH! AND the hints need to show up in my phone. I started screenshotting after my struggle with Mac’s code but I literally thought it was 6am and 6pm and that’s just woefully incorrect according to these comments. XD
Hi, I play first time and I played pass to event rat in sewer after that I couldn't find another event . I spent many hours😭.
I don't know where I made a mistake Anyone have any advice? what to do next? I don't know where to go next. I feel so lost
ps. I want know the route Trald anyone have some guids?
Is this game still being worked on or did something happen to one or more of the people working on it? If something bad did happen, I hope things get better soon.
from my experience, i would say its still worked on, but it is also not unusual for this team to have loooong update pauses when they do some engine upgrade stuff as they tend to do that every so often and never seem to feel satisfied with the system they got.
You decide if that is good or bad news for you
If that's the case, it's better than it being abandoned then. Was just a bit worried because of how quiet it's been.
Sorry we've been so quiet. I JUST picked up development recently after a few engine issues so we're back in business again! Stay tuned :D
yay! Happy to hear! :D
Heard there was watersports in the game, where is it?
A friendly goblin is your way to unlock it relatively early on. I won't spoil it further, but pay very close attention to your options ;)
How do you access the rats layer haven't found it yet
Im using the newgrounds version so if theres a difference let me know
Pretty sure Newgrounds is behind on updates. You'll want the version here on Itch if you want the rat lair.
Does anyone know the password for the Mac's computer
goblinsarerealman
Thanks
I don't remember exactly but it was related to the opening times of that lil' rat's shop. Was it 11:00 - 14:00, so 11001400? I'm on my phone so can't check it right now..
So after playing GameOver and Finding a Place, it's funny to see some characters appear in multiple games, makes it feel like a bigger game overall..
Especially by playing Finding a Place first, makes this game a bit more interesting imo.. I'm looking forward to what is to come! (And maybe see Ritch make an appearance here as well)
Btw how do encounter the orc? I heard he's romancible?
Not in this version just yet. You can go on newgrounds and play the buggy version of sba and see him there.
Oh! thanks.. I might do that :)
Does anyone know if there are more sex scenes with Brass than just the one fisting scene when you're working for Boss?
Just the one right now.
seems like this game died like many of azu's games
Development news on Patreon/Disc
When is the final version going to be complete? Last I checked the game was supposed to be finished like a month or two ago
Something happened to the coder we were using so we switched to another and decided to just have them finish the engine and nothing else. It SHOULD be done in a few more months during fall.
Is there a android download for this vn ?
it got removed for some reason
There were issues making it work on renpy, but there will 100% be a phone version when the engine is done. We have it along with the html/web version working now.
Any news? I really miss the ork
Still making the engine. He'll be ever present in chapter 3 along with his brother, and you'll even be able to meet his father.
Do anyone know what's Mac password I am stuck on that part
goblinsarerealman
thx
Everyone looks so thin... or am I missing someone? At least they got the kind of balls I like.
The characters look thin to you? Some are like Aero or the rats, but it's mainly bara.
Well to be honest I'm comparing them to the dad from Finding a Place.
Hi, I seem to be stuck at the sewer password door, any tips or hints?
This one was very tricky, but just like with Mac's passcode, once you figure it out the clues piece it together quite cleverly.
So during your investigations you learn that during the daylight hours the rats are operating out of stores owned by mice that sell mouse essence, and all open and close at the exact same time.
Is there any store in-game that checks all those boxes? Yes. Aero's Junk. Go to the Western District and make a note of the exact time of day his shop opens and when it closes. In this case, 11:00 AM to 4:00 PM. So the combination lock in the sewer is 11000400.
Did they have a sign out we could check whenever? If so, I must have missed it.
No, you just need to explore/pass the time in the Western District and see when Aero's Junk is an available option to go to. Like, if you go in and choose to pass time by talking to Aero, he'll say afterwards that it's closing time and you'll go back out to the Western District at 4 PM.
Too bad I never saw daylight during the investigation.
Was there an update to the game? I saw that there was one in my feed but I don't see a devlog post.
Im also waiting, but I do not see anything yet. Lets hope so ya?
Oh yeah, don't fix the mobile version at all, just remove it and give up. It's a lazy fix to an obvious problem. You said you were gonna swap to renpy and fix the issues and you didn't. Came here to try and give you game a second chance, but it's clear that it's not worth my time.
There will be a mobile version when the engine is finished. It's not completed and won't be for a few more months. Along with a html version. Unfortunately something happened to the coder we were with at the start of the year, so we had to change and decided to just complete the engine instead of doing it while we add in content.
in the old version of the game, how do you get both of the bad ends with Harold? I’m spamming the bar but I just get the same interactions with him.
You go tired and without eating, that's how most of the bad ends work, be sure to save beforehand because once you get it you won’t be able to roll back.
PD if you have any info on how to get Zorro's OK, so you can work for kuri it'll be extremely appreciated.
thanks, but how do you run out of energy?
Go days without sleep mostly, and probably engage in sex and vore.
You're saying the energy can last longer than 1 day?
I think so?, I don't really know for sure.
What happen to the game ? where all the content go :o the transformation stuff , the hyper and all ?
you totaly rebuild the game ?
All of it is coming back once the engine is complete.
Unfortunately something happened to the coder we were with at the start of the year, so we had to change and decided to just complete the engine instead of doing it while we add in content.
You can play the buggy html version over on newgroundsWill the browser version be back soon?
Did he say he was bringing it back? I don't remember him saying anything about it. Not that I'd be against it, it's just they went to another program, unless he said it somewhere and I'm living under a rock.
edit: I just scrolled down, he said its gonna go back to freeroam or something, yay LOL
Yup^^ Chapter 3 you'll be able to explore once more. We made it like this while making the engine and put out content, but now we're just finishing the engine and content will come after it's done.
We will be having a html/web version up once the engine is completed. You can still play the buggy old version on newgrounds