Okay like I’m not 100% sure if this has been answered, but like........will there be like....a lot of sexual content?........I remember playing Amorous and I was.....p r e s s e d with the huge load (pun intended) of sex......so like.....I know Dean’s route is a little explicit at the moment (not that I mind), but uh...🗿
It'll be there when required to advance character relationships if needed. Some characters can have their whole arcs told without it, and as of right now the mainly sexually involved routes are Dean and Orlando for reasons that should be obvious.
That isn't to say the others won't or can't have any sexual content, but they aren't (at least as far as what I've got drafted) required. But if there's enough of a push for it and it feels natural enough for things to go down that path I'd consider it.
I'd say feeling natural doesn't seem like much of an issue. These people knew each other for quite some time before, so reaching some degree of sexual interaction in the span of less than a month doesn't feel very unnatural. They wouldn't reach the same level as Dean for sure, but some fooling around seems possible if nothing else.
Don't take this as an endorsement from me though. I prefer the romance aspect myself, I don't care much for the sexual content. Just throwing my two cents on the matter.
There's an ideology when writing character relationships that can become sexual in that the sex scene itself should be a marker for the relationship dynamic changing unless it's literally just written for porn. If it doesn't accomplish that, and it isn't porn, it's just not needed in the story. The only other thing that gets held to this standard is death, which so far the game handles quite well.
In Dean's case, the presence of Dave's expectation of sex moving forward is what I wanted to mark and when we get to Dean's next proper day we'll see his evolution of that. Orlando in the same regard has this metamorphosis if a bit slower because of the other themes his route is tackling.
So when I say natural, I mean more... Is that the appropriate plot point to spur the relationship dynamic to change? Roswell possibly given he's brought up the idea of love, Hoss potentially because of his secret, Tyson is probably a good contender now but struggles due to another theme of his route. Sal's probably the least sexual because... his problems and relationship with Dave aren't really needing to go the route of sex to advance.
Again this is entirely separate to just writing it as porn, which if people want a midnight romp with Tyson, or an outdoor fling with Dean, or something more raunchy with Roswell, that's something else that I'd just have to see if it can be worked in and if people want it.
Thanks for the clarification. In that case I see where your point comes from: if they are to be there, there must be a meaningful reason for it. When it comes to writing quality that seems the most appropriate way to handle them, as it helps cement these moments as the relationship changers you wish them to be. A case of "less is more", to put it simply.
I support your approach wholeheartedly, but then again I'm not the only fan of this story. Still, I'm confident you can come up with something good regardless. You seem a good enough writer to pull it off.
Okay...That’s good to hear....I feel kinda dumb for asking that because of how much thought the writing has put into it already...I know that each character has their issues, but I was thinking of other VNs like Blackgate’s Alin to the point of “oh he’s sad? Sex now” or Repeat’s Owen (to a certain extent). Thanks for clarifying!
Don't feel dumb! It's a valid question and very much something that people that are here for the sex need to be aware of given... well, that it just might not happen.
hey! i love this vn so far! keep up the good work! but i have a quick question!
spoilers! (i think?)
so i have gotten the 6 passwords for the 6 main romanceable characters, and the password you have to look for when visiting the hospital to see orlando, but i dont know how to continue the story from there. what now?
What day are you getting the bad ending? If you tried both options for the Oz reveal, and get bad ends on both, you’re probably missing something else...
1) How did you get the password to stop Orlando getting shot? 2) Based on how that was given to you in-game, what can you infer from this when things change when you use it?
Gotta say, there has been a long time since a story got that much investment out of me. Was checking this 'cause I was bored one night and ended up becoming a fan. Thought I would dislike half the cast when I started, but the way you went with the writing actually made me fond of all but one of them. Hoss went from "I bet I'll hate you by the end" to pretty much my favorite of the bunch, so you're definetely doing something very well on that front. Props for the great work!
Quick question: Do you plan on adding more character sprites? Having only one position with different faces can feel a bit too static at times. It's a minor thing, but I figured I'd ask anyway.
I've shared some of the designs waaaaaaay back on Twitter (Tyson and Roswell), a lot more of the recent ones on Discord (Orlando, Sal, Oswin, Hoss and Benson) and will be looking to finish off Dean, Dave, David and a few others soon.
There'll likely be a post on Patreon and maybe a dev log on here when they're a bit closer to being ready.
I was surprised so many people hate Roswell, though admittedly I'm a bit biased towards him because he's the one I find most aesthetically appealing. I decided to replay and see what issue was, and there were a few things I noticed:
On the first day he fires off one or two bants that don't really land. It feels like it's supposed to give off a playful teasing nature but no one really fires back or laughs with him so it appears a bit more one sided and mean spirited.
I feel like when he calls Tyson a puppy it should be played off as more banter, but the issue is after this he doesn't do any more bantering. So now whenever he insults Tyson it feels like he's specifically targeting him (which maybe he is, I think that's a reasonable character choice, but it makes him less likeable)
Then there's the conversation with him and Orlando just before choosing a partner. Here a few bants are fired at Roswell and he's got the frowny face on. In fact he's got a frowny face on for most of what should be a light hearted conversation. This kind of gives the impression he can dish it out but can't take it.
