Okay!! I finished all endings, so it's time to write a comment about it! I'm gonna talk mostly about finale part, since I already talked about how much I love previous arcs in my last comment, sooooo... (also sorry for my bad english ^^;;)
SPOILERS BELOW!!
IT WAS SUCH AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE, A TRUE JOURNEY OF A GAME-- NOT ONLY FINALE, WHOLE GAME AS WELL! IT IS INCREDIBLE, SO WELL WRITTEN, CHARACTERS, THEIR ARCS, THEIR BONDS, PLOT, DRAMA, EVERYTHING!! And finale was like a cherry on top of a delicious cake! Character's arc ending, the Bucks sequence, the tree, the epilogue... But my favorite of them all, the most emotional for me, the one which grasps my heart every time was the field scene.
It was... I don't have the words to describe how much I love it... When I saw the background, the tranquil and empty field, I knew this is gonna be amazing scene. But I didn't know how much,,, seeing all of them as kids and saying their wishes, Saydie guiding them with an understanding smile, but the most,,, scene that even now makes me emotional was Iggy's wish. It-- it was so much in tune with his character arc, and I haven't expected that his wish would be like this. Which is pretty silly of me, because obviously, it's Iggy!! Who else is so focused on making their friends happy? Of course it's him! BUT AT THE SAME TIME--- AT THE SAME TIME HIS WISH WAS SO SINCERE, SO SELFLESS--- LIKE I COULD FEEL HIS LOVE TO HIS FRIENDS-- AAAAAAAA I CAN'T,, I LOVE IT SO MUCH, THIS IS GONNA BE ONE OF THE MOST MEMORABLE SCENES FROM ANY MEDIUM I'VE EVER CONSUMED
Also as I mentioned before I got every ending, right? So everytime I didn't skip it, nah, I reread it over and over, these 4 times and haha, and everytime this scene made me cry :'> I won't get too personal, but the 3rd time I reread it, it made me realize how much I miss being a kid. I'm this kind of person who bottles everything up, but it made me feel like it's okay to miss old times or regret things and to cry for them. This really helped me, I'm feeling much better now, so thank you.
Moreover I made screenshots of other wishes, so I can read all of them. And the "I wish I could see my mom" which I assume was Orlam's made me cry once again ;w; (oh and btw! I love things that make me emotional and I think if something evokes this much emotions in someone it is kinda like a sign of how well written it is, so props for you, Carrot!!)
Okay but now let's go to other stuff I want to talk about! Like character's endings!
I've obtained only Gidget's one on my first try which suprised me. I thought I'll get others too, but it seems like I spent too much time with them in arc 5 haha! Later I just made a couple choices different and got everyone, yay! :> I went in Gidget>Genzou>Orlam>alone order! Which is kinda funny to me since my OC order was the same (tho I got there bad ending first) xD Anyway, I'm gonna talk about them in this order then!
Gidget first!! So... The direction this ending went made me really happy!! I loved how natural it was, with no romance forced! Since Gidget and Iggy went through so much in their relationship and in arc 4 they had... Maybe not forcing romance on each other per se, but forcing themselves to act like... Whatever Gidget's mother would say they should do as a normal couple, I guess? I don't know how to describe it better, but I Hope you know what I mean. So seeing them just talk things over, with no "acting" to please anybody, being vulnerable and sincere with each other was so good!!! AAAA I JUST LOVE HOW MUCH PROGRESS THEY HAVE MADE, IGGY, GIDGET, THEIR RELATIONSHIP SDVADWMAVVXFAFA I saw someone point out that unlike Orlam, Gidget considers their acts in wonderland as their own wrongdoings (I mean: not wonderland-messed-me-up-wrongdoings), because they don't have such a strong identity-- I love this interpretation so much, aaaaaaa-- Also cg where they lie and look at the stars was so cute, I love it <3 ALSO!! Their epilogue!! It was greaaaaat!! I love love love that they, Cecil and Iggy are roommates!! This idea of living with 2 best friends (or maybe even something more?) sounds so lovely to me! And the fact that they stay in contact with Orlam made me so happy!! Also, like I talked before I love that gidgy are just their own thing, not forcing romance or anything. I like to think they are more in qpr than just in typical romantic relationship (or somewhere in between) and it makes my aroace heart so happy <333
Next one Genzou!! GENZOUUUUU WAAAAAAAH-- I picked him as my second ending, because I knew this was gonna be very sweet <33 and was I wrong? Nope, cuz Genzy is always sweet! Even when they make me weep! I love all characters and ships equally, but genzy strikes me as the most possible one?? Just look how they care about each other and feel safe around the other one-- Ooh!! And let me go back to field scene! I found it pretty satysfying, because when I played arc 1 and Genzou wish was "revealed" I thought something like "Maybe he wished to see Iggy or something" anD IT WAS TRUE ALL ALONG!! I made such an assumption, because first game I played made by you was T2A2G, and it was so cool to have it confirmed! Also I'm curious what he was writing/drawing there as a kid... Hmmmmm... But anyway! Iggy telling him he needs to care for himself and try his best for himself , not to sacrifice himself for Iggy's sake was good as well (also, Iggy, look who is talking lol). They just feel so natural when it comes to understanding and caring for each other aaaaa-- And his epilogue was very sweet as well! I love their expressions in it-- Iggy looking like embarrassed, but happy shoujo anime schoolgirl after giving Genzou his "answer", I can't-- And they just living together, chilling on the couch and spending time in Genzou's workshop awwwww... Did I mention they are very sweet?! >83
Okie Dokie, it's time for our lovely rat king Orlam! Well, well, his ending was a very interesting one! I love how his relationship with Iggy differs from gidgly and genzy. They truely are making their own rules, with no need to label themselves. Just two people caring for each other. Also I was very curious how he will act, because his personality seemed to change once again? I thought he was more sarcastic and kinda tired or maybe just reserved there????? Sorry, I don't know how to describe it-- But it was reasonable, this guy didn't feel anything for probably months without his heart and now that it was beating once again in his chest, he was saved, it would be weird if he was still as playful(??) as in previous arcs. Oh or maybe just effect wonderland had over his emotions etc was abolished? Well, with all of it I couldn't wait to see how would he act with only Iggy around! It was so nice to see them dancing with Orlam more "normal"(???? Is this word even compatible with this man?? xDD) and relaxed. Also it was fascinating to see his perspective on his wrongdoings there! Like I said in Gidget's paragraph. It was so refreshing to see a character, maybe regretting what they had done, but saying that they wouldn't do it other way if they could. He knows what he had done was bad, but he would do it anyway, and he still isn't potrayed as a bad guy for that! Oh and also when they fought Bucks and he realized he sounded too harsh when telling Iggy. It's pretty cute that he cares for Iggy's feelings even in a situation like this <3 Also his epilogue seemed the funniest one to me-- Like they were just working on a projects together, helping each other etc so much, that Iggy didn't realize they are in some kind of a relationship LOL Also just seeing Orlam doing great with his career and life is so heartwarming when you know all things he went throught... I truely wish him all the best, he deserves all of his successes and he knows it! <33
And the last, but not least - alone ending! No matter how much I like all endings and even prefer other ones over this one, I feel like this one is the most, uh, "correct" one?? It just focuses on Iggy and I feel like Iggy needs that. To choose himself, to give himself more time and to just keep himself warm. He, alone, but it isn't a bad thing he is alone. It is something he chose himself. And that's good. This epilogue was gsdhbasd so sweet!!! I absolutely love the fact that it showed how he spent time with all of his friends-- not only it was very sweet, also it made me so happy to see him show them he cares more. I remember that when I played arc 1 I wished he tried to act like a better friend to them-- Not to get too into personal territory once again, but this is something that deeply resonates with me. When I was younger (but sometimes still now) I always made up any excuse to not ask my friends if they want to meet, I prefered to just stay in my home and play video games or watch cartoons, and I think I didn't show them I care about them as much as I should. So Iggy change made me (once again lol) emotional <333 ALSO ALSO!!! I love that his life isn't crossed out of any possibilities. He still has his future before him and he can... go... to a pretty particular Christmas party, maybe with a pretty particular person, hehe!
