This was the shit...in a good way. The beginning was a little confusing (probably because i was playing at night after having worked a 12 hour shift) but i fell in love with the characters. Easy 9 out of 10 for me. I will admit I wish there was more sexual content involved especially considering the main characters job, but I'm a pervert. I can never have enough of the sex stuff lol. Point is, awesome game.
Ive been having issues installing the android version since .16. I have more than enough space a bit less than a tb And deleting the whole app and reinstalling doesnt help can someone help me please?
I just need to know if this game its complete? I play the Nik route but men idk of this the true route or im missing sometimg or i just need to play the other routes... anyone can help? Btw the history is so f word good! I llve it but i didnt know it has so many NSFW moments (i love it) but still nice and awesome!
I'll be honest after playing echo, route 65 and arches I wasn't really expecting to love this as much as the others and while not my favorite (I stick more to modern time horror stories) I end up falling in love with the setting and characters
Even characters I thought I wouldn't like much ended up falling into my favorite category
Im new to this game but it says "If it isnt, check your pop up blocker"? So maybe your pop up blocker is on. If it still doesnt work maybe try using a vpn??? Idrkkk
- happens most times while in the middle of downloading, so if problem persists, try downloading Joiplay and the renpy plugin for it (both can be found in the playstore) then download the pc version if there is one.
Check to see if your anti-virus software is preventing the download.
Is the issue that you can't download, or you just can't install?
For me, I can't install the updates on my tablet unless I uninstall the previous version. The only downside is that I lose all of my save data...which is completely fine (not really) since I want to revisit the routes in the future. I may as well wait for The Echo Project to complete the VN within the next several years if my only recourse to updating TSR is to uninstall previous versions...as well as my progress...
global name 'journal_music_previous_volume' is not defined
Seems like problem happends here!
It should execute musicJournalPlay before musicJournalStop's execution.
Key Point!
global journal_music_previous_volume
journal_music_previous_volume = preferences.get_volume("music")
This operation will set journal_music_previous_volume to preferences.get_volume("music"),
Seems like it is a Use-before-Initialization (UBI) bug.Contact developers or just add this to games/screens.rpy:
journal_music_previous_volume = 100
It should be like this after injection:
...Then you can just repack and resign APK file(Android platform tools required).If game/screens.rpyc exists,you can delete it(but nothing will happened).
It works on my PC but I have not tested on my Android Phone.Hope it works.
How to sign an Android Package(APK)?
Check this.(Google...Android manual is your friend.)
APP is not installed
Check these solutions:
Turn on Unknown Sources(Settings > Security > Unknown Sources).
Turn off Google Play Protect(Google Play Store > Profile > Play Protect > Settings > Scan apps with Play Protect)
I wanna get Android version build more faster
You can build it manually!I will show you steps and you can do it by yourself!
Download the Microsoft Windows version of the game.
Step 3.
Open the game's folder in File Explorer.
Select all items of the game's folder,and press Ctrl+C.
Step 4.
Open "the_question" folder of the Ren'Py SDK,and press Ctrl+V.Replace all files,do not skip.
Step 5.
Open Ren'Py Editor GUI(renpy.exe) and click "Android".
Download RAPT.Follow the guide.
Step 6.
After restarting,reclick "Android".
You can review the project by clicking "Phone","Tablet" or "Television".When you ready,click "Install SDK & Create Keys"(if you already do this,jump to Step 7).
You should see this:
Click "Yes".Then you will see this,input your nickname,your favourite character's name,or something else.
That's OK.Click "Continue",then "Yes".
What?A bundle signing key?I don't need that.Click "No",then "Continue".
Step 7.
Click "Configure".(if you already do that,jump to Step 8.)
Ren'Py will ask you for the game's name.Just click "Continue",then "Continue".
Slight bug but it throws an error when exiting Will's notebook on Android.