After that there's the whole thing with thinking Tyson is incapable of love. So he's prided himself as being a pretty scientifically minded individual. And he gives good reasoning to Dave in the kitchen. And I can see him throwing an offhand remark like "Yea if you're even capable of love." like mild banter. But when they're back in the dining room the way he kind of states it as a proven fact to Tyson's face that he's incapable of love without provocation. I feel like it goes against his character to jump to conclusions and make such hard definite statements. Definitely a bit over the top.
So to sum up: I think the way to make him more likeable is to spread out his snarky comments a bit more among the group, then for the group to retort in kind and for him to take it as good natured ribbing. That way when he makes remarks to Tyson they seem within character and not targeted. But you can still give his Tyson remarks a bit more a sting as compared to the others when the tension rises so it's reasonable when Tyson reacts negatively.
And as a side: I can maybe see after all this how bragging about being the smartest might rub some people the wrong way, and how it might come off as comes off as pretentious. Maybe change it to something like "Well intelligence is an immeasurable quality, so I can't say whether or not I'm the smartest, but I do think I'm the best suited for conducting research and mentally draining tasks." Or just leave him as pretentious, everyone needs flaws. (Or have Dave call him out and that can be part of his arc)
It's tricky, because Roswell by design isn't meant to like Tyson and is meant to be actively antagonistic towards him specifically. Which is why specific remarks about his capacity to love are meant to be a bit "Whoa that's a bit much."
The problem as far as I've noticed is just the lack of things in the early days that show that he's a good person just a bit tactless at times. I'm already drafting *something* to potentially fix that but it might take a bit to weave in seamlessly.
I love this game stories. First time I see this game I think It's gonna be bloody in the doom scene. So I just overthinking lol and i want to know how can I hug sal because I play almost everyway. I can but he push me away thanks for making this game 💖
I have another question though, in Orlando's route, is it possible to convince him to sleep with Dave for the night? And in Sal's route, when you approach him at the pool when he was talking about what happened to her sister, is it possible to hug him instead of pushing Dave away?
Sorry, someone in the comments mentioned that they did this but I can't seem to get those particular scenes, so kinda desperate now haha
1) No. There's a reason why he turns Dave down and that's consistent across all instances. 2) Yes. It's tied to affection points. If you have enough, the 'correct' option is to hug. If you don't have enough, the correct option is to give him space.
Just replayed his route again and...once again....got pushed away....as small as it may seem, as a person, hugs are like my one source of comfort (omg eww I’m sorry if this looks like a guilt trip but I’m being so serious here), so like....I kinda want it...sorry for bugging y’all but like I genuinely don’t know what I’m doing wrong (Insert sad music) to not get the comfort he deserves😤
About to play the game again to see if I can get that hug that we are looking for!
Also, no worries! Hugs are definitely a good source of comfort. Though, at the moment, it seems that a hug we are desiring for is from a certain reserved scaly swimmer! Haha!
I just want to say thank you for this game. I am a computer science student currently still attending college and one of my dreams is to make my own furry game. So I found this game by accident and honestly it is pretty inspiring for me. I have been wanting to try with Ren'py as well and I am just getting started.
So I am curious, do you work in a team or alone for this project? and if this is your first project, I have to say I am truly impressed because it is a pretty ingenious game and the writings for the characters are really good :)
Just want to say thank you again because this inspired me and I can't wait to see this game finished.
Heyo! Just wanted to say that I really love what you have so far! I've done all the routes up to the current end of what you have out (excluding Roswell's route), and I'll put the rest of my thoughts below a spoiler warning just to be safe ;P
***SPOILERS***
It's really well done, and the sex talks with Orlando and Dean regarding Dave's lack of experience caught me off guard with how upfront and good they were with their subjects! (especially since one of my prior experiences with NSFW VNs had no consent in one of the NSFW scenes....)
I love all of the main characters, except Roswell. It's been mentioned a while ago that Roswell is an asshole to everyone, including Dave at times. I don't blame him for not forgiving Tyson at the drop of a hat (nor would I expect him to), but his absolute lack of trust in Dave regarding Tyson is really dickish of him, especially that ultimatum he was leading up to (or that Dave assumed Roswell was leading up to).
But honestly? I don't think Roswell being an ass needs to be changed. Sometimes some people are just unapologetically rude and mean, and just pretend to be nice to a select few people for whatever their reasons are, and they won't change when confronted about it. It's not often to see this being portrayed in stories (at least not without said asshole friend acting almost comically cruel and the character they're friends with acting completely oblivious to this), and I think it'd be nice just to have that kind of experience shown in here.
But if that's not at all what you intended for Roswell, then I understand if you want to change that. After all, this is your story and your characters! lol
He just needs to be toned down a little is all. Like... I was aiming for tactless (almost in the same vein as Dean) but not 'asshole'. The cast is varied enough that I didn't expect everyone to like every single cast member but the reaction to Roswell in particular is just very strong.
