I have good news for you, it is confirmed that TSR will have good endings, although what does it mean in this case is unknown. I will probably cry anyway ;)
I don't know how you pulled it off but this game's story is absolutely perfect; It manages to make me laugh, cry, be horny, and be scared shitless all at once and it just blends together so well.
My biggest wish since I started reading this amazing story (regardless of the route) was fulfilled in this build 19. In my dreams it would be william instead of cliff in the animated video, but it was just perfect anyway. Thank you creators. Every second was perfect. It thrilled me.
Build 19 has to be my favorite update so far. The short music video, the music, the new UI, the plot. I didn't expect the perspective to change so quickly. It's safe to assume this will be a continuing trend within the other routes as well. I do miss Samuel's monologues because his commentary always had that pessimistic vibe to it.
Props off to the music video, it was so frickennnn adorable and catchy. Seriously, I don't think I've ever fangirled this hard before.
Cliff's route is currently setting itself up from what I read. The town's clergy, the townsfolk, Jeb's suspicion on the town, the atmosphere, everything was pretty good.
10/10! The wait was well worth it. See you guys next time when Arches Build 5 releases to the publc.
Some errors I found: On William's route, closing the notebook causes an error regarding the previous music volume, and on Nik's route, the red tracing overlay for the map don't really work, I think it's something to do with the image's format
Just found a bug in this new version. Everytime I open the notebook on Williams route and close it. The error message a exception has occurred popped up. Just thought I'd mention it
Re: The Smoke Room - Build 19: Rocks of Sombre Hue
Literary References:
Title: 'A Picture' - Olivia Ward Bush-Banks.
Build Art: 'The maner of kynges, from the Secretum Secretorum' - psuedo-Aristotle.
[MAJOR SPOILER WARNINGS FOR BUILD 19 BELOW]
A Brief Summary:
This build (in my playthrough) proceeds the Cliff/Murdoch/Sam intercourse scene, picking up with the trio finishing up their bath and overhearing Avery and Jeb talking to each other, it's been quite a while since they've seen each other, I believe this is romantical in nature, and like the trio were up for some more explicit activities while bathing. Causing Murdoch to shout if anyone is there, in which Avery and Jeb present themselves and say that they were going to bathe. Then the trio heads back to camp to see Ed with a horribly-untuned guitar and which Murdoch proceeds to tune the guitar and play a song, which results in my favorite part of the build, an animatic with music reminiscent of hoedown/square-dancing, this concludes Clifford: Chapter II. Thus begins Clifford: Chapter III, starting right off with the past and perspective of Cornelis van Houwelinck (Clifford Tibbits), speaking to his grandfather while painting, they talk about how things has significantly changed after his mother's passing. Proceeding this, Cliff wakes up beside a naked Sam, and Murdoch who is outside of the tent urges them to get up. [In my playthrough], Cliff discovers Sam's has taken the map that Avery lent and questions him about it. Sam, obviously startled asks Cliff not to tell Avery about what has happened, Cliff obliges while monologuing his doubts and how he will have to think long and hard on his decisions about Sam and the map later. The build shortly ends after arriving in the Meseta settlement, to suspect quiet and even more suspect introduction of Reverend Caldwell (Clifford's contact).
Thoughts & Opinions:
I really enjoyed this build personally and I think it's one of my favorite builds to be released for The Smoke Room yet. It was on the short side, but the payoff was definitely worth it. Especially the animatic, (correct me if I'm wrong), I believe this was animated by @ShtarFish and huge shout outs towards him and the rest of EchoProject for bringing this build all together, it's a wonderful, sorrowful read as always, I love all the work y'all put into these builds. I love the new HUD we have for the VN now, it adds a whole new flavor to the experience. I was expecting another perspective change after 'And They Tell Me You Are Brutal' but didn't quite expect to see another one so soon. While I love reading over Sam's monologuing and his overall loner, self-depreciating personality, I like the change of pace the perspective changes do, gives us more background on Cliff's thoughts and ideals. I hope we get more animatics in future builds, but that is just my propitious wish towards things. It takes a long time for such things, and this one in particular is special enough so it's enough to be sated.
