Well, the game is dead, and I doubt the comments are being checked, but I finally got around to trying the "full" prologue (I played the first demo a while ago), and I gotta say, this was fun! I liked the characters, the stages were nice, storyline was getting interesting. I've never been big on mini-games, but they were alright enough for making use of the space. Faster dash would have been good. Hopefully the newer, smaller games are able to get made and released to follow up.
(just gonna lay it all out) 1. MGI was a big project. It was well funded, sadly and if I'm getting my stories straight patreon was well patreon. They wanted a huge cut and Red wasn't going to give in. I respect him on that.
2. This issue is tech grew faster than red could work.
3. (an offical statement "The story started in MGI Prologue will be expanded upon on different games that I've been working on.
"MGI prologue was becoming too dated and development taking too long, so I decided to cut my losses and move the story to smaller, more manageable games.
The core story has been mostly unadulterated, but not all characters will get as much focus as it was originally intended, at least for now..."-Red ( Jan 2nd, 2024) There is more to this, but this is the core.
4.I'm not sure what he means by "cut his losses" As people would have 100% would have supported him.
5.The other issue is his ego got in the way, I'm pretty sure some talented people were lined up willing to help. But he wanted to work on the game himself. I get it his story, his baby. I can respect it but it got the game killed.
6. (3. continue) "Love;Again are visual novels focused on dating and ecchi rather than straight up hentai.
MGI Saga is focused on world building and tries to be more of a game than the other entries in the series.
I understand not everyone will like these changes, but it is what it is."- red (again more to this but this still another part to 3.)
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I'm not really sure what truly happened. I feel he honestly just lost his drive. He might be making more but sadly I feel that he did damage to his reputation. MGI as i said before was more or less the gateway for monster girls/hentai. Yeah it's a hentai/lewd game blah blah blah, but I am 100% certain it would been a staple of hentai games.
Wow yeah, I couldn't have said it better. Honestly its just such a shame cause the game or rather the prologue was so unique like no other Hentai Game. I was really looking forward to the future of this game but was short lived sadly.
What little I played was amazing in the prologue and I was having fun with it. t sucks that it it getting scrapped cuase he's too proud to ask for help essentially... really sucks
Patreon is based on percentages. It never changes. Sorry but, that's not accurate Yes, Patreon was charging him 200,000 a year.
That's because his page was generating 2 million a year at one point.
It's percentages, they scale the bigger the number is. That's how just about all services work, they take a percentage, which means more profit to them based on success.
AH I see. Bit of miss info, Looked it back up. What is was that they(patreon) kept updating their policies, and eventually targeted Red because of the game.
saying that, the money issue(s) from patreon is known problem as well.
I doubt he was targeted, per say. It seems unlikely. As I mentioned, at some point they were getting 20,000 a month in income from his page. They really wouldn't want to target someone under those circumstances. They did update their TOS and do so often, but I've been on Patreon for years and it's never been anything excessive that they require or ask of Patrons. The main reason they update their TOS is because some developers try to skirt the rules by bending them. Those rules need to be amended once people find out about it.
Naturally, it's up to the developer whether they want to adhere or decline. It seems this dev did, for whatever reason.
I don't think this game will ever be finished, but I do come and check on it from time to time. Just to see if I'm wrong. ^_^
For projects of this scale they should've just gone to platforms like kickstarter. The problem with Patreon as a longer-term fund-as-you-develop platform is that none of the parties gets any guarantee.
Patreon is meant for regular content delivery like podcasts, video clips or illustrations. If your game is not able to deliver substantial updates at least on a quarterly basis then Patreon is a really bad idea for raising funds.
Back then kickstarter didn't allow adult content games to be funded or placed on their platform. This is something they only recently began to do. More importantly, 95% of kickstarters never get funded. Patreon is vastly better for funding what you enjoy doing.
Actually from what i read on multiple reddits and other sites. It wasn't that. I think that the Patreons or simply to say. People who supported him, went basically against him for releasing everything very very slowly (Despite him saying it will arrive soon, but they weren't wrong since that part with frog girl, forgot her name. was there after very long time)
And some ppl were checking files of the game and somehow found out that those characters used in game are not made by him, which i dunno about that. I could like 50% believe it and 50% not believe it. But it's closer to not believing it. I mean i think it make sense that those characters could be made by him, since i mean did you saw any 18+ animations with those models ? Not including the game itself.
But Reddamz himself said that, patreon was demanding control over his game so he left patreon. And said that the game will be sold after it will be finished. He said that in 2021. That was his last tweet on twitter. With 3D model showcase of a new girl. So who knows. Maybe he is working on it. Maybe he gave up. But i mean 2+ years and no sign of him, nor any info. Who knows.
There is information elsewhere that he gives updates and is active. The game MGI is done as is. *With more stories being released in smaller settings*
The main issues: was Patreon changing their tos and him not being able to have enough time.