Hey so i dont want to be that guy but.... the first Password like the very first when you enter the mansion is that a easter egg or a important vault... i'm a new player so i dont know if i missed something haha
Ok, ALOT to say! 1.THIS IS AMAZING! 2.This is extremely emotional and also very fun! The effort being put into this a grand i can tell! Even the sketches show so much more then they let on! This vn is very mysterious and i LOVE that aspect of it! It really does make you feel good about the great moments in life not just as Dave but as yourself! Also the passwords are relatively easy to find but some not so much. It gives you a great chance to really pay attention and earn the good times! 10/10 would go to this mansion again! Also Thank you Grizz this really is amazing!
I like the gamee its amazing and so far i gathered 10 passwords and finished all routes and alt but i cant seem to find the 11th password ;-; am i missing out on something send halp pls XD
If it does, it'll likely be near the end of development given the script is still in development. There are no plans to translate into any specific language during development however.
There’s 11?? Geez, I must not be paying enough attention...I’ve only gotten the route specific ones, Benson’s saving and bad end, and Day 10’s password...There’s a word in the list that asks for a different day, but no matter what day I try, it keeps asking me for the specific day, leading me to believe I’m either doing something wrong or it’s for a future update... so I’m left with a password that’s supposedly usable and another I apparently haven’t found yet..............¿?is this normal?¿
That's also my question...the vault never tells you when to use a password, but my concern was that a word I entered is apparently a password. The issue I've asked about was me not knowing if the word I used was for a future or current build, so I'm a little stuck in a loop as well...
I've looked through all of the comments for hints to get the day 10 password, and I've certainly found some hints alright, and don't get me wrong I've tried to find the password using these hints. . But all of them just don't make any sense. Anybody got any, more obvious tips? Nothing too bold like revealing the password, but maybe another nudge in the right direction? (All of this is probably me just being an a clueless idiot lol.)
I love how I can just play through the game time and time again and never get to a point of sheer “well I’ll just wait for next update.” It seems like there’s always something new I miss and more elements that’s remind me of how great this game is. I love how every character (maybe except Roswell for reasons) has such interesting styles of their development, even when you aren’t playing their route. Also I love how unskippable the dialogue is. It’s just that good.😩P. S. - Sal is best boi😩
His development per se isn’t an issue, but during most conversations with literally anyone other than Dave, I feel like he’s literally always trying to talk someone down. There are many scenes where he’s seen as disrespectful, literally provoking Tyson multiple times, despite his whole “I don’t like him” perspective, being super unreasonable, and, while it’s just his world-building, literally downplaying Sal’s intelligence. He doesn’t really seem to have positive moments unless you specifically play his route, and those feelings are ONLY for Dave and he just seems to kick everyone else to the curb. I can understand if he’s meant to have this attitude because of how early on him and Dave became friends, but his blindsided attachment to the past is a little overboard. Every other character is positive (or trying to be in Ty’s case) in most scenarios if they don’t involve the deaths. Even with Hoss, if it sounds negative, it really isn’t because he usually has a more analytical approach to things, whereas Roswell just spits venom to everyone. I remember him kind of admitting his jealousy, but he can be a real downer.
That... is a big problem that I didn't notice until now. There should've been something in the way of seeing his interactions with his closer friends (Hoss and Orlando) but I guess I've just internalized it with how often it gets brought up on the server. Thanks for this, I might have to rework a couple earlier scenes, or inject a couple nicer ones just to make him seem less of a douche because he really isn't. Tactless at times sure, but he does have friends that like him for good reasons.
If you've played through to the end of where you're at, you should have an idea. Think things through about what you can learn from those deaths and what you might be able to use to stop it from happening.
The first password is given for free, its in red, after that you will need to pay close attention to things that are said during the day and the bad endings. Don't worry too much about the choices they most affect orlando route at the start and are more for character development than affecting the bad endings, endings are all to do with password.
I've looked at the previous replies from the developer, I'm still stuck on day 10s password, have been for weeks. I've thoroughly checked all the text in roswell, hoss, and tysons route and nothing stands out to me from the clues given in front of the vault, is there something I'm missing?
1. It's in every route. 2. You're overthinking it. 3. Dave remarks about an interaction he had on that day. 4. It's said in the 'bad' route if you didn't put it.
Tysons 1st is from another route, think it mite be orlandos bad end but not sure been along time since i unlocked it. Hoss's 2nd i believe is one of the CGs that is currently bugged along with one of deans and cant be unlocked at the moment.
Played through all routes including the alt one and gathered 11 passwords so far. Story has good suspense and mystery that gets you invested in the characters whichever route you pick. Really looking forward to you finishing this project Grizz.
That password on Day 11... that was absolutely brilliant. It made me think thoroughly and yet the answer was so obvious! The hints were there but it took me about 30 minutes. This game is fantastic and I can't wait for the next build!
Well what is happening in the visual novel? Dave's friends are dying, killed by something unknown. A large amount of people being killed... there's a word for that, isn't there?
from grizz 2 months ago - Well, it doesn't crash so much as force quits like I'm telling it to. After all, if you know that password, what else did you expect? What was there was a relic from early day testing and in no way was canon.