This was the shit...in a good way. The beginning was a little confusing (probably because i was playing at night after having worked a 12 hour shift) but i fell in love with the characters. Easy 9 out of 10 for me. I will admit I wish there was more sexual content involved especially considering the main characters job, but I'm a pervert. I can never have enough of the sex stuff lol. Point is, awesome game.
Ive been having issues installing the android version since .16. I have more than enough space a bit less than a tb And deleting the whole app and reinstalling doesnt help can someone help me please?
I just need to know if this game its complete? I play the Nik route but men idk of this the true route or im missing sometimg or i just need to play the other routes... anyone can help? Btw the history is so f word good! I llve it but i didnt know it has so many NSFW moments (i love it) but still nice and awesome!
I'll be honest after playing echo, route 65 and arches I wasn't really expecting to love this as much as the others and while not my favorite (I stick more to modern time horror stories) I end up falling in love with the setting and characters
Even characters I thought I wouldn't like much ended up falling into my favorite category
Im new to this game but it says "If it isnt, check your pop up blocker"? So maybe your pop up blocker is on. If it still doesnt work maybe try using a vpn??? Idrkkk
- happens most times while in the middle of downloading, so if problem persists, try downloading Joiplay and the renpy plugin for it (both can be found in the playstore) then download the pc version if there is one.
Check to see if your anti-virus software is preventing the download.
Is the issue that you can't download, or you just can't install?
For me, I can't install the updates on my tablet unless I uninstall the previous version. The only downside is that I lose all of my save data...which is completely fine (not really) since I want to revisit the routes in the future. I may as well wait for The Echo Project to complete the VN within the next several years if my only recourse to updating TSR is to uninstall previous versions...as well as my progress...
global name 'journal_music_previous_volume' is not defined
Seems like problem happends here!
It should execute musicJournalPlay before musicJournalStop's execution.
Key Point!
global journal_music_previous_volume
journal_music_previous_volume = preferences.get_volume("music")
This operation will set journal_music_previous_volume to preferences.get_volume("music"),
Seems like it is a Use-before-Initialization (UBI) bug.Contact developers or just add this to games/screens.rpy:
journal_music_previous_volume = 100
It should be like this after injection:
...Then you can just repack and resign APK file(Android platform tools required).If game/screens.rpyc exists,you can delete it(but nothing will happened).
It works on my PC but I have not tested on my Android Phone.Hope it works.
How to sign an Android Package(APK)?
Check this.(Google...Android manual is your friend.)
APP is not installed
Check these solutions:
Turn on Unknown Sources(Settings > Security > Unknown Sources).
Turn off Google Play Protect(Google Play Store > Profile > Play Protect > Settings > Scan apps with Play Protect)
I wanna get Android version build more faster
You can build it manually!I will show you steps and you can do it by yourself!
Download the Microsoft Windows version of the game.
Step 3.
Open the game's folder in File Explorer.
Select all items of the game's folder,and press Ctrl+C.
Step 4.
Open "the_question" folder of the Ren'Py SDK,and press Ctrl+V.Replace all files,do not skip.
Step 5.
Open Ren'Py Editor GUI(renpy.exe) and click "Android".
Download RAPT.Follow the guide.
Step 6.
After restarting,reclick "Android".
You can review the project by clicking "Phone","Tablet" or "Television".When you ready,click "Install SDK & Create Keys"(if you already do this,jump to Step 7).
You should see this:
Click "Yes".Then you will see this,input your nickname,your favourite character's name,or something else.
That's OK.Click "Continue",then "Yes".
What?A bundle signing key?I don't need that.Click "No",then "Continue".
Step 7.
Click "Configure".(if you already do that,jump to Step 8.)
Ren'Py will ask you for the game's name.Just click "Continue",then "Continue".