(There was a lot of deserved back lash that he got and is getting. I usually take the side of the dev, especially because a small team or working alone. The issue I have hear is that he 100% needed help and refused. Which is his right, but it cost the game's 'life'. Even though he gives updates, it does feel he took the money and ran sometimes.)
The things I quoted was just said this year by him.
Thanks for that info. I could see a game of this following being overwhelming. I can also understand why he refused help. I had a few people approach me , offering "help" for one of my projects. Before they even got hired properly, they started trying to take over.
He's probably had to deal with a lot. Stuff we may never know.
Yeah he is active on discord. He gives info to people. He actually made an halloween event for MGI. But he is working on like other game? that he then wants to combine with MGI? If i got it correctly. But to me MGI feels just undone. I mean there are many characters that need some "scenes" if you know what i mean. And we don't know what happened after the current "ending" of MGI. So for anybody. He has a discord where he gives info about upcoming things.
A shame indeed, but he needs to do what's best for himself. Still, is this the most updated version of the game we can get, or is there more content that was made available somewhere else?
Honestly I think it's best for the dev just to have tried to have people refunded and abandon the project altogether. As now he is moving to visual novels and making it a non(less of a) hentai game, which made MGI so popular. (it's was THE gateway game).
In some ways the game is abandoned, as the new view for it is.. well stupid. (this is one of those time where you can say the dev screw up). (fyi: even in AAA games we see thing. The idea of the players saying you gone messed up and things being changed is nothing new.. even for free AAA games)
-If you're not comfortable with making the style of game anymore cool and all good, but you can't just take the money you earned and decide "screw you", I'm doing this now. /it is highly unmoral ethic.
Edit: 1. Forgot to add this as its important: I'm not saying they're uncomfortable or there won't be any boobies. My point is rather this is what people were actually paying for. It's the cost of asking for money and wanting funded. If there wasn't money involve then personally it would be a different story. (above in the fyi part i said this happens even for free aaa titles... there is a huge difference in those titles compare to a project such as mgi) ------------------ The game in its hay day was gonna be an easy 10/10 game. Sad to see what become of it.
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Told you guys that this dickhead scammed you
Redamz should really just take this down. Incomplete dead game with no future. Just teasing people at this point.
rip
bum
Redamz please bring back the game I'm begging you 😭
Well, the game is dead, and I doubt the comments are being checked, but I finally got around to trying the "full" prologue (I played the first demo a while ago), and I gotta say, this was fun! I liked the characters, the stages were nice, storyline was getting interesting. I've never been big on mini-games, but they were alright enough for making use of the space. Faster dash would have been good. Hopefully the newer, smaller games are able to get made and released to follow up.
It sucks bro, I can even Play the game again without shedding tears I'm for real just hoping that red was kidding about giving up the game
for real :/ this game has such an unique charm to it
Yeah :(
RIP Monster Girl Island, the dream was nice while it lasted
why RIP?
(just gonna lay it all out)
1. MGI was a big project. It was well funded, sadly and if I'm getting my stories straight patreon was well patreon. They wanted a huge cut and Red wasn't going to give in. I respect him on that.
2. This issue is tech grew faster than red could work.
3. (an offical statement "The story started in MGI Prologue will be expanded upon on different games that I've been working on.
"MGI prologue was becoming too dated and development taking too long, so I decided to cut my losses and move the story to smaller, more manageable games.
The core story has been mostly unadulterated, but not all characters will get as much focus as it was originally intended, at least for now..."-Red ( Jan 2nd, 2024) There is more to this, but this is the core.
4.I'm not sure what he means by "cut his losses" As people would have 100% would have supported him.
5.The other issue is his ego got in the way, I'm pretty sure some talented people were lined up willing to help. But he wanted to work on the game himself. I get it his story, his baby. I can respect it but it got the game killed.
6. (3. continue)
"Love;Again are visual novels focused on dating and ecchi rather than straight up hentai.
MGI Saga is focused on world building and tries to be more of a game than the other entries in the series.
I understand not everyone will like these changes, but it is what it is."- red (again more to this but this still another part to 3.)
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I'm not really sure what truly happened. I feel he honestly just lost his drive. He might be making more but sadly I feel that he did damage to his reputation. MGI as i said before was more or less the gateway for monster girls/hentai. Yeah it's a hentai/lewd game blah blah blah, but I am 100% certain it would been a staple of hentai games.
Wow yeah, I couldn't have said it better. Honestly its just such a shame cause the game or rather the prologue was so unique like no other Hentai Game. I was really looking forward to the future of this game but was short lived sadly.
What little I played was amazing in the prologue and I was having fun with it. t sucks that it it getting scrapped cuase he's too proud to ask for help essentially... really sucks
Patreon is based on percentages. It never changes. Sorry but, that's not accurate
Yes, Patreon was charging him 200,000 a year.
That's because his page was generating 2 million a year at one point.
It's percentages, they scale the bigger the number is.
