This game is amazing I loved it I'm not really a simple type of guy but this got me the arts beautiful and the endings are so good and emotional (I don't really wanna go for the no love ending cause of how sad I'm gonna get) but this was amazing a good way to spend almost 5 hours :3
Thank you so much for playing and for taking the time to comment! I'm glad you gave it a chance! And I'm happy that you enjoyed it and that the emotions reached you! ^^
I'm reading the comments and actually relating to them. I was never like, a fan of shipping or fangirls or anything but damn. this game is long, creative, beautiful, has a beautiful story, and I actually almost cry at the end. I dont even know what to say, it has become one of my favorite games of all time.
so thank you for making this, you are wonderful!
edit: had to verify my email :P
also, what is the fourth photo of the album? im pretty sure I already played through the whole game
Thank YOU so much for playing! :D I'm always very happy to hear when those who aren't really fans of shipping/fangirls enjoyed the game. It really means a lot that you decided to try it! At the end of the day, I hoped to tell a story that could reach all fans of Undertale, should they choose to play it.
!! SPOILERS, just in case!
The fourth photo is actually from the Sans fight during the No Love (True LOVE) route. It's basically from the bad ending if you keep the knife and decide to use it... =)
huh, I'm pretty sure I already made this ending, but I will (unfortunately, it's sad and difficult :(( ) make it again to make sure, thanks !! very grateful from your reply :))
i made an account just to express how much i loved this,you may have heard this a lot already but this game made me so happy,i'll make sure to play all the other ones,thank you for making so much effort into making these,i hope we'll get to see more great things from you!
Thank you for playing and for taking the time to make an account to leave a comment! It really means so much that you enjoyed my little love letter to this series and this character.
the game is fun and awesome. im really sad it ended but i enjoyed it. thank you for putting so much effort in this game. hope you make a lot of games like this one. have a nice day and again thank you, you really made me happy.
Hellooo just to say I loved this game, I did the True love ending but I wanted to do it all again, repeat the good ending, but I can't bring myself to reset after that beautiful fairytale ending. I tried to get a clean state but I wasn't able to do it :(. Could you please help me? I followed your instructions but it didn't work.
Thank you so much for playing! I'm glad you thought of it as a fairytale ending! That's exactly the kind of feeling I was going for here, in an Undertale sort of way. :)
11/10 i really love this VN, it manage to make me laugh,sad,happy, and even a bit of crying... You did a VERY splendid job on making this game. Looking forward for your new games!!!
Hii, I was wondering if you know how to delete all previous data and begin from a new slate but on a Mac? I've tried just deleting them from my files and the bin, but it still keeps my old data. Btw I've played both of your games and have really adored them 🥺
Ok so I played this game a long, long time ago, made genocide route and all, but I REALLY want to replay it from scratch, is there any way to detele all my saves from previous routes? ;-;
God, I can really feel the sheer amount of love (definitely not LOVE) and time and effort you poured into creating this game. All the details, all the callbacks, the quality of the writing, the really genuine and heartfelt exploration of what it might look like for canon Sans to fall in love. I'm not a big Sans shipper, but do love the character in general. I went in expecting a few good laughs about dating funny sad skeleton man, came out the other end of the True Love route having cried multiple times. I've had the window open on the The End screen for about an hour just listening to the water noises, thinking about Sans and his soulmate laying down to rest together beneath the Underground's 'stars'.
I'm curious about the Secret Route, but I have no idea where I'd remotely begin trying to get there, so I think I may leave it here. I'm not sure I have the heart to put poor Sans through anything else, haha.
This is without a doubt the best fan game I've ever played. Thank you for giving us all the privilege of being able to enjoy this.
I'm happy the emotions reached you! I'll always consider this VN my love letter to Sans and to Undertale. And it means so much that the emotions I poured into this have been felt, even just a little. (Regarding the "The End" screen, I'm glad to hear that you did that. I wanted the player to feel compelled to linger in the world just a little longer before having to close it.) The Secret Route does require a RESET. But, of course, I will leave that up to you. :) The fact that you don't want to put Sans through anything means the writing did its job. Thank you so much for playing! And thank you for taking the time to leave a comment!
Playing through this game, I felt teleported back to my 2016 Undertale phase. This game reignited my love for Sans and made my urge to read Sans x Reader stories again extremely strong. I've played through both the True Love and the True LOVE routes and LOVED the writing. It felt nostalgic, in an odd way, while still being unique when compared to Sans x Reader fanfics. I fully plan to get the Secret Ending after I properly reset everything and can't wait to see it. I almost wish this game had more content, as there aren't many Undertale Dating Sims in general, but at the same time, it's the perfect length just the way it is. Thank you so much for such an amazing game!
I'm glad that it reignited that for you and that you liked the writing! I really tried to keep the Undertale feeling, while still putting my own writing flair into it. I wanted the visual novel to have just a hint of a fairytale feeling. I hope you enjoy the Secret Ending, as well! Thank you for playing and for taking the time to leave a comment!
Sooo it was a really awesome game! I couldn't get to download it at my pc because of some reasons...but I still manage to play it at my cousin pc :)..It was so touching..Anyway back to my questions..
What I want to ask is..Did something going to happend\change if we changed our name when we try to play 'ACT 2'?
Like for example we put our name [Example Lily] in the first run and then we decided to play 'ACT 2' and the game was actually do give us a option to change our name [Example Blood]..And well maybe you get what I meant...
(In case you dont get it..
we put our name first..and we complete the 'true love' route and we all know sans could remember every reset and changes [same as flowey]..
So when we play 'ACT 2' and changed our name and then any of the character ask about our name we said that our name is our second name..
Doesn't that make sans or flowey think that 'us' wasn'actually 'us'?)
I'm glad you enjoyed and found it touching! Thank you so much for playing! I'm glad you managed to play it, despite the trouble! :)
!! SPOILERS !!
So the only person that knows that you changed your name is actually Flowey. He will comment on it and ask why you changed your name. He'll even make a callback to whatever the first name you picked was. But he still knows (or believes) that it's the same person playing.
And the same goes with Sans. Even if you change your name, he still knows that it's you. His SOUL is connected to yours as your SOULmate. And that connection is unique. So having a different name won't make a difference for him.
Does that mean Sans know that we changed our name? And will he mentions it too in one of his dialouge?
Also is there an options in well when the game ask us about our trait of soul..is there a secret options where you could say that you 'SOULless'? Or that the only opions they gived?
(And you maybe be wondering...why would I ask such a question? well my imaginations is like turn on right now..and with this question I was like 'Hey you know what would be funny? that Sans managed to make you his SOULmate even thoughtyou were SOULless!)
No need to be sorry! I'm happy you're interested in the storyline! :D I'll try to answer all your questions here:
As long as you credit me and link back to this game, then you can use the storyline for your AU.
Also, no. Sans does not know that the player changed their name. Only Flowey knows and will mention it.
There is not a SOUL-less option. Only the six traits are the possible options.
You don't need to buy WinZip to unzip the game. Normally on Windows, you're able to unzip it by right-clicking on the zipped folder and selecting "Extract All..."
Make sure "Show extracted files when complete" is checked, then click "Extract."
The characterization of all the characters is spot on and I found myself blushing and connecting to the undertale cast before me.
I liked Undertake when it first came out, but I was never a massive fan of it. Yet this piece of fan media has touched me and ignited a love for it I don't think I had before.
You made an adult person blush over a cartoon skeleton like I was 14 again reading my first lemon fanfiction. That takes skill.
The writing was wholesome and made me feel like I was coming home.. I love all of them and they are my friends and family.
SPOILER; READ NO FURTHER
I played through the genocide run and it broke me. I tried to play through to get the good ending again and found myself emotionally devastated when Chara made me kill Sans.
I suspected something bad would happen because of my decision to give my soul to Chara to reset the world, but I didn't know that the price would never being able to be with my love again; doomed to kill him again and again.
It made me wish dearly I could undo everything I had done. To make everything right again and never again stray from my SOULmate.
I almost cried when I realized even after deleting and re-downloading the entire game - my old save was still in play.
Thankfully, I found instructions here to get a clean slate- if I couldn't have found that, I might have been in a foul state of mind all day.
I plan to play through at least one more time to Sans the ending he deserves.
PS I also like how Sans seems to like the player regardless of what their true soul is.
Thank you, thank you so much for playing and for your words! It means so much to know the story had that effect! If I'm being honest, I really just poured my emotions over the page in hopes that even a drop of it would be felt.
!!! SPOILERS
I think the genocide/True LOVE route was one of the most difficult things about making this. I wanted to make sure that it was satisfying and heartbreaking the first time around to those that were curious enough. But at the same time, I needed to make it so that each repetition of a scene made it lose its impact. And the consequences it would have in a reattempt at the good ending/True Love... that was one of the first things I had planned from the very first brainstorm session for the VN. And I'm glad that the route and its consequences had that effect on you. But I'm also glad you were able to get a clean slate. :)
Also, I wanted to make sure that all the SOUL colors had their bits of flavor (color changes, the description of the SOUL). But I didn't want that to impact how Sans saw the player. I wanted Sans to feel connected to the player no matter what their SOUL was. Kind of like "I love you for you" but without needing to say those exact words.
Thank you again for taking the time to comment and for playing. I'm glad the VN warmed your heart with love.
I have played this game when it came out, and i just finished the papyrus game and i couldnt stop blushing! your writing and ideas are wonderful ! i really hope you dont stop making these cause they are AMAZING
Thank you so much for playing both Dating Start! and Hold the Awkward! I'm glad you enjoyed both VNs! And I certainly plan to make more VNs in the future (both Undertale and originals)!
AAAA Awesome! i really cant wait, i really suggest diving into the AUs but other than that ANYTHING you make is wonderful and unique and really feels like a true experience , thank you for everything!
This game is absolutely remarkable. I really can't say enough good things about your writing: the humor, the character voices, how sweet and gentle the romance is, how absolutely heartbreakingly palpable the moments of pining and withdrawal are. I know another commenter mentioned it, but yes, that moment where you're seeing your own soul, and Sans sees it too, the sort of breathelssness and wonder... you nailed it. This is a beautiful game. Thank you so much for making it and sharing it.
The painful part is knowing that the True LOVE route exists and wanting to know what you wrote for it because you're a great writer and I want to see what you imagined, while absolutely not having the heart to actually play through it, hahahaha. Just like in Undertale, you've made me too invested in the narrative of the world to be willing to satisfy my curiosity by hurting people, even if they're fictional. :')
Thank you so much for playing and for commenting! I'm glad you enjoyed the writing! I honestly just poured my emotions onto the page and hoped that others would feel even a drop of what I felt. And I'm glad that you have that hesitation to play through True LOVE! It means that the VN did its job. :)
Writing the romance and the moments... I needed it to be a dance. There needed to be moments of pause and reflection... and moments of whirlwind emotions that swept players into the world. And I'm glad you thought I captured the silent wonder of the SOUL scene. It was one of my favorite scenes to write. I wanted both the player and Sans to share the same sense of wonder of seeing the player's SOUL vulnerable for the first time.
Thank you again for playing and for taking the time to comment! I appreciate the words more than you know.
"I needed it to be a dance. There needed to be moments of pause and reflection... and moments of whirlwind emotions that swept players into the world."
You absolutely accomplished this. As a writer myself, I can see the care that went into creating that vision, and as a player, I felt it.
Also -- I ended up admiring your writing so much that I wanted to know your thoughts and choices for the True LOVE route just THAT badly, so... jakl;sdff;kasd I did end up deciding to play it. I'm glad I did, because even though it was gut-wrenching, I got to see what you, as a creator, envisioned, and I think you did a great job. Hopefully this doesn't sound too creepy, but I wanted to know your thoughts and feelings about both the story that you've created, and about Sans's story and the central themes of UT more broadly. In other words, I was wondering, "What is this creator's lens on the more painful aspects of UT itself? How will the personal impact that UT had on her be 'translated' and constructed into this story and game? What choices as a writer and game developer will she make to reach the players?" I was so moved by the parts of the game I had played that, well... I'm going to sound like a broken record, but I really wanted to know!