Slight bug but it throws an error when exiting Will's notebook on Android.
Full traceback below
While running game code: File "renpy/common/00gamemenu.rpy", line 173, in <module> File "renpy/common/00action_other.rpy", line 537, in __call__ File "game/screens.rpy", line 1568, in musicJournalStop
NameError: global name 'journal_music_previous_volume' is not defined
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback: File "00gamemenu.rpyc", line 173, in script File "renpy/ast.py", line 928, in execute File "renpy/python.py", line 2245, in py_exec_bytecode File "renpy/common/00gamemenu.rpy", line 173, in <module> File "renpy/ui.py", line 298, in interact File "renpy/display\core.py", line 3327, in interact File "renpy/display\core.py", line 945, in replace_transient File "renpy/display\core.py", line 1261, in remove File "renpy/display\core.py", line 1175, in hide_or_replace File "renpy/display\screen.py", line 515, in _hide File "renpy/display\behavior.py", line 2388, in set_transform_event File "renpy/display\behavior.py", line 322, in run File "renpy/display\behavior.py", line 329, in run File "renpy/common/00action_other.rpy", line 537, in __call__ File "game/screens.rpy", line 1568, in musicJournalStop
NameError: global name 'journal_music_previous_volume' is not defined
Kinda new to these kinds of visual novels. Is there anyway to update the game by a patch rather than downloading it again. I don't have a lot of space on my laptop so redownloading games isn't really feasible.
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I know that the VN isn't finished yet but please tell me cliff gets a good ending:(
I have good news for you, it is confirmed that TSR will have good endings, although what does it mean in this case is unknown. I will probably cry anyway ;)
I'm glad to know, because they all deserve to be happy!
Each routes will have their own good and bad ending :)
Potential Spoiler:
How long has that face been there when talking with William on Cliff's route???? (Before they leave) 🤔🤔😱😱
it has been there even before the updates
I haven't noticed until now, that's freaky. 😱😱😱
I don't know how you pulled it off but this game's story is absolutely perfect; It manages to make me laugh, cry, be horny, and be scared shitless all at once and it just blends together so well.
Quick summary of the plot: Be gay; Do Crimes
My biggest wish since I started reading this amazing story (regardless of the route) was fulfilled in this build 19. In my dreams it would be william instead of cliff in the animated video, but it was just perfect anyway. Thank you creators. Every second was perfect. It thrilled me.
the writers confirmed that eventually there'll be an animatic for each route, we just gotta be patient!
Everybody will get an animatic eventually!
-George
OMG! I am so fucking happy now. Thanks, guys <3
Can you miss the animatic? I didn't see one during Cliff's route
this appears at the end of chapter 2
really interested when Nik will get an updat
I think build 21 is the next nik's update
build 19
yeah go ahead give us some awesome hearth warming trinkets before you break us the same way you did in echo
YOU CANT TRICK ME TWICE!!!
ho am i kidding?
I didn't write any of echo but noted, haha.
-George
yeah i figure but still have that same vibe
Similar in some ways, drastically different in others is the goal.
-George
Do you see the wabbits, George?
Spoilers
Build 19 has to be my favorite update so far. The short music video, the music, the new UI, the plot. I didn't expect the perspective to change so quickly. It's safe to assume this will be a continuing trend within the other routes as well. I do miss Samuel's monologues because his commentary always had that pessimistic vibe to it.
Props off to the music video, it was so frickennnn adorable and catchy. Seriously, I don't think I've ever fangirled this hard before.
Cliff's route is currently setting itself up from what I read. The town's clergy, the townsfolk, Jeb's suspicion on the town, the atmosphere, everything was pretty good.
10/10! The wait was well worth it. See you guys next time when Arches Build 5 releases to the publc.
