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Finally managed to beat the game after ~6 hours, an earthblade carried me early and and I managed to get a cleaver setup together by the time I hit max level.

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forget about snakes

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Never once got any mana regenerating non-consumable item or other offensive staves. Used up my mana too soon got stuck against a mob with too much defense to scratch through. Staff did about 315 damage at that point. Wizard tower build was fun though!

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This the best game even u have been playing it for the last 4 hours

first kill i got this +jade axe from spiner dude (i died cuz i pick bow route)

I don't understand why this helmet is being penalized when its condition is "if there is a space above this" and there is no space above it: https://prnt.sc/tX7bLynIDTkm

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It doesn't need to be an empty space. So the space with the sword still counts

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This is a really neat take on roguelikes, although I did beat it first try with the absolutely broken assassin's dagger which scales infinitely and I got lucky getting it 2nd floor. That combined with the whetstone for 200% damage and two flasks to get stupidly huge energy supplies killed the final boss in one turn. That being said, there's clearly potential for cooler combos and it isn't like I only needed the dagger to progress. The needler carried me early and the armor set drops allowed me to tank almost every hit. Looking forward to seeing the kickstarter succeeding and hope for smooth development for Jasper.

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So I just did my luckiest run ever with shield spirit+cleavers (stopped at floor 62), and here is little collection of bugs I've encountered on my way:)

First, you can change between backpack and the map while attacking in combat (cleavers take quite some time to do their things), and when you do so, "End Turn" button disappears. It will return if you go to the map and back again once you finished attacking though. By the way, I can't even tell for sure how many times I've accidentally clicked End Turn instead of actually making my turns, can't help but click this sneaky button sometimes, not even sure if its positioning or its look or what else:)

On the floor 40 I somehow got scammed for my key, opening a door on Floor 39 and expecting The Swamp on 40-42 segment, but got into the Caves instead. Maybe that was my missclick although Im almost sure I picked the right one, but maybe.

SFX volume option resets after refreshing the page, while still showing the old position of the slider. So things are getting loud until you move it back and forth a bit:)

There is also a bug I've mentioned here before, with relics sometimes stop applying their effect after reorganizing during combat.

Sometimes map can generate a healer (I don't think I've seens the chest like this but might also be the case) with a locked door you don't have to open because there is a free passage from one of the other sides:)

Now a couple thoughts, of course everything in the endless run is not supposed to be perfectly balanced but it still shows some flaws imo.

Poison has mediocre effect when used by players, even if you manage to find multiple poison arrows in an archer build, but completely destroys players with no reliable way to counter that (other than OTK anyone with poison). The fact it stacks and doesn't really go away means pretty high numbers eventually, but for monsters and their life pool its far from being effective compared to direct hits of certain builds, and for players its 1 to 3 turns before you die even with max life of 200 which takes like 50 floors to build:)

Burn is something players don't even have access to, but also destroys a lot of builds that are not block-heavy or have too much damage to care:)

Character max life in general seems pretty weak as you progress, even in regular magma core its already pretty non-existent with monsters damage numbers in there, you yet again need high block or damage. Ways to recover life are also a bit limited, but there are some in case it would be relevant at some point:)

Vampirism counts as a separate hit on weapon use, so you take damage from spikes twice. This feels pretty bad in general, there is not too much sources of this stat and it would be nice if it ignored spikes like the arrows do.

I'd really like to see some gold-based weapon at some point (to scale your damage by hoarding more gold), even without piggybanks and other stuff you eventually have hundreds of gold:)

Swamp area is good because you have a chance for badger forge events here, which otherwise you can only find later in the magme core. But it is pretty frustrating sometimes to not have a single one in multiple swamps, like it took more than 40 floors for me to find second rage upgrade for a weapon and it wasn't even a swamp :D Would be nice if you'll have a guaranteed forge once per swamp if you decide to go there, as its also has harder enemies than the caves imo.

Overall game is great, can't wait to see and try more stuff (and I still have plenty to experience, game just doesn't allow me to become a mage yet for example :D).