So I had to separate myself out from being "in" the game as the character, which is a shady thing to do, if we follow the game's internal logic. I tend to really buy into a world as it's presented if I find it compelling, so the stress that Undertale's, I guess we could call them "metaphysics," puts on my moral core is what keeps me from ever being able to play anything but pure pacifist in UT proper (although I've read extensively about the parts of the game I didn't explore and one could call that cheating;;;; Flowey certainly would). But... I wanted to know what you had created strongly enough to erect that mental division, and it allowed me to appreciate something you put a lot of time into thinking about and creating. What you did with the True LOVE route is very evocative and meaningful, intimate to your specific game but also relaying a clear love and respect for Undertale's vision itself, at least as far as I understand it without being in Toby Fox's head. Also? I think the way you did the Sans battle was very clever and well-executed. Just wanted to mention that specifically because it stands out so much in terms of mechanics.
Anyway, thank you so much for creating and sharing this. It really is a wonderful work.
Thank you for playing! I'm glad that you're satisfied with the True Love ending! I wanted True Love to be able to stand on its own, without a need for True LOVE. However, I also wanted to tempt players with the fact it DOES exist.
I'm glad you think it was well developed! I tried my best to capture that Undertale feeling. But, of course, I had to put my own spin on it as well!
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:3 I love it, its a great game with awesome writing! Made me cry at one point but I'm pretty sure i got the True Love ending. Now i cant bring myself to play anymore to see the Secret Route Ending, Since I'm somewhat suspicious & weird, I don't want to take away the monsters & Pc insert's happy ending by resetting.
I don't personally want to ever see the True LOVE (No Love) ending and so I was pretty shocked when the Pc insert woke up with a knife during my second play-through. At my core I'm a soul of kindness though i do have other traits that fit me as well.
I only did three play-through runs and one of those was a caused by a load. After loading up and playing the first time which resulted in no ending [I think anyways] I reset, second play-through resulted in a desktop crash (a scripted one) which I had to used a load, and final play-through is where i got the True Love ending.
This more of personal thing for myself so take it with a grain of salt as a con but I wish the Pc insert could ask for permission before kissing Sans.
Thank you so much for playing! I'm glad to hear that you loved the VN! And I'm glad that the emotions reached you! It does sound like you completed True Love, yes. ^^ I don't blame you for not wanting to see True LOVE. Thankfully, that means that you and Sans can stay in True Love and live happily ever after. :) And I totally understand where you're coming from regarding the kisses, but I'm glad you enjoyed the VN all the same!
hey!! i just had to drop by and say that i finished this game just a few minutes ago and honestly i'm??? SO impressed by it as a whole?
the writing is fantastic, almost comparable to the original game and the emotions i felt while playing this reminded me of the original game so much as well. i feel like, even without the main story/dating mechanic, you were able to portray Undertale at its core so well? if that makes sense?? probably not ahah--
but in the dating mechanic/storyline itself! the emotions were there, and palpable and it was beautiful somehow, just. how you portrayed everything!! i love how Sans is characterized and the relationship we build with him through the resets feels so personal and genuine. i'm not sure i could go back and do it all again because of that very reason, as much as i might want to :'D i think i just, love him too much and. like obviously it's just a game, but the way you write him makes him feel real somehow, just like the original game did. it'd break my heart to rip it away and make him go through all that again, even if it's fictional, honestly-- :'D that's how you know you made something truly worth experiencing and visceral, and i commend you so much for it!
i can tell you put SO much love and care into this project and, i love it so much. not only did it remind me of the original game but it somehow felt like i was playing the original game itself. a lot of the feelings i have for Undertale came back through this, and took me back in a way as to why i love it so much. this made my heart so happy to play and honestly i wish i could relive it again and again, it was amazing. i'm a little sad it's over but i'm very happy i got to experience it for what it is!
thank you so, so much for this gem of an UT fangame <333
Thank you so much for playing it! And I'm so glad the feelings were palpable! This truly is my love letter to this world and to these characters, especially Sans. And to know that the emotions of that letter reached so many people, that's honestly more than I could ever ask for.
I'm glad you liked my characterization of Sans! I honestly wanted the relationship to feel personal to the point where the hidden emotions burst into life! And knowing that you have that hesitation to reset.... it means I did my job as a writer and a VN dev. We're always sad it's over, but we can always bring these characters with us. :)
Thank you so much for taking the time to leave your thoughts. Stay determined.
I don't remember writing a comment about this game when i played it, but i don't mind write again about how i absolutely adore it, love it, fond of it, it gave me many many emotions and i SO cried because of it, man, i wish there was more games like "DATING START!", because i frikin LOVE that kind of games, even laying aside the romance stuff (which btw was soooooo idk how to even say this aside from "i loved it so much") the writing was just wooooooooo man it gave me the feels
vvvvv Maybe a minor spoiler?????? vvvvvvv
Also, how can i get a "better conversation", as Sans implied? or is it really just a little trolling on perfectionist players? :D
I think I remember you commenting before!! But I definitely appreciate you commenting again! It really does mean a lot that you enjoyed the VN so much!! ^^
!! Spoilers, just in case :)
Ah it seems you caught me red-handed LOL That is, indeed, a little trolling on the perfectionist/completionist players! All in good fun, of course! :D
So I did the no love route. I see sans through the hall, and then we battle, right? So, when he showed me his special attack, I died in an instant. That's meant to happen? And when I die, I keep spawning in the place, the hall, this looks like an endless loop, I don't know if this actually how it goes. But anyway, this game is very amazing, I loved it a lot.
I'm glad you enjoyed the game! When you die in an instant.... are you clicking "MERCY"? Clicking that would kill you in an instant and send you back to the beginning. When it's his special attack and he's just standing there, you have to find the "FIGHT" option. It's somewhere there on the screen.
!! Spoiler for the fight
The hidden "FIGHT" button is under the textbox. You have to click the textbox and drag it. :) That will secure your victory and complete the No Love route.
When I met with Chara I clicked on erase, I try to go back and click the other option but when I open the game it's all black since yk, I erased everything. How do I go back?
This is an absolute gem of a fangame. Even setting aside the main conceit (dating Sans) it's a wonderful love letter to Undertale in and of itself! It manages to pack so much into its runtime, and I find myself replaying it every so often because it has the same cozy feeling I loved from Undertale. Even more than keeping the mechanics Undertale initially employed, it's important to nail the heart and the feeling behind the game, and you really got everyone here 100%!
!!! MINOR SPOILERS HERE, BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY !!!
Seeing and interacting with the other characters feels like coming home, a happy little glimpse into their lives past Undertale's end. I especially adore the roleplaying scene with Alphys and Undyne; it's hilarious while also feeling warm and affectionate, with all the love going around everyone, between the MC's pining and Undyne and Alphys's own relationship! Every character was incredibly true to themselves, up to all their quirks and mannerisms, and it makes every part of this game such a delight to read.
I can't skip over the writing of the main draw either. The way the relationship with Sans is built over multiple RESETs is so charming and feels so true, with the hints of his character we got in the original game; of course he wouldn't be that easy of a nut to crack, even with his friendly attitude. More than that, the moments between him and the MC are written with such genuine emotion and care that it never fails to get me, no matter how many times I replay the game. Catch me in the club crying over the quiet wonder perfectly captured in the scene where he sees MC's soul even after I've read it for the 100th time in a row!!
From the bottom of my heart, thank you for bringing this project to life and releasing it into the world.
I'm so glad that the emotions reached you, both the Sans and non-Sans scenes! I just wanted to pour as much of my emotions and love onto the page/screen in hopes that others would be able to feel it. And it makes me so happy to know it was felt!
!!!! SPOILERS JUST IN CASE
I'm so glad you were able to feel the silent wonder in the SOUL reveal scene! I wanted to have it feel like a moment that was so precious, but so fragile even a whisper could shatter it. That was one of my favorite scenes to write :) Then again, I guess I had many scenes that were my favorite to write LOL
Thank you so much for playing and for taking the time to comment. <3
Hello Cho I return because I took another replay through the game recently and I think you'd enjoy my tale of the unintentional bonus pinch of pain I experienced when I decided to finally tackle the No Love route. Posting it down here instead of in a new comment to hide it better, but just in case!
!!! SPOILERS !!!
For No Love route I changed the name (because on some level I am still a weenie), and the thing is. When I did this. I managed to skip over Flowey's whole barb about it in the beginning. So I went through the ENTIRE ROUTE having no idea that it hadn't truly mattered, which made Sans saying the first name I input instead of the name I put in for that specific playthrough at the end hit WAY HARDER sdhgfjsdg
It truly was the most karmic of punishments and I'm laughing thinking about it even now!!
Hi there!! It's always nice to see you here! I'm always excited to hear about everyone's playthroughs!
!!! SPOILERS (just in case) !!!
Ohohohoho no no you're not a weenie! But yes, I kinda banked on majority of people playing through True Love before No Love. So I wanted to have Sans only say your name from the True Love playthrough. As a little... reminder so-to-speak =) Or course, if someone went straight to No Love, then it'd just be whatever name was picked then.
This was so good one of the best games I've ever played. I laughed lots of times and even teared up. As a young teen who has played only one visual novel in her life this was a masterpiece I'm so happy I played and laughed and cried and the music was really good too, the game gave me so many feelings I would have around a real crush it was quite fun lol. The visuals were really good too and the writing, the puns were *humerus*,another thing, the game made me love Toriel even more she's so understanding in this game and (lets face it) Flowey was a PAIN but that didn't stop me. I have so many snapshots of this game now (thank you). Best Undertale fan game ever ∞/10
Thank you so much for playing! I'm really happy that you enjoyed the VN! I'm glad the emotions reached you! And I'm flattered that you rated it infinity out of ten!! Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment.
I just finished playing this game and I am honestly in such awe! This game left me so emotional I swear lolol. I appreciate the efforts you put in it as well, and genuinely like to thank you for the amount of fun I had playing it! (Everything about this game has been magnificently executed!) <3
Hello~ I can believe I only discovered this game now! I really enjoyed your game and I really appreciate all the efforts you put in it ^^ May contains spoilers:
I was so confused that the resets were also a thing and it was needed to proceed Sans' route haha (or I think so? I just kept resetting until I was able to go with Sans finally), but I really liked it! It was so cute o//o so I thank you with my whole heart to make that game (also urged pressured my friends to play it haha) Another funny thing that happened is, after I was supposed to save Sans by doing another reset, some options were giving to me so I wanted to try them (like, asking Paps a date, but I ended up dating him for real and again, I was really confused and like "ayo give me Sans, my poor skeleton is waiting for me DD:") Sorry for writing a really long review (if I can call this a review? more like fangirling over a fangame but anyway) Um I also saw in the FAQ that you were not currently planning to translate the game, but I happen to be a student from a French Master degree specialised in technical translation and writing. We work on volunteer translation projets (normally charity projets) to gain experience. So I was wondering if you would accept that a small Undertale fans team could translate your game in French, I would be so happy to allow french UT fans to enjoy your game as well~ And as I said, we are fully aware that it would be a volunteer job, so no problem ^^ If you want further information, please contact me I would love to help you ^^!
Hi! Thank you so much for playing and for commenting! I'm happy you enjoyed it! And don't be sorry! I always love reading long reviews (or fangirling). ^^
And regarding the translation, thank you so much for offering! That means a lot! I'm going to see if I can clean up my code for translations. If it works out, I'll definitely reach out! Please email me at <redacted> so I can have your email! :)
i have no idea why i enjoyed the game so much that i played this w my friends to see them suffer while voicing the characters, their throats were always scarred after voicing papyrus lmfao weak
I'm glad you enjoyed it that much! Voice acting with friends is always a lot of fun. :) Sorry their voices hurt afterwards, though. Hope you all had fun, regardless!