Some thoughts I wanted to say, but didn't:
waaaaah, Genzou seeing Iggy chose Orlam over him was so :(((( I mean it was good that it wasn't swept under the rug, of course he would react some way, but it was sad nonetheless-- I can't help but think that it made him feel more depressed that person who Iggy chose was the one he had tormented so much,, like... To hurt someone Iggy cared so much about? ;; (or maybe it is just me exaggerating drama)
Also!!!! Let me talk about Bucks! HER INTERACTIONS IN FLASHBACKS WITH HUNAR WERE SO CUUUUUUUUUUTE!! I LAUGHED EVERY TIME WHEN SHE YELLED ABOUT TOMATOS IN THE LIBRARY, I LOVED THIS SCENE!! Though it was sad that "the crew" (and later other people too) called her a monster throught all her life that she started to think she really is a one... I can't imagine how did it hurt her when even Hunar called her that,,,, Bucks,, it's so good that in the end she and Hunar could make their dreams come true and had a healthier relationship! The possibility that Saydie may be born someday in a family that wants her is very heartwarming as well! TwT
While replaying barbecue sequence after finishing some endings I noticed that Bucks herself calls Saydie "a little monster" or something of sorts-- Like she is saying "a monster daughter of a monster mother" or just calling her what she hates to be called. I wonder if it was planned all along??
Ooh and I wanted to tell you that I think I found something like a bug in new version?? In arc 4, when Bucks comes to cabin one or two cgs are replaced with black background and Bucks sprite!
And let me come back to endings for a little-- while I absolutely love them I feel like if I didn't talk with Gidget so much and they wouldn't get their conclusion in my run their redemption would be almost not visible?? And I can't make my mind how to think about this, because I feel like Gidget wanted to give Iggy the space, but also if I, as Iggy, avoided them until the end their character arc would be left so opened. They would never apologize and had to live with guilt/shame they couldn't even say sorry,,, I just think it would be heartbreaking :((
...But anyway!
I wanted to mention that I love some cgs in arc 5, I even made the one with Iggy, Genzou and Gidget lying on a grass my phone wallapaper! Overall your artstyle has grown on me so much, I love it!! How expressive, how pretty and how much atmosphere you can show with it! And songs choice, as always, very, very good I'm looking forward to arc 1-5 ost playlist to listen on repeat remembering all of horrible or sweet moments with every track! And can't wait to see what you are going to do in future! Either remaster or anything new - I wish you all the best!! Thank you for making this game, it is one of the best, if not the best stories I've had the pleasure of reading and it shall always live in my heart <3
Firstly, finally got to play through the whole, complete game, and MAN was it worth it! I can see how you grew in all ways, Carrot, as the arcs went on, and just how the characters evolved.
I loved the ending in which Iggy, after letting others dictate his whims, finally takes control, not just from others, but from me, the player. I also love how that gets foreshadowed when given a false choice as to whether to get on the boat. I also like how no, the characters keeping all their future knowledge and experience doesn't magically make everything better. The whole unintentional erection incident which led to Genzou's blinding still happens. Iggy still lashes out at Gidget for winning the coding challenge. But in all cases, they listen to each other. Iggy is WAY more of a true friend this time. Genzou finally learns how to let go of Iggy. Orlam, while it's clear he and Genzou will never get along, finally has friends, real connections. Bucks - oh man, how she busts herself and Hunar out of their wedding. SO in-character for her! Oh, and of COURSE Orlam is a businessman. (I could write up a whole fan-fic short about how Orlam brings in a misbehaving employee treating those under them like pigs for the slaughter and verbally rips them a new one as only Orlam can.)
I also like when Iggy enters...I dunno, the Wishing Tree's inner sanctum? We finally get to see what everyone wished for, what Iggy's first wish was, and while seeing Saydie die along with the Tree was quite sorrowful, given the bizarre, supernatural circumstances, and given how Sadie is effectively being kept in a strange sort of undeath, I'd do the same thing as Iggy. She needed to finally rest in peace.
Now my one big criticism is this: why is the Wishing Tree, a maternal entity as old as mankind itself, if not older, holding the same views as Gidget's mother? The story leading up to the Tree's proper introduction to the characters seemed like it was just sick and tired of its wishers' hypocrisy, among many other vices, to the point of madness (what with wishes being her life-blood), when it lashed out to the characters, she'd point out all the flaws in their wishes. Orlam? You wanna make the rules, but all you're doing is running is running from the rules meant to help you find happiness - not to mention sealing yourself off from all aspects of life, even the good parts. Gidget? Your true self is a man, but you sacrifice it all for your mother's flawed view of the world and a pointless, destructive obsession over a biological man who can never satisfy you the way you OR your mother wants. Genzou? You want to see with Iggy so badly, you're willing to be blinded by his own emptiness to the point of sharing it and its active harming those who truly care for you - like Orlam. Bucks? You want your daughter dead...how do you think you got into Wonderland these last six times (at least)?! Iggy, though? The Wishing Tree's diatribe against him fits perfectly (and is a nice fourth-wall break).
OK, with that out of the way, but before I get into my non-review questions: final verdict? My good carrot, this is a masterpiece. Full stop.
This is worthy of a commercial remake. Get the money and team you need to bring the rest of the arcs up to Arc 5's level, make original backgrounds, music, etc.; hire on voice actors, like asexual Michael Kovak and pansexual Elsie Lovelock (my personal choices for Iggy and Gidget, respectively); and get more semi-animated and animated scenes in.
Okay, for the question and one 'critique' that's so minor it's a nitpick:
Why are the scenes of Orlam's Event Horizon-level flesh-orgy and Sadie's mangled corpse censored even with censorship off? I realize these scenes can easily be EXTREMELY triggering, if not upsetting and/or disturbing, but I feel those who are willing to brave the depravity should be permitted to see the images in all their horrid detail as, in context, they cement, respectively, just how completely uncaring and unhinged Orlam has become without his heart, and just how far the Wishing Tree is willing to go to get her 'perfect' wish.
Also, I don't know if this is just a limitation of Ren'Py or what, but in the scenes with false choices, the player could still be made to think that they can make a decision, but no matter which they select, they get the same scene, complete with options in the background. Just something to enhance those scenes' bait-and-switch.
Thanks for reading, Carrot, and I look forward to your next endeavor!
I know that this is probably really obvious, but I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT TRAIL BOMB IS?????? LIKE, I was so confused man when they first introduced it, now im replaying a still have no idea. help
I love this game so much, I had chills when I first played through it and I couldn't make myself stop. It's amazing and I feel so seen through Iggy. Orlam my beloved <3333
FOR EVERYONE HERE: Where is the fandom? Like, where y'all at? I searched up Our Wonderland and there was literally maybe ten people who had anything related to it, and there were only a couple hundred views for those. WHERE Y'ALL AT?! This game deserves so much more than a couple hundred fans!
Also Orlam is the most beautiful scraggly rat man I've ever seen and I'm in love with him. I ship Iggy with Genzou, obviously, but I keep playing the Orlam ending because I'm just obsessed.
I don't know if there are other places, I only know about the places where I also hang out and post stuff, but from what I can tell, most people are on Tumblr. There's also people on Twitter, though I think it feels like less of a community there?? But that's just my observation not as part of the fandom but as the creator lol. I don't really have a presence outside of those two places though so I can't say if there's anyone anywhere else.
There should be more people in the fandom! This game is so well made! It's not even behind a paywall, so everyone's just sleeping on this opportunity. The characters are developed perfectly, the interactions are both heart-wrenching and hilarious, there's not a single plot hole in the storyline, and so many other things that I can't even put to words.
I will replay the heck outta this game no matter how long it is! I fricking love this game!!!! The writing the characters! I rarely ever make comments but have to right now.
Like that's how good this game is.
