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Hot red bath pool

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What do u mean by 'Hot red bath poo-WAAAAIIIT A MINUTE!!! OH NO! I LEFT CROC BOY OUTSIDE

Edit: I'm so sorry Sal but I wanted to see if what I thought he meant by it was true(PLS FORGIVE ME)

Vip pool :)



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Wait you all people Choose to kill Sal?

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Alright, so there wasn't a cliffhanger, good... Or was there? Yep, I was wrong. There was a cliffhanger. A hidden one but there was one. Well, here goes my lifeline. *pretend I cliff hanged myself because it's a joke*

P.S.: I hate cliffhangers. >:(

(and to make it even worth reading, I have to comment Day 12 because there's not much content about it here in the comments)

The story was okay. Actually, really well made. Better than I expected. 

*SPOILERS AHEAD! JUST SAYING*








(BTW if you don't understand my writings or there's a mistake, excuse my unawareness, my first writings never make sense and are full of mistakes, so I usually rewrite them the next day. This one is so far unedited)









Oswin's theory on diffrent timelines is really painful to read, especially that I don't want to continue. “You made a mistake. You shouldn't even be here. IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT.“ And it's true. If the player has a little sense, it's definitely hard to continue. But it's a part of the life, you make mistakes that you regret but you need to move forward in order to get more info, more of something to start understanding your decisions you've made (although you can just quit the game and start over but I'm getting of track, sorry).

I absolutely adore this day because it has so much replay value. Doing another run gives you quite a lot of new information that you would normally miss if you played in „normal circumstances.“ So. Much. Death. Really feel sorry for you Grizz, typing it all in must have been hard with 4 diffrent outcomes. You could also do a little behind the scenes one day or a speedpaint or anything else (just an idea, it could really slow you down actually, setting it up, managing it and editing it all... that's a lot of work for something that's not even helpful). Your drawings are very clean the last time I checked, less strokes are visible and helping lines are completely gone! And the last update is not the exception. Probably had more time I assume.

The last bit though... Oh, that got me good. Didn't know you will put Jack on the line that early (probably because I haven't made another theory and correct my last one from 5 months back). The running bit I figured, what else was there as an option when Jack the killer comes in to the main storyline. Although, I thought that it would be the same chase like on Day 14 but Tyson is with you. What a night.

I also started commenting on Dave exhausting himself and the day ending too early. The sudden slam to my face got me by surprise (Oswin waking up Dave). No words can describe just how funny it is to start commenting on something and then the game be like: „Stop right there! I can't take your pitiful sobing, just... here, have a little more, so you stop whining again.“ The little was a little but damn Grizz, you got me good. The leader of people's emotions, I like it!

But the Sal thing. Man, I so want to hug Sal and ensure him that everything is going to be okay. It's just sad making me think of him taking care of his plush watermelon. It's adorable but a bit lonely as well. Hugz.

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You say "Jack the killer."  After reading the day 14 story, Jack might not yet be murderer...the new day 12 of the other story line I agree that he is the murderer...but is he working alone?

There is the part that he asks you about the butler, and when you tell him he is alive and well, he gets gloomy...as if he was expecting him to be dead.

What I will give you is Jack definitely seems to be an evil character and could definitely be the cause of future killings.  He also is seen on the phone relaying information to someone (I assume someone in Orlando's family).

If anything, this tells me more that it is probably Orlando.

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You're completely right, my bad. It's just funny to call him as „the killer“ because it reminds me of „Jeff the killer.“ He is more as a hitman if any. He's not doing it because he wants to, he's paid to do it (as you already know). It must be a family the Hammond family had set against themselves. I have no clue what family it could be but I agree Orlando's family is a prime suspect with their „questionable acts and past.“ 

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I firmly assert that there's no cliffhangers as of yet. While yes, things might leave on a tense note, or perhaps leaving you wanting more, in any given update the immediate resolution of the scenes takes place. Even in Path C and D here with Dave going into the woods with Tyson.

A cliffhanger would be cutting to black as Dave's running through the woods and you don't know if he's escaped or not.

To clarify though, did you play through Day 14 as well?

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OK, it depends on how you put it. With the new information, maybe the question of Tyson presence isn't as much of a cliffhanger as I first thought. On one hand, it wants you to continue, to see what happened in the end. On the other hand, it's like the option with Sal. If you want him dead, he will kill himself. Or will he? Now we now that he WILL kill himself but before the update, it wasn't a cliffhanger but yet there was that feeling of you wanting to know Sal's presence even here. So I guess you're right.

Yes, I've played through Day 14. The ending could be a cliffhanger but for sure isn't a one. Yeah, the characters reference the next day as „a hard one“ but there's no proof, no event or basically anthing else that clearly concludes the day with information yet to be clarified. It's just emotional but reassuring that there's still HOPE among the group. Right? 