EYO SPOLIERS AHEAD SO LIKE DON'T READ THIS IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED YET
Crying, shitting, crying even more THE FIRST ROUTE I EVER GOT WAS THE TRUE LOVE ENDING PRETTY SURE WHICH MADE ME CRY A LOT NGL WITH YOU
I really love the mechanics of this game it really did suprize me a lot on how the resets would work
BUT OH BOY WHEN I DECIDED TO DO THE SECRET ENDING WITH GOING ON A DATE WITH PAPYRUS RIGHT AFTER I JUST FINISHED THE SO CALLED TRUE LOVE ENDING IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD I JUST KNEW "Sans will still remember the last timeline won't he?" LIKE ALL I WAS THINKING WAS HOW WOULD HE REACT TO LIKE GOING ON A DATE WITH PAPAYRUS AND ALL AND WHEN I WENT TO SHAKE HIS HAND I LITERALLY JUST KNEW AS THE MUSIC JUST CHANGED
"You feel your SOUL flicker, for the briefest of moments"
"It's warm and familiar, but it grows distant as he pulls his away"
I KEEP ON REPEATING THE SAME THING BUT LITERAL TEARS, THE MOMENT I REALIZED, just c r i e s
Literally felt like I just betrayed the poor bone man :')
WHETHER IM ASSUMING WRONG BUT I'M SURE HE JUST KNEW HE REMEMEBERED THE OLD TIMELINE WHERE US THE PLAYER AND HIM WERE TOGETHER IT LITERALLY MADE ME SO SAD PLEASE THE WAY I SLOWLY PLACED MY FACE ONTO MY HANDS IM SOBBING
ITS THE LOOK HE GAVE I SWEAR
MaN, game be making me sob at like 1am in the morning lMAO, was literally physically slamming my hands on my table multiple times playing through this it would be amusing to watch
I don't have the heart to do the genocide run but all in all this is s great game guys, really just, w o w I'm genuinely speechless
EDIT: FLOWEY U SICK BASTARD U DIDN'T HAVE TO REMIND ME MY GOD
I think it's the fact that flowey can and will comment about your actions throughout the playthroughs, resets, runs, that give me the utter chills, it's because floewey k n o w s
Thank you so much for playing!! I'm glad that you enjoyed it!
!!! SPOILERS !!!
I'm glad the emotions reached you on that part! It means the scene did its job. Your assumption is correct. :) That flickering of the player's SOUL, that's the SOULmate flicker. And we're not the only one that feels it. Sans feels it, too. And he realizes that, despite solidifying that bond in a previous timeline.... you decided not to reunite with him as a SOULmate. Of course, he's happy for his brother and he's happy for the player.
But it hurts him.
I would've loved to see that reaction, honestly LOL It always makes me so happy to know that people get so into the story that they have to flail or slam their hands on the table.
And, of course, Flowey wouldn't be Flowey if there wasn't a comment or two (or twenty) about your playthroughs. ;)
Thank you again for playing and taking the time to comment!!
I was unsure on how I would feel about this game when I first started it, but my uncertainty was quickly put to rest once I fully embraced the experience. Not only was it fun to interact with Sans, but I highly enjoyed interacting with the other characters as well. Once the deeper parts of the story began to unfold I was completely and utterly hooked on it, and I actually found myself being touched by some of the scenes. I even started to cry once I made my promise, 'cause I know I won't be able to break it. Even going back for a quick check once I finished the game with the "True Love" ending had me in tears as Sans spoke to me; reassuring me. I couldn't possibly take away that good ending from him, no matter how curious I am about the rest of the game. I'll let him be happy.
Thank you for making this wonderful game. You've definitely made me very happy for its existence, and your attention to detail certainly made it a wonderful experience. Hopefully my gratitude is successfully sent from me, to you. Much love!
Thank you so much for playing and for taking the time to comment! I'm glad that you enjoyed the experience and that the emotions reached you! I hoped to send everyone through an emotional journey with this VN.
Just knowing that at least one person felt even a tiny sample of the emotions I put into this, that's honestly more than I could ever ask for. :)
This is such a delightful gem of a game! You really caught the spirit of Undertale. I loved all the little details included and the attention paid to the supporting characters. One of my very favorite moments was Toriel's reassurance after the player confesses their nightmare - so touching! Like Undertale, the thing that takes the most determination with this game is putting it down after a happy ending. <3
Thank you so much for playing!! I'm glad you could feel the Undertale spirit! That's something I really strived for! And the Act Two Toriel scenes were one of my favorite moments, too. :) I wanted to make sure the supporting cast also got their moments!
I wasn't able to go through the Genocide route in Undertale -I was feeling sooo guilty when I tried, I swear It's so difficult for me to be mean in games XD -but somehow I did it for your game, I was too damn curious. I did a True love -> Secret ending -> True LOVE -> True love ( =) ) run. And it was so good.
I mean, yeah I may have possibly been on the verge of crying a little in the end of the second True love Run, who knows, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PROOF OKAY. It hit hard, guiltiness was all over my kokoro and it's exactly why you have done a wonderful job !
Thank you for making this game, I'm sure everybody who played it can tell how much passion you put into it <3
PS : I was wondering how much time it took you to make it ? Also I'm sorry if I made any mistakes with my english ~
Thank you for playing and for commenting! And don't be sorry! Your English is perfect! Also, I won't tell anyone if you almost cried with True love =) It makes me happy to know you felt the emotions I had while making it.
And I'm so happy you could sense the passion I poured into it. It took me 2 years to make this visual novel! :)
I downloaded it. I played it. I got the True Love route. I love it. I love you for making it. Oh my god. I'm crying about it and I love it. I love you. Thank you. Thank you so much. I made an account just for this. I love it. Thank you.
I'm so glad that you enjoyed it and that the emotions reached you! And it means a lot that you made an account just to comment! Thank you so much for playing! Stay determined 🤍
I think this contains minor SPOILERS? So just a heads-up???
So I finished playing through the True LOVE route and then replayed the good sh*t™ route again last night to feel better after and like...
You're so thurough?? And I applaud you!!
But oh my god--- My heart-----
I've never seen a fan game that goes to this extent and I didn't expect it at all when getting into it so I was very scared to find out just how much impact my decisions made.......... (I never played genocide in Undertale cus I have big problems with consequences like these in games so I only watch playthroughs cus I'm way too curious for my own good--- OTL
I would've liked a bigger warning of just how impactful the choices are but I also have myself to blame for not keeping as open a mind when playing these types of games as I will in the future)
g o d . . .
I don't regret playing through every single route at all but I'm gonna need to get to my next therapy session FAST now kjsfhskjdfhksjdg
Thank you for all the hard work you put into it, I bet it's given a lot of people a really enjoyable experience (like it has me) and it's so thurough it feels like a stand-alone game!! which is INSANE with it being FREE!!!
It's clear how much you care about the project and gave it your all and I'm really happy to have gotten to experience something like this!!!
Thank you so much!! I'm sorry that a certain part caught you off guard. But I'm very happy that you enjoyed the experience all the same! And I'm glad that the emotions reached you! I just wanted to share this story and my love for the characters. And I'm always so happy to see others have enjoyed it so much!
Thank you again for playing and for taking the time to share your thoughts! Take care and stay determined!
🚫Spoilers for like this whole thing, you've been warned🚫
AAAAHHH This game was really amazing, I loved playing it and the resetting to progress feature is really cool. Tbh I was surprised in the first part that I couldn't get sans but on the second one GOD, it hit me like a truck when sans finally became my soulmate...the scene was so cute and I was literally so happy.....then I remembered the knife and me being the curious person/completionist I am wanted to try out everything....I'm sure you see where I'm going with this. After fighting sans and winning, I faced Chara, mind you I knew what was gonna happen BUT AFTER I TRIED TO GET A TRUE LOVE ENDING AGAIN....I really yelled NO when I saw the red text appear and now....I'm really sad I did genocide and I tried to follow the steps to fully reset and start off blank but It doesn't seem to be working for me, did something change or is it no longer possible to get rid of Chara?
Thank you sooooo much for playing and for your kind words! I'm really happy that you enjoyed it! Also, regarding that certain part at the end, I'm glad it caught you off guard >:)
In regards to resetting, it is still possible to clean slate the game. I only have the instructions for Windows, however. Did you make sure to delete both "DatingStartVN-1.0.2-pc" and "DatingStartVN-102" folders? After that you'll need a new copy of the VN.
okay. okay. let me try to collect my thoughts. okay. okay. take a deep breathe, floralska. get it together.
before i get into my spoiler review: to anybody whose reading this right now stop what you're doing and go download the game. treat it like you did with undertale: absolutely do not read anything about it, don't go on tumblr, twitter, youtube, and especially don't scroll further down this comment section since you will be spoiled. just download it right now and PLAY. THIS. GAME.
EVEN IF YOU AREN'T A FANGIRL/FANBOY OF SANS OR EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ROMANTIC INTEREST IN HIM AT ALL PLAY. THE GAME. ANYWAY. TRUST ME. YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT.
PLAY THIS GAME. IT IS AMAZING, HEARTWARMING, WILL MAKE YOU LAUGH AND CRY, WILL MAKE YOU FEEL NOSTALGIC, WILL GIVE YOU ALL THE BEST FEELS, AND ITS JUST SO PERFECT. 10/10. PLEASE PLAY IT!!!
okay now that's out of the way... onto the spoiler-specific review... (that is also long as hell btw, i do apologize in advance)
!!SPOILERS AHEAD!! PLEASE PLAY THE GAME BEFORE LOOKING AT THIS!!!
okay. holy fucking shit. this game. what the fuck.
this morning, i was just scrolling through the sans undertale tag on twitter and then i find this GORGEOUS artwork of sans for this sans dating game.
now, i think i've seen a pretty fair amount of sans dating games before but i've never actually tried them. from my understanding, they've all been really good quality, as most ut fangames are but like i said never tried them before.
but this artwork it's just so gorgeous and there's a link to the game underneath it and the game is free. so i'm like "yeah why not, got nothing else better to do, let me procrastinate doing school work and see what this game is all about."
holy. fucking hell.
i mean like. the quality of it. right off the bat we get the ut intro and im already like awwwwww look at the artwork. it's so cute! and frisk and asgore 🥺🥺🥺🥺 the callbacks r great. i really like how reminiscent of undertale it is? i mean like- yeah DUH it's going to be reminiscent of undertale bc its literally a fangame for it but sometimes certain fangames just don't really get the... vibe of undertale you know? but this one does and we're not even in the game yet
then we get to name the human! and by that point, i was really happy bc yes holy shit a sans dating game where we are NOT frisk!!! so nice for a change
we go to the ruins, we see our bff flowey. the way that we got to interact with the game was so cool as well! like the choices were presented with dialogue but it was so cool seeing the animations of our actions play out on the screen, like watching our soul dodge the pellets.
i like how we're introduced to sans right away. i was so hype when i saw him (and tbh was super hype throughout the rest of the game anyway). right away i could tell the writing in this game was going to be great bc of the way you wrote sans!!!
and let me tell you- that is not an easy feat. i've seen a lot of ut fan content where sans just... doesn't seem right u know? like it is very, very hard to write his character and get his dialogue right. especially when you're putting HIM into a romantic-centric game??? i'll put more on sans later, but again. right from his introduction, i could already tell you're one of those writers who understand him and will do his justice.
so we go to tori's house and her reading the story to us was very sweet 🥺 her eyes blinked too and i thought that was super cool. u guys put so much thought into all of this- with the sprites and animations and everything it's just.. so awesome.
and then papyrus showed up!! and he was adorable. my dumbass got stuck on the puzzle bc i wasnt paying that much attention but i figured it out eventually 😭 then we got to the crosswords and sans again!! he takes us to grillby and all the interactions he has with the people at the bar... i was like yes thats my man look how popular he is 😎😎
the interactions we have with him- they r little and subtle enough that it helps it all feel so natural. it feels like falling in love with someone who, even though you've never met before, you knew right away that you would love them with all your heart. the little moments r just so tender and sweet.
i think eventually we do meet undyne and alphys, then sans takes us to see his telescope, and then we go to the mtt restaurant to go do his stand up.
bruh. this man. when he was talking about how good he was in bed and LOOKED AT US i literally screamed. i had to walk around my room. THIS MAN.
then we get to the table scene and I WAS LITERALLY SO HYPE so i just straight up told him that i loved him
WHEN HE BLUSHED LET ME TELL U I FCKING DIED SJSJSJJS
but then the game ends and floweys there so im like ah shit. here we go again.