Full traceback below
While running game code: File "renpy/common/00gamemenu.rpy", line 173, in <module> File "renpy/common/00action_other.rpy", line 537, in __call__ File "game/screens.rpy", line 1568, in musicJournalStop
NameError: global name 'journal_music_previous_volume' is not defined
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback: File "00gamemenu.rpyc", line 173, in script File "renpy/ast.py", line 928, in execute File "renpy/python.py", line 2245, in py_exec_bytecode File "renpy/common/00gamemenu.rpy", line 173, in <module> File "renpy/ui.py", line 298, in interact File "renpy/display\core.py", line 3327, in interact File "renpy/display\core.py", line 945, in replace_transient File "renpy/display\core.py", line 1261, in remove File "renpy/display\core.py", line 1175, in hide_or_replace File "renpy/display\screen.py", line 515, in _hide File "renpy/display\behavior.py", line 2388, in set_transform_event File "renpy/display\behavior.py", line 322, in run File "renpy/display\behavior.py", line 329, in run File "renpy/common/00action_other.rpy", line 537, in __call__ File "game/screens.rpy", line 1568, in musicJournalStop
NameError: global name 'journal_music_previous_volume' is not defined
Kinda new to these kinds of visual novels. Is there anyway to update the game by a patch rather than downloading it again. I don't have a lot of space on my laptop so redownloading games isn't really feasible.
Another hit out of the ballpark (pun intended, I suppose) from EchoProject. The wait was long, but was justified with its content per usual. The h-scene this build was quite intense and the best one in the novel so far in my opinion, it has a lot of impact and makes you feel for both William & Sam and was quite philosophical in the dialogue which was quite surprising at least to me, I hope future h-scenes will have similar proportions rather it just being characters bonding and well being straight up porn. Since Murdoch is my favorite of the four, I was surprised when I read that he got a VGU, I am a fan of the new style, there's still a bit of me who yearns for the old style but I'll get used to it. I think the addition of the notebook is a nice quality-of-life feature and I hope that carries over to future builds and maybe even some of previous events in the novel. I'm looking forward to seeing more of Hattie, Andy, and even Porter.
All-in-all, I was very pleased with the new build and I'm looking forward to the next one even if it takes a while.
<Very good>!! Haha, thank you very much. You do not know how much that compliment made my day. I'm very glad that to hear that you loved the build as well.
Okay, just finished the update, the wait was worth it !
Loved the whole William scene with Sam, that was both hot and cute to see how much William cares about him (dear lord, all his little taunts like "I like it when you laugh" are just adorable)
The whole William PoV thing was really interesting, and I'm glad Hattie
is nicer than I thought she would be.
People who played the update, do you think there was an important choice to make/a fork somewhere during this new chapter ?
I think most of them didn't really matter since it only changed the order of the things William did. The only one that might be important is when you have to choose who to talk to at the Hip.
(and maybe at the end of William and Sam's...session when I chose to help Sam instead of letting finishing himself off)
I tried all the options but I still think the best one was Ethel since she gave William more informations than the others
Now it's gonna be a pain to wait for like...6 months to continue William's route but I'm plenty satisfied, thanks for the great writing and the update !
Don't know if it will have an effect in future builds: either leave the city hall for last and have a scene with Porter (which is quite interesting) or the Stag for a scene with Dimitri, Paul and Felipe, and then another with Nik (talking about Sam). Feels like the second one is more important due to delving a bit into the conflict Nik feels about Sam.
In the Hip, I think Harlan is the choice that gives the most about the case; while Ethel... was more amusing I guess (and if you followed from the Porter scene, William makes an additional short observation.)
The NSFW scene between William and Sam is very good: hot, intense and deep; hands down the best so far. That whole talk about expectations and suppressed thoughts felt so true and seems connected with what Sam says next (about something crawling and trying to break free from the wall.)
Yeah, I really like William and it will be a pain to wait for his next build.
I visited the Stag first during my first playthrough so I didn't encounter Dimitri, Paul and Felipe and it even changed Harlan's dialogue (if you choose to go to the Stag and then the City Hall, he didn't give you that much info)
Definitively feels like a better pick of choices that mines in my first playthrough, everything that brings William and Samuel closer is needed
William's talk during the NSFW scene was quite painful, he really seems to suffer about his situation and what he is
I just noticed that since I started playing the smoke room, there have been six builds. Its been very neat and interesting to see how things have been updated and added onto.