After reading the comments, I realized that the game really resembles the Zero Escape series and it is very cool, because I have loved the Zero Escape universe for a very long time. (But not as much as this one))
I completely passed this game with all variations of endings. I must say that this game has become more than just a game for me. I experienced a storm of emotions. At first I was depressed for a week, then I was inspired to take up sports and did them until I was exhausted, then I just played at night and enjoyed spending time with that universe. Only one character made me feel all these emotions. Tyson. I fell in love with him and now I'm looking forward to continuing my relationship with him. Please, GRIZZ, go on, never stop. Your game has made me a better person, and that's not an empty word...although it might sound a little silly.....( love ya, Grizz ♥ and THANK YOU)
Just download the latest version, once you've downloaded the apk, install it and it'll ask if you want to update the game then bam, you can continue playing!
This Novella is just super! You managed to combine both a detective and a horror movie. Everything is just perfectly intertwined and does not interfere with each other. I will look forward to continuing the story.
Please tell me how ,I've been stuck for days i don't know where is it , im on dean but i read that it was in the reflection, what reflection like there's no mirrors or something like that , and i dont see any red words like before , are they all gonna be the same color? I dont know i just... HELP ME PLEASE 😭😭
So.. I played this game a while back. Like a half a year or so ago. And recently i picked up another game called "Zero escape: Nonary game" Boy oh boy. I guess i just have a thing for games like that and this because i loved both of them. But now im wondering. Did you draw inspiration from the Zero Escape series? It shows quite a bit in this. Not a bad thing at all either. In fact i think that makes it quite compelling!
I did! Although while I played those games and loved them, they took the source material and interpreted it in a very over the top and specific way. So the same themes might appear, but how they're handled is a bit differently. The main one is the concept of morphic resonance: Don't go expecting Dave to be an Esper and you should be fine!
Is there some kind of glitch that makes some of the CGs black and white? They looked incomplete, more like rough drafts/sketches. Is that a glitch or will the finished product come in the upcoming updates? The CGs that seem glitched are from Dean's route, Tyson's route, and one from Orlando's route. Hopefully this will be fixed.
There was a vote on Patreon about this. Essentially people wanted sketchy/more CGs and faster plot development rather than complete CGs when needed with possible delays given the time needed to render them out.
Eventually they'll all be done in full colour. If you view it in the game once, it unlocks in the gallery and when the assets get swapped out, you'll see them there.
when he removes the sketches and adds in the finished versions it will be in the same spot in the gallery so you wouldnt be forced to replay the same scene if you didnt want too
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is there anything you need to ask oz to progress the game? just curious.
Nothing required, but you can get some info early. It's mostly just worldbuilding.
Okay like I’m not 100% sure if this has been answered, but like........will there be like....a lot of sexual content?........I remember playing Amorous and I was.....p r e s s e d with the huge load (pun intended) of sex......so like.....I know Dean’s route is a little explicit at the moment (not that I mind), but uh...🗿
It'll be there when required to advance character relationships if needed. Some characters can have their whole arcs told without it, and as of right now the mainly sexually involved routes are Dean and Orlando for reasons that should be obvious.
That isn't to say the others won't or can't have any sexual content, but they aren't (at least as far as what I've got drafted) required. But if there's enough of a push for it and it feels natural enough for things to go down that path I'd consider it.
I'd say feeling natural doesn't seem like much of an issue. These people knew each other for quite some time before, so reaching some degree of sexual interaction in the span of less than a month doesn't feel very unnatural. They wouldn't reach the same level as Dean for sure, but some fooling around seems possible if nothing else.
Don't take this as an endorsement from me though. I prefer the romance aspect myself, I don't care much for the sexual content. Just throwing my two cents on the matter.
Perhaps natural was the wrong word.
There's an ideology when writing character relationships that can become sexual in that the sex scene itself should be a marker for the relationship dynamic changing unless it's literally just written for porn. If it doesn't accomplish that, and it isn't porn, it's just not needed in the story. The only other thing that gets held to this standard is death, which so far the game handles quite well.
In Dean's case, the presence of Dave's expectation of sex moving forward is what I wanted to mark and when we get to Dean's next proper day we'll see his evolution of that. Orlando in the same regard has this metamorphosis if a bit slower because of the other themes his route is tackling.
So when I say natural, I mean more... Is that the appropriate plot point to spur the relationship dynamic to change? Roswell possibly given he's brought up the idea of love, Hoss potentially because of his secret, Tyson is probably a good contender now but struggles due to another theme of his route. Sal's probably the least sexual because... his problems and relationship with Dave aren't really needing to go the route of sex to advance.
Again this is entirely separate to just writing it as porn, which if people want a midnight romp with Tyson, or an outdoor fling with Dean, or something more raunchy with Roswell, that's something else that I'd just have to see if it can be worked in and if people want it.
Thanks for the clarification. In that case I see where your point comes from: if they are to be there, there must be a meaningful reason for it. When it comes to writing quality that seems the most appropriate way to handle them, as it helps cement these moments as the relationship changers you wish them to be. A case of "less is more", to put it simply.
I support your approach wholeheartedly, but then again I'm not the only fan of this story. Still, I'm confident you can come up with something good regardless. You seem a good enough writer to pull it off.
Okay...That’s good to hear....I feel kinda dumb for asking that because of how much thought the writing has put into it already...I know that each character has their issues, but I was thinking of other VNs like Blackgate’s Alin to the point of “oh he’s sad? Sex now” or Repeat’s Owen (to a certain extent). Thanks for clarifying!