2ND ROUTE
so i played through the 2nd route? (im not sure what its called)
it was obviously different from the first bc uhhh WE GOT A KNIFE. AND NOW THERES A OPTION TO FIGHT??
so this was the part where i figured there'd be a geno route and holy hell that is so fucking cool???? WHAT UNDERTALE SANS DATING VISUAL NOVEL INCORPORATES ALL THE ELEMENTS AND THEMES OF UNDERTALE IN IT???? LIKE WHAT THE FUCK THAT IS SO BADASS!!!
the dream was interesting too. obviously i know that it represents us doing genocide, but was there any other meaning to it? in the dream it was like at first we were scared, then there was a brief moment of clarity where we felt cool, then we felt scared again and there was the smell of blood, floweys laugh, and then we woke up. i wonder why it was in that specific order. hmm...
but right now im like okay im not here to kill anybody, i'm just trying to see whats new and try and get more closer to the characters cause in the last route i didn't really get the chance. the characters all notice that we're bored and it looks like we've done this before which, again, so fucking badass.
the bridge scene was amazing- i loved how sans caught us and how we just layed in the snow and oh my goodddd when i saw that close up i fucking died and went to heaven. omg.
the soul scenes too were amazing. i like how we could pick which ones we thought represented us. i chose bravery. also- the soulmates concepts? that is so fcking cool. honestly it's like so clever and presented so well that it feels canon to the actual game.
this whole route felt a lot more personal than the 1st one. we spend a lot more time with sans and all it feels very deja vu which he comments on a lot. it felt like our bond and connection was already there and that we could feel it both. i loved that. even with the other characters too!!! we got to spend so much more time with them and it felt like we were actually forming bonds- i was falling in love with them all too just in a platonic sense. i guess i was soulmates with them too.
then finally, i got to the table scene, SANS REJECTS ME AGAIN, and im like no what the fuck that cant be it. like surely it cant.
so when we're about to go home, THE FCKING FLOWER SHOWS UP WITH SANS AND HE FCKING KILLS US AND THE GAME CRASHES???? THAT IS SO FUCKING COOL. I WAS LITERALLY IN SHOCK- I KID YOU NOT.
but oh my god. the hopes and dreams scene.
THE HOPES AND DREAMS SCENE. HOLY FUCK. MY HEART. I WAS SCREAMING.
IT WAS SO FCKING COOL. THE WAY OUR SOULS DANCED TOGETHER. MY GOD. THE WAY WE REACHED OUT TO HIM AND CALLED FOR HIM. HOYL FCUCCKKCK SJFBDBJ. oh my god.
and then at the end where there was nothing and he whispered that code to us- THE GAME CLOSES AGAIN. AND IM LIKE WHAT THE FUCK. AND THEN FLOWEY IS THERE.
ah shit. here we go again.
3RD ROUTE
okay for this one- i think i got confused. i think i ended up actually playing the secret ending where you go on a date with papyrus and give him a smooch at the end? i think thats probably bc i told him i wanted to go on a date instead of doing that battle on the bridge lol. but it was still fun! i considered our kiss at the end like a little platonic kiss and i liked how papyrus felt a connection with us. i did too! it wasn't a romantic one, maybe not even platonic, but it was love- just like papyrus said there was a connection we shared and i loved that. it was just love, pure and simple. i really appreciated that too. then flowey shows up again, we chat, and then he makes his little sassy remarks as usual and then i'm back to the main screen. so now im like huh. well this obviously wasn't the true ending. so i probably needed to fall off the bridge again...
TRUE LOVE ROUTE
okay i think this is called the true love route??
but basically to get it, you have to ask papyrus to continue on with the bridge fight instead of going on a date with him, sans will catch you again when you fall, etc and then once you're alone with him at the restaurant you'll get the chance to tell him the code
and of course, it's i'm the ultimate fartlord. or it was smth like that. but yeah. of course it is.
at first, i was laughing so hard bc of it but then i started to panic bc i was like wait. shit. did he really just prank us with that? like was this whole thing a prank to him?
but then no. he takes us to the judgement hall.
and holy fuck. i was SQUEALING. THIS WAS THE BEST FCKING SCENE EVER. OH MY GOD.
when we kissed 😭😭😭😭 when he admitted he wanted to be our soulmates too!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭 WHEN HE STARTED CRYING 😭😭😭😭😭
that whole scene of us just being there, kissing, and him confessing how much he cares about us.. my god. it was so perfect.
i loved the line where it was like we were "daring the resets to tear us apart" BC THEY COULDNT EVEN STOP OUR LOVE FOR EACH OTHER 😭😭😭😭😭
and then maybe the best moment. when he said our name.
up until then, i don't think anybody had said our name in the game. but when i said "ily" and he replied with "take care of yourself ()" I WAS FUCKING DEAD. LIKE LITERALLY. I CRIED. I SCREAMED. I DID EVERYTHING. WHAT THE FUCK.
i admit, i wish he had said i love you back but i think that was his way of saying i love you.
then the credits showed up. that was fucking incredible. it was so cute. i skipped a little bit ahead and then we got the scene where we laid down with him underneath the stars.
AND WHEN HE MADE THE WISH FOR US TO BE SOULMATES AND HE WAS LIKE "OH IT ALREADY CAME TRUE DIDN'T IT???" OH MY GOD 😭😭😭😭
and then there was just us in the cave and the stars. then "the end" showed up instead of flowey and there was a quit option. holy fuck. so many emotions.
for one, holy shit i did it. sans is finally happy and i got the true(at least i think it is) ending.
but everything else. oh my god. sans loves me 😭 i love sans. this reminded me why sans is my favorite character of all time. you've shown me why i'm still so in love with him since 2015 😭😭😭 why i still love this game and these characters. they're home. and this also felt like home too.
this was... fucking amazing. ik i'm probably bugging you with this long-ass review and for that i do sincerely apologize but i felt like writing one this long was the least that i could do for such an amazing game like this. the fact that it was free too?? and so much time and effort and love and care went into it??
it was just. so amazing. i know i'm repetetive but my god. so amazing 😭 i love you and i love sans and i just loved it. i really did. thank you so much. that was fantastic.
Now I guess the only route left would be the Genocide Route??? Which I might try even tho I kind of don't want to spoil our happy ending 😭😭😭 it's like the same thing with Undertale- of course I don't want to ruin our happy life but at the same time I wanna see what will happen... 😔 but anyway, I will most likely write another review about the Genocide route when I do it!!!
Again, so sorry for such a long review. But what you have made was really remarkable and just so amazing and incredible. Thank you so much. I really, truly did enjoy it. Thank you ❤️❤️❤️.
Thank you sooooo much for taking the time to write your thoughts on the VN!! ;n; Please don't apologize for writing a long comment! It always makes me absolutely thrilled to get these kinds of comments! I read every word you wrote and I can't tell you how much I appreciate it!
I'm really glad you loved the illustration I commissioned from my friend, Mmishee! I saw examples of their work and knew right away I wanted them to draw a poster for the game!
And I'm glad you liked the artwork in the intro! That I drew myself! Though I struggled a bit, I really wanted to do all the in-game illustrations and sprites myself! :) And I'm glad you liked all the cool little coding things I put in the game, too!
!!! SPOILERS
I'm so glad that you thought that Sans was written well. I really strived to make him as close to the funny skeleton we all know and love (with a SOULmate twist, of course!) But of course, I had to add a little flirty flair via the MTT Resort comedy routine. ;) And I'm glad you thought I re-created the vibe of Undertale! I really wanted to re-create that feeling of the Underground as best as I could!
It seems that you found the secret route by resetting the second time! And that's a really cute way to interpret that route with Papyrus! I wanted to make sure the other skelebro got some love, too!
I did want to mention, however, after the Hopes and Dreams segment when you load up the game again and Flowey talks about giving you a SAVE file... he actually does do that. It's the SAVE file called "Sans Reservations." And that would've taken you directly to the end of the True Love route and to the part of MTT Resort where you can tell him the secret codeword. :D You eventually found it, you just took a little detour! And there's nothing wrong with that, either! It means you got to spend time with Papyrus more, too!
That scene in the judgment hall was probably the first scene I wrote and the first scene I imagined when I was in the writing process of Dating Start! I wanted it to feel like a release of all the emotions that have been building up to that point. And the "daring the resets to try and tear you apart" was one of my favorite lines to write. :)
Good luck if you to the True LOVE/No Love (Genocide) route! I don't want to say any more about it. You understand, I'm sure. =)
Thank you again for writing your thoughts on the VN and for playing it! I'm glad it warmed your heart with love.
I just realized I never answered your question about the player's dream! There's a reason for the order.
1.) First scare - the fear of getting hurt (emotionally)
2.) Plunging into water, clarity in the snow and rain- pushing past the fear, plunging into love and being comforted by it
3.) Second scare - turning your back on the comfort and love and taking a more violent path
Just like Undertale, I expect most players to experience Dating Start! in that order. Act One (Common Route) --> True Love --> No Love (if they so choose)
So the dream, though only detailing vague images and feelings, will foretell the same. :)
I'm glad you loved the VN! And I wish we could do that too! But I did feel it was just right to end it there. Gives the right amount of longing at the end. <3
And we can always take them all to the surface in our minds. ;n;
Thank you so much for playing! I'm glad that you were blushing while playing! It means I crafted the scenes just right! >:3 And it's always fun to see others filling in the crossword for fun LOL Especially because of that one particular word that doesn't necessarily fit properly hahaha
hey! Before I ask you how I can get through the secret ending, I will say that this game made me remember the feelings that I had when I played undertale, thanks again for your work, good luck to you))
Thank you so much for playing! I'm glad it gave you those feelings!
!! SPOILERS
To get to the secret route, you have to reset and play Act Two again. And then you have to say "Go on a date" when the time comes. Then you'll be on the secret route. There's only one "ending."
Thank you for your help, but I just realized that I had already passed it ghm, it's rather strange, but I felt like a villainess when I started freaking with sans brother and it made me very funny feelings -3-
Hey! I just finished your game and really enjoyed it. I loved the way you wrote the characters and all the interactions felt really accurate and genuine to the original props to that.
I really want to access the music room but I needed to reinstall my game after the true LOVE play through. is there a way to find the links in the files?
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thank you so much for playing!! :)
You can't see all the music in the music room unless you play through again and unlock everything. However, there is a playlist that was made online of most of the music in the game! (The only song missing is "Confessions".)
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This game is amazing I loved it I'm not really a simple type of guy but this got me the arts beautiful and the endings are so good and emotional (I don't really wanna go for the no love ending cause of how sad I'm gonna get) but this was amazing a good way to spend almost 5 hours :3
Thank you so much for playing and for taking the time to comment! I'm glad you gave it a chance! And I'm happy that you enjoyed it and that the emotions reached you! ^^
I'm reading the comments and actually relating to them. I was never like, a fan of shipping or fangirls or anything but damn. this game is long, creative, beautiful, has a beautiful story, and I actually almost cry at the end. I dont even know what to say, it has become one of my favorite games of all time.
so thank you for making this, you are wonderful!
edit: had to verify my email :P
also, what is the fourth photo of the album? im pretty sure I already played through the whole game
Thank YOU so much for playing! :D I'm always very happy to hear when those who aren't really fans of shipping/fangirls enjoyed the game. It really means a lot that you decided to try it! At the end of the day, I hoped to tell a story that could reach all fans of Undertale, should they choose to play it.
!! SPOILERS, just in case!