I know it sucks waiting, I wanted to see Williams path the most. I just got done playing the current Nik path its getting so good. I don't want to rush the creators but I wish we'd get updates more regularly. The wait is so long its getting painful
I would rather keep the quality of the story and the size of the update first before anything that might hurt the Vn. So, please take your time and keep up with your great results!!!
Oh yeah, I forgot to ask this. Echo, TSR, and Arches are still in one universe right? So, if they're sorted, TSR comes first, Echo comes second and the last one is Arches. Am I right?
Yes, they're all setting in the same universe and in this particular order
Echo was the first game to be published and finished, then they created its prequel, the Smoke Room, and a sequel, Arches.
However it's difficult to state if every single event or character in each game is cannon since all games (will) have different routes and byso, different endings
(I mean, heck it's written in the game description just above)
Um actually, that was a different James, I think that was his grandfather or something ? The James mentioned in echo is a different one than the one in the smoke room
Yeah I assumed they were the same person until yesterday when I realized that those murders were in the 1800s, and this game is set in 1915. I do find it a bit strange how the Ice Cream business is never mentioned, but I guess it kind of clashes with the tone of the game and him being painted as a villain. IIRC other James would be recently dead in this game.
There is bad blood running in the Hendricks family tree. I, for one, albeit unpopular, don't want a route for James. I feel he has wayyy too much wealth, power, and influence to manipulate, blackmail, or even coerce Sam and the rest of the cast just to get his G.O.A.T. rocks on.
No idea. However, the latest public update for Nik was posted 75 days ago. It became available in Patreon 92 days ago. That's a 17 day difference. The new William route became available in Patreon 17 days ago on October 25th. Meaning the update will drop to public soon... maybe... hopefully ^^
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Can't wait to read more!
This was the shit...in a good way. The beginning was a little confusing (probably because i was playing at night after having worked a 12 hour shift) but i fell in love with the characters. Easy 9 out of 10 for me. I will admit I wish there was more sexual content involved especially considering the main characters job, but I'm a pervert. I can never have enough of the sex stuff lol. Point is, awesome game.
Updates on the patreon near the end of this month, then goes up on itchio 2 weeks later.
--George
waiting for the new chapters)
they should only be about a month, give or take!
Ive been having issues installing the android version since .16. I have more than enough space a bit less than a tb And deleting the whole app and reinstalling doesnt help can someone help me please?
I just need to know if this game its complete? I play the Nik route but men idk of this the true route or im missing sometimg or i just need to play the other routes... anyone can help? Btw the history is so f word good! I llve it but i didnt know it has so many NSFW moments (i love it) but still nice and awesome!
Idk why I really don't know why but whenever I see Sam it's like he's staring into my soul
He scares THE HELL out of me
He freaks me out even more than the things that were supposed to His personality and appearance are disturbing to me and idk why but I still like him
Am I crazy?
Considering what he becomes in echo, that fits perfectly lol
I'll be honest after playing echo, route 65 and arches I wasn't really expecting to love this as much as the others and while not my favorite (I stick more to modern time horror stories) I end up falling in love with the setting and characters
Even characters I thought I wouldn't like much ended up falling into my favorite category
TOO SWEET!
Why can't I download the android version? When I always click download, it still wouldn't download.
Im new to this game but it says "If it isnt, check your pop up blocker"? So maybe your pop up blocker is on. If it still doesnt work maybe try using a vpn??? Idrkkk
Already did and it still didn't work.
I cant download it aswell but when i turned off my pop up blocker and turned on my vpn, it worked sooo
Hmm,
- free up space if you're low on it
- happens most times while in the middle of downloading, so if problem persists, try downloading Joiplay and the renpy plugin for it (both can be found in the playstore) then download the pc version if there is one.
A bit more steps but gets the job done.
Check to see if your anti-virus software is preventing the download.
Is the issue that you can't download, or you just can't install?
For me, I can't install the updates on my tablet unless I uninstall the previous version. The only downside is that I lose all of my save data...which is completely fine (not really) since I want to revisit the routes in the future. I may as well wait for The Echo Project to complete the VN within the next several years if my only recourse to updating TSR is to uninstall previous versions...as well as my progress...
Good luck to us both!
For PC:
1)Microsoft Smartscreen sometimes prevents you from downloading.