Some errors I found: On William's route, closing the notebook causes an error regarding the previous music volume, and on Nik's route, the red tracing overlay for the map don't really work, I think it's something to do with the image's format
Sad. There's no update on Android yet
I think its just harder to make since he has to convert it to files using android it shouldn't be too much longer
Please read the devlog. We are begging you. Lol.
-George
i estimate that TSR is about 45-50% completed
its the same for me to it says an error when the notebook is being closed
(using the windows ver. btw)
Im addicted to the Animatic song
Just found a bug in this new version. Everytime I open the notebook on Williams route and close it. The error message a exception has occurred popped up. Just thought I'd mention it
Re: The Smoke Room - Build 19: Rocks of Sombre Hue
Literary References:
Title: 'A Picture' - Olivia Ward Bush-Banks.
Build Art: 'The maner of kynges, from the Secretum Secretorum' - psuedo-Aristotle.
[MAJOR SPOILER WARNINGS FOR BUILD 19 BELOW]
A Brief Summary:
This build (in my playthrough) proceeds the Cliff/Murdoch/Sam intercourse scene, picking up with the trio finishing up their bath and overhearing Avery and Jeb talking to each other, it's been quite a while since they've seen each other, I believe this is romantical in nature, and like the trio were up for some more explicit activities while bathing. Causing Murdoch to shout if anyone is there, in which Avery and Jeb present themselves and say that they were going to bathe. Then the trio heads back to camp to see Ed with a horribly-untuned guitar and which Murdoch proceeds to tune the guitar and play a song, which results in my favorite part of the build, an animatic with music reminiscent of hoedown/square-dancing, this concludes Clifford: Chapter II. Thus begins Clifford: Chapter III, starting right off with the past and perspective of Cornelis van Houwelinck (Clifford Tibbits), speaking to his grandfather while painting, they talk about how things has significantly changed after his mother's passing. Proceeding this, Cliff wakes up beside a naked Sam, and Murdoch who is outside of the tent urges them to get up. [In my playthrough], Cliff discovers Sam's has taken the map that Avery lent and questions him about it. Sam, obviously startled asks Cliff not to tell Avery about what has happened, Cliff obliges while monologuing his doubts and how he will have to think long and hard on his decisions about Sam and the map later. The build shortly ends after arriving in the Meseta settlement, to suspect quiet and even more suspect introduction of Reverend Caldwell (Clifford's contact).
Thoughts & Opinions:
I really enjoyed this build personally and I think it's one of my favorite builds to be released for The Smoke Room yet. It was on the short side, but the payoff was definitely worth it. Especially the animatic, (correct me if I'm wrong), I believe this was animated by @ShtarFish and huge shout outs towards him and the rest of EchoProject for bringing this build all together, it's a wonderful, sorrowful read as always, I love all the work y'all put into these builds. I love the new HUD we have for the VN now, it adds a whole new flavor to the experience. I was expecting another perspective change after 'And They Tell Me You Are Brutal' but didn't quite expect to see another one so soon. While I love reading over Sam's monologuing and his overall loner, self-depreciating personality, I like the change of pace the perspective changes do, gives us more background on Cliff's thoughts and ideals. I hope we get more animatics in future builds, but that is just my propitious wish towards things. It takes a long time for such things, and this one in particular is special enough so it's enough to be sated.
Overall Rating:
10/10
~NotEvenParan0id
Furniture of the Golden Witch
[VERY GOOOOOD]
<Very good>!! This level of reasoning is possible for Furudo Erika. What do you think, everyone?
wow build 19! what a show! x3
I hope we get a update soon, hopefully a Murdoch update
Cliff is the next
Heeeeey everyone, is there a way to prevent the game from crashing?
When is Public Build 19 coming out? I'm not trying to rush here but I'm just curious.
it has been available for patreon for almost a month :/
Can't wait to read more!
This was the shit...in a good way. The beginning was a little confusing (probably because i was playing at night after having worked a 12 hour shift) but i fell in love with the characters. Easy 9 out of 10 for me. I will admit I wish there was more sexual content involved especially considering the main characters job, but I'm a pervert. I can never have enough of the sex stuff lol. Point is, awesome game.