The fourth photo is actually from the Sans fight during the No Love (True LOVE) route. It's basically from the bad ending if you keep the knife and decide to use it... =)
huh, I'm pretty sure I already made this ending, but I will (unfortunately, it's sad and difficult :(( ) make it again to make sure, thanks !! very grateful from your reply :))
i made an account just to express how much i loved this,you may have heard this a lot already but this game made me so happy,i'll make sure to play all the other ones,thank you for making so much effort into making these,i hope we'll get to see more great things from you!
Thank you for playing and for taking the time to make an account to leave a comment! It really means so much that you enjoyed my little love letter to this series and this character.
the game is fun and awesome. im really sad it ended but i enjoyed it. thank you for putting so much effort in this game. hope you make a lot of games like this one. have a nice day and again thank you, you really made me happy.
I'm glad the game made you happy and that you enjoyed it! It always means so much to know what other people think. Thank you for playing!
Hellooo just to say I loved this game, I did the True love ending but I wanted to do it all again, repeat the good ending, but I can't bring myself to reset after that beautiful fairytale ending. I tried to get a clean state but I wasn't able to do it :(. Could you please help me? I followed your instructions but it didn't work.
EDIT: Nevermind I got it :))
Thank you so much for playing! I'm glad you thought of it as a fairytale ending! That's exactly the kind of feeling I was going for here, in an Undertale sort of way. :)
11/10 i really love this VN, it manage to make me laugh,sad,happy, and even a bit of crying... You did a VERY splendid job on making this game. Looking forward for your new games!!!
I'm glad you enjoyed it and that the emotions reached you! Thank you so so much for playing! ^^ Hoping to make more VNs in the future!
Hii, I was wondering if you know how to delete all previous data and begin from a new slate but on a Mac? I've tried just deleting them from my files and the bin, but it still keeps my old data. Btw I've played both of your games and have really adored them 🥺
Nevermind! HAHA, I found your instructions for Mac! Thanks so much.
I'm glad you were able to find the instructions! And thank you so much for playing my VNs! I'm really glad you enjoyed them!! ^^
Could you tell me where they are?
Ok so I played this game a long, long time ago, made genocide route and all, but I REALLY want to replay it from scratch, is there any way to detele all my saves from previous routes? ;-;
I have the updated instructions for a clean slate here: https://itch.io/post/2792964
Omg thank you so so much!!
God, I can really feel the sheer amount of love (definitely not LOVE) and time and effort you poured into creating this game. All the details, all the callbacks, the quality of the writing, the really genuine and heartfelt exploration of what it might look like for canon Sans to fall in love. I'm not a big Sans shipper, but do love the character in general. I went in expecting a few good laughs about dating funny sad skeleton man, came out the other end of the True Love route having cried multiple times. I've had the window open on the The End screen for about an hour just listening to the water noises, thinking about Sans and his soulmate laying down to rest together beneath the Underground's 'stars'.
I'm curious about the Secret Route, but I have no idea where I'd remotely begin trying to get there, so I think I may leave it here. I'm not sure I have the heart to put poor Sans through anything else, haha.
This is without a doubt the best fan game I've ever played. Thank you for giving us all the privilege of being able to enjoy this.
I'm happy the emotions reached you! I'll always consider this VN my love letter to Sans and to Undertale. And it means so much that the emotions I poured into this have been felt, even just a little. (Regarding the "The End" screen, I'm glad to hear that you did that. I wanted the player to feel compelled to linger in the world just a little longer before having to close it.) The Secret Route does require a RESET. But, of course, I will leave that up to you. :) The fact that you don't want to put Sans through anything means the writing did its job. Thank you so much for playing! And thank you for taking the time to leave a comment!
Playing through this game, I felt teleported back to my 2016 Undertale phase. This game reignited my love for Sans and made my urge to read Sans x Reader stories again extremely strong. I've played through both the True Love and the True LOVE routes and LOVED the writing. It felt nostalgic, in an odd way, while still being unique when compared to Sans x Reader fanfics. I fully plan to get the Secret Ending after I properly reset everything and can't wait to see it. I almost wish this game had more content, as there aren't many Undertale Dating Sims in general, but at the same time, it's the perfect length just the way it is. Thank you so much for such an amazing game!
I'm glad that it reignited that for you and that you liked the writing! I really tried to keep the Undertale feeling, while still putting my own writing flair into it. I wanted the visual novel to have just a hint of a fairytale feeling. I hope you enjoy the Secret Ending, as well! Thank you for playing and for taking the time to leave a comment!
Sooo it was a really awesome game! I couldn't get to download it at my pc because of some reasons...but I still manage to play it at my cousin pc :)..It was so touching..Anyway back to my questions..
What I want to ask is..Did something going to happend\change if we changed our name when we try to play 'ACT 2'?
Like for example we put our name [Example Lily] in the first run and then we decided to play 'ACT 2' and the game was actually do give us a option to change our name [Example Blood]..And well maybe you get what I meant...
(In case you dont get it..
we put our name first..and we complete the 'true love' route and we all know sans could remember every reset and changes [same as flowey]..
So when we play 'ACT 2' and changed our name and then any of the character ask about our name we said that our name is our second name..
Doesn't that make sans or flowey think that 'us' wasn'actually 'us'?)
I'm glad you enjoyed and found it touching! Thank you so much for playing! I'm glad you managed to play it, despite the trouble! :)
!! SPOILERS !!
So the only person that knows that you changed your name is actually Flowey. He will comment on it and ask why you changed your name. He'll even make a callback to whatever the first name you picked was. But he still knows (or believes) that it's the same person playing.
And the same goes with Sans. Even if you change your name, he still knows that it's you. His SOUL is connected to yours as your SOULmate. And that connection is unique. So having a different name won't make a difference for him.
Oh thanks for the info!
And also I wanted your permission to use your storyline to make an Undertale AU!
But the storyline will be changed by the way my oc past story is though...But I will credit you for inspiring me for this AU!
Soo what do you think will you give me the permission to use your work/storyline for this AU?
(Do Not Worry I Will Credit You As The Original Content Creator Of This Work/Storyline!)
:D
And also one last question (maybe- :v)
Does that mean Sans know that we changed our name? And will he mentions it too in one of his dialouge?
Also is there an options in well when the game ask us about our trait of soul..is there a secret options where you could say that you 'SOULless'? Or that the only opions they gived?
(And you maybe be wondering...why would I ask such a question? well my imaginations is like turn on right now..and with this question I was like 'Hey you know what would be funny? that Sans managed to make you his SOULmate even thoughtyou were SOULless!)
And one last question...(Sorry :b)
Did I need to buy 'winzip' to unzip this game?
because thats what it keep telling me to do...
And if it didnt need or need to..could you show me how?
I have a twitter account soo..maybe you could show me there?
Here is my twitter - @TEHCUP161010
No need to be sorry! I'm happy you're interested in the storyline! :D I'll try to answer all your questions here:
Make sure "Show extracted files when complete" is checked, then click "Extract."
your wrong about only love sans I am right now dating papyrus....
This game is a well crafted masterpiece.
The characterization of all the characters is spot on and I found myself blushing and connecting to the undertale cast before me.
I liked Undertake when it first came out, but I was never a massive fan of it. Yet this piece of fan media has touched me and ignited a love for it I don't think I had before.
You made an adult person blush over a cartoon skeleton like I was 14 again reading my first lemon fanfiction. That takes skill.
The writing was wholesome and made me feel like I was coming home.. I love all of them and they are my friends and family.
SPOILER; READ NO FURTHER
I played through the genocide run and it broke me. I tried to play through to get the good ending again and found myself emotionally devastated when Chara made me kill Sans.
I suspected something bad would happen because of my decision to give my soul to Chara to reset the world, but I didn't know that the price would never being able to be with my love again; doomed to kill him again and again.
It made me wish dearly I could undo everything I had done. To make everything right again and never again stray from my SOULmate.
I almost cried when I realized even after deleting and re-downloading the entire game - my old save was still in play.
Thankfully, I found instructions here to get a clean slate- if I couldn't have found that, I might have been in a foul state of mind all day.
I plan to play through at least one more time to Sans the ending he deserves.
PS I also like how Sans seems to like the player regardless of what their true soul is.
Thank you, thank you so much for playing and for your words! It means so much to know the story had that effect! If I'm being honest, I really just poured my emotions over the page in hopes that even a drop of it would be felt.
!!! SPOILERS
I think the genocide/True LOVE route was one of the most difficult things about making this. I wanted to make sure that it was satisfying and heartbreaking the first time around to those that were curious enough. But at the same time, I needed to make it so that each repetition of a scene made it lose its impact. And the consequences it would have in a reattempt at the good ending/True Love... that was one of the first things I had planned from the very first brainstorm session for the VN. And I'm glad that the route and its consequences had that effect on you. But I'm also glad you were able to get a clean slate. :)
Also, I wanted to make sure that all the SOUL colors had their bits of flavor (color changes, the description of the SOUL). But I didn't want that to impact how Sans saw the player. I wanted Sans to feel connected to the player no matter what their SOUL was. Kind of like "I love you for you" but without needing to say those exact words.
Thank you again for taking the time to comment and for playing. I'm glad the VN warmed your heart with love.
I have played this game when it came out, and i just finished the papyrus game and i couldnt stop blushing! your writing and ideas are wonderful ! i really hope you dont stop making these cause they are AMAZING
Thank you so much for playing both Dating Start! and Hold the Awkward! I'm glad you enjoyed both VNs! And I certainly plan to make more VNs in the future (both Undertale and originals)!
AAAA Awesome! i really cant wait, i really suggest diving into the AUs but other than that ANYTHING you make is wonderful and unique and really feels like a true experience , thank you for everything!
This game is absolutely remarkable. I really can't say enough good things about your writing: the humor, the character voices, how sweet and gentle the romance is, how absolutely heartbreakingly palpable the moments of pining and withdrawal are. I know another commenter mentioned it, but yes, that moment where you're seeing your own soul, and Sans sees it too, the sort of breathelssness and wonder... you nailed it. This is a beautiful game. Thank you so much for making it and sharing it.
The painful part is knowing that the True LOVE route exists and wanting to know what you wrote for it because you're a great writer and I want to see what you imagined, while absolutely not having the heart to actually play through it, hahahaha. Just like in Undertale, you've made me too invested in the narrative of the world to be willing to satisfy my curiosity by hurting people, even if they're fictional. :')
Thank you so much for playing and for commenting! I'm glad you enjoyed the writing! I honestly just poured my emotions onto the page and hoped that others would feel even a drop of what I felt. And I'm glad that you have that hesitation to play through True LOVE! It means that the VN did its job. :)
Writing the romance and the moments... I needed it to be a dance. There needed to be moments of pause and reflection... and moments of whirlwind emotions that swept players into the world. And I'm glad you thought I captured the silent wonder of the SOUL scene. It was one of my favorite scenes to write. I wanted both the player and Sans to share the same sense of wonder of seeing the player's SOUL vulnerable for the first time.
Thank you again for playing and for taking the time to comment! I appreciate the words more than you know.
"I needed it to be a dance. There needed to be moments of pause and reflection... and moments of whirlwind emotions that swept players into the world."
You absolutely accomplished this. As a writer myself, I can see the care that went into creating that vision, and as a player, I felt it.
Also -- I ended up admiring your writing so much that I wanted to know your thoughts and choices for the True LOVE route just THAT badly, so... jakl;sdff;kasd I did end up deciding to play it. I'm glad I did, because even though it was gut-wrenching, I got to see what you, as a creator, envisioned, and I think you did a great job. Hopefully this doesn't sound too creepy, but I wanted to know your thoughts and feelings about both the story that you've created, and about Sans's story and the central themes of UT more broadly. In other words, I was wondering, "What is this creator's lens on the more painful aspects of UT itself? How will the personal impact that UT had on her be 'translated' and constructed into this story and game? What choices as a writer and game developer will she make to reach the players?" I was so moved by the parts of the game I had played that, well... I'm going to sound like a broken record, but I really wanted to know!
