I'm not sure if this is intentional or a bug but while the game allows me to save any time I want there is no option to load a saved game file. I played on Linux.
Thank you! Actually, it's a bug but the bug is letting the players save their match. :-) It's so short it doesn't really make much sense. I should just disable the saving.
Of course I don't mind! That's great. We could make a version 1.5 integrating your translation as well if you are OK with that. I will need a few extra details such as your name for the credits. If you don't mind, we can do that together at the end of December, I'm pretty busy right now and I want to give you the time you deserve for your very kind effort.
Hmm... It's a little too simplistic. The sexism is often more nuanced than this. The two questions you got right are the marital status one - that question is always pretty much a way for employers to sneakily ask whether you're planning on taking maternity leave any time soon. Also the question of salary, but that's getting better. I've been to some truly horrible interviews. I remember once a guy pretty much out and out asked me if I was into 'those underground basement clubs in the city' because I looked too 'severe' with my hair in a bun. I had to go through the rest of the interview after that - it was horrifying for me. But that wasn't even the worst one lol just one of many.
A fun mini-game is to see how badly you can blow the interview.
Some mini-issues.
1- The game is super short. But this is by design.
2- The game needs some context, I live in a region where 20/30k means nothing. So I guessed that 30k was high.
3- The recruiter is a bit of a charicature. Now don't get me wrong, he is a decent villain to both, but he should be more subtle in his discrimination. Maybe have a memo saying something like "we met our quota of women" on his desk before the interview.
4- This game gives me errors that my GPU is not powerful enough... WHAT THE CRAP? this is a slide-show game, I don't see OpenGL as a must. Please tone down the error message.
5- The audio continues to play after the game is closed. Very annoying.
Some have argued that private questions are illegal in an interview in many countries. Yes, in some countries they are, and yet they keep on being asked because the bargaining power is unbalanced. http://www.bbc.com/news/busine...
Pushes false agenda and narrative to be seen as fact and uses sources that purposely omit data with the intent of furthering a false narrative.
Excludes the fact that women are more likely to get a job due to gender quotas for the sake of helping its false narrative. 0/10 Would not suggest, it is in a sense, political propaganda.
This game would be interesting if it wasn't just a sexual bias, but characters from different ethnic, age and disability would make it much more interesting.
Hello asgaroth! Do you believe that the game is biased, that I am biased or that the reality of the labour market is biased?
Perhaps the answer I gave to the question whether it's possible or not to have the woman hired was vague on purpose because that is a crucial point of the game. Or, who knows, I am just very evil... :-) What's your guess?
I believe all three is possible. My guess would be that it's impossible to get the woman hired, so that's why I gave up, because I didn't see the woman succeed in any of the let's play I watched. But it was a good game, nonetheless!
I'm hugely flattered by finding this game listed on the 2016 highlights by Molleindustria (aka Paolo Pedercini) that puts «emphasis on politically-aware/ underrated/experimental works». Try the other games in the list, they're amazing and show how much room there is in this medium for reflection, satire, feelings, history and politics ("in a good sense"): http://www.molleindustria.org/blog/molleindustrias...
cool little title to demo the inequalities women face on the job market. I do respect the dev team giving this issue the spotlight which it certainly deserves, however, it's important to remember that IF the interviewer is not a sexist a-hole the outcome of an actual job interview will depend on factors that will have little to do with the gender of an applicant. Saying that the two applicants are exactly the same is like saying that two women weather the same outfit are the same. Clearly we're all different, even minor differences in qualifications can have an impact on the outcome of a job interview. One has to be very careful not to write it off as a gender-bias.
Still I completely agree with a point that female applicants are discriminated against with questions about current/future maternity which are wrapped in cute interviewer terms like family plans and marital status... as a working society we need to just deal with women having kids and companies need to accept it as part of work-life and just friggin pay for it, write it off as operational expenditure just as they do with a million other things.