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I've definitely seen the chest one multiple times, with not having to unlock the door as I can just go through the other end! I also am pretty sure I had the glitch with the swamp too, I had it after floor 3 where instead of getting to the swamp the post-key stairs took me to the caves instead.

Yeah, then its probably level generation bug and not just me not paying attention:) Also it was just the healer when I noticed it multiple times, think I just didn't pay attention when it happened with chests:)

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Here is the setup I had that got me through Magma Core for the first time.

i wish i found a roof

I cannot figure out at all how to get to the new Swamp stuff!

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You need to bring a key after the first boss!

I think mine glitched then, as the stairs after the key took me to the caves.

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do you guys have any tips for magma core?


the area just seems unfair

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I could only get through there by playing aggressively, focusing on attacking and getting as much damage per attack as possible.

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Ah so suddenly your thorns build that you were so eagerly spamming in the comment section before does not help you out at all so far into the game? What a surprise!

If you want to get past that area you either need to kill everything in one turn which is difficult without a bit of good luck or have both moderate damage output, plus moderate defense output. I would recommend you stack on armor pieces and aim specifically for the archangel armor and the paladin's plate because one adds +2 haste and the other gives you 8 armor which makes a difference since early on enemies can not hurt you at all, but once you arrive at the Magma Core it effectively reduces enemy damage by 1/3.

For Snakes and bats, you will either need a cleansing rag + heartstone gem combo or a My First Wand to counter the poison.

When it comes down to what type of weapon you should use, aim for a bow, a wand, cleavers, shivs or accessories that increase your damage output.

The Ring Of Doom is very potent in that department, and, with the assumption that you have a considerable amount of mana stones, you can dish out over 30 damage per hit easily which should kill anything under 3 turns. Spend money at a shop to buy one if you can.

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One more thing to say. I have some of the worst luck in the universe.

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It is an excuse and a bad one at that. I am decently certain you picked up 6 spiked helmets because you believed that thorns would carry you, which meant afterward that you would not have enough space to put in any other useful item.

The My First Wand build is so easy because you are almost guaranteed to find a mana stone after each battle, I think it is a 50% chance average and the wand itself is a common. Even when I did not need it I came across this item at least once per run.

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I had one or two spike helmets a cactus and 3-5 roses over like 10 different runs dude.  Actually I wasn’t spamming it I was telling people it would help with stuff like blademaster or axemen. Having 6 spike helmets would be bad because they would all cancel each other’s block out and I would be screwed.


Also by magma core I mean floors 6-9 and whenever I pick up an item to try and do a cool build with it and I drop it for something better like I drop an arrow for a cool sword and then I get the other thing needed for that build.

I have seen archangel armor ONCE and never seen paladin armor. Are you talking about plated armor with that one or is it some entirely different op item.

That it the end of this response. Goodbye.

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3-5 roses, are you crazy?! They are worse in every aspect compared to the spiked helmets! At least try to get good thorns items like the scales or the coral, not roses!

Christ, I feel like you are a total noob rudely talking over veterans on the contents of the game because every single time you comment you say something completely absurd and occasionally inane. Just block me already, you are getting on my nerves.

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Cleaver build and have healing and some spike

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Enemy poison and burn is far too strong, you should add ways to deal with it besides the one potion that purges debuffs and the rare stone that removes 1 stack per attack, it also feels like if you don't go cleavers or bow you can't win, which is a shame cuz this a unique game that I want to see grow. I think if you make the snakes poison an attack it would balance it out, plus it would make sense as snakes bite to inject venom.

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You definitely can "win" (beat regular 9 floors) with more than just cleavers or bow. In fact thats what I was doing most of the time, and usually breakpoint was Magma Core+ (F16-18) for most of the setups. Yes you can get unlucky with either drops or the enemies / events, but thats how the game work.

Regarding poison and burn, I agree. Poison is simply cannot be survived after regular floors anymore, burn can be mitigated by block but on high values you also start having problems (like you cannot build more than 999 block for some reason and will die eventually).