So I had to separate myself out from being "in" the game as the character, which is a shady thing to do, if we follow the game's internal logic. I tend to really buy into a world as it's presented if I find it compelling, so the stress that Undertale's, I guess we could call them "metaphysics," puts on my moral core is what keeps me from ever being able to play anything but pure pacifist in UT proper (although I've read extensively about the parts of the game I didn't explore and one could call that cheating;;;; Flowey certainly would). But... I wanted to know what you had created strongly enough to erect that mental division, and it allowed me to appreciate something you put a lot of time into thinking about and creating. What you did with the True LOVE route is very evocative and meaningful, intimate to your specific game but also relaying a clear love and respect for Undertale's vision itself, at least as far as I understand it without being in Toby Fox's head. Also? I think the way you did the Sans battle was very clever and well-executed. Just wanted to mention that specifically because it stands out so much in terms of mechanics.
Anyway, thank you so much for creating and sharing this. It really is a wonderful work.
Thank you for playing! I'm glad that you're satisfied with the True Love ending! I wanted True Love to be able to stand on its own, without a need for True LOVE. However, I also wanted to tempt players with the fact it DOES exist.
I'm glad you think it was well developed! I tried my best to capture that Undertale feeling. But, of course, I had to put my own spin on it as well!
Thank you so much for commenting!
[Comment may contain spoilers, read at your own risk]
:3 I love it, its a great game with awesome writing! Made me cry at one point but I'm pretty sure i got the True Love ending. Now i cant bring myself to play anymore to see the Secret Route Ending, Since I'm somewhat suspicious & weird, I don't want to take away the monsters & Pc insert's happy ending by resetting.
I don't personally want to ever see the True LOVE (No Love) ending and so I was pretty shocked when the Pc insert woke up with a knife during my second play-through. At my core I'm a soul of kindness though i do have other traits that fit me as well.
I only did three play-through runs and one of those was a caused by a load. After loading up and playing the first time which resulted in no ending [I think anyways] I reset, second play-through resulted in a desktop crash (a scripted one) which I had to used a load, and final play-through is where i got the True Love ending.
This more of personal thing for myself so take it with a grain of salt as a con but I wish the Pc insert could ask for permission before kissing Sans.
Thank you so much for playing! I'm glad to hear that you loved the VN! And I'm glad that the emotions reached you! It does sound like you completed True Love, yes. ^^ I don't blame you for not wanting to see True LOVE. Thankfully, that means that you and Sans can stay in True Love and live happily ever after. :) And I totally understand where you're coming from regarding the kisses, but I'm glad you enjoyed the VN all the same!
hey!! i just had to drop by and say that i finished this game just a few minutes ago and honestly i'm??? SO impressed by it as a whole?
the writing is fantastic, almost comparable to the original game and the emotions i felt while playing this reminded me of the original game so much as well. i feel like, even without the main story/dating mechanic, you were able to portray Undertale at its core so well? if that makes sense?? probably not ahah--
but in the dating mechanic/storyline itself! the emotions were there, and palpable and it was beautiful somehow, just. how you portrayed everything!! i love how Sans is characterized and the relationship we build with him through the resets feels so personal and genuine. i'm not sure i could go back and do it all again because of that very reason, as much as i might want to :'D i think i just, love him too much and. like obviously it's just a game, but the way you write him makes him feel real somehow, just like the original game did. it'd break my heart to rip it away and make him go through all that again, even if it's fictional, honestly-- :'D that's how you know you made something truly worth experiencing and visceral, and i commend you so much for it!
i can tell you put SO much love and care into this project and, i love it so much. not only did it remind me of the original game but it somehow felt like i was playing the original game itself. a lot of the feelings i have for Undertale came back through this, and took me back in a way as to why i love it so much. this made my heart so happy to play and honestly i wish i could relive it again and again, it was amazing. i'm a little sad it's over but i'm very happy i got to experience it for what it is!
thank you so, so much for this gem of an UT fangame <333
Thank you so much for playing it! And I'm so glad the feelings were palpable! This truly is my love letter to this world and to these characters, especially Sans. And to know that the emotions of that letter reached so many people, that's honestly more than I could ever ask for.
I'm glad you liked my characterization of Sans! I honestly wanted the relationship to feel personal to the point where the hidden emotions burst into life! And knowing that you have that hesitation to reset.... it means I did my job as a writer and a VN dev. We're always sad it's over, but we can always bring these characters with us. :)
Thank you so much for taking the time to leave your thoughts. Stay determined.
I don't remember writing a comment about this game when i played it, but i don't mind write again about how i absolutely adore it, love it, fond of it, it gave me many many emotions and i SO cried because of it, man, i wish there was more games like "DATING START!", because i frikin LOVE that kind of games, even laying aside the romance stuff (which btw was soooooo idk how to even say this aside from "i loved it so much") the writing was just wooooooooo man it gave me the feels
vvvvv Maybe a minor spoiler?????? vvvvvvv
Also, how can i get a "better conversation", as Sans implied? or is it really just a little trolling on perfectionist players? :D
I think I remember you commenting before!! But I definitely appreciate you commenting again! It really does mean a lot that you enjoyed the VN so much!! ^^
!! Spoilers, just in case :)
Ah it seems you caught me red-handed LOL That is, indeed, a little trolling on the perfectionist/completionist players! All in good fun, of course! :D
When I played this game I was crying really bad I LOVE THIS GAME!
Ahhhh I'm so glad the emotions reached you! Thank you for playing! :D
And Thank You For making this game! :D
Spoilers?
So I did the no love route. I see sans through the hall, and then we battle, right? So, when he showed me his special attack, I died in an instant. That's meant to happen? And when I die, I keep spawning in the place, the hall, this looks like an endless loop, I don't know if this actually how it goes.
But anyway, this game is very amazing, I loved it a lot.
Spoilers!!
I'm glad you enjoyed the game! When you die in an instant.... are you clicking "MERCY"? Clicking that would kill you in an instant and send you back to the beginning. When it's his special attack and he's just standing there, you have to find the "FIGHT" option. It's somewhere there on the screen.
!! Spoiler for the fight
The hidden "FIGHT" button is under the textbox. You have to click the textbox and drag it. :) That will secure your victory and complete the No Love route.
OH, THANK YOU!😋✨✨
Btw ↓↓
SPOILER ENDING?
When I met with Chara I clicked on erase, I try to go back and click the other option but when I open the game it's all black since yk, I erased everything. How do I go back?
!! SPOILERS !!
Just sit there and wait for a bit. Chara will talk to you again and ask you to give something. If you want to go back, make sure you say YES.
This is an absolute gem of a fangame. Even setting aside the main conceit (dating Sans) it's a wonderful love letter to Undertale in and of itself! It manages to pack so much into its runtime, and I find myself replaying it every so often because it has the same cozy feeling I loved from Undertale. Even more than keeping the mechanics Undertale initially employed, it's important to nail the heart and the feeling behind the game, and you really got everyone here 100%!
!!! MINOR SPOILERS HERE, BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY !!!
Seeing and interacting with the other characters feels like coming home, a happy little glimpse into their lives past Undertale's end. I especially adore the roleplaying scene with Alphys and Undyne; it's hilarious while also feeling warm and affectionate, with all the love going around everyone, between the MC's pining and Undyne and Alphys's own relationship! Every character was incredibly true to themselves, up to all their quirks and mannerisms, and it makes every part of this game such a delight to read.
I can't skip over the writing of the main draw either. The way the relationship with Sans is built over multiple RESETs is so charming and feels so true, with the hints of his character we got in the original game; of course he wouldn't be that easy of a nut to crack, even with his friendly attitude. More than that, the moments between him and the MC are written with such genuine emotion and care that it never fails to get me, no matter how many times I replay the game. Catch me in the club crying over the quiet wonder perfectly captured in the scene where he sees MC's soul even after I've read it for the 100th time in a row!!
From the bottom of my heart, thank you for bringing this project to life and releasing it into the world.
I'm so glad that the emotions reached you, both the Sans and non-Sans scenes! I just wanted to pour as much of my emotions and love onto the page/screen in hopes that others would be able to feel it. And it makes me so happy to know it was felt!
!!!! SPOILERS JUST IN CASE
I'm so glad you were able to feel the silent wonder in the SOUL reveal scene! I wanted to have it feel like a moment that was so precious, but so fragile even a whisper could shatter it. That was one of my favorite scenes to write :) Then again, I guess I had many scenes that were my favorite to write LOL
Thank you so much for playing and for taking the time to comment. <3
Hello Cho I return because I took another replay through the game recently and I think you'd enjoy my tale of the unintentional bonus pinch of pain I experienced when I decided to finally tackle the No Love route. Posting it down here instead of in a new comment to hide it better, but just in case!
!!! SPOILERS !!!
For No Love route I changed the name (because on some level I am still a weenie), and the thing is. When I did this. I managed to skip over Flowey's whole barb about it in the beginning. So I went through the ENTIRE ROUTE having no idea that it hadn't truly mattered, which made Sans saying the first name I input instead of the name I put in for that specific playthrough at the end hit WAY HARDER sdhgfjsdg
It truly was the most karmic of punishments and I'm laughing thinking about it even now!!
Hi there!! It's always nice to see you here! I'm always excited to hear about everyone's playthroughs!
!!! SPOILERS (just in case) !!!
Ohohohoho no no you're not a weenie! But yes, I kinda banked on majority of people playing through True Love before No Love. So I wanted to have Sans only say your name from the True Love playthrough. As a little... reminder so-to-speak =) Or course, if someone went straight to No Love, then it'd just be whatever name was picked then.
Thank you so much for playing! I'm really happy that you enjoyed the VN! I'm glad the emotions reached you! And I'm flattered that you rated it infinity out of ten!! Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment.
Thank you for making the game :)
I just finished playing this game and I am honestly in such awe! This game left me so emotional I swear lolol. I appreciate the efforts you put in it as well, and genuinely like to thank you for the amount of fun I had playing it! (Everything about this game has been magnificently executed!) <3
I'm so glad you enjoyed the VN and that the emotions reached you! Thank you so much for playing and for your kind words! <3
Hello~ I can believe I only discovered this game now! I really enjoyed your game and I really appreciate all the efforts you put in it ^^
May contains spoilers:
I was so confused that the resets were also a thing and it was needed to proceed Sans' route haha (or I think so? I just kept resetting until I was able to go with Sans finally), but I really liked it! It was so cute o//o so I thank you with my whole heart to make that game (also urged
pressuredmy friends to play it haha)Another funny thing that happened is, after I was supposed to save Sans by doing another reset, some options were giving to me so I wanted to try them (like, asking Paps a date, but I ended up dating him for real and again, I was really confused and like "ayo give me Sans, my poor skeleton is waiting for me DD:")
Sorry for writing a really long review (if I can call this a review? more like fangirling over a fangame but anyway)
Um I also saw in the FAQ that you were not currently planning to translate the game, but I happen to be a student from a French Master degree specialised in technical translation and writing.
We work on volunteer translation projets (normally charity projets) to gain experience. So I was wondering if you would accept that a small Undertale fans team could translate your game in French, I would be so happy to allow french UT fans to enjoy your game as well~ And as I said, we are fully aware that it would be a volunteer job, so no problem ^^ If you want further information, please contact me I would love to help you ^^!
Hi! Thank you so much for playing and for commenting! I'm happy you enjoyed it! And don't be sorry! I always love reading long reviews (or fangirling). ^^
And regarding the translation, thank you so much for offering! That means a lot! I'm going to see if I can clean up my code for translations. If it works out, I'll definitely reach out! Please email me at <redacted> so I can have your email! :)
i have no idea why i enjoyed the game so much that i played this w my friends to see them suffer while voicing the characters, their throats were always scarred after voicing papyrus lmfao weak
I'm glad you enjoyed it that much! Voice acting with friends is always a lot of fun. :) Sorry their voices hurt afterwards, though. Hope you all had fun, regardless!