Clearly the interviewer in this title is portrayed as very sexist and biased towards women which is NOT always the case... plenty of decent interviewers out there although unfortunately bad ones do come up. Not to nitpick at the design but the applicants are interviewing at two different companies and two different positions; general business consultancies are male-dominated (male applicants will have the edge here) at all levels while marketing/pr consultancies are female-dominated at all levels except for the C-suite, so a female applicant for a marketing position may actually have much better chances than her male competition.
Another factor that will benefit the female applicants is the 80% rule... at least in the US - so basically to avoid legal action from the DOL (which can be very costly) 20% of company staff has to be different from the other 80%, i.e. if a company has over 80% males it's time to hire some females to dilute the staff a little.
Bottom line is that if the hiring manager or the company policy is discriminatory towards females there's very little we can do (at least without a thorough legal investigation... which is expensive). Sexist managers are aware of just how difficult it is to legally combat sexist hiring practices and thus take full advantage of picking candidates that they approve of.
I'm convinced that to fix this issue as well as other gender bias issues we must teach our kids at home and at school to be accepting of others regardless of their differences.
I'm afraid you are over-optimistic about the marketing industry you picked as an example of a woman-friendly sector as far as hiring and wages are concerned. In some countries it might be the case, but there are injustices there as well, as this article indicates: http://prosar.com/2015/09/17/its-time-to-close-the...
The 80% rule sounds like a very weak barrier. 80-20 is still very unbalanced, and it does not necessarily solve the pay gap. I feel that there's a deeper, systemic issue at stake here.
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Ganar es imposible, pipipi
nice game
I'm not sure if this is intentional or a bug but while the game allows me to save any time I want there is no option to load a saved game file. I played on Linux.
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Thank you!
Actually, it's a bug but the bug is letting the players save their match. :-) It's so short it doesn't really make much sense. I should just disable the saving.
Of course I don't mind! That's great. We could make a version 1.5 integrating your translation as well if you are OK with that. I will need a few extra details such as your name for the credits. If you don't mind, we can do that together at the end of December, I'm pretty busy right now and I want to give you the time you deserve for your very kind effort.
Thank you again!
So much complaining in the comments, haha. I thought it was great! The ending cutscene was a nice touch.
Hmm... It's a little too simplistic. The sexism is often more nuanced than this. The two questions you got right are the marital status one - that question is always pretty much a way for employers to sneakily ask whether you're planning on taking maternity leave any time soon. Also the question of salary, but that's getting better. I've been to some truly horrible interviews. I remember once a guy pretty much out and out asked me if I was into 'those underground basement clubs in the city' because I looked too 'severe' with my hair in a bun. I had to go through the rest of the interview after that - it was horrifying for me. But that wasn't even the worst one lol just one of many.
The message of this game lost all of its strength and became anvilicious the moment I realized it is entirely impossible to get the woman hired.
the girl lost 5 times while the boy only lost once what the fuck is up
Super nifty way of expressing gender inequality. Loved it!
A fun mini-game is to see how badly you can blow the interview.
Some mini-issues.
1- The game is super short. But this is by design.
2- The game needs some context, I live in a region where 20/30k means nothing. So I guessed that 30k was high.
3- The recruiter is a bit of a charicature. Now don't get me wrong, he is a decent villain to both, but he should be more subtle in his discrimination. Maybe have a memo saying something like "we met our quota of women" on his desk before the interview.
4- This game gives me errors that my GPU is not powerful enough... WHAT THE CRAP? this is a slide-show game, I don't see OpenGL as a must. Please tone down the error message.
5- The audio continues to play after the game is closed. Very annoying.
I hope this feedback helps.
Some have argued that private questions are illegal in an interview in many countries. Yes, in some countries they are, and yet they keep on being asked because the bargaining power is unbalanced.
http://www.bbc.com/news/busine...
Pushes false agenda and narrative to be seen as fact and uses sources that purposely omit data with the intent of furthering a false narrative.
Excludes the fact that women are more likely to get a job due to gender quotas for the sake of helping its false narrative. 0/10 Would not suggest, it is in a sense, political propaganda.
The sources omit no data.
The "narrative" of gender bias can be "narrated" to you by any conscious woman of this planet.
Gender quotas don't exist in most countries of the world. In any case, I'm not in favour of the false solution of gender quotas FWIW.