Don't feel dumb! It's a valid question and very much something that people that are here for the sex need to be aware of given... well, that it just might not happen.
hey! i love this vn so far! keep up the good work! but i have a quick question!
spoilers! (i think?)
so i have gotten the 6 passwords for the 6 main romanceable characters, and the password you have to look for when visiting the hospital to see orlando, but i dont know how to continue the story from there. what now?
Use that last password you got and see what changes.
so orlando dosen't get shot. im soooooo confused like every thing is still bad like please i need help😭
so i tried both options on revealing oz or not but either way it still ends bad. im sorry im probably just being dumb😭
What day are you getting the bad ending? If you tried both options for the Oz reveal, and get bad ends on both, you’re probably missing something else...
Day 8. this is when tyson and dean fight over the gun and gets orlando shot.
1) How did you get the password to stop Orlando getting shot?
2) Based on how that was given to you in-game, what can you infer from this when things change when you use it?
Gotta say, there has been a long time since a story got that much investment out of me. Was checking this 'cause I was bored one night and ended up becoming a fan. Thought I would dislike half the cast when I started, but the way you went with the writing actually made me fond of all but one of them. Hoss went from "I bet I'll hate you by the end" to pretty much my favorite of the bunch, so you're definetely doing something very well on that front. Props for the great work!
Quick question: Do you plan on adding more character sprites? Having only one position with different faces can feel a bit too static at times. It's a minor thing, but I figured I'd ask anyway.
Oh yes. Ideally in the next couple months I'll be upping the resolution to 1080p as well which means a fresh coat of paint for the guys too.
Squawks in wishful time skip*
I've shared some of the designs waaaaaaay back on Twitter (Tyson and Roswell), a lot more of the recent ones on Discord (Orlando, Sal, Oswin, Hoss and Benson) and will be looking to finish off Dean, Dave, David and a few others soon.
There'll likely be a post on Patreon and maybe a dev log on here when they're a bit closer to being ready.
Oooh, good to know! Glad to see this project progressing!
Well, looking forward to seeing those that's for sure. Keep up the good work!
**SPOILERS**
I was surprised so many people hate Roswell, though admittedly I'm a bit biased towards him because he's the one I find most aesthetically appealing. I decided to replay and see what issue was, and there were a few things I noticed:
On the first day he fires off one or two bants that don't really land. It feels like it's supposed to give off a playful teasing nature but no one really fires back or laughs with him so it appears a bit more one sided and mean spirited.
I feel like when he calls Tyson a puppy it should be played off as more banter, but the issue is after this he doesn't do any more bantering. So now whenever he insults Tyson it feels like he's specifically targeting him (which maybe he is, I think that's a reasonable character choice, but it makes him less likeable)
Then there's the conversation with him and Orlando just before choosing a partner. Here a few bants are fired at Roswell and he's got the frowny face on. In fact he's got a frowny face on for most of what should be a light hearted conversation. This kind of gives the impression he can dish it out but can't take it.
After that there's the whole thing with thinking Tyson is incapable of love. So he's prided himself as being a pretty scientifically minded individual. And he gives good reasoning to Dave in the kitchen. And I can see him throwing an offhand remark like "Yea if you're even capable of love." like mild banter. But when they're back in the dining room the way he kind of states it as a proven fact to Tyson's face that he's incapable of love without provocation. I feel like it goes against his character to jump to conclusions and make such hard definite statements. Definitely a bit over the top.
So to sum up: I think the way to make him more likeable is to spread out his snarky comments a bit more among the group, then for the group to retort in kind and for him to take it as good natured ribbing. That way when he makes remarks to Tyson they seem within character and not targeted. But you can still give his Tyson remarks a bit more a sting as compared to the others when the tension rises so it's reasonable when Tyson reacts negatively.
And as a side: I can maybe see after all this how bragging about being the smartest might rub some people the wrong way, and how it might come off as comes off as pretentious. Maybe change it to something like "Well intelligence is an immeasurable quality, so I can't say whether or not I'm the smartest, but I do think I'm the best suited for conducting research and mentally draining tasks." Or just leave him as pretentious, everyone needs flaws. (Or have Dave call him out and that can be part of his arc)
It's tricky, because Roswell by design isn't meant to like Tyson and is meant to be actively antagonistic towards him specifically. Which is why specific remarks about his capacity to love are meant to be a bit "Whoa that's a bit much."
The problem as far as I've noticed is just the lack of things in the early days that show that he's a good person just a bit tactless at times. I'm already drafting *something* to potentially fix that but it might take a bit to weave in seamlessly.
That's good to hear, I just think if you throw a few more witty insults around as jokes it would disguise the genuinely barbed remarks better.
Anyway whatever you choose to do I still like Roswell anyway.
I love this game stories. First time I see this game I think It's gonna be bloody in the doom scene. So I just overthinking lol and i want to know how can I hug sal because I play almost everyway. I can but he push me away thanks for making this game 💖
Are all of Sal's CG obtainable? I'm missing 2 but I can't seem to find it.
And if they are obtainable, could someone nudge me in the right direction?
No, some are there as placeholders for next build.
Oh, thanks for answering!
