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Does anyone know what happened to Andy Church?

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i know this game has already been out for a few years now, but i truly loved this game, its a shame that this creator doesnt seem to have any more projects going on, from what i know atlest, this game was really good, and i wish i could of played more

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Literally, I've just finished this VN and checked for any more info from the author and it seems like their socials have been wiped... T_T Andy Church if you are reading this comment, please know that I really enjoyed this and would love to see more from you but even if I never do that will never diminish the experience I had with this VN.

same

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I think Jack killed himself in the end. The guilt he feels for turning Anna into a monster and getting Grace in trouble is too much to bare. He wakes up in a field, both of the people he loves are there. It's not too long after what happened, probably within a few months since Jack's leg is still messed up from the incident. The two girls have sort of put the whole thing in their past, and have absolutely no scars to show of the incident. Grace even has her teeth back. This is exactly what heaven would be like for Jack, alone, sitting peacefully underneath a tree in a field with the two girls he loves the most. And do you really think Anna would have magically stopped being a psycho because Jack reveals that he never had a plan? That the most important thing to ever happen in her life wasn't planned, that it just happened for no reason? No, not after all that trauma. She had to bury the trauma of her parents death with the sheep and wolf story to begin with, the only thing that kept her going was believing that Jack was a hero, that he was a wolf. She wouldn't have been fine, she would have done something drastic. Not to mention Grace Anna kidnapped her and pulled her fucking teeth out. Anyway, that's my theory. Would love to hear what you guys have to say!

It's possible Grace got fake teeth to replace the ones pulled. That doesn't take away from your theory, it's just another possibility. 

It's a beautiful story and it has the right balance of romance/horror.

Really good. I think one character was more developed and more sympathizeable to me than the others. 

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but interesting

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I hope you're doing good for yourself Andy because this game being completely free is a crime. I found myself most invested in chapters 4 to 6 which is great because the middle point is usually when visual novels tend to lose me. I'd rather not spoil the twists and turns so if you're more interested in watching (listening) than playing, check out my experience in the video above. It's a long play with all endings included!

Thanks for making games!

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Really enjoying the game so far I'll update my opinion later on as I strive through. So far I think that the writing is very well written, I enjoy the story and the backgrounds. The characters look really good! 


If you're interested in indie horror games, or video games in general. Please check out my blind playthrough of Kill or Love below! I encourage those who watch my videos to leave reviews and play the games themselves and I hope to complete all 4 endings in these videos.

I must say it was a really good. Normally I get bored with Visual Novels because of how slow they are however It had be engaged the whole time. Somehow I guessed the "twist" it just clicked with me . The music is real good too. played all the endings loved the happy one . This game really is more like a life lesson . wish to see more games from you.

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I loved this VN but I just had a question about the happy ending. Is it in the future or are they all dead?

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Beautiful work, the end has been beautiful and has left me something to think about. Seriously tooooo good
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I loved it! I played all 4 endings and every of them was interersting in its own way

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I loved the artstyle but there wasn't any music and I had to add it myself.

I really love the artstyle of the game! Really compelling story too! Everything is just beautiful!

*even if this is ytp, I really do like everything in this game!

I usually never comment on the games I play, but this one struck me differently than those games so I feel like you deserve one.

I really love this game. It's heavier on the characterization, which I like. I truly felt like I got attached to Jack, Grace, and Anna. It's nice that we actually learn about the characters before making the choices at the end. And about the choices, they're actually easy to make instead of the usual visual novel where you just kind of guess which choice works in your favor, though it also fits with the game on how you learn more about them before actually choosing which person to end up with.

Now I'm going to talk about my choice of ending and more about the plot, so spoiler warning: Grace just wasn't the type of character I could imagine Jack living with, so I went to the ending where I killed her off and stayed with Anna. Kind of an asshole choice from me, to be honest, but I did read the wolf and sheep story wrong at first and thought Jack killed Anna's family (which ended up being right), and I liked Anna over Grace (and Anna, by the way, is an amazing yandere that reminded me of that one Stephen King novel, Misery, so good work on building her up that way), so that ended in the most logical conclusion I could think of. As for why I saw it as Jack killing Anna's family, I'm not sure. The thing that struck me hard was the fact that he didn't actually see his memories, rather taking the book at face value and mistaking the wolf for Anna. And again, I read it wrong at first, so when the plot twist came, I wasn't too surprised. Oops.

However, overall I was impressed with the game and I hope I can see more games from you in the future.

Hey there, this is the one and only VN that I deeply curious about. I've only play for 1 hour or so but there are so many questions going on in my head. Can someone spoil it out for me? About Jack, Anna and Grace past? I like how you develope the character emotions, especially Jack. The atmosphere in this game always gives me a chill. I love it, kudos for you Andy!

Did you ever finish it?

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Loved it. After playing One Thousand Lies (another short, sweet VN ported to Android) I was craving for something of the sorts. Good balance between a super engaging story and pace. Normaly VNs tend to be slow-paced, sometimes way too much to my liking, and this hit the sweetspot, and for that I'm grateful. I don't know if this is your first shot at writing and putting it out there. If so, kudos to you. Massively surprised. I've only watched 2 out of the 4 endings (that I would consider to be the good and good+ endings, perhaps) but I'm glad about their conclusions. :)

Only thing bothering me is... what was Grace's backstory? I feel like it was "there" but I wouldn't mind somebody clarifying it for me.

i think (im not sure) maybe her family was killed when she was a little girl?

I liked this VN. It was short but emotionally resonating. Especially the part about friendships. 

as a fellow game developer, I will give this a 10/10.. the art style was cool, music design was great. But there's one thing I didn't understand (or am I just dumb), I know there's a lot of clues regarding grace's past but I can't piece it together, Can someone clarify these to me

SPOILER ALERT!

 and also, when grace broke up with jack, she live with don right? so does that mean they did it so that grace would survive? i really want to know.

for the developer, if you're doing a game again, we can do a collab. I'm proficient in C# and C++ (unity and unreal engine). hit me up if you wanna work together (doing this for free since this is my passion)

I would really like to know the answer to that as well. Anna implied a few things but we never got any confirmation

I think for you question about Grace living with Don she was lying about that because remember at the part where jack and Anna burn grace’s belongings in the field when they are leaving jack looks back at the stuff and says he sees someone in a window of an abandoned building which we later find out is indeed grace since Anna claims they burned the items in front of her so I think that after grace left jack and quit her job she ended up living in that abandoned building but didn’t wanna reveal that

in the end where you don't kill either, what happens to jack ?, is he dead or is he still alive ?, I really don't understand what happened

Alive. They mend their ways and promise to "try" to let go of the past. 

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I loved it, really good.

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This was a nice experinece. A really creepy love triangle. It is just a good game.

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Love the psychology of the characters in this game, as well as the tense atmosphere and engaging twists. 

I do feel a lot of the endings were rushed, the "Anna/Jack" ending being the one exception (and I did see you comment that it came out the most naturally?). I also feel it would have been interesting to see events from Grace's POV, especially since we already see from the other two main characters.

Overall, an engaging visual novel. Definitely one of my favorite video games of all time.

Ohh my goddd....this game...no words...Magnificent work done by the creator..I completed this within 2hrs and i truly wish to make a vol 2 for it..

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No seuquel? Man, these story is awesome! truly inspirings, its a shame it ended her. but.. wow.. I spend 4 hours of my life playng these, reading it, at the end I was like, Oh ARe You Serious?! when I have to decide to kill or not kill Grace and Anna.. when you dont kill anyone, those words at the end,, they where truly insipiring, Thanks man

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