Of course it is, in a sense, political propaganda.
Please, please, please don't "suggest" it. I don't want to have people like you supporting this game.
This game would be interesting if it wasn't just a sexual bias, but characters from different ethnic, age and disability would make it much more interesting.
Hello asgaroth!
Do you believe that the game is biased, that I am biased or that the reality of the labour market is biased?
Perhaps the answer I gave to the question whether it's possible or not to have the woman hired was vague on purpose because that is a crucial point of the game. Or, who knows, I am just very evil... :-) What's your guess?
I believe all three is possible. My guess would be that it's impossible to get the woman hired, so that's why I gave up, because I didn't see the woman succeed in any of the let's play I watched. But it was a good game, nonetheless!
Is it possible to get the girl to be hired as well?
Wage gap is a lie.
I have provided several stats to show that unfortunately it is not.
Please don't use this comment area for silly comments like this one.
I found this game funny. In a good way ofc. And i love this chill music.
I'm hugely flattered by finding this game listed on the 2016 highlights by Molleindustria (aka Paolo Pedercini) that puts «emphasis on politically-aware/ underrated/experimental works». Try the other games in the list, they're amazing and show how much room there is in this medium for reflection, satire, feelings, history and politics ("in a good sense"): http://www.molleindustria.org/blog/molleindustrias...
cool little title to demo the inequalities women face on the job market. I do respect the dev team giving this issue the spotlight which it certainly deserves, however, it's important to remember that IF the interviewer is not a sexist a-hole the outcome of an actual job interview will depend on factors that will have little to do with the gender of an applicant. Saying that the two applicants are exactly the same is like saying that two women weather the same outfit are the same. Clearly we're all different, even minor differences in qualifications can have an impact on the outcome of a job interview. One has to be very careful not to write it off as a gender-bias.
Still I completely agree with a point that female applicants are discriminated against with questions about current/future maternity which are wrapped in cute interviewer terms like family plans and marital status... as a working society we need to just deal with women having kids and companies need to accept it as part of work-life and just friggin pay for it, write it off as operational expenditure just as they do with a million other things.
Clearly the interviewer in this title is portrayed as very sexist and biased towards women which is NOT always the case... plenty of decent interviewers out there although unfortunately bad ones do come up. Not to nitpick at the design but the applicants are interviewing at two different companies and two different positions; general business consultancies are male-dominated (male applicants will have the edge here) at all levels while marketing/pr consultancies are female-dominated at all levels except for the C-suite, so a female applicant for a marketing position may actually have much better chances than her male competition.
Another factor that will benefit the female applicants is the 80% rule... at least in the US - so basically to avoid legal action from the DOL (which can be very costly) 20% of company staff has to be different from the other 80%, i.e. if a company has over 80% males it's time to hire some females to dilute the staff a little.
Bottom line is that if the hiring manager or the company policy is discriminatory towards females there's very little we can do (at least without a thorough legal investigation... which is expensive). Sexist managers are aware of just how difficult it is to legally combat sexist hiring practices and thus take full advantage of picking candidates that they approve of.
I'm convinced that to fix this issue as well as other gender bias issues we must teach our kids at home and at school to be accepting of others regardless of their differences.
I'm afraid you are over-optimistic about the marketing industry you picked as an example of a woman-friendly sector as far as hiring and wages are concerned. In some countries it might be the case, but there are injustices there as well, as this article indicates: http://prosar.com/2015/09/17/its-time-to-close-the...
The 80% rule sounds like a very weak barrier. 80-20 is still very unbalanced, and it does not necessarily solve the pay gap. I feel that there's a deeper, systemic issue at stake here.
How do you get the woman to get the job. No matter what I do she gets a C- Max.
Can Y'all help me? Thanks
What's your feeling about it?
I've tried multiple times but the woman never gets it. I like the game, but i feel like there should be a way for the woman to get it.
Aaand that's the point. The woman will never get the job. I've seen multiple studies and heard multiple accounts.
I really enjoyed the message behind this game because it is way too true
your game made me angrier than most things... but I think it was worth it. Thank you