Updates on the patreon near the end of this month, then goes up on itchio 2 weeks later.
--George
waiting for the new chapters)
they should only be about a month, give or take!
Ive been having issues installing the android version since .16. I have more than enough space a bit less than a tb And deleting the whole app and reinstalling doesnt help can someone help me please?
I just need to know if this game its complete? I play the Nik route but men idk of this the true route or im missing sometimg or i just need to play the other routes... anyone can help? Btw the history is so f word good! I llve it but i didnt know it has so many NSFW moments (i love it) but still nice and awesome!
Idk why I really don't know why but whenever I see Sam it's like he's staring into my soul
He scares THE HELL out of me
He freaks me out even more than the things that were supposed to His personality and appearance are disturbing to me and idk why but I still like him
Am I crazy?
Considering what he becomes in echo, that fits perfectly lol
I'll be honest after playing echo, route 65 and arches I wasn't really expecting to love this as much as the others and while not my favorite (I stick more to modern time horror stories) I end up falling in love with the setting and characters
Even characters I thought I wouldn't like much ended up falling into my favorite category
TOO SWEET!
Why can't I download the android version? When I always click download, it still wouldn't download.
Im new to this game but it says "If it isnt, check your pop up blocker"? So maybe your pop up blocker is on. If it still doesnt work maybe try using a vpn??? Idrkkk
Already did and it still didn't work.
I cant download it aswell but when i turned off my pop up blocker and turned on my vpn, it worked sooo
Hmm,
- free up space if you're low on it
- happens most times while in the middle of downloading, so if problem persists, try downloading Joiplay and the renpy plugin for it (both can be found in the playstore) then download the pc version if there is one.
A bit more steps but gets the job done.
Check to see if your anti-virus software is preventing the download.
Is the issue that you can't download, or you just can't install?
For me, I can't install the updates on my tablet unless I uninstall the previous version. The only downside is that I lose all of my save data...which is completely fine (not really) since I want to revisit the routes in the future. I may as well wait for The Echo Project to complete the VN within the next several years if my only recourse to updating TSR is to uninstall previous versions...as well as my progress...
Good luck to us both!
For PC:
1)Microsoft Smartscreen sometimes prevents you from downloading.
Search "how to turn off SmartScreen" at Google.
2)Press F12 or Ctrl+Shift+I to turn on "Developer Tools".
Switch to "Console" and contact developers of the itch.io if there are some Javascript errors.
For Android:
1)Switch your browser to Chrome,Firefox or Edge and retry.
2)Turn on your VPN.
3)Ask someone to help you download.
Wow the first 30mn is kinda dark tho... also I didn't expect the NSFW scene with William that soon hahaha
Still reading it step by step, word by word...
And I can't believe the game teaching me how to play Poker... LOL
Loving it so far. 😁
Have you played the other Echo games? 🤔🤔
Already finished Adastra, the rest are still in progress. Since The Smoke Room is a prequel to Echo, I'll keep Echo for later on... Hehehe
Kane is just... I want Kane route!
True, he was good not gonna lie. I hope we see him in the Nik route.
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global name 'journal_music_previous_volume' is not defined
Seems like problem happends here!
It should execute musicJournalPlay before musicJournalStop's execution.
Key Point!
global journal_music_previous_volume journal_music_previous_volume = preferences.get_volume("music")This operation will set journal_music_previous_volume to preferences.get_volume("music"),
Seems like it is a Use-before-Initialization (UBI) bug.Contact developers or just add this to games/screens.rpy:
It should be like this after injection:
It works on my PC but I have not tested on my Android Phone.Hope it works.
How to sign an Android Package(APK)?
Check this.(Google...Android manual is your friend.)
APP is not installed
Check these solutions:
I wanna get Android version build more faster
You can build it manually!I will show you steps and you can do it by yourself!
Step 1.