I have another question though, in Orlando's route, is it possible to convince him to sleep with Dave for the night? And in Sal's route, when you approach him at the pool when he was talking about what happened to her sister, is it possible to hug him instead of pushing Dave away?
Sorry, someone in the comments mentioned that they did this but I can't seem to get those particular scenes, so kinda desperate now haha
1) No. There's a reason why he turns Dave down and that's consistent across all instances.
2) Yes. It's tied to affection points. If you have enough, the 'correct' option is to hug. If you don't have enough, the correct option is to give him space.
Ah, thank you so much for answering! Sorry for asking too many questions haha
Also, as a sidenote, loving the game! You're making an awesome game and I can't wait for the day it's completed!
I deeply connect with this statement
Just replayed his route again and...once again....got pushed away....as small as it may seem, as a person, hugs are like my one source of comfort (omg eww I’m sorry if this looks like a guilt trip but I’m being so serious here), so like....I kinda want it...sorry for bugging y’all but like I genuinely don’t know what I’m doing wrong (Insert sad music) to not get the comfort he deserves😤
About to play the game again to see if I can get that hug that we are looking for!
Also, no worries! Hugs are definitely a good source of comfort. Though, at the moment, it seems that a hug we are desiring for is from a certain reserved scaly swimmer! Haha!
Edit: Got the hugs! Short but nice.
This is currently me asking how to accomplish that goal...🥺
Ohh...I always let him punch Dean, even if I play Dean’s route🤪 Shall replay tonight and will fight for my hug😤
So I've problably read the password for day 11 but I can't figure it out. (all I want is a nudge to the password)
Dave's conversations and reflections :)
Hey there ^^
I just want to say thank you for this game. I am a computer science student currently still attending college and one of my dreams is to make my own furry game. So I found this game by accident and honestly it is pretty inspiring for me. I have been wanting to try with Ren'py as well and I am just getting started.
So I am curious, do you work in a team or alone for this project? and if this is your first project, I have to say I am truly impressed because it is a pretty ingenious game and the writings for the characters are really good :)
Just want to say thank you again because this inspired me and I can't wait to see this game finished.
That's all from me, thank you ^^
Pretty much all alone. I've had some help here and there and I've collaborated with one other to make the OST.
Otherwise I have a degree in interactive entertainment so glad to know that my qualification is paying off! Thanks!
I see, well that's quite impressive. Nicely done hehe
Good luck with it :)
Heyo! Just wanted to say that I really love what you have so far! I've done all the routes up to the current end of what you have out (excluding Roswell's route), and I'll put the rest of my thoughts below a spoiler warning just to be safe ;P
***SPOILERS***
It's really well done, and the sex talks with Orlando and Dean regarding Dave's lack of experience caught me off guard with how upfront and good they were with their subjects! (especially since one of my prior experiences with NSFW VNs had no consent in one of the NSFW scenes....)
I love all of the main characters, except Roswell. It's been mentioned a while ago that Roswell is an asshole to everyone, including Dave at times. I don't blame him for not forgiving Tyson at the drop of a hat (nor would I expect him to), but his absolute lack of trust in Dave regarding Tyson is really dickish of him, especially that ultimatum he was leading up to (or that Dave assumed Roswell was leading up to).
But honestly? I don't think Roswell being an ass needs to be changed. Sometimes some people are just unapologetically rude and mean, and just pretend to be nice to a select few people for whatever their reasons are, and they won't change when confronted about it. It's not often to see this being portrayed in stories (at least not without said asshole friend acting almost comically cruel and the character they're friends with acting completely oblivious to this), and I think it'd be nice just to have that kind of experience shown in here.
But if that's not at all what you intended for Roswell, then I understand if you want to change that. After all, this is your story and your characters! lol
I look forward to future updates!
He just needs to be toned down a little is all. Like... I was aiming for tactless (almost in the same vein as Dean) but not 'asshole'. The cast is varied enough that I didn't expect everyone to like every single cast member but the reaction to Roswell in particular is just very strong.
thank you for reminding me my tear ducts still work! 10/10
Hey so i dont want to be that guy but.... the first Password like the very first when you enter the mansion is that a easter egg or a important vault... i'm a new player so i dont know if i missed something haha
Easter Egg.
Don't worry, you'll know if you missed something important.
Ok, ALOT to say! 1.THIS IS AMAZING! 2.This is extremely emotional and also very fun! The effort being put into this a grand i can tell! Even the sketches show so much more then they let on! This vn is very mysterious and i LOVE that aspect of it! It really does make you feel good about the great moments in life not just as Dave but as yourself! Also the passwords are relatively easy to find but some not so much. It gives you a great chance to really pay attention and earn the good times! 10/10 would go to this mansion again! Also Thank you Grizz this really is amazing!
**Spoilers?**
Okay so like...I did the do, but like what in the heck was that
Hmmm...............
What is Tyson second gene is he aint a wolf...something to do with the patch around his eyes
he says his mother was a dog when you talk about it with him i think
Her mother is a b**** other term for female dog lol
I like the gamee its amazing and so far i gathered 10 passwords and finished all routes and alt but i cant seem to find the 11th password ;-; am i missing out on something send halp pls XD
I love Hoss the most btw :3
Nah, some of them are technically listed as optional despite changing the narrative. So long as everyone's alive, you're on the right track.