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This game is one i'll never forget. It made me cry and feel things. I cannot explain how good- no great this was. At the end where it told us what each of their wishes are and having a wall break where it says that Iggy's actions are being controlled by an out side force which is us the player. What struck even more is how Iggy got to make his own choice in the end. Letting us see the monsters and everything fade from wonderland. Also at first we never saw much of Bucks in the first half of the game and how she was like, she was just a big loud and excitable person at the start. Then when it showed the flashbacks of her and everyone saying she was a monster. Everyone was calling her a monster even her friends but Hunar didn't. He saw something beautiful, but when she said that she wanted their child dead he called her a monster. That hurt the most because the one who never called you a monster finally calling you one put her over the edge. I also love how we got to see Saydie. I love this game and the characters so much! They made me cry so much, and I will stay and happily see what you will do next!
Okay seeing as you seem to be as obsessed with this game as I am, I must ask you. Do you know where the fandom is? Because I looked up Our Wonderland on YouTube and TikTok and there were maybe three creators with only a couple hundred views and I definitely think know this game deserves more than that.
the best game that I'm sure I will never forget. it is emotional, heartwarming and heartbreaking! and its goreee!! when the scary magic tree brings the ugly true human nature out, there must be violence there!
it touches on many topics that are important to me, and which I have rarely seen before. i think i can relate with all of the big 5, especially with iggy
its such a bittersweet feeling, that this is the end of an ERA haha I've finished the game! now i guess i will patiently wait for your next works!!
i really loved the ending, i was in aweee the whole time hahah
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so i went:
genzou - gidget - orlam - .......genzou again (I didn't feel good not ending with him looll, i had to see their happy end again...also their scene was so romantic omg??? i would die)
(also i forgot that neutral exist, i will do this maybe later haha)
I like that when they go back in time, they still make the same mistakes (i mean, most of them, and handle them better) i like to believe that they are all better friends to each other, especially genzou and orlam...their relationship was just so complicated and tragic ahhh i would like to see more of their friendly bickering <3
bucks and hunar took a break to fullfil their dreams??? BEAUTUFIL
im happy that they are happy in the end...lol, and GIDGET WITH CECIL AYEE GO BESTIES GO and ORLAM WORKING WITH JERRY?? OMGGG HHAHA
thank youu so muuuch and congratulations!! i wish you all the best!! <3
This is genuinely by far the BEST thing I've ever played. The writing, The characters, absolutely everything about Our Wonderland is so amazing that I'd sell my kidney, my legs, and half of my brain just to forget everything and play this all over again for the first time ever, I also finished all the other games and I am still so absolutely hooked!
Spoilers?
I sobbed with genuine tears of joy and happiness when Iggy said I love you to Genzou. Their relationship is so wholesome and adorable and I love how accepting and respectful Genzou is to Iggy, though I admit I may like Orlam and Iggy a tiny bit, nothing can top Genzy, ever.
The part where they gazed into each other's eyes?? Hello??? heart melted instantly.
Genzy has a special place in my heart and I will be playing Our Wonderland again from the start just because of them!
I hated Gidget honestly, but in the last arc? they were pretty cool so I guess I don't dislike them that much anymore now! also loved that they met Cecil, The two of them seems like the best friends ever
And Orlam? my thoughts of him are pretty mixed. but I can't lie, Him and Iggy are sort of cute? in a way. (Genzy still and forever will be the best though)
This game is the best ever, and to be honest? now that I've finished it.. I feel like I don't know what to do with my life anymore haha!
PLEASE DO NOT SELL ANY PARTS OF YOUR BODY?????????? THIS IS BAD???????? HELPDLKFJASLDKFJADSF
Weep I am touched by the sheer fervency though... 😭💕 I'm really happy you enjoy the game so much! And all the other games too!! I always feel extra touched if people even go out of their way to play all the side games lkasdfasd
"Genzy has a special place in my heart and I will be playing Our Wonderland again from the start just because of them!" --> YOU'RE REALLY MAKING ME CRY HERE????
I'm so glad you liked the Genzy route ending... I also really liked how their scene turned out. It felt really cathartic and touching for me and I still get a bit weepy thinking about it lakjdfad They really mean so much to me. Maybe it's all my cathartic ace thoughts manifesting in them but they truly just make me feel so soft and warm when I think about them. This makes me doubly weepy if other people also like them 🥺💕 I could write them finding each other in a thousand other universes and still never get tired I think LMAO I just want to create things about them forever maybe.
I'm glad the ending could also help you like Gidget a bit more!! I never blame anyone for any lingering uncomfortable thoughts they might have about them, at least in regards to Iggy. But I'm happy if by the end, even those that may have disliked them can still come to understand them and their struggles.
"Him and Iggy are sort of cute? in a way." --> KDFJADSF I don't know why but this made me laugh... 🤣
"now that I've finished it.. I feel like I don't know what to do with my life anymore haha!" --> YOU AND ME BOTH LOLOLOL
But for real though, thank you so much for all these kind words!! And thank you for loving the game and the chars (and Genzy) and taking the time to write up all your thoughts like this. It really means so much!! And I'm really happy you enjoyed the game and its finale!! 🥰
Not me lowkey getting scared when it said "What do you want, Saydie?" because that's my deadname and I forgot it was the name of Bucks' child so I thought it knew something
lkdjfadkfasd I'm glad to hear your opinion has evolved 🤣 (though I also don't fault anyone who still has reservations about them) They would indeed make a pretty cool friend.
God, this has been such a wonderful game from start to finish. I remember how hooked I got the first time I played the first 3 arcs. The characters feel all so human and distintic, with their own wishes and motivations, with their own flaws and things that pain them.
SPOILERS BELOW!
I loved the final message about how the story isn't a fairytale, so even when they all go back to when they were kids, they still make some of the same mistakes they did before but they react to them better and learn from them!!
Bucks story was really heartbreaking. People might not realize sometimes, but when you say something to a person enough times... they start to believe it themselves. It's so sad that she couldn't be honest with herself and admit she didn't like being called a monster and didn't want the life she had until it was too late. But I'm so glad that she got a second chance with the loop and Hunar and she achieved their dreams before marrying!! (Even if I'll miss Saydie, she's a sweetheart!! but I want to think that she'll appear again since they were considering having a child in the future)
The others' endings were really charming too. I love the fact that Gidget becomes more involved with the LGBTQ+ community and how she even meets Cecil!! Their relationship is super wholesome, they feel like siblings!!
I'm still missing Gidget's ending but of the other two I played I think my favorite is definitely Genzou's. As much as I love Orlam, I think (personally) Iggy's relationship with Gen makes a bit more sense because of all the hints and teasing that were going around for the whole game (plus it just hurts me too much to see Genzou sad dksjgbksjb).
The scenes between Iggy and Genzou were super sweet in Arc 5 and the future they build together warms my heart. I especially loved the part where Iggy mentions that Genzou respects his boundaries even when they're not always the same, 'cause sometimes he may feel like he could do more and sometimes less. It honestly made me so happy to read as an ace person myself!!
Overall, gosh, this game is so freaking fantastic. It will forever be one of my favorite games and I'm so happy to have played it and met the characters and read their story.
Thank you so much for this game, Carrot; and congratulations on the completion of it!! I'm looking forward to more of your stories!!
Ahhhhhh thank you so much for playing, Pri!! It really means so much! And I'm so happy you ended up enjoying the finale! 😭💕
Also that you liked the final message. It was something I was thinking about a lot even throughout production, both as how the ending in my head evolved a bit, but also like, how exactly I would handle everything afterwards (helped a lot by working on OC). But I felt like a big part, or maybe at least one of the themes of this game in general, is that 1) things aren't perfect, that's just not realistic, and even if you get close to all the things you want, it still won't be perfect, and 2) that life in general is oftentimes beyond our control, but we still have to just do what we can. And I thought that by showing that, even with them remembering small bits, they would still go on to make some of the same mistakes or have some of the same things happen is precisely because no matter what you do, you can't control everything. You can try to be as calm, as cool, and as levelheaded a person as you possibly can, but even then you might still snap at someone if you're stressed. You might still get flustered and make a mistake. And the idea behind life isn't to eliminate these mistakes but to figure out how to better respond to them and act after the fact. (Obviously this doesn't like... adhere the same to like, all things, but still.)