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Essentially.

I've said in the past that there'll be a total of one cliffhanger in the game's production given how/when it'll need to be done and what's feasible within one month's worth of work. If you think what we've seen so far is a cliffhanger, you have no idea given what's coming up.

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heart shattered when tyson said brother and everyone milked it 😭💀

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ESPECIALLY at the bad route where you cant Get the pass at day 10. It broked my heart where he said I love you then at day 12 where he and Dave go to the forrest then that GODDAMN!!! Rabbit(hare)  murdered him...

I think? Dave did hear a scream then got back to the mansion... I wish we get TY alive or wounded I just want them to have a good life like Oh my God!!


 

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The update is relatable

 (not the near death part) but the letting out your feelings part is extremely relatable


This is my fave vn now

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I cried so much while reading Day 14(Good Timeline) cuz my dad died the same way his dad did. I also played the Day 12(Bad Timeline) and it was tragic, to say the least. This by far is my No.1 fav vn. Thanks for the amazing work Grizz!!!

I am still crying after 21 hours of reading the novel btw

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Hugz to you.

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Thanks its relly appreciated

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Great now it's stuck in my head :'( i feel kinda sad knowing most of the humanity  Went through this same pain

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... I fucking bawled my eyes out because the dad part was too relatable...

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Same happened the same to mine ;-;

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I used up a whole roll of tissue paper trying to wipe the tears. I can relly relate to Dave especially since my Dad and his Dad has so many similarities. One, they're both police officers, two, they're both named David, and three, they're both dead ;-;

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UPDATE!!! YESSSSSSS

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Thank grizz <3

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YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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oh god, forgot today is the new update aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Oh shit, here we go again. For like 25th time? And there better not be another cliffhanger or I'm gonna cliff hang myself.

Damn ... Yeah me too

Still awake~

Sorry, wrong day

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—_—

I hate myself 

Im waiting~

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Yep I'm addicted to this game my top 1 rn <3

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This game is a ton of fun, and I cant wait until the next patch in a few days.

That being said, i have some theories as to who the murderer is.  If you have not done all of the scenarios as far as you can take them, some of this may come as a spoiler.

Note:  I am assuming for simplicity that the killer is the same in all scenarios.









Prime suspect - Jack

You may all recall the white thing in the woods.  Though we may not know exactly who/what it is then...it was most likely Jack.  We know he has been in the woods for about week, and he is a shady character.  He pulls a knife on Dave and chases him all the way to the mansion.  While he has not been visible in story that long...his unknown part in the story makes him a prime suspect. The knife he pulled could have been the one used to kill Hoss and Oswin, or have been in the Floor with Sal, and could have been used to slash up Tyson.  We also know there was an unknown figure in the mansion on the night Roswell dies.

One of the big incriminating clues that this will be the murderer is Oswin's Hansel and Gretel story.


Second suspect - Orlando

I know this is going to surprise a lot of people, but Orlando could be the killer in every scenario (even his own demise).  Looking at Orlando's backstory, his family is in the mafia, and his family is looking to have him take over the family business after the vacation is over.  Usually in the mob, there is some sort of "test" when handing this type of thing over.  His test could be to kill one (or all) of his friends.

When you talk with Thantanos in the lab, he talks about how they obtained DNA of Orlando's dad, which also means Orlando could be programmed into the Vault.

A lot of the bad endings and the investigations that come in the good endings hint that almost everyone would let their guard down around Orlando because he is trustworthy.

On top of that, he can be tied to every one of the killings:

Tyson - claw marks mauled the body.  Sal also watched the incident between Tyson and Dave leading up to Tyson storming off.  If Orlando found out from Sal, that gives more than enough motive.

Sal - He knew early on about Sal's sleepwalking (which is evident in the Sal story).  Orlando also knows the freezer sticks, has access to the knife that was in the floor.  The reason it still makes sense here is you pass Sal off to Orlando ONLY.  If Sal were to be found dead, the only suspect would be Orlando, so he backs out.

Hoss - after Tyson thinks he kills Hoss, and Dave heads down to check, Orlando is on the way to the gym.  Orlando also has the most access to the knives.

Roswell - while there are no direct clues here, Roswell says he'd be safest around Orlando and would willingly turn his back to him.

Dean - This one is the biggest clue for me.  Before Dean dies, he goes to feed Dave a mushroom and Orlando swats it out of his hand.  Dean then picks the mushroom off of the floor and eats it which leads to his death.

Orlando's ending - this one is a bit of a stretch...but here it goes.  Say Orlando was tasked to kill Dave and friends.  When Dave tries to buddy up with Orlando, Orlando decides it is not worth it to follow through and commits suicide.  He is also smiling which would indicate he was happy with his decision.  One of the other awkward parts to this is in the bad ending, the vault is OPEN!   