Okie thanks xD
This game will be translated into Spanish? OwO
If it does, it'll likely be near the end of development given the script is still in development. There are no plans to translate into any specific language during development however.
So dave father name is dave?
His full name is available in game. If you need to ask, you haven't found it yet.
How about a spoiler alert for those who want to find the passwords themselves? -.-
As of right now there are 11 narratively important passwords. Any others either are Easter eggs or aren't passwords.
**SPOILER**
There’s 11?? Geez, I must not be paying enough attention...I’ve only gotten the route specific ones, Benson’s saving and bad end, and Day 10’s password...There’s a word in the list that asks for a different day, but no matter what day I try, it keeps asking me for the specific day, leading me to believe I’m either doing something wrong or it’s for a future update... so I’m left with a password that’s supposedly usable and another I apparently haven’t found yet..............¿?is this normal?¿
Weird question but what day?
**SPOILER**
That's also my question...the vault never tells you when to use a password, but my concern was that a word I entered is apparently a password. The issue I've asked about was me not knowing if the word I used was for a future or current build, so I'm a little stuck in a loop as well...
Hey!
I've looked through all of the comments for hints to get the day 10 password, and I've certainly found some hints alright, and don't get me wrong I've tried to find the password using these hints. . But all of them just don't make any sense. Anybody got any, more obvious tips? Nothing too bold like revealing the password, but maybe another nudge in the right direction? (All of this is probably me just being an a clueless idiot lol.)
its in the convosation with benson, think about what dave thinks at the vault.
Thanks! I thought it was there but I probably overlooked something.
I love how I can just play through the game time and time again and never get to a point of sheer “well I’ll just wait for next update.” It seems like there’s always something new I miss and more elements that’s remind me of how great this game is. I love how every character (maybe except Roswell for reasons) has such interesting styles of their development, even when you aren’t playing their route. Also I love how unskippable the dialogue is. It’s just that good.😩P. S. - Sal is best boi😩
Does Roswell not have an interesting style of development?
His development per se isn’t an issue, but during most conversations with literally anyone other than Dave, I feel like he’s literally always trying to talk someone down. There are many scenes where he’s seen as disrespectful, literally provoking Tyson multiple times, despite his whole “I don’t like him” perspective, being super unreasonable, and, while it’s just his world-building, literally downplaying Sal’s intelligence. He doesn’t really seem to have positive moments unless you specifically play his route, and those feelings are ONLY for Dave and he just seems to kick everyone else to the curb. I can understand if he’s meant to have this attitude because of how early on him and Dave became friends, but his blindsided attachment to the past is a little overboard. Every other character is positive (or trying to be in Ty’s case) in most scenarios if they don’t involve the deaths. Even with Hoss, if it sounds negative, it really isn’t because he usually has a more analytical approach to things, whereas Roswell just spits venom to everyone. I remember him kind of admitting his jealousy, but he can be a real downer.
That... is a big problem that I didn't notice until now. There should've been something in the way of seeing his interactions with his closer friends (Hoss and Orlando) but I guess I've just internalized it with how often it gets brought up on the server. Thanks for this, I might have to rework a couple earlier scenes, or inject a couple nicer ones just to make him seem less of a douche because he really isn't. Tactless at times sure, but he does have friends that like him for good reasons.
Thanks for hearing me out...I really didn’t like singling him out, especially since the whole mansion hangout was his idea, so any change is welcome😁
okat wtf.....I am just getting death scene after death scene...and is the same day.....What am i suppose to do?
If you've played through to the end of where you're at, you should have an idea. Think things through about what you can learn from those deaths and what you might be able to use to stop it from happening.
But all choices just lead to the same death...
Without more information I can't assist further, but sometimes it's not a matter of decisions but interacting with game mechanics.
Okay I figure out...Should not skip so damn fast
And the password...I cant find any numbers,letter nor even symbols that can be slap into the keypad...
The first password is given for free, its in red, after that you will need to pay close attention to things that are said during the day and the bad endings. Don't worry too much about the choices they most affect orlando route at the start and are more for character development than affecting the bad endings, endings are all to do with password.
Does that mean the whole sentence has to be written or just a word in that sentence or a word that we have to figure out?
Just the right word
I've looked at the previous replies from the developer, I'm still stuck on day 10s password, have been for weeks. I've thoroughly checked all the text in roswell, hoss, and tysons route and nothing stands out to me from the clues given in front of the vault, is there something I'm missing?
1. It's in every route.
2. You're overthinking it.
3. Dave remarks about an interaction he had on that day.
4. It's said in the 'bad' route if you didn't put it.
I must say, i love the fnaf reference in dean's route jsns
Ye same hahahaha xD
So I've been to the discord server recently and was wondering as who this Rami character is. Is he part of the cast? Love the new emote btw
"It's a surprise tool that'll help us later!" ;D
He'll show up later, maybe not for a while but yes he's part of the cast.