At any rate... I'm really happy you liked Genzou's ending (and Orlam's too but lol). "(plus it just hurts me too much to see Genzou sad dksjgbksjb)" --> LKDJFALDSKFA NO REAL SAME. It made parts of working on the finale a bit difficult for me tbh because I kept having to compartmentalize parts of it in my mind because I would feel too sad otherwise 🤣 Maybe because as much as I love all the ships, Genzy will always hold a special place in my heart. And also the fact that I think Genzou hurts the most if Iggy doesn't choose him. And maybe also because I feel like the other two have like real strong supports and relationships with others in their own endings even if they're not chosen -- and Genzou does, too! Like I really wanted to show that him actually not focusing on Iggy and making more friends outside of the group and more general connections is what really helped him to be happier with his life. But at the same time his does feel the most like it's missing an Iggy-shaped piece lakdjfasdf 💦 (maybe that's just my heart talking though LOL)
I'm happy you liked the little ace themes woven into the endings, too sob 💕 I included it in different ways no matter the ending. Whether in the form of Iggy coming to terms with himself or in the way he interacts with others. But I really enjoyed how it ended up taking shape in the Genzou ending. Maybe because thinking about the two of them like, having this really trusting way that they experiment with things, and like, Genzou just being always so kind and patient and understanding and never once judging Iggy for anything, and thinking about that kind of love and support, it just makes me really soft and weepy... 😭💕 It makes me want to actually write about it in more detail and what it could look like and also with some silliness and warmth idk. I don't know if I ever will though.
"It will forever be one of my favorite games and I'm so happy to have played it and met the characters and read their story." --> WEEP this really means so much!! Thank you so much for all of your kindness and support and just wonderful friendship over the years, Pri! And thank you for playing the game and for always being so encouraging about everything! It means the world!! 🥺💕
i have words but uhh. it took me over a week to be able to play the finale and yeahh it do be hitting. i am so very tired. (minor spoilers) i really, really loved how this concluded. i adored the ending i got, the exploration of bucks' character was super interesting and cool, iggy finally making his own choice + the slight meta narrative/fourth wall breaking was so neat. carrot youre so incredibly cool and i love you. thank you for my favorite game. im gonna go scroll through the entirety of the blog now. thank you <3
"carrot youre so incredibly cool and i love you." --> WEEP??????
Ahhhh... I'm getting really teary-eyed!! Thank you for this lovely comment and the kind words! I'm so happy you ended up enjoying the finale and just the game in general!! It means so much hearing that the game means so much to you... 😭💕
So like. Amazing. Literally amazing. What the fuck am I going to do with my life now? /j
SPOILERS FOR THE GAME BELOW
Ok so, before finally playing the last part of Arc 5, I actually replayed through the whole game in order to refresh my memory on everything and I DEFINITELY felt like that was needed. I already had a good idea of everything that occurred throughout the game, but experiencing it all over again was definitely much more different than just remembering. It was probably a bad idea in hindsight because I was playing during a week where standardized testing was happening, but I believe it was all worth it. And it made Arc 5 all the more impactful.
The moment they all enter the cabin, there was already quite a bit to unpack. Iggy and Gidget were faced with a reminder of what happened at the end of Arc 4, there was a weird door they all had to figure out how to open, and Genzou and Orlam were already starting to bicker.
(I liked the brief callback to Jerry :D)
I had expected to see Genzou and Orlam to be somewhat happier to talk with each other, but it makes sense that they were still quite hostile, when you think about the relentless torment that Orlam had to go through, and Genzou’s routine of degrading Orlam that he had fallen so deeply into, which he was reluctant to break. That isn’t something one single apology can just fix, and that’s not even considering all the things in the loops that they had to undergo.
And then… Iggy and Gidget. I can’t imagine the cesspool of emotions both of them probably felt when entering the cabin, especially Gidget. That moment HAD been peaceful at first, until the drug that they infused the drink with kicked in, in order to “fix” Iggy and have the perfect life with him.
I love how much emphasis is put on this moment when Iggy “chose” them. The fact that Iggy described Gidget as so composed and strong at first, only for their barely maintained composure to crumble when they started apologizing for what they did to him. And also, in no way did they ever show the resentment towards him that they harbored for him in previous arcs. It was likely exacerbated by the Wonderland, and they also were preoccupied when apologizing to Iggy at that present moment, but still.
They had changed so much, from when Genzou and Iggy first visited them in the town, to that moment, when they started crying, kneeling in front of Iggy. Their change wasn’t just in physical appearance, but in mindset and demeanor as well. The complete shift from how flippant and carefree they were in the beginning, to the serious and grounded mindset they started to adopt the moment they were released from the shackles of others’ expectations for them. Though, that same carefree demeanor also felt like an attempt to disguise the fact that they were hanging onto their last thread of sanity, so it was probably more like a return to what they used to be. And the vulnerability they had when they expressed their fear of the Wonderland showing their “true self” is heartbreaking. It tied in with their whole theme of "not knowing themself", which is most evidently relevant to their gender identity, but also to other aspects of themself and whatnot.
Even with all this in mind, Iggy chose to trust them, and believe in the person that they have transformed into, rather than the person driven insane by the delusions of a fantasy world that had tortured him so much. I feel like that aspect of their relationship is what led me to enjoy seeing it play out so much. Them falling asleep outside instead of going back inside is so dorky too.
And SPEAKING of Genzou… there was a lot of content for his scene that made me think “damn, this one is definitely the most romantic out of all of them”. Like, they kiss once, then another time, and then they have a CG in the cabin where they’re lovingly gazing into each other’s eyes. Funnily enough, I was thinking about Orlam being awake and just watching them (especially considering that’s the very thing he does the morning after) when that moment happened. As for Gidget, I assume they were still outside, but it’s kinda funny to imagine them walking in and being like “…oh" and then needing to deal with that in the morning.
It does actually make sense that Iggy and Genzou have the strongest relationship, at least in terms of romance, because he’s the only one that hadn’t really traumatized him in any way, so there’s not much room for animosity in their relationship. And the fact that his arc was centered around the comfort that he gives Iggy and how much he cared for him makes it even easier for Iggy to love him without any reservations.
Either way, it’s so sweet to see how their scene plays out. It first starts off with Iggy caring for Genzou’s severed finger, and then delving into Genzou’s deep-rooted issues of self-hatred and his hypocrisy. I really love the part where Iggy proclaims that he loves Genzou when Genzou asks why he cares so much and then they have the kiss and then the dorky moment when Genzou is pulling his beanie over his head and AAAAAAAAAAAAA
This scene with Genzou feels EXTREMELY relevant to how they both were in the beginning of Arc 5, where Iggy takes it upon himself to care for Genzou when he’s not in the right mind to care for himself, where in the past, Genzou had been the one doing that. Notably, there’s also the juxtaposition of how they’re feeling extremely conflicting emotions about each other when Iggy visits Genzou’s house in the beginning, to how SURE they are of their feelings right before they confront Bucks. Iggy’s comment about the world being too cruel to let them sleep peacefully together reminds me of Arc 2, where they have the moment in the castle where Iggy opens up to him and they kiss, only for that happy moment to be taken away from them so quickly when Iggy was brought to be electrocuted and Genzou was later axed by Bucks at the cliff.
As for Orlam, it’s a bit sad that my opinion of him hasn’t changed much from my perspective in previous comments I’ve made. I guess it’s because of the fact that we didn't really see much of him until the latter half of Arc 5, and his segment primarily consisted of him expressing his hatred for the others and how much he suffered, right until the very end. It’s like, I understand his story and shit, and there are some parts of it I feel I can relate with, but he just doesn’t resonate with me as much as Gidget and Genzou does.
With that out of the way, I still think his dynamic with Iggy is intriguing, though. Their relationship isn’t plainly defined as “romantic”, because there’s more to it than that, but they also don’t try to conform to the expectations of others (hence the theme of “making one’s own rules”). Even so, there’s still a clear connection that they have with each other, even with the ways that they largely differ.
He definitely opens up more when Iggy chooses him, too. There’s no doubt that he certainly likes to fluster Iggy, but there’s also a sense of caring that he has for Iggy too. His morals are interesting also, with how he confirms that he had some semblance of regret for what he did, but still wouldn’t change what he did: rather, if it ended, then he would simply “let it end”. Interestingly enough, this idea also seems to be relevant to his lack of reactions compared to Gidget and Genzou when Iggy is put in some kind of danger (even when he’s the one that’s “chosen”).