EYO SPOLIERS AHEAD SO LIKE DON'T READ THIS IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED YET
Crying, shitting, crying even more THE FIRST ROUTE I EVER GOT WAS THE TRUE LOVE ENDING PRETTY SURE WHICH MADE ME CRY A LOT NGL WITH YOU
I really love the mechanics of this game it really did suprize me a lot on how the resets would work
BUT OH BOY WHEN I DECIDED TO DO THE SECRET ENDING WITH GOING ON A DATE WITH PAPYRUS RIGHT AFTER I JUST FINISHED THE SO CALLED TRUE LOVE ENDING IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD I JUST KNEW "Sans will still remember the last timeline won't he?" LIKE ALL I WAS THINKING WAS HOW WOULD HE REACT TO LIKE GOING ON A DATE WITH PAPAYRUS AND ALL AND WHEN I WENT TO SHAKE HIS HAND I LITERALLY JUST KNEW AS THE MUSIC JUST CHANGED
"You feel your SOUL flicker, for the briefest of moments"
"It's warm and familiar, but it grows distant as he pulls his away"
I KEEP ON REPEATING THE SAME THING BUT LITERAL TEARS, THE MOMENT I REALIZED, just c r i e s
Literally felt like I just betrayed the poor bone man :')
WHETHER IM ASSUMING WRONG BUT I'M SURE HE JUST KNEW
HE REMEMEBERED THE OLD TIMELINE WHERE US THE PLAYER AND HIM WERE TOGETHER
IT LITERALLY MADE ME SO SAD PLEASE THE WAY I SLOWLY PLACED MY FACE ONTO MY HANDS
IM SOBBINGITS THE LOOK HE GAVE I SWEAR
MaN, game be making me sob at like 1am in the morning lMAO, was literally physically slamming my hands on my table multiple times playing through this it would be amusing to watch
I don't have the heart to do the genocide run but all in all this is s great game guys, really just, w o w I'm genuinely speechless
EDIT: FLOWEY U SICK BASTARD U DIDN'T HAVE TO REMIND ME MY GOD
I think it's the fact that flowey can and will comment about your actions throughout the playthroughs, resets, runs, that give me the utter chills, it's because floewey k n o w s
Thank you so much for playing!! I'm glad that you enjoyed it!
!!! SPOILERS !!!
I'm glad the emotions reached you on that part! It means the scene did its job. Your assumption is correct. :) That flickering of the player's SOUL, that's the SOULmate flicker. And we're not the only one that feels it. Sans feels it, too. And he realizes that, despite solidifying that bond in a previous timeline.... you decided not to reunite with him as a SOULmate. Of course, he's happy for his brother and he's happy for the player.
But it hurts him.
I would've loved to see that reaction, honestly LOL It always makes me so happy to know that people get so into the story that they have to flail or slam their hands on the table.
And, of course, Flowey wouldn't be Flowey if there wasn't a comment or two (or twenty) about your playthroughs. ;)
Thank you again for playing and taking the time to comment!!
I was unsure on how I would feel about this game when I first started it, but my uncertainty was quickly put to rest once I fully embraced the experience. Not only was it fun to interact with Sans, but I highly enjoyed interacting with the other characters as well.
Once the deeper parts of the story began to unfold I was completely and utterly hooked on it, and I actually found myself being touched by some of the scenes. I even started to cry once I made my promise, 'cause I know I won't be able to break it. Even going back for a quick check once I finished the game with the "True Love" ending had me in tears as Sans spoke to me; reassuring me. I couldn't possibly take away that good ending from him, no matter how curious I am about the rest of the game. I'll let him be happy.
Thank you for making this wonderful game. You've definitely made me very happy for its existence, and your attention to detail certainly made it a wonderful experience. Hopefully my gratitude is successfully sent from me, to you. Much love!
Thank you so much for playing and for taking the time to comment! I'm glad that you enjoyed the experience and that the emotions reached you! I hoped to send everyone through an emotional journey with this VN.
Just knowing that at least one person felt even a tiny sample of the emotions I put into this, that's honestly more than I could ever ask for. :)
This is such a delightful gem of a game! You really caught the spirit of Undertale. I loved all the little details included and the attention paid to the supporting characters. One of my very favorite moments was Toriel's reassurance after the player confesses their nightmare - so touching! Like Undertale, the thing that takes the most determination with this game is putting it down after a happy ending. <3
Thanks so much and well done!!!
Thank you so much for playing!! I'm glad you could feel the Undertale spirit! That's something I really strived for! And the Act Two Toriel scenes were one of my favorite moments, too. :) I wanted to make sure the supporting cast also got their moments!
I loved it so much.
I wasn't able to go through the Genocide route in Undertale -I was feeling sooo guilty when I tried, I swear It's so difficult for me to be mean in games XD -but somehow I did it for your game, I was too damn curious. I did a True love -> Secret ending -> True LOVE -> True love ( =) ) run. And it was so good.
I mean, yeah I may have possibly been on the verge of crying a little in the end of the second True love Run, who knows, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PROOF OKAY.
It hit hard, guiltiness was all over my kokoro and it's exactly why you have done a wonderful job !
Thank you for making this game, I'm sure everybody who played it can tell how much passion you put into it <3
PS : I was wondering how much time it took you to make it ?
Also I'm sorry if I made any mistakes with my english ~
Thank you for playing and for commenting! And don't be sorry! Your English is perfect! Also, I won't tell anyone if you almost cried with True love =) It makes me happy to know you felt the emotions I had while making it.
And I'm so happy you could sense the passion I poured into it. It took me 2 years to make this visual novel! :)
I downloaded it. I played it. I got the True Love route. I love it. I love you for making it. Oh my god. I'm crying about it and I love it. I love you. Thank you. Thank you so much. I made an account just for this. I love it. Thank you.
I'm so glad that you enjoyed it and that the emotions reached you! And it means a lot that you made an account just to comment! Thank you so much for playing! Stay determined 🤍
I think this contains minor SPOILERS? So just a heads-up???
So I finished playing through the True LOVE route and then replayed the good sh*t™ route again last night to feel better after and like...
You're so thurough?? And I applaud you!!
But oh my god--- My heart-----
I've never seen a fan game that goes to this extent and I didn't expect it at all when getting into it so I was very scared to find out just how much impact my decisions made.......... (I never played genocide in Undertale cus I have big problems with consequences like these in games so I only watch playthroughs cus I'm way too curious for my own good--- OTL
I would've liked a bigger warning of just how impactful the choices are but I also have myself to blame for not keeping as open a mind when playing these types of games as I will in the future)
g o d . . .
I don't regret playing through every single route at all but I'm gonna need to get to my next therapy session FAST now kjsfhskjdfhksjdg
Thank you for all the hard work you put into it, I bet it's given a lot of people a really enjoyable experience (like it has me) and it's so thurough it feels like a stand-alone game!! which is INSANE with it being FREE!!!
It's clear how much you care about the project and gave it your all and I'm really happy to have gotten to experience something like this!!!
Over-all amazing game!! 10/10, definitely recommend it!!!
Thank you so much!! I'm sorry that a certain part caught you off guard. But I'm very happy that you enjoyed the experience all the same! And I'm glad that the emotions reached you! I just wanted to share this story and my love for the characters. And I'm always so happy to see others have enjoyed it so much!
Thank you again for playing and for taking the time to share your thoughts! Take care and stay determined!
https://itch.io/post/2792964
I just finished the papyrus route and it's so spot on! and so cute! I love papyrus so much and this made my heart melt in all the best ways.
and fuck you flowey you can't make me feel bad for wanting to go on a date with papyrus.
I'm glad you enjoyed the Papyrus secret route! Thank you for playing!
🚫Spoilers for like this whole thing, you've been warned🚫
AAAAHHH This game was really amazing, I loved playing it and the resetting to progress feature is really cool. Tbh I was surprised in the first part that I couldn't get sans but on the second one GOD, it hit me like a truck when sans finally became my soulmate...the scene was so cute and I was literally so happy.....then I remembered the knife and me being the curious person/completionist I am wanted to try out everything....I'm sure you see where I'm going with this. After fighting sans and winning, I faced Chara, mind you I knew what was gonna happen BUT AFTER I TRIED TO GET A TRUE LOVE ENDING AGAIN....I really yelled NO when I saw the red text appear and now....I'm really sad I did genocide and I tried to follow the steps to fully reset and start off blank but It doesn't seem to be working for me, did something change or is it no longer possible to get rid of Chara?
Thank you sooooo much for playing and for your kind words! I'm really happy that you enjoyed it! Also, regarding that certain part at the end, I'm glad it caught you off guard >:)
In regards to resetting, it is still possible to clean slate the game. I only have the instructions for Windows, however. Did you make sure to delete both "DatingStartVN-1.0.2-pc" and "DatingStartVN-102" folders? After that you'll need a new copy of the VN.
https://itch.io/post/2792964
I can't seem to find the appdata file, I do have windows though.
How strange you're not finding the "DatingStartVN-102" folder. Is there anything in the appdata/renpy folder at all? Or is it empty?
You can email me at derpychocho@gmail.com if you want to send screenshots.
Unfortunately it doesn't seem like I have the appdata folder at all, which is really weird, I tried to search for it but nothing seems to pop up
Your appdata folder might be a hidden folder! You might have to show the hidden items/folders in order to find it.
OH. MY. GOD
OH. MY. GOD
okay. okay. let me try to collect my thoughts. okay. okay. take a deep breathe, floralska. get it together.
before i get into my spoiler review: to anybody whose reading this right now stop what you're doing and go download the game. treat it like you did with undertale: absolutely do not read anything about it, don't go on tumblr, twitter, youtube, and especially don't scroll further down this comment section since you will be spoiled. just download it right now and PLAY. THIS. GAME.
EVEN IF YOU AREN'T A FANGIRL/FANBOY OF SANS OR EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ROMANTIC INTEREST IN HIM AT ALL PLAY. THE GAME. ANYWAY. TRUST ME. YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT.
PLAY THIS GAME. IT IS AMAZING, HEARTWARMING, WILL MAKE YOU LAUGH AND CRY, WILL MAKE YOU FEEL NOSTALGIC, WILL GIVE YOU ALL THE BEST FEELS, AND ITS JUST SO PERFECT. 10/10. PLEASE PLAY IT!!!
okay now that's out of the way... onto the spoiler-specific review... (that is also long as hell btw, i do apologize in advance)
!!SPOILERS AHEAD!! PLEASE PLAY THE GAME BEFORE LOOKING AT THIS!!!
okay. holy fucking shit. this game. what the fuck.
this morning, i was just scrolling through the sans undertale tag on twitter and then i find this GORGEOUS artwork of sans for this sans dating game.
now, i think i've seen a pretty fair amount of sans dating games before but i've never actually tried them. from my understanding, they've all been really good quality, as most ut fangames are but like i said never tried them before.
but this artwork it's just so gorgeous and there's a link to the game underneath it and the game is free. so i'm like "yeah why not, got nothing else better to do, let me procrastinate doing school work and see what this game is all about."
holy. fucking hell.
i mean like. the quality of it. right off the bat we get the ut intro and im already like awwwwww look at the artwork. it's so cute! and frisk and asgore 🥺🥺🥺🥺 the callbacks r great. i really like how reminiscent of undertale it is? i mean like- yeah DUH it's going to be reminiscent of undertale bc its literally a fangame for it but sometimes certain fangames just don't really get the... vibe of undertale you know? but this one does and we're not even in the game yet
then we get to name the human! and by that point, i was really happy bc yes holy shit a sans dating game where we are NOT frisk!!! so nice for a change
we go to the ruins, we see our bff flowey. the way that we got to interact with the game was so cool as well! like the choices were presented with dialogue but it was so cool seeing the animations of our actions play out on the screen, like watching our soul dodge the pellets.
i like how we're introduced to sans right away. i was so hype when i saw him (and tbh was super hype throughout the rest of the game anyway). right away i could tell the writing in this game was going to be great bc of the way you wrote sans!!!
and let me tell you- that is not an easy feat. i've seen a lot of ut fan content where sans just... doesn't seem right u know? like it is very, very hard to write his character and get his dialogue right. especially when you're putting HIM into a romantic-centric game??? i'll put more on sans later, but again. right from his introduction, i could already tell you're one of those writers who understand him and will do his justice.
so we go to tori's house and her reading the story to us was very sweet 🥺 her eyes blinked too and i thought that was super cool. u guys put so much thought into all of this- with the sprites and animations and everything it's just.. so awesome.
and then papyrus showed up!! and he was adorable. my dumbass got stuck on the puzzle bc i wasnt paying that much attention but i figured it out eventually 😭 then we got to the crosswords and sans again!! he takes us to grillby and all the interactions he has with the people at the bar... i was like yes thats my man look how popular he is 😎😎
the interactions we have with him- they r little and subtle enough that it helps it all feel so natural. it feels like falling in love with someone who, even though you've never met before, you knew right away that you would love them with all your heart. the little moments r just so tender and sweet.
i think eventually we do meet undyne and alphys, then sans takes us to see his telescope, and then we go to the mtt restaurant to go do his stand up.
bruh. this man. when he was talking about how good he was in bed and LOOKED AT US i literally screamed. i had to walk around my room. THIS MAN.
then we get to the table scene and I WAS LITERALLY SO HYPE so i just straight up told him that i loved him
WHEN HE BLUSHED LET ME TELL U I FCKING DIED SJSJSJJS
but then the game ends and floweys there so im like ah shit. here we go again.