Search "how to turn off SmartScreen" at Google.
2)Press F12 or Ctrl+Shift+I to turn on "Developer Tools".
Switch to "Console" and contact developers of the itch.io if there are some Javascript errors.
For Android:
1)Switch your browser to Chrome,Firefox or Edge and retry.
2)Turn on your VPN.
3)Ask someone to help you download.
Wow the first 30mn is kinda dark tho... also I didn't expect the NSFW scene with William that soon hahaha
Still reading it step by step, word by word...
And I can't believe the game teaching me how to play Poker... LOL
Loving it so far. 😁
Have you played the other Echo games? 🤔🤔
Already finished Adastra, the rest are still in progress. Since The Smoke Room is a prequel to Echo, I'll keep Echo for later on... Hehehe
Kane is just... I want Kane route!
True, he was good not gonna lie. I hope we see him in the Nik route.
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global name 'journal_music_previous_volume' is not defined
Seems like problem happends here!
It should execute musicJournalPlay before musicJournalStop's execution.
Key Point!
global journal_music_previous_volume journal_music_previous_volume = preferences.get_volume("music")This operation will set journal_music_previous_volume to preferences.get_volume("music"),
Seems like it is a Use-before-Initialization (UBI) bug.Contact developers or just add this to games/screens.rpy:
It should be like this after injection:
It works on my PC but I have not tested on my Android Phone.Hope it works.
How to sign an Android Package(APK)?
Check this.(Google...Android manual is your friend.)
APP is not installed
Check these solutions:
I wanna get Android version build more faster
You can build it manually!I will show you steps and you can do it by yourself!
Step 1.
Download the latest Ren'Py at Ren'Py 7.4.10 (renpy.org).
Step 2.
Download the Microsoft Windows version of the game.
Step 3.
Open the game's folder in File Explorer.
Select all items of the game's folder,and press Ctrl+C.
Step 4.
Open "the_question" folder of the Ren'Py SDK,and press Ctrl+V.Replace all files,do not skip.
Step 5.
Open Ren'Py Editor GUI(renpy.exe) and click "Android".
Step 6.
After restarting,reclick "Android".
You can review the project by clicking "Phone","Tablet" or "Television".When you ready,click "Install SDK & Create Keys"(if you already do this,jump to Step 7).
You should see this:
Click "Yes".Then you will see this,input your nickname,your favourite character's name,or something else.
That's OK.Click "Continue",then "Yes".
What?A bundle signing key?I don't need that.Click "No",then "Continue".
Step 7.
Click "Configure".(if you already do that,jump to Step 8.)
Ren'Py will ask you for the game's name.Just click "Continue",then "Continue".
What?The name of the package?Okay.
Try this:
(Replace "arches" to your game's name.)
Well done!Click "Continue",then "Continue" again.
RAM?Next one.Click "Continue",then "Continue" again.
Automaticlly update Java Source Code?Not today.Just click "Continue".(Stop annoying me!)
Step 8.
Finally.cLiCk "bUiLd PaCkAgE"!Then you can leave for a while.It is too slow on my laptop :/
Well done :)
Ren'Py will open the File Explorer.And,the signed APK is already there!Transfer the APK to your phone and just enjoy it :p
Faster than you expected :)
But I think it is too slow :(
im chinese and my Chinglish is so bad :(((
Thank you!
But yeah, this really helps
Slight bug but it throws an error when exiting Will's notebook on Android.
Full traceback below
While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00gamemenu.rpy", line 173, in <module>
File "renpy/common/00action_other.rpy", line 537, in __call__
File "game/screens.rpy", line 1568, in musicJournalStop
NameError: global name 'journal_music_previous_volume' is not defined
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "00gamemenu.rpyc", line 173, in script
File "renpy/ast.py", line 928, in execute
File "renpy/python.py", line 2245, in py_exec_bytecode
File "renpy/common/00gamemenu.rpy", line 173, in <module>
File "renpy/ui.py", line 298, in interact
File "renpy/display\core.py", line 3327, in interact
File "renpy/display\core.py", line 945, in replace_transient
File "renpy/display\core.py", line 1261, in remove
File "renpy/display\core.py", line 1175, in hide_or_replace
File "renpy/display\screen.py", line 515, in _hide
File "renpy/display\behavior.py", line 2388, in set_transform_event
File "renpy/display\behavior.py", line 322, in run
File "renpy/display\behavior.py", line 329, in run
File "renpy/common/00action_other.rpy", line 537, in __call__
File "game/screens.rpy", line 1568, in musicJournalStop
NameError: global name 'journal_music_previous_volume' is not defined
I can't play the game "This app is built for an older version of Android" Is there anything I can do about this? 😭
Kinda new to these kinds of visual novels. Is there anyway to update the game by a patch rather than downloading it again. I don't have a lot of space on my laptop so redownloading games isn't really feasible.