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does the luck potion actually do anything?

with each stack of luck you get one item to be rarer


if you have 4 luck rings the rewards from winning battles will always have a legendary and if you have more than 4 you will get multiple things to be not a common

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pretty sure it doesn't work like that, the luck rings specifically state that they increase luck after the combat, which would mean that the luck stat is increased permanently no matter if you have that original luck ring or not

also I'm pretty sure thejaspel stated in another comment that legendary items wouldn't be guaranteed based on luck

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Finally complete my build on floor 118 :D

I'm thinking whether to go deeper

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Does anyone have any tips for this game?

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Bows and arrow are op, they ignore thorns.
There are different types of cleavers that sinergize with each other doing incredible amounts of damage.
Haste, rage and dodge are op atributes, if you can find items that give that atributes then pick them.
Lastly look at the pictures of people that comment here and see what kind of builds they have, there are really good players here.

If you are new to the game I would suggest you to disregard the other suggestion since it requires heavy foresight, luck and preparedness which is difficult to follow through for newer players.

Although I have played the game for over a month, I only ever got a cleaver build running once, an archer build running 8 times (6 out of those 8 times were thanks to Matthew), so my recommendation would be to stack up on armor pieces because enemy spikes and burn become irrelevant anyway with a hefty block.

The archangel armor and the plate armor are both very good, the former gives haste, the latter adds 8 block which is massive! Then, there is a bug that causes the ninja suit to add armor instead of removing it if you are affected by haste which again the archangel armor provides.

Your last concern should be poison because right now you are practically invulnerable.

To counter poison you can use a combo of both a cleansing rag, plus either a vampiric gem or a heartstone gem. Alternatively, if you run a mana-based build a my first wand will always recover all the health you have lost due to poison.

As for damage, I recommend a full-on magic build, it is an easy build to get going for newbies because wands deal extra damage on top of your action turns which you can use to refill on mana thanks to the spellbooks.

Although yes, an archer or cleaver build is objectively superior and will always get you farther in endless, it is difficult to build. Then again, as a long-time player, I struggle to get those builds going because they require lucky drops and foresight. Even when I did get the build running, it would not scale well in endless because I stop findind the items I need. For cleavers, I had like 9 of them queen, king, golden and normal in my inventory, and yet, I could not progress farther because that was as powerful as my character was gonna get by the end of the day.

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Didn't realize it before it was too late but almost an invincible build (only thing that could really harm me before I could take it out was anything with constant generation of spikes)

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This had amazing damage ouput, I was generating 4 rage every bow use but I was lacking in the defense department. To think that I crossed the blacksmith 4 times is ridiculous.

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1000 damage

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So you went full offense and it is still enough on floor 90? I'm currently at F60 playing shield spirit version of the cleavers, not sure how I'd pass some fights with only one dodge per combat:)
Edit: yeah with +4 rage and 9 triggers per use it should be doable, I literally got 1st rage uprade in first swamp and then second at the floor 52 :D

Central cleaver got 2 golden whetstones and +2 rage which translates into +12 per shield use, shield has +3 haste.

So lucky that saves got fixed just when I was able to make such a setup. Never got past F25 before:)

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Still enough on floor 99.  In fact every combat is ended within 2 rounds :D 

King and axeman will deal some spike damage though, so regenerative whetstone is extremely useful.

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Yes, I was using the whetstone as well:) Would probably go for pure cleavers if I find enough queens, but shield version wasn't bad either:) Was just a "little" unlucky with finding 1 rage during floors 6-62 (and one in first swamp).

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This got a little silly. Just had to survive the first hit and the rest was passive 

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finally got to do a pic run! was killed by bat's poison

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So far ive had a lot of fun playing this gae and cant wait for tye full release. I do have one suggestion: maybe add 2 more chests that you can choose at the beginning so you can get a heads up as a mage or archer as well?

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well you used to be able to get differnt items at the beginning after you died by talking to the "mouse guru". I forgot his name, but they removed him.

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Matthew? They didn't remove him, can start with his bonuses still. Iirc even on fresh save you can do that by pressing "M" but I'm not sure if thats still a thing, I do have an option to start run with his bonuses though.