Download the latest Ren'Py at Ren'Py 7.4.10 (renpy.org).
Step 2.
Download the Microsoft Windows version of the game.
Step 3.
Open the game's folder in File Explorer.
Select all items of the game's folder,and press Ctrl+C.
Step 4.
Open "the_question" folder of the Ren'Py SDK,and press Ctrl+V.Replace all files,do not skip.
Step 5.
Open Ren'Py Editor GUI(renpy.exe) and click "Android".
Step 6.
After restarting,reclick "Android".
You can review the project by clicking "Phone","Tablet" or "Television".When you ready,click "Install SDK & Create Keys"(if you already do this,jump to Step 7).
You should see this:
Click "Yes".Then you will see this,input your nickname,your favourite character's name,or something else.
That's OK.Click "Continue",then "Yes".
What?A bundle signing key?I don't need that.Click "No",then "Continue".
Step 7.
Click "Configure".(if you already do that,jump to Step 8.)
Ren'Py will ask you for the game's name.Just click "Continue",then "Continue".
What?The name of the package?Okay.
Try this:
(Replace "arches" to your game's name.)
Well done!Click "Continue",then "Continue" again.
RAM?Next one.Click "Continue",then "Continue" again.
Automaticlly update Java Source Code?Not today.Just click "Continue".(Stop annoying me!)
Step 8.
Finally.cLiCk "bUiLd PaCkAgE"!Then you can leave for a while.It is too slow on my laptop :/
Well done :)
Ren'Py will open the File Explorer.And,the signed APK is already there!Transfer the APK to your phone and just enjoy it :p
Faster than you expected :)
But I think it is too slow :(
im chinese and my Chinglish is so bad :(((
Thank you!
But yeah, this really helps
Slight bug but it throws an error when exiting Will's notebook on Android.
Full traceback below
While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00gamemenu.rpy", line 173, in <module>
File "renpy/common/00action_other.rpy", line 537, in __call__
File "game/screens.rpy", line 1568, in musicJournalStop
NameError: global name 'journal_music_previous_volume' is not defined
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "00gamemenu.rpyc", line 173, in script
File "renpy/ast.py", line 928, in execute
File "renpy/python.py", line 2245, in py_exec_bytecode
File "renpy/common/00gamemenu.rpy", line 173, in <module>
File "renpy/ui.py", line 298, in interact
File "renpy/display\core.py", line 3327, in interact
File "renpy/display\core.py", line 945, in replace_transient
File "renpy/display\core.py", line 1261, in remove
File "renpy/display\core.py", line 1175, in hide_or_replace
File "renpy/display\screen.py", line 515, in _hide
File "renpy/display\behavior.py", line 2388, in set_transform_event
File "renpy/display\behavior.py", line 322, in run
File "renpy/display\behavior.py", line 329, in run
File "renpy/common/00action_other.rpy", line 537, in __call__
File "game/screens.rpy", line 1568, in musicJournalStop
NameError: global name 'journal_music_previous_volume' is not defined
I can't play the game "This app is built for an older version of Android" Is there anything I can do about this? 😭
Kinda new to these kinds of visual novels. Is there anyway to update the game by a patch rather than downloading it again. I don't have a lot of space on my laptop so redownloading games isn't really feasible.
You can just delete the older versions
Any way to copy the save folder into the new version so I dont have to start from the beginning?
I'm not sure.
I keep trying to download build 18 for android but when I attempt to install it it shows 'app not installed'
I've tried deleting my tsr app and all sorts but it still hasn't worked
Hello Echo Project I am having an issue with the Android build, where the UI is overlapping itself. Is there a fix for that? 🤔🤔
You were able to download it? When I try it says 'app not installed' do you know how to get past that?
I uninstalled it then installed it, bad news is that you lose all your saves. 😥😥😥
It usually says app not installed when there is not enough space on your phone, just clear up 1 gig or 2 and try again
I have the same problem. Also, it causes an error popup when using Will's notebook.