Oswin & Benson - There is no real evidence for or against any of the characters with regards to either of their bad endings.


Third suspect - Oswin (aka OZ)

The reason Oswin is one of my top suspects is because when you read the letters, some of them seem to apologize and he did not mean for these things to happen.  My guess that the first couple of deaths were "experiments" to test Morphic Resonance.  He also knows about all of the secret passageways and secret rooms, has the chemicals used to kill Dean and Orlando in his lab, and has the house bugged.  Benson also hints that we should not be too quick to trust Oswin.  He also has access to a gun (he fires at Jack), and has the air gun thing to inject chemicals into people (which would have been used to kill Orlando).


Potential other suspects: Dean and Roswell.

The argument I have seen for Dean (and could believe) is that he is the jealous boyfriend, and kills whoever swoops in on you.  Dean's death could be chalked up to an accident.  One interesting side note for Dean, is that in no scenarios except his own does he help in the investigation.

Roswell has a similar side as Dean, except instead of boyfriend, he wants Dave as his absolute best friend.  He talks about wanting things to be the way they used to be (when he was Dave's only friend).  He also seems to be incredibly knowledgeable about just about any scenario. He knows the chemical to kill Orlando, about dangerous mushrooms that kill Dean, and about Hypnos (who controls Sal while sleepwalking).  He also was near the room when Hoss was found stabbed.  He also seems to know  about Oswin before he comes out (it cannot be coincidence they are both boars).  I believe there is also a reference that Florencia might be Roswell's mother.

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WOW!!! That is some amazing background research there. This somehow makes more sense of everything that's happened in the story's current build and also gave the possibility that almost everyone of them(except for Sal and Tyson) could've been the killer all along before Jack even popped out of the woods.

P.S. Hoss should also be in that list of potential suspects since Hoss could've used his ability to lie to his own advantage. For example, both him and Benson could've probably lied to you about their "deal" and Benson could've been helping Hoss kill them all(meaning Benson could be a suspect too).

Also by a few days, u mean tomorrow right? cuz the game updates every 15th of the month if u didn't know and last time I checked, today is the 14th of November.

If you take into account all routes the fact that everyone can die rather removes alot of suspects. Also pretty sure there's a second rat named hypnos that is thanatos's brother and thats who's been able to steal from the lab, move around unseen and talking to sal in the night. Having both thanatos and hypnos as names can't be just coincidence considering their mythology. Also would be fitting with the way oz talks about his sister as her being the most forceful out of the three since in the mythos its thanatos and hypnos sisters who are all about violent death.

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 so 'hypnos' really is another rat. And that's how sal doesnt see a face when he talks to it/him.

Just a theory but you dont use the name of two greek gods who are also siblings by accident and it would answer some problems.

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Dean actually ticked my susometer to an 11.


The fact that he talked about using climbing gear to scale the walls of the maze connects to how the frick did someone climb the museum's bookshelves. And when sal mentioned that dean had a hunting knife is just weird but that answered some of my questions when jack appeared with a hunting knife. Plus guilt. So when dean got poisoned he apologized for something.

 (Maybe becuz he didnt wash his hands or he didnt notice the ammonia)

Maybe guilt took over him to commit suicide because roswell mentioned if he died that quick he would have to eat more deathcaps to speed it up.

So suicide because of guilt?

Maybe im going to a dead end here cuz dean seems to be gentle at most. And im going to get shot out the airlock at this point. Btw i was with pink in electrical 

:P

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Haha imagine seeing orlando die again even with the code :')

That's rough buddy

P.S. dont follow the dragon boi to the basement

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An update in 2 days. FINALLY MY INSOMNIA HAS USES(there will be no sleep)

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Tyson in the shower -0_0-

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Evreytime Dave fails to use the password:

My inner DR Fan: *Insert Danganronpa body discovery music* *Ding Dong Ding ding*Monokuma: A Body Has been discovered!

rightttttt

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I I can't figure out Orlando's password for day 7 can I get a clue?     

Edit: nevermind I figured it out

Next update coming in less than 2 weeks! SO EXCITED

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Hi guys can anyone give me at least a hint on day 10 - 11... Please? Thanks

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its hidden in plain sight and in red

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you said that a lot of a lot of times already, didn't you?

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only about 3 or 4 time other people usually say the same thing, theres not really much you can say about it for day 11

day 10s rather self explanatory with the hints dave gives at the vault when he goes over what he's learned 'what is the worse case senario' is truely the best hint so you can't really add much to it 

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yup

I finally got hoss' cg

Did someone has the full soundtrack? I loved it and i want to download it.

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I haven't released it yet as some of the tracks are still need remastering.

Yeah, about that, I wanted to ask, why is the 'Sleepless' soundtrack so low in volume? I actually needed to max my laptop's volume in order to hear it properly.