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I geuss it's just an issue with my saves then.

hopefully, this game in the future, won't be like what happened to seraphs last stand

What happened with Seraph?

The shield icon seems to be using anti-aliasing while everything else isn't.
Just a small visual issue.
So far, game going great, keep the good work devs ;)

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It seems like sometimes items can lose effects they receive from relics, very likely on reorganizing during combat. Just lost Shield Spirit effect on my shield and Frog Totem on the wand at the same time, was wondering why my weapons stopped trigger after reorganizing. It isn't critical for my particular setup as I was able to reorganize again and received stats back, but might kill many people otherwise by demanding 3 extra energy to fix it.
Also I've only noticed it now but it happened few times with wand and fluff relic before, I just had no idea why sometimes wand recovers 2 mana on use and sometimes it doesn't.

战斗开始的时候有11费

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a quit option be nice!!

Well my suggestion is, try not to kick trash cans again.

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I heard this game has a discord server

Could someone send me a link?

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https://discord.com/invite/v7dJYk6gtw

oh I’m blind

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I've noticed that weapons dealing both normal and vampiric damage trigger spikes twice, which makes it a bit trickier to use vampirism as a means of mitigating spikes damage, even with Cleansing Flame. Is this the intended behavior?

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Nice pickaxe run

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I really enjoyed the game.. I am wondering why this is in the Deck Building category?

You can access all your items at any time and do not rely on a random drawing order as is the core of deck-building games: The luck or bad luck of getting the item you need when you need it..

Infact this is what makes the combats little exciting, as you can one-trick-pony almost all enemies, once you have a good build.

Again: I did enjoy it still :-)

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We chose deck-building as it is the closest genre available. "Inventory management" isn't really a genre.

And we agree that some builds can be a bit static. We hope to improve this with more dynamic items and more varied characters in future updates. 

Glad you enjoyed it though! Please checkout our Kickstarter:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/backpackhero/backpack-hero

Thank you!

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Is it just me, or in this game you can take any items and assemble an imbalanced build? Like in this run i have 8 mana and killed the final boss in ONE turn. All you need is 2 arrows and Mouse wood from the first boss.

We're still working on the balance! But yes, archery is a little overpowered at the moment!

Despite this, the game is very interesting and fun. I'll be glad to play the full version when it comes out :)

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To be fair, you have an awesome energy build that would be rare to assemble as shallow as depth 9.

Ah, because i get 2 gold for every kill, i farmed like 150 and then i got lucky with wheel of fortune which gave me these 3 rings. The problem is that this is my second run and on my first one i got an OP build with 16 rage on turn one and killed boss too. So its hard to get the same build, but you will probably get a different one.

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PLEASE add a way to exit to main menu in game. Having to restart only by dying or entirely closing the game is incredibly infuriating

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Okay! We will add an option in the "options" menu with our next update!

Thank you! Really appreciate it!

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Saving isn't working- it just says "save failed", and sure enough, it doesn't save.

We are working on this bug. Sorry about it!

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Floor 101. My favourite level so far ;P

WHUT

cleaver build on endless nice

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Hmm, is it just me or the game is not saving properly these days? I got returned to the tutorial without getting the dying benefits every single run. I tried out like 2 different browsers, with and without incognito but still get the 'not saved'. Clicking the 'Save game' button does not change anything either. The stats does look normal and it registers my deaths. Maybe I will manage to find a solution, but for now I basically get -10 hp for this.

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Final build for me, with +1 rage cleaver& +2 haste mirror shield.

By the way, there's a shortcut to stack up the shield : with haste, the ninja armour doesn't clear it (-100%), but multiples (+n*100%) in turn. I wonder it's a bug or a feature, pretty convenient still.

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Everything is a feature if it makes the game more fun.

很喜欢的一个游戏,希望能有中文

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to try out a mage build very fun

New personal best, I'm still learning the game. Cleavers are great but in deeper floors fall flat, I was waiting for better cleavers but they never show up. I had crazy defense but venom snakes ended my run.

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