You can just delete the older versions
Any way to copy the save folder into the new version so I dont have to start from the beginning?
I'm not sure.
I keep trying to download build 18 for android but when I attempt to install it it shows 'app not installed'
I've tried deleting my tsr app and all sorts but it still hasn't worked
Hello Echo Project I am having an issue with the Android build, where the UI is overlapping itself. Is there a fix for that? 🤔🤔
You were able to download it? When I try it says 'app not installed' do you know how to get past that?
I uninstalled it then installed it, bad news is that you lose all your saves. 😥😥😥
It usually says app not installed when there is not enough space on your phone, just clear up 1 gig or 2 and try again
I have the same problem. Also, it causes an error popup when using Will's notebook.
Why does it need access to Google play billing service?
I’m waiting for this game to be finished so i can play it in it’s full glory, and I’m reading these comments that make me loose my patience.
I’m exited to try it out!
So good!
Re: Public Build 18
Another hit out of the ballpark (pun intended, I suppose) from EchoProject. The wait was long, but was justified with its content per usual. The h-scene this build was quite intense and the best one in the novel so far in my opinion, it has a lot of impact and makes you feel for both William & Sam and was quite philosophical in the dialogue which was quite surprising at least to me, I hope future h-scenes will have similar proportions rather it just being characters bonding and well being straight up porn. Since Murdoch is my favorite of the four, I was surprised when I read that he got a VGU, I am a fan of the new style, there's still a bit of me who yearns for the old style but I'll get used to it. I think the addition of the notebook is a nice quality-of-life feature and I hope that carries over to future builds and maybe even some of previous events in the novel. I'm looking forward to seeing more of Hattie, Andy, and even Porter.
All-in-all, I was very pleased with the new build and I'm looking forward to the next one even if it takes a while.
I agree and I friggen loved this build. Also, Umineko chad :)
<Very good>!! Haha, thank you very much. You do not know how much that compliment made my day. I'm very glad that to hear that you loved the build as well.
the drawings are really cute :D
Okay... I still have to wait patiently. At this time I want this VN on my phone...
Oh good I'll wait.🌚🏃🏽♂️🏃🏽♂️💗
This reminds me of how the Canadians are portrayed in South Park. 😂😂😂😂
Okay, just finished the update, the wait was worth it !
Loved the whole William scene with Sam, that was both hot and cute to see how much William cares about him (dear lord, all his little taunts like "I like it when you laugh" are just adorable)
The whole William PoV thing was really interesting, and I'm glad Hattie
is nicer than I thought she would be.
People who played the update, do you think there was an important choice to make/a fork somewhere during this new chapter ?
I think most of them didn't really matter since it only changed the order of the things William did. The only one that might be important is when you have to choose who to talk to at the Hip.
(and maybe at the end of William and Sam's...session when I chose to help Sam instead of letting finishing himself off)
I tried all the options but I still think the best one was Ethel since she gave William more informations than the others
Now it's gonna be a pain to wait for like...6 months to continue William's route but I'm plenty satisfied, thanks for the great writing and the update !
PS : William's drawings are adorable
Don't know if it will have an effect in future builds: either leave the city hall for last and have a scene with Porter (which is quite interesting) or the Stag for a scene with Dimitri, Paul and Felipe, and then another with Nik (talking about Sam). Feels like the second one is more important due to delving a bit into the conflict Nik feels about Sam.
In the Hip, I think Harlan is the choice that gives the most about the case; while Ethel... was more amusing I guess (and if you followed from the Porter scene, William makes an additional short observation.)