Sounds fine to me compared to something like Not Dead Yet. Sleepless is meant to be a slightly softer song anyway but I'm not noticing any notable difference in volume with my settings at 50%.

I'm still trying to figure out the password for days 7 and 8

Welp to make things short, there are 3 of them, in which case 2 of them leads to a diff. bad ending while you need to find the other password in the different ending.

Clue: Roswell says the password the most in the diff. ending

did any now tyson day 11 password 

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The password on day 11 is universal, and if you’ve seen the lab scene, you can’t miss it

Do you know his day 7 password because I've been struggling with it alot..

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While I can’t just give it to you, I can point you in the right direction....on day 7, if Tyson dies, use the big red word in his epilogue in the vault on day 6 to save his life...once you do that, you’ll get a new scene and it’ll be pretty direct on if you wanna save him...if Benson dies on day 7, think about what Dave says about what the entire scene looked like. Hope this helps

Is there a password for oswin?

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dont tell people about him

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Can we just appreciate the soundtrack in the game? Something I started to take note of. And so I heard there will be more in the next update, so really excited to listen to them as well! 

(probably my most favourite track is Fatherhood, maybe how out of place, yet quiet it is)

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I really appreciate them,  they are so good and make me chill,  my favorite are soft walk,  fatherhood and remniscent(piano) ,  and always listen to them everyday. 

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I love these because they comfort me during my sad days: Purposed Stroll, Fatherhood, and Moonlight

How do I get the good ending(s) for Dean?

There are no endings yet, but as long as he’s alive, you’re good

Well how do I keep him alive?

Where is he dying for you?

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The Greenhouse via mushroom

If he dies there, then you need to go through the epilogue when he dies to get his password. It’s in bold red text so you can’t miss it...enter his password on day 6 when given the choice to go to the vault and you’ll get your desired result🐊

Find passwords in the text and use them in the vault, the first one is in the bad end.

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Technically there's no good ending yet, you have two paths, good one and bad one.


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You meant that he's dying from Sal hand? Or his first death? then yeah you can save him.. I won't gonna give you the password, but one clue.. Find a proper word for a thing that Sal does on Day 11 and you'll be on a good path. 

Second clue that word is hidden on a Sal path as well in one of hia conversation with Dave. 

Playing this game for year and still can't figure out how to unlock Hoss's second CG, try looking for a hint online and on itch's comment section. Sooo please give me a hint :') 

get high affection with him, you cant miss a single convosation with him

Ah yes, that's the thing I kept trying for year, but thank you anyway.

Basically spend ALL of your time with him. If the choice includes Hoss, do it, no if , and, or buts

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I finally got it yesterday, Apperenly all I need to do is named coffe cup from the start as 'Hoss' lol

Actually, no, you just have to spend all the possible time with him from the very first choice

how do you get roswell's 4th cg?

just playing his route its a natural progression one

just get to Day 10 and you'll see it at the start of the day

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Go to vault

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Spend time with sal and you need to get scene at pool where He  will hug you back anything else i would need to try again

How do i get the scene where he hugs you back at the pool again? I can't get it for some reason.

Spend all your time with Sal and successfully get the password correct at Day 10 vault 

day 10 go with sal to the vault and use the password

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There is a password for day 10, current build goes up to day 13 i think.Its said during the day, the hints you get at the vault are the best for trying to find it after all what is the worst possible outcome? 

If you're only playing on Sal's route, you likely won't find it. It's there but it's nowhere near as obvious as it's impossible to get on Path C and D on Sal's route.

anyone know how to unlock Hoss' third CG? can't seem to find it.

just play hoss's route its just a natural one with no conditions im pretty sure.

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Hey I'm curious but is their a word for Benson's death because no matter how hard I look I just can't find a word for this man and it's annoying. Also I love your game creator. UwU

Theres 3 passwords for benson, look for them in his bad endings they're hidden in the dialogue of his bad endings.

i am curious if there are any working passwords before the lead up to the first bad end

i should specify i mean during day 2-3 when you can go look at the vault

Short answer: no

Long answer: I dunno

I'm losing my mind can someone give me hint about Benson's password?

there's 3 if you found the first put it in and then read carefully what roswel says

Where do i look for these 3 in the first place as I'm still confused

You find one in each of the bad ends hidden in the dialogue. If you need help grizz did put something in hoss route and orlandos that can help.

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Max affection and spend all your time with him, you cant miss a single dialog with him pretty much.

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think it by high affection with dean and unlocking the kiss option

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Is Tyson have a good ending? D: I just have bad ending TT

it is possible to have everyone alive at the end of the current build, you need passwords to use a the vault to save characters. First password is in the bad ending watch it all the way through so you can find it.

Aaaaah thanks <3

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