I think it’s because in some way, he’s accepting the possibility of Iggy dying. Not because he doesn’t care for him, but because that’s something that can happen, and there’s no changing it if it does. One also has to consider that this timeline takes place where Iggy was one of the multiple people in the friend group that let him be bullied relentlessly (even when he had good moments with Orlam), and the fact that he was the target of Genzou’s affections. Genzou, the one who Orlam had a big fat crush on. So it would make sense if there was still some built up resentment that led him to not care as much for Iggy. I could be misconstruing his actions entirely, but who knows lol.
And then if Iggy chooses no one, I think I like the way he approached the events that happen from that point onward. Sure, you lose out on specific interactions that pertain to specific characters, but it also feels like his actions were consistent with his motives. He tried to take it into his own hands to do things on his own and took the initiative, first helping Genzou and going off on his own to confront Gidget. He didn’t go unscathed while doing it, evidently (considering he sustained injuries basically every other second), but his efforts still showed nonetheless.
He grit his teeth through the tough moments, and tried to rely on his own strength to do everything that he can feasibly do himself (at least if he chooses no one to help him). In all honesty, it’s kinda funny thinking about how he has the whole spiel about needing someone else’s warmth because he’ll die without it, only for him to be like “…actually, I can use my own warmth”.
Ok so um. Finally moving onto the more important events of Arc 5, the battle with Bucks was... certainly not what I was expecting. She manifested as a LITERAL monster when they first encounter her, which then becomes so sad to think about after the flashbacks and cutscene of Iggy as Hunar telling her she’s not a monster. With this continuous perception of her being some sort of monster, she just started to roll with it entirely, with Hunar being the only one that diverged from this point of view. At least, up until their relationship started going downhill (it was so sad seeing her sob after Hunar called her a monster T_T). The Wonderland also warping her into becoming the cold-blooded killer that the group was faced with at the end of their respective arcs didn’t help to relieve that perception of her either, and probably even exacerbated it considering they had to see her like that multiple times.
Going back to before that, it’s interesting that Iggy tried to use the Saydie doll to get Bucks’s attention first instead of the axe charm, when Saydie was basically the primary cause of Bucks’s suffering, whether she wanted her to be or not. Though Iggy does come to this realization when he actually grabs the axe charm. It’s pretty funny how it plays out cause the screen is all red and shaky from having his fingers literally being CUT OFF and then everything suddenly comes to a stop, and he's like “ah. of course.”
And when they finally get to the tree. I fucking had CHILLS when the heartbeat scene happened. Initially, the silhouette of the tree getting closer and closer made me anxious that there was gonna be a jumpscare or something, but then the reveal that Saydie was being kept alive by the tree was horrifying. Like, she was alive, but as a “writhing mass” (as Orlam had described her), and the visceral descriptions that were given, accompanied by the music that played… like jfc. It makes sense that she kept telling Iggy to kill her cause I don’t think ANYONE wants to live like that.
Tbh, I actually didn’t think about the tree itself being the main antagonistic force, but that should’ve been obvious in hindsight to me. It’s so… innocently described in the story given in the very beginning of Arc 5, and then it felt so... malicious once they finally met it in the end. Though, that could be because it was affected by the Wonderland’s tendencies, considering how fucked up the world all was.
After that would be the scene with Saydie where she takes Iggy to hear about all of the others’ wishes, and then Iggy’s own wish. Through Iggy’s own power, when he simultaneously grants Saydie’s wish and destroys the tree, it’s very gratifying to watch. At the same time though, I’m confused about the true importance of Iggy’s wish. He wished that “he could make his friends this happy forever”, but… what happened, exactly? Under the assumption that this wish disappeared just like the others, does it mean that the loop was broken? I guess it would be because this happiness was derived from being in the Wonderland, and if that lasted forever, then so would the Wonderland. There was clarification about this in another comment, but I'm not exactly sure if I have the correct impression.
On that note, the fact that everyone got a chance to redo the past (albeit with certain events staying the same) is quite the unexpected ending. I had thought they would be forced to confront the world as they were, with their present injuries and trauma and all that shit. Don’t get me wrong though, it was not bad by any means. I very much liked seeing the new resolutions of the events that went down, and also how everyone lived their lives anew. It probably just took me surprise, like it did with many others. I think I liked the Genzou variant the most (which is probably no surprise, considering my previous comments about him).
There’s honestly so much more I could call attention to, like the callbacks dispersed throughout the game to moments that previously happened, the various cutscenes in the latter half of the game that are so fucking heartwrenching (i.e. Genzou’s apology to Orlam), the endcards, and the very fitting OSTs, but that’d drag it out way longer. So I will leave it at that, and tell you that this was truly a fantastic game. I’m very happy to have discovered this game when it was still in the works and it feels so great to see it be finished. I also enjoyed your responses to my comments very much and I will miss them a lot. IDFK how I made another comment this long just by analyzing the second part of Arc 5, but I guess I just REALLY really liked this game. So as a concluding statement, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING OUR WONDERLAND!!!!
"What the fuck am I going to do with my life now?" --> THIS IS THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR MYSELF AS WELL........ 💦
Sob, at any rate... I'm going to cry from this comment. I'm not only overjoyed you ended up enjoying the last part, but that you'd take so much time??? To write so much??? My heart...🥺💕
You played through the whole game again beforehand ahhhHHHHHH. Somehow this is so touching to me... 😭 I can imagine it could definitely be helpful especially if you haven't played it in a while. Also there's definitely a decent number of times in the finale where I reference past parts of the game. Sometimes even just little small lines, etc. It's obviously not necessary to notice all of these, but it could definitely help if some of them are more fresh in your mind going into Arc 5... (it is a very long game after all and has been in production for a long time lakdjfas) I'm glad that doing so could make the finale feel like it has even more impact!
"That isn’t something one single apology can just fix, and that’s not even considering all the things in the loops that they had to undergo." --> Indeed... I did kinda think about how to approach them for a little bit before diving right into the writing for the finale. In my mind, it would have just felt weird and out of place for them to suddenly be all hunky-dory with each other, not only because it's so fresh, but also because with all the stress and uncertainty of what's to come, they would likely resort back to their typical coping mechanisms LOL That and I kinda see these two as just... well, it's them. Like. Even in the best timelines they'll still be bickering away. But that's moreso because of their personalities and views. Like how even in OC where none of the "worst" things that happened in OW happened in that timeline, they still bicker constantly LOL They just get on each other's nerves and always will. But at least their bickering has less hate behind it and is no longer one-sided.
Hearing you talk about Gidget's part is making me very weepy. I'm glad you like how their route played out. I know it will always probably be the most decisive of all the options, just because of everything that happened, so I really tried to approach it carefully. But I also don't blame anyone who doesn't want to play their route or just doesn't prefer it as much. So hearing that you did still enjoy it and the direction that Gidget's character took is very touching to me 💕
"Funnily enough, I was thinking about Orlam being awake and just watching them" --> LKDJFALSKDF THIS MADE ME LAUGH LOL.
I also feel like Genzou's scene and route in general is the most romantic. Probably because I feel like that's just more the dynamic he and Iggy have. Like of the three possibilities, even though all three of them can settle in and care for each other and have a life together, Genzou and Iggy are the only one where I would say "yes these two are in love with each other," so I think that comes out a lot in how I ended up doing their scene. Plus they had more build-up, I think, that led in that direction. I'm really happy you liked their scene in general WEEP. It may be the one that affects me the most on an emotional level, I'll admit... I just think they're so precious... sigh...