2ND ROUTE
so i played through the 2nd route? (im not sure what its called)
it was obviously different from the first bc uhhh WE GOT A KNIFE. AND NOW THERES A OPTION TO FIGHT??
so this was the part where i figured there'd be a geno route and holy hell that is so fucking cool???? WHAT UNDERTALE SANS DATING VISUAL NOVEL INCORPORATES ALL THE ELEMENTS AND THEMES OF UNDERTALE IN IT???? LIKE WHAT THE FUCK THAT IS SO BADASS!!!
the dream was interesting too. obviously i know that it represents us doing genocide, but was there any other meaning to it? in the dream it was like at first we were scared, then there was a brief moment of clarity where we felt cool, then we felt scared again and there was the smell of blood, floweys laugh, and then we woke up. i wonder why it was in that specific order. hmm...
but right now im like okay im not here to kill anybody, i'm just trying to see whats new and try and get more closer to the characters cause in the last route i didn't really get the chance. the characters all notice that we're bored and it looks like we've done this before which, again, so fucking badass.
the bridge scene was amazing- i loved how sans caught us and how we just layed in the snow and oh my goodddd when i saw that close up i fucking died and went to heaven. omg.
the soul scenes too were amazing. i like how we could pick which ones we thought represented us. i chose bravery. also- the soulmates concepts? that is so fcking cool. honestly it's like so clever and presented so well that it feels canon to the actual game.
this whole route felt a lot more personal than the 1st one. we spend a lot more time with sans and all it feels very deja vu which he comments on a lot. it felt like our bond and connection was already there and that we could feel it both. i loved that. even with the other characters too!!! we got to spend so much more time with them and it felt like we were actually forming bonds- i was falling in love with them all too just in a platonic sense. i guess i was soulmates with them too.
then finally, i got to the table scene, SANS REJECTS ME AGAIN, and im like no what the fuck that cant be it. like surely it cant.
so when we're about to go home, THE FCKING FLOWER SHOWS UP WITH SANS AND HE FCKING KILLS US AND THE GAME CRASHES???? THAT IS SO FUCKING COOL. I WAS LITERALLY IN SHOCK- I KID YOU NOT.
but oh my god. the hopes and dreams scene.
THE HOPES AND DREAMS SCENE. HOLY FUCK. MY HEART. I WAS SCREAMING.
IT WAS SO FCKING COOL. THE WAY OUR SOULS DANCED TOGETHER. MY GOD. THE WAY WE REACHED OUT TO HIM AND CALLED FOR HIM. HOYL FCUCCKKCK SJFBDBJ. oh my god.
and then at the end where there was nothing and he whispered that code to us- THE GAME CLOSES AGAIN. AND IM LIKE WHAT THE FUCK. AND THEN FLOWEY IS THERE.
ah shit. here we go again.
3RD ROUTE
okay for this one- i think i got confused. i think i ended up actually playing the secret ending where you go on a date with papyrus and give him a smooch at the end? i think thats probably bc i told him i wanted to go on a date instead of doing that battle on the bridge lol. but it was still fun! i considered our kiss at the end like a little platonic kiss and i liked how papyrus felt a connection with us. i did too! it wasn't a romantic one, maybe not even platonic, but it was love- just like papyrus said there was a connection we shared and i loved that. it was just love, pure and simple. i really appreciated that too. then flowey shows up again, we chat, and then he makes his little sassy remarks as usual and then i'm back to the main screen. so now im like huh. well this obviously wasn't the true ending. so i probably needed to fall off the bridge again...
TRUE LOVE ROUTE
okay i think this is called the true love route??
but basically to get it, you have to ask papyrus to continue on with the bridge fight instead of going on a date with him, sans will catch you again when you fall, etc and then once you're alone with him at the restaurant you'll get the chance to tell him the code
and of course, it's i'm the ultimate fartlord. or it was smth like that. but yeah. of course it is.
at first, i was laughing so hard bc of it but then i started to panic bc i was like wait. shit. did he really just prank us with that? like was this whole thing a prank to him?
but then no. he takes us to the judgement hall.
and holy fuck. i was SQUEALING. THIS WAS THE BEST FCKING SCENE EVER. OH MY GOD.
when we kissed 😭😭😭😭 when he admitted he wanted to be our soulmates too!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭 WHEN HE STARTED CRYING 😭😭😭😭😭
that whole scene of us just being there, kissing, and him confessing how much he cares about us.. my god. it was so perfect.
i loved the line where it was like we were "daring the resets to tear us apart" BC THEY COULDNT EVEN STOP OUR LOVE FOR EACH OTHER 😭😭😭😭😭
and then maybe the best moment. when he said our name.
up until then, i don't think anybody had said our name in the game. but when i said "ily" and he replied with "take care of yourself ()" I WAS FUCKING DEAD. LIKE LITERALLY. I CRIED. I SCREAMED. I DID EVERYTHING. WHAT THE FUCK.
i admit, i wish he had said i love you back but i think that was his way of saying i love you.
then the credits showed up. that was fucking incredible. it was so cute. i skipped a little bit ahead and then we got the scene where we laid down with him underneath the stars.
AND WHEN HE MADE THE WISH FOR US TO BE SOULMATES AND HE WAS LIKE "OH IT ALREADY CAME TRUE DIDN'T IT???" OH MY GOD 😭😭😭😭
and then there was just us in the cave and the stars. then "the end" showed up instead of flowey and there was a quit option. holy fuck. so many emotions.
for one, holy shit i did it. sans is finally happy and i got the true(at least i think it is) ending.
but everything else. oh my god. sans loves me 😭 i love sans. this reminded me why sans is my favorite character of all time. you've shown me why i'm still so in love with him since 2015 😭😭😭 why i still love this game and these characters. they're home. and this also felt like home too.
this was... fucking amazing. ik i'm probably bugging you with this long-ass review and for that i do sincerely apologize but i felt like writing one this long was the least that i could do for such an amazing game like this. the fact that it was free too?? and so much time and effort and love and care went into it??
it was just. so amazing. i know i'm repetetive but my god. so amazing 😭 i love you and i love sans and i just loved it. i really did. thank you so much. that was fantastic.
Now I guess the only route left would be the Genocide Route??? Which I might try even tho I kind of don't want to spoil our happy ending 😭😭😭 it's like the same thing with Undertale- of course I don't want to ruin our happy life but at the same time I wanna see what will happen... 😔 but anyway, I will most likely write another review about the Genocide route when I do it!!!
Again, so sorry for such a long review. But what you have made was really remarkable and just so amazing and incredible. Thank you so much. I really, truly did enjoy it. Thank you ❤️❤️❤️.
Thank you sooooo much for taking the time to write your thoughts on the VN!! ;n; Please don't apologize for writing a long comment! It always makes me absolutely thrilled to get these kinds of comments! I read every word you wrote and I can't tell you how much I appreciate it!
I'm really glad you loved the illustration I commissioned from my friend, Mmishee! I saw examples of their work and knew right away I wanted them to draw a poster for the game!
And I'm glad you liked the artwork in the intro! That I drew myself! Though I struggled a bit, I really wanted to do all the in-game illustrations and sprites myself! :) And I'm glad you liked all the cool little coding things I put in the game, too!
!!! SPOILERS
I'm so glad that you thought that Sans was written well. I really strived to make him as close to the funny skeleton we all know and love (with a SOULmate twist, of course!) But of course, I had to add a little flirty flair via the MTT Resort comedy routine. ;) And I'm glad you thought I re-created the vibe of Undertale! I really wanted to re-create that feeling of the Underground as best as I could!
It seems that you found the secret route by resetting the second time! And that's a really cute way to interpret that route with Papyrus! I wanted to make sure the other skelebro got some love, too!
I did want to mention, however, after the Hopes and Dreams segment when you load up the game again and Flowey talks about giving you a SAVE file... he actually does do that. It's the SAVE file called "Sans Reservations." And that would've taken you directly to the end of the True Love route and to the part of MTT Resort where you can tell him the secret codeword. :D You eventually found it, you just took a little detour! And there's nothing wrong with that, either! It means you got to spend time with Papyrus more, too!
That scene in the judgment hall was probably the first scene I wrote and the first scene I imagined when I was in the writing process of Dating Start! I wanted it to feel like a release of all the emotions that have been building up to that point. And the "daring the resets to try and tear you apart" was one of my favorite lines to write. :)
Good luck if you to the True LOVE/No Love (Genocide) route! I don't want to say any more about it. You understand, I'm sure. =)
Thank you again for writing your thoughts on the VN and for playing it! I'm glad it warmed your heart with love.
Stay determined,
Cho 💜
!!! SPOILERS (again)
I just realized I never answered your question about the player's dream! There's a reason for the order.
1.) First scare - the fear of getting hurt (emotionally)
2.) Plunging into water, clarity in the snow and rain- pushing past the fear, plunging into love and being comforted by it
3.) Second scare - turning your back on the comfort and love and taking a more violent path
Just like Undertale, I expect most players to experience Dating Start! in that order. Act One (Common Route) --> True Love --> No Love (if they so choose)
So the dream, though only detailing vague images and feelings, will foretell the same. :)
I loved this so much only one thing I wished for.....
Let me take Sans to the surface somehow and free everyone please ;3;
I'm glad you loved the VN! And I wish we could do that too! But I did feel it was just right to end it there. Gives the right amount of longing at the end. <3
And we can always take them all to the surface in our minds. ;n;
Or sequal o3o? hmmm?
Well, I don't want to make promises I can't keep. :)
But I would love to make another Undertale VN someday!
And I would love to play them! Hope you are doing well tho, and take care of yourself!
Thank you so much for playing! I'm glad that you were blushing while playing! It means I crafted the scenes just right! >:3 And it's always fun to see others filling in the crossword for fun LOL Especially because of that one particular word that doesn't necessarily fit properly hahaha
hey! Before I ask you how I can get through the secret ending, I will say that this game made me remember the feelings that I had when I played undertale, thanks again for your work, good luck to you))
Thank you so much for playing! I'm glad it gave you those feelings!
!! SPOILERS
To get to the secret route, you have to reset and play Act Two again. And then you have to say "Go on a date" when the time comes. Then you'll be on the secret route. There's only one "ending."
Thank you for your help, but I just realized that I had already passed it ghm, it's rather strange, but I felt like a villainess when I started freaking with sans brother and it made me very funny feelings -3-
Hey! I just finished your game and really enjoyed it. I loved the way you wrote the characters and all the interactions felt really accurate and genuine to the original props to that.
I really want to access the music room but I needed to reinstall my game after the true LOVE play through. is there a way to find the links in the files?
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thank you so much for playing!! :)
You can't see all the music in the music room unless you play through again and unlock everything. However, there is a playlist that was made online of most of the music in the game! (The only song missing is "Confessions".)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLL-GdLU7W1JybqsjlQWCq_0TAVcLV_CJ9