That's how just about all services work, they take a percentage, which means more profit to them based on success.
AH I see. Bit of miss info, Looked it back up. What is was that they(patreon) kept updating their policies, and eventually targeted Red because of the game.
saying that, the money issue(s) from patreon is known problem as well.
I doubt he was targeted, per say.
It seems unlikely. As I mentioned, at some point they were getting 20,000 a month in income from his page. They really wouldn't want to target someone under those circumstances. They did update their TOS and do so often, but I've been on Patreon for years and it's never been anything excessive that they require or ask of Patrons. The main reason they update their TOS is because some developers try to skirt the rules by bending them. Those rules need to be amended once people find out about it.
Naturally, it's up to the developer whether they want to adhere or decline. It seems this dev did, for whatever reason.
I don't think this game will ever be finished, but I do come and check on it from time to time. Just to see if I'm wrong. ^_^
For projects of this scale they should've just gone to platforms like kickstarter. The problem with Patreon as a longer-term fund-as-you-develop platform is that none of the parties gets any guarantee.
Patreon is meant for regular content delivery like podcasts, video clips or illustrations. If your game is not able to deliver substantial updates at least on a quarterly basis then Patreon is a really bad idea for raising funds.
Back then kickstarter didn't allow adult content games to be funded or placed on their platform. This is something they only recently began to do.
More importantly, 95% of kickstarters never get funded. Patreon is vastly better for funding what you enjoy doing.
Actually from what i read on multiple reddits and other sites. It wasn't that. I think that the Patreons or simply to say. People who supported him, went basically against him for releasing everything very very slowly (Despite him saying it will arrive soon, but they weren't wrong since that part with frog girl, forgot her name. was there after very long time)
And some ppl were checking files of the game and somehow found out that those characters used in game are not made by him, which i dunno about that. I could like 50% believe it and 50% not believe it. But it's closer to not believing it. I mean i think it make sense that those characters could be made by him, since i mean did you saw any 18+ animations with those models ? Not including the game itself.
But Reddamz himself said that, patreon was demanding control over his game so he left patreon. And said that the game will be sold after it will be finished. He said that in 2021. That was his last tweet on twitter. With 3D model showcase of a new girl. So who knows. Maybe he is working on it. Maybe he gave up. But i mean 2+ years and no sign of him, nor any info. Who knows.
There is information elsewhere that he gives updates and is active. The game MGI is done as is. *With more stories being released in smaller settings*
The main issues: was Patreon changing their tos and him not being able to have enough time.
(There was a lot of deserved back lash that he got and is getting. I usually take the side of the dev, especially because a small team or working alone. The issue I have hear is that he 100% needed help and refused. Which is his right, but it cost the game's 'life'. Even though he gives updates, it does feel he took the money and ran sometimes.)
The things I quoted was just said this year by him.
Thanks for that info. I could see a game of this following being overwhelming.
I can also understand why he refused help. I had a few people approach me , offering "help" for one of my projects. Before they even got hired properly, they started trying to take over.
He's probably had to deal with a lot. Stuff we may never know.
Yeah he is active on discord. He gives info to people. He actually made an halloween event for MGI. But he is working on like other game? that he then wants to combine with MGI? If i got it correctly. But to me MGI feels just undone. I mean there are many characters that need some "scenes" if you know what i mean. And we don't know what happened after the current "ending" of MGI. So for anybody. He has a discord where he gives info about upcoming things.
A shame indeed, but he needs to do what's best for himself. Still, is this the most updated version of the game we can get, or is there more content that was made available somewhere else?
I'm not 100% sure, they might have it on their discord.
Thanks! I've had a quick look, and it seems as though this is all there is.
plans for a .apk version
Game is abandoned so no
can i play it in vr?
in settings (where sets graphics), on next tab(input), costs to set up a VR helmet oculus. soo, you can(i guess)
Honestly I think it's best for the dev just to have tried to have people refunded and abandon the project altogether. As now he is moving to visual novels and making it a non(less of a) hentai game, which made MGI so popular. (it's was THE gateway game).
In some ways the game is abandoned, as the new view for it is.. well stupid. (this is one of those time where you can say the dev screw up). (fyi: even in AAA games we see thing. The idea of the players saying you gone messed up and things being changed is nothing new.. even for free AAA games)
-If you're not comfortable with making the style of game anymore cool and all good, but you can't just take the money you earned and decide "screw you", I'm doing this now. /it is highly unmoral ethic.
Edit: 1. Forgot to add this as its important: I'm not saying they're uncomfortable or there won't be any boobies. My point is rather this is what people were actually paying for. It's the cost of asking for money and wanting funded. If there wasn't money involve then personally it would be a different story. (above in the fyi part i said this happens even for free aaa titles... there is a huge difference in those titles compare to a project such as mgi)
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The game in its hay day was gonna be an easy 10/10 game. Sad to see what become of it.