"Notably, there’s also the juxtaposition of how they’re feeling extremely conflicting emotions about each other when Iggy visits Genzou’s house in the beginning, to how SURE they are of their feelings right before they confront Bucks." --> I'M GONNA WEEP
Lol your comments about Orlam... I am indeed always curious how people will react to not only Orlam himself but the Orly dynamic. And I freely admit he's not everyone's cup of tea in general 🤣 I'm touched you still played his route though in spite of not liking him as much! I'm mostly quite fascinated by their dynamic and think it's really fun to explore, even if it wouldn't really be described as romantic. I enjoy what they bring out in each other and how neither one really cares about what the other is doing. I think that also plays into a lot of how they act in the rest of the finale if you take their route. That and Orlam's personality in general. Like he's just not the type of person to show outward distress/fear at someone else's predicament the way the others are, so even in his route, it felt weird for him to ever shout at Iggy in a fearful way. And yeah, you said some really interesting things about him being more accepting of their fate either way than the others are, which I think is also true.
It's really lovely hearing all your thoughts about Bucks's scene and the tree and Saydie.
"He wished that “he could make his friends this happy forever”, but… what happened, exactly? Under the assumption that this wish disappeared just like the others, does it mean that the loop was broken?" --> kdjaldfa this is one of those things where I like to leave some of it rather vague and up to interpretation, which is part of why I went with cutscenes here, as they were a great way to kinda just... show things without necessitating a thorough detailed explanation. I really like letting players/readers come up with their own thoughts about a lot of the things that happen (unless it's something that's like... crucial for the story ofc). I'll say though that yeah, Iggy's childhood wish kinda influenced... everything... after he made it. Like even in his head entering this mindset of focusing on others over himself, which usually just backfired because he was too young to handle a lot of the conflicts and emotions. But also keeping everyone close by even if they would have been better leaving. Keeping everyone with this connection to himself they can't escape from. To then leading to the literal loop where he couldn't die because that went against the wish so restarting again and again, each time focusing on someone else, but it never works, because he can't make everyone happy ofc. And so him destroying the wish destroyed his life in a way, because his life itself had become the result of his wish. And so all the loops and everything after his original wish was destroyed. That's kinda how I see it, but I'm also fine if people come up with other interpretations and theories for that part, too.
"So I will leave it at that, and tell you that this was truly a fantastic game. I’m very happy to have discovered this game when it was still in the works and it feels so great to see it be finished." --> Ahhhhhhh... 💕😭 That really means so lot! And I've always enjoyed reading your comments so much!!! It makes me so happy when people enjoy the chars and story enough to want to dissect it and figure things out and look for connections, etc. So reading those kinds of comments truly means the world.
I'm ecstatic you ended up enjoying the finale so much! And the game as a whole! I can't really believe it's over now. And it's all been hitting me pretty hard. But hearing from people that have enjoyed it and the journey it's taken has really helped so much. Thank you for all the kind words and all of the support and love you've given to the game!! 💕
After finishing the game, I immediately created this account for the sole purpose of writing this comment. Our Wonderland has been a journey–I wasn’t here at the beginning of the game, I actually played it first when Arc 5 part 1 came out. Nonetheless, It’s been amazing seeing the story and character development. Even as I write this, I can’t believe it’s over. Iggy, Genzou, Gidget, Orlam, Hunar, and Buxley.. They’ll always be in my heart. The world of “Our Wonderland” is so much more than a game. It’s everything!!
Anyways, I’m not the best with words, but I need to say THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CREATING OUR WONDERLAND!!!!!!! IT’S THE MOST BEAUTIFUL, AMAZING PIECE OF MEDIA EVER CREATED AND I’M GOING TO SCREAM THAT FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE!! Everything from the music choice, placement, sprites, colours, EVERYTHING was perfect. And the writing. I LOVED THE WRITING SO MUCH RAHHHHH
Don’t get me started on the characters either. I love everyone of them and I feel so close with them. Iggy especially though, he’s so relatable and I really connected with his struggles at times. The pressure to perform is so hard, and life can feel meaningless sometimes. But I love the message of the game, which I think is to find your own happiness. The character development is amazing, and there are so many connections and references throughout the game!!
I’ve recommended this to everyone I know (whether they actually played it or not has remained a mystery) but I think that more people need to seriously know about this!!! Our Wonderland is a beautiful, heartwarming and tearjerking game (literally i cried multiple times) which is severely underrated. I wish that I could tell you every other thought that i’ve had about this game or write several essays like the other commenters, but like i said earlier I’m not too good with words. Still, I hope my message reaches you (in case it didn’t, the message is that you created the best game in the world and i love it so so so much my heart might burst).
I won’t yap for much longer: Carrot Patch Games, you deserve an award or several of them or really a trophy for creating the best game EVER. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING :) <3
"The world of “Our Wonderland” is so much more than a game. It’s everything!!" --> Sob this is so incredibly sweet... I'm really happy the game and its chars could have such an impact on you and resonate with you so much!! I ALSO CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S OVER. I think it's part of why I've been just kinda numb since the launch.
Ahhhh your words are so kind and sweet and really making me weepy. It really means so much so hearing that! Thank you for the kind words!
"Iggy especially though, he’s so relatable and I really connected with his struggles at times." --> HHHHHH I'M REALLY GLAD. Hearing that people can relate to Iggy really makes me wanna cry as there's so much of myself in him. I'm really touched!! 😭💕
"but like i said earlier I’m not too good with words" --> YOUR WORDS ARE VERY KIND AND I APPRECIATE THEM VERY MUCH!!! 💕
Ahhhhh truly thank you! This was such a wonderful and kind comment and I'm really honored that you enjoyed the game so much!! Reading this really brightened my day!! 🥰
I needed some time to collect my thoughts after finishing the finale and all endings. The ending threw me for a loop (a time loop...lol). I'll get more into Ending Spoilers later, but I want to say some non-spoilery stuff about the game as a whole first.
This is such an awesome gore game. There is nothing else like Our Wonderland. The level of nonsense this game is on is unmatched. I am a big fan of hyper-gore and guro-type games, on some level because its such a strange and loud way to tell a story that it always makes me interested. There's also a sense of humor and catharsis in the absurdity of all that violence. Our Wonderland makes use of these ideas so well. These characters are dysfunctional, they never learned how to be close to someone without ripping their skin off, and its sad, and its funny, and it's hitting on a personal level. I have also never played another game that depicts asexuality in such a visceral way. OW rockz 5ever.
Spoilers time~
Okay, so that ending! The more I thought about the characters, the more I liked it and a sense of acceptance washed over me. They were always in that never-ending life, even before I came in and started playing with them, and so of course they return once again. It reminded me of the Nietzsche quote I sent you on tumblr a while ago. (I couldn't find the tumblr post, so I'm just linking to the quote itself.)
The scene with Saydie guiding Iggy to find all his friends was really emotional for me. All the characters saying their adult wishes, but looking like children, and realizing their wishes sound so much like the wishes of children. Sometimes I feel like I carry every age I've ever been with me, so I'm more experienced at being 9 than I am at being 26. This scene reminded me of that feeling. It was really well-done.
Other thoughts: I am still reeling from my ship being canon!? Gidget/Cecil/Orlam canon, arguably in every universe except for the Orly ending! I am screaming!! I am sooooo happy for them. Oh my GOD.
I also really loved the Orly ending, too! For me, that one was the sweetest. They keep coming back to each other. Everything about them together. Discordant harmony in B, please. <3
Our Wonderland is so good. Congrats on finishing this giant game! I'm so happy I got to play it, and now it will be played over and over again by players new and old! :3
"The level of nonsense this game is on is unmatched." --> HELP DJLAKSDFJAD
It's so interesting to me in general... I feel like I went into this game wanting to make something horrific and intense but with some underlying feels, but by the end, I feel like I'd transitioned away from wanting to make something horrific and became much more focused on the characters and their stories and wanting to make something that could resonate and move people rather than be horrific for horrific's sake. And maybe that's partly why I've been nervous with the direction of the game and especially the finale. Since I do feel like the game has changed over time. So it probably feels different to those who have been following it the whole time. Not that there were a lot of people back then but still lol. Maybe it's a part of me just growing as a dev and realizing what the stories are that I really want to tell. Unsure.
But I digress.