Hi everyone, can someone tell me how to get the first imagen with Tyson please? Ah and the second one for hoss too unu please
Tysons 1st is from another route, think it mite be orlandos bad end but not sure been along time since i unlocked it. Hoss's 2nd i believe is one of the CGs that is currently bugged along with one of deans and cant be unlocked at the moment.
Thank you uwu
Played through all routes including the alt one and gathered 11 passwords so far. Story has good suspense and mystery that gets you invested in the characters whichever route you pick. Really looking forward to you finishing this project Grizz.
Eyy i finished the game and only got 10 passowords ;-; am i missing something ? ;-;
Nah you're fine. The 11th one doesn't do anything right now might be used in later dates tho
Thanks :3
That password on Day 11... that was absolutely brilliant. It made me think thoroughly and yet the answer was so obvious! The hints were there but it took me about 30 minutes. This game is fantastic and I can't wait for the next build!
Care to give me a nudge in the right direction
Well what is happening in the visual novel? Dave's friends are dying, killed by something unknown. A large amount of people being killed... there's a word for that, isn't there?
I'm mad as hell cause I tried this one earlier and it didn't work.
Either that or I'm a major dummy and misspelled it.
10/10 VN anyways, I wanna see my boy Tyson make it out of this by the end.
Um,so, I tried entering random phrases into the vault at day 1 (with Tyson) and when I typed in "The End" the game closes??
Like, all other phrases I came up with doesn't do that and when I tried "The End" again (like 3 times, I think) it still closes?
Is this phrase significant? I'm so confused.
Help. :C
It's probably just an EG
there was somthing there but was removed
from grizz 2 months ago - Well, it doesn't crash so much as force quits like I'm telling it to. After all, if you know that password, what else did you expect? What was there was a relic from early day testing and in no way was canon.
So, it wasn't important then. Thanks. C:
Edit: I went through the game file, so I guess I can still read it XD.
Your clues are what Dave reflects on in front of the vault. That was the purpose of that scene.
After reading the comments, I realized that the game really resembles the Zero Escape series and it is very cool, because I have loved the Zero Escape universe for a very long time. (But not as much as this one))
I completely passed this game with all variations of endings. I must say that this game has become more than just a game for me. I experienced a storm of emotions. At first I was depressed for a week, then I was inspired to take up sports and did them until I was exhausted, then I just played at night and enjoyed spending time with that universe. Only one character made me feel all these emotions. Tyson. I fell in love with him and now I'm looking forward to continuing my relationship with him. Please, GRIZZ, go on, never stop. Your game has made me a better person, and that's not an empty word...although it might sound a little silly.....( love ya, Grizz ♥ and THANK YOU)
Mind telling me how to save him i can't seem to find the right variation to get a good ending
To save Tyson? Your clue is the name of the game.
This is probably a dumb question... But how do I update this?
Just download the latest version, once you've downloaded the apk, install it and it'll ask if you want to update the game then bam, you can continue playing!
ooh thanks that's a big help for me I'm kinda new with these things... Thanks again
This Novella is just super! You managed to combine both a detective and a horror movie. Everything is just perfectly intertwined and does not interfere with each other. I will look forward to continuing the story.
I'm thinking, why can you write your own name on the coffee cup at the beginning if no matter what you type you will always be named Dave?
you used to be able to rename dave but that was changed, the coffee thing is just a little easter egg now
It seems like i can't figure out the password for Hoss day 10, any hints?
Edit :
Nvm i got it, i should be more aware next time
Please tell me how ,I've been stuck for days i don't know where is it , im on dean but i read that it was in the reflection, what reflection like there's no mirrors or something like that , and i dont see any red words like before , are they all gonna be the same color? I dont know i just... HELP ME PLEASE 😭😭
So.. I played this game a while back. Like a half a year or so ago. And recently i picked up another game called "Zero escape: Nonary game" Boy oh boy. I guess i just have a thing for games like that and this because i loved both of them. But now im wondering. Did you draw inspiration from the Zero Escape series? It shows quite a bit in this. Not a bad thing at all either. In fact i think that makes it quite compelling!
I did! Although while I played those games and loved them, they took the source material and interpreted it in a very over the top and specific way. So the same themes might appear, but how they're handled is a bit differently. The main one is the concept of morphic resonance: Don't go expecting Dave to be an Esper and you should be fine!
Hi
Is there a password available in last day of Roswell route?? (Day 10/11)
yes, keep in mind what dave thinks about at the vault
Hey! I have a question, Is there some DLC of Password or another version coming in Spanish?
Nothing is planned at this point in time.
Ok Thx :3
Is there some kind of glitch that makes some of the CGs black and white? They looked incomplete, more like rough drafts/sketches. Is that a glitch or will the finished product come in the upcoming updates? The CGs that seem glitched are from Dean's route, Tyson's route, and one from Orlando's route. Hopefully this will be fixed.
There was a vote on Patreon about this. Essentially people wanted sketchy/more CGs and faster plot development rather than complete CGs when needed with possible delays given the time needed to render them out.
Eventually they'll all be done in full colour. If you view it in the game once, it unlocks in the gallery and when the assets get swapped out, you'll see them there.
what does 'when the assets get swapped out' mean?
when he removes the sketches and adds in the finished versions it will be in the same spot in the gallery so you wouldnt be forced to replay the same scene if you didnt want too