The NSFW scene between William and Sam is very good: hot, intense and deep; hands down the best so far. That whole talk about expectations and suppressed thoughts felt so true and seems connected with what Sam says next (about something crawling and trying to break free from the wall.)
Yeah, I really like William and it will be a pain to wait for his next build.
Wow, thanks for the reply !
I visited the Stag first during my first playthrough so I didn't encounter Dimitri, Paul and Felipe and it even changed Harlan's dialogue (if you choose to go to the Stag and then the City Hall, he didn't give you that much info)
Definitively feels like a better pick of choices that mines in my first playthrough, everything that brings William and Samuel closer is needed
William's talk during the NSFW scene was quite painful, he really seems to suffer about his situation and what he is
YES.
I just noticed that since I started playing the smoke room, there have been six builds. Its been very neat and interesting to see how things have been updated and added onto.
I really appreciate you guys taking time to reduce the files size, people might not care but you did an amazing job
William, Cliff and Nik day 5, Murdoch day 6
estimated completion: 47%
Yaaay finally ! Can't wait to play it
let's goooo
Alright yay new smoke room update!!!
ah yes 3 minutes ago new build
i'm waiting for a Cliff update uwu
Seeing that the last public update was 83 days ago is painful, especially because I know the next update is about William
His update was posted on patreon the 25th October. Will it be released...like the 25th November ?
I know it sucks waiting, I wanted to see Williams path the most. I just got done playing the current Nik path its getting so good. I don't want to rush the creators but I wish we'd get updates more regularly. The wait is so long its getting painful
These updates are free and have been 30k and 20k words for the last two updates respectively.
Most monthly updates tend to be in the 7k range.
I would rather keep the quality of the story and the size of the update first before anything that might hurt the Vn. So, please take your time and keep up with your great results!!!
Oh yeah, I forgot to ask this. Echo, TSR, and Arches are still in one universe right? So, if they're sorted, TSR comes first, Echo comes second and the last one is Arches. Am I right?
Yes, they're all setting in the same universe and in this particular order
Echo was the first game to be published and finished, then they created its prequel, the Smoke Room, and a sequel, Arches.
However it's difficult to state if every single event or character in each game is cannon since all games (will) have different routes and byso, different endings
(I mean, heck it's written in the game description just above)
Multiverse.
Actually the Jenna's route seems like the cannon one, I mean, a happy ending (compared to the HORRIFYING ones you can have)!
Yup, I'm glad I did Jenna's route after all the other and got her good ending, it was pretty wholesome considering everything they went through
I'm still sad about Leo's endings though, I really want him to be happy (Chase doesn't deserve his love anyways)
The Smoke Room > Echo > Arches
T.E.A., so yes you are correct.
Also, incorrect since all routes indicate multiverse; therefore, all routes are canon.
Is it bad that I kind of want James Hendricks route in the game?
A romantic one yes
I mean //littles spoilers?// he raped some Meseta Tribe childs and then blamed his bf
So, James is a bad character huh?
But I can fix him
Um actually, that was a different James, I think that was his grandfather or something ? The James mentioned in echo is a different one than the one in the smoke room
Oh my god- Oh yes they are different people!
I really forgot due I haven't played echo on several months
Yeah I assumed they were the same person until yesterday when I realized that those murders were in the 1800s, and this game is set in 1915. I do find it a bit strange how the Ice Cream business is never mentioned, but I guess it kind of clashes with the tone of the game and him being painted as a villain. IIRC other James would be recently dead in this game.
There is bad blood running in the Hendricks family tree. I, for one, albeit unpopular, don't want a route for James. I feel he has wayyy too much wealth, power, and influence to manipulate, blackmail, or even coerce Sam and the rest of the cast just to get his G.O.A.T. rocks on.
Question:
How long does it take for the new update to release here after release at Patreon?
No idea. However, the latest public update for Nik was posted 75 days ago. It became available in Patreon 92 days ago. That's a 17 day difference. The new William route became available in Patreon 17 days ago on October 25th. Meaning the update will drop to public soon... maybe... hopefully ^^
I hope so, I'm really waiting for the continuation of William's route rn
Well they are working on multiple games so it might be a while