"These characters are dysfunctional, they never learned how to be close to someone without ripping their skin off, and its sad, and its funny, and it's hitting on a personal level. " --> This is such a great line and a great summary of the characters in general ldkjfasfd
I'm glad you were able to accept the ending even if it sounds like you probably didn't like it at first LOL 🤣 I'm noticing that this seems to be a bit of a trend for people that have played it perhaps. I knew that the ending would probably cause some conflicts and that not everyone would like it. But I'm glad at least if people are able to accept it as the end even if it might not be exactly what they wanted 💦 Even before I started working on Arc 5, I knew I wasn't going to be able to please everyone. Not only with everything that happens throughout Arc 5 but also with the final ending. In the end, as a creator, though, you just need to go with what feels right and stick with it hahaha.
"Sometimes I feel like I carry every age I've ever been with me, so I'm more experienced at being 9 than I am at being 26." --> God I resonate with this so much 💦 Also for the sheer fact that it seems like no matter how old I get, I always feel behind. That I'm even more lost than I was in the past, where my brain thought it knew what it was doing even if it didn't.
LDKJFALDSKFA I'M GLAD YOU LIKED THE GIDGET/CECIL/ORLAM. They are just such a fun little interesting group to me and I want them to find happiness in each other in whatever ways they want to and move past the people that have caused them harm. The little Orlam bits in Gidget's epilogue weren't planned at all, they just kinda snuck in there as I was working on them because it felt right and a bit cheeky. Also that you liked the Orly ending. They are indeed so sweet to me... something about their dynamic just makes me smile. I like that they just do their own thing with zero expectations for each other but still have each other as a sort of anchor.
Thank you so much for the kind words and for taking the time to leave you thoughts!! Sob it really means a lot. And I'm really happy you ended up enjoying the finale and the game as a whole. It took such a big chunk of me to make. And a big chunk of my life in general. So I'm just really happy if people can come away with it feeling like it was worth their time perhaps dkjafd 🤣💦
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Okay!! I finished all endings, so it's time to write a comment about it! I'm gonna talk mostly about finale part, since I already talked about how much I love previous arcs in my last comment, sooooo... (also sorry for my bad english ^^;;)
SPOILERS BELOW!!
IT WAS SUCH AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE, A TRUE JOURNEY OF A GAME-- NOT ONLY FINALE, WHOLE GAME AS WELL! IT IS INCREDIBLE, SO WELL WRITTEN, CHARACTERS, THEIR ARCS, THEIR BONDS, PLOT, DRAMA, EVERYTHING!! And finale was like a cherry on top of a delicious cake! Character's arc ending, the Bucks sequence, the tree, the epilogue... But my favorite of them all, the most emotional for me, the one which grasps my heart every time was the field scene.
It was... I don't have the words to describe how much I love it... When I saw the background, the tranquil and empty field, I knew this is gonna be amazing scene. But I didn't know how much,,, seeing all of them as kids and saying their wishes, Saydie guiding them with an understanding smile, but the most,,, scene that even now makes me emotional was Iggy's wish. It-- it was so much in tune with his character arc, and I haven't expected that his wish would be like this. Which is pretty silly of me, because obviously, it's Iggy!! Who else is so focused on making their friends happy? Of course it's him! BUT AT THE SAME TIME--- AT THE SAME TIME HIS WISH WAS SO SINCERE, SO SELFLESS--- LIKE I COULD FEEL HIS LOVE TO HIS FRIENDS-- AAAAAAAA I CAN'T,, I LOVE IT SO MUCH, THIS IS GONNA BE ONE OF THE MOST MEMORABLE SCENES FROM ANY MEDIUM I'VE EVER CONSUMED
Also as I mentioned before I got every ending, right? So everytime I didn't skip it, nah, I reread it over and over, these 4 times and haha, and everytime this scene made me cry :'> I won't get too personal, but the 3rd time I reread it, it made me realize how much I miss being a kid. I'm this kind of person who bottles everything up, but it made me feel like it's okay to miss old times or regret things and to cry for them. This really helped me, I'm feeling much better now, so thank you.
Moreover I made screenshots of other wishes, so I can read all of them. And the "I wish I could see my mom" which I assume was Orlam's made me cry once again ;w; (oh and btw! I love things that make me emotional and I think if something evokes this much emotions in someone it is kinda like a sign of how well written it is, so props for you, Carrot!!)
Okay but now let's go to other stuff I want to talk about! Like character's endings!
I've obtained only Gidget's one on my first try which suprised me. I thought I'll get others too, but it seems like I spent too much time with them in arc 5 haha! Later I just made a couple choices different and got everyone, yay! :> I went in Gidget>Genzou>Orlam>alone order! Which is kinda funny to me since my OC order was the same (tho I got there bad ending first) xD Anyway, I'm gonna talk about them in this order then!
Gidget first!! So... The direction this ending went made me really happy!! I loved how natural it was, with no romance forced! Since Gidget and Iggy went through so much in their relationship and in arc 4 they had... Maybe not forcing romance on each other per se, but forcing themselves to act like... Whatever Gidget's mother would say they should do as a normal couple, I guess? I don't know how to describe it better, but I Hope you know what I mean. So seeing them just talk things over, with no "acting" to please anybody, being vulnerable and sincere with each other was so good!!! AAAA I JUST LOVE HOW MUCH PROGRESS THEY HAVE MADE, IGGY, GIDGET, THEIR RELATIONSHIP SDVADWMAVVXFAFA I saw someone point out that unlike Orlam, Gidget considers their acts in wonderland as their own wrongdoings (I mean: not wonderland-messed-me-up-wrongdoings), because they don't have such a strong identity-- I love this interpretation so much, aaaaaaa-- Also cg where they lie and look at the stars was so cute, I love it <3 ALSO!! Their epilogue!! It was greaaaaat!! I love love love that they, Cecil and Iggy are roommates!! This idea of living with 2 best friends (or maybe even something more?) sounds so lovely to me! And the fact that they stay in contact with Orlam made me so happy!! Also, like I talked before I love that gidgy are just their own thing, not forcing romance or anything. I like to think they are more in qpr than just in typical romantic relationship (or somewhere in between) and it makes my aroace heart so happy <333
Next one Genzou!! GENZOUUUUU WAAAAAAAH-- I picked him as my second ending, because I knew this was gonna be very sweet <33 and was I wrong? Nope, cuz Genzy is always sweet! Even when they make me weep! I love all characters and ships equally, but genzy strikes me as the most possible one?? Just look how they care about each other and feel safe around the other one-- Ooh!! And let me go back to field scene! I found it pretty satysfying, because when I played arc 1 and Genzou wish was "revealed" I thought something like "Maybe he wished to see Iggy or something" anD IT WAS TRUE ALL ALONG!! I made such an assumption, because first game I played made by you was T2A2G, and it was so cool to have it confirmed! Also I'm curious what he was writing/drawing there as a kid... Hmmmmm... But anyway! Iggy telling him he needs to care for himself and try his best for himself , not to sacrifice himself for Iggy's sake was good as well (also, Iggy, look who is talking lol). They just feel so natural when it comes to understanding and caring for each other aaaaa-- And his epilogue was very sweet as well! I love their expressions in it-- Iggy looking like embarrassed, but happy shoujo anime schoolgirl after giving Genzou his "answer", I can't-- And they just living together, chilling on the couch and spending time in Genzou's workshop awwwww... Did I mention they are very sweet?! >83
Okie Dokie, it's time for our lovely rat king Orlam! Well, well, his ending was a very interesting one! I love how his relationship with Iggy differs from gidgly and genzy. They truely are making their own rules, with no need to label themselves. Just two people caring for each other. Also I was very curious how he will act, because his personality seemed to change once again? I thought he was more sarcastic and kinda tired or maybe just reserved there????? Sorry, I don't know how to describe it-- But it was reasonable, this guy didn't feel anything for probably months without his heart and now that it was beating once again in his chest, he was saved, it would be weird if he was still as playful(??) as in previous arcs. Oh or maybe just effect wonderland had over his emotions etc was abolished? Well, with all of it I couldn't wait to see how would he act with only Iggy around! It was so nice to see them dancing with Orlam more "normal"(???? Is this word even compatible with this man?? xDD) and relaxed. Also it was fascinating to see his perspective on his wrongdoings there! Like I said in Gidget's paragraph. It was so refreshing to see a character, maybe regretting what they had done, but saying that they wouldn't do it other way if they could. He knows what he had done was bad, but he would do it anyway, and he still isn't potrayed as a bad guy for that! Oh and also when they fought Bucks and he realized he sounded too harsh when telling Iggy. It's pretty cute that he cares for Iggy's feelings even in a situation like this <3 Also his epilogue seemed the funniest one to me-- Like they were just working on a projects together, helping each other etc so much, that Iggy didn't realize they are in some kind of a relationship LOL Also just seeing Orlam doing great with his career and life is so heartwarming when you know all things he went throught... I truely wish him all the best, he deserves all of his successes and he knows it! <33
And the last, but not least - alone ending! No matter how much I like all endings and even prefer other ones over this one, I feel like this one is the most, uh, "correct" one?? It just focuses on Iggy and I feel like Iggy needs that. To choose himself, to give himself more time and to just keep himself warm. He, alone, but it isn't a bad thing he is alone. It is something he chose himself. And that's good. This epilogue was gsdhbasd so sweet!!! I absolutely love the fact that it showed how he spent time with all of his friends-- not only it was very sweet, also it made me so happy to see him show them he cares more. I remember that when I played arc 1 I wished he tried to act like a better friend to them-- Not to get too into personal territory once again, but this is something that deeply resonates with me. When I was younger (but sometimes still now) I always made up any excuse to not ask my friends if they want to meet, I prefered to just stay in my home and play video games or watch cartoons, and I think I didn't show them I care about them as much as I should. So Iggy change made me (once again lol) emotional <333 ALSO ALSO!!! I love that his life isn't crossed out of any possibilities. He still has his future before him and he can... go... to a pretty particular Christmas party, maybe with a pretty particular person, hehe!
Some thoughts I wanted to say, but didn't:
waaaaah, Genzou seeing Iggy chose Orlam over him was so :(((( I mean it was good that it wasn't swept under the rug, of course he would react some way, but it was sad nonetheless-- I can't help but think that it made him feel more depressed that person who Iggy chose was the one he had tormented so much,, like... To hurt someone Iggy cared so much about? ;; (or maybe it is just me exaggerating drama)
Also!!!! Let me talk about Bucks! HER INTERACTIONS IN FLASHBACKS WITH HUNAR WERE SO CUUUUUUUUUUTE!! I LAUGHED EVERY TIME WHEN SHE YELLED ABOUT TOMATOS IN THE LIBRARY, I LOVED THIS SCENE!! Though it was sad that "the crew" (and later other people too) called her a monster throught all her life that she started to think she really is a one... I can't imagine how did it hurt her when even Hunar called her that,,,, Bucks,, it's so good that in the end she and Hunar could make their dreams come true and had a healthier relationship! The possibility that Saydie may be born someday in a family that wants her is very heartwarming as well! TwT
While replaying barbecue sequence after finishing some endings I noticed that Bucks herself calls Saydie "a little monster" or something of sorts-- Like she is saying "a monster daughter of a monster mother" or just calling her what she hates to be called. I wonder if it was planned all along??
Ooh and I wanted to tell you that I think I found something like a bug in new version?? In arc 4, when Bucks comes to cabin one or two cgs are replaced with black background and Bucks sprite!
And let me come back to endings for a little-- while I absolutely love them I feel like if I didn't talk with Gidget so much and they wouldn't get their conclusion in my run their redemption would be almost not visible?? And I can't make my mind how to think about this, because I feel like Gidget wanted to give Iggy the space, but also if I, as Iggy, avoided them until the end their character arc would be left so opened. They would never apologize and had to live with guilt/shame they couldn't even say sorry,,, I just think it would be heartbreaking :((
...But anyway!
I wanted to mention that I love some cgs in arc 5, I even made the one with Iggy, Genzou and Gidget lying on a grass my phone wallapaper! Overall your artstyle has grown on me so much, I love it!! How expressive, how pretty and how much atmosphere you can show with it! And songs choice, as always, very, very good I'm looking forward to arc 1-5 ost playlist to listen on repeat remembering all of horrible or sweet moments with every track! And can't wait to see what you are going to do in future! Either remaster or anything new - I wish you all the best!! Thank you for making this game, it is one of the best, if not the best stories I've had the pleasure of reading and it shall always live in my heart <3
Firstly, finally got to play through the whole, complete game, and MAN was it worth it! I can see how you grew in all ways, Carrot, as the arcs went on, and just how the characters evolved.
I loved the ending in which Iggy, after letting others dictate his whims, finally takes control, not just from others, but from me, the player. I also love how that gets foreshadowed when given a false choice as to whether to get on the boat. I also like how no, the characters keeping all their future knowledge and experience doesn't magically make everything better. The whole unintentional erection incident which led to Genzou's blinding still happens. Iggy still lashes out at Gidget for winning the coding challenge. But in all cases, they listen to each other. Iggy is WAY more of a true friend this time. Genzou finally learns how to let go of Iggy. Orlam, while it's clear he and Genzou will never get along, finally has friends, real connections. Bucks - oh man, how she busts herself and Hunar out of their wedding. SO in-character for her! Oh, and of COURSE Orlam is a businessman. (I could write up a whole fan-fic short about how Orlam brings in a misbehaving employee treating those under them like pigs for the slaughter and verbally rips them a new one as only Orlam can.)
I also like when Iggy enters...I dunno, the Wishing Tree's inner sanctum? We finally get to see what everyone wished for, what Iggy's first wish was, and while seeing Saydie die along with the Tree was quite sorrowful, given the bizarre, supernatural circumstances, and given how Sadie is effectively being kept in a strange sort of undeath, I'd do the same thing as Iggy. She needed to finally rest in peace.
Now my one big criticism is this: why is the Wishing Tree, a maternal entity as old as mankind itself, if not older, holding the same views as Gidget's mother? The story leading up to the Tree's proper introduction to the characters seemed like it was just sick and tired of its wishers' hypocrisy, among many other vices, to the point of madness (what with wishes being her life-blood), when it lashed out to the characters, she'd point out all the flaws in their wishes. Orlam? You wanna make the rules, but all you're doing is running is running from the rules meant to help you find happiness - not to mention sealing yourself off from all aspects of life, even the good parts. Gidget? Your true self is a man, but you sacrifice it all for your mother's flawed view of the world and a pointless, destructive obsession over a biological man who can never satisfy you the way you OR your mother wants. Genzou? You want to see with Iggy so badly, you're willing to be blinded by his own emptiness to the point of sharing it and its active harming those who truly care for you - like Orlam. Bucks? You want your daughter dead...how do you think you got into Wonderland these last six times (at least)?! Iggy, though? The Wishing Tree's diatribe against him fits perfectly (and is a nice fourth-wall break).
OK, with that out of the way, but before I get into my non-review questions: final verdict? My good carrot, this is a masterpiece. Full stop.
This is worthy of a commercial remake. Get the money and team you need to bring the rest of the arcs up to Arc 5's level, make original backgrounds, music, etc.; hire on voice actors, like asexual Michael Kovak and pansexual Elsie Lovelock (my personal choices for Iggy and Gidget, respectively); and get more semi-animated and animated scenes in.
Okay, for the question and one 'critique' that's so minor it's a nitpick:
Why are the scenes of Orlam's Event Horizon-level flesh-orgy and Sadie's mangled corpse censored even with censorship off? I realize these scenes can easily be EXTREMELY triggering, if not upsetting and/or disturbing, but I feel those who are willing to brave the depravity should be permitted to see the images in all their horrid detail as, in context, they cement, respectively, just how completely uncaring and unhinged Orlam has become without his heart, and just how far the Wishing Tree is willing to go to get her 'perfect' wish.
Also, I don't know if this is just a limitation of Ren'Py or what, but in the scenes with false choices, the player could still be made to think that they can make a decision, but no matter which they select, they get the same scene, complete with options in the background. Just something to enhance those scenes' bait-and-switch.
Thanks for reading, Carrot, and I look forward to your next endeavor!
I know that this is probably really obvious, but I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT TRAIL BOMB IS?????? LIKE, I was so confused man when they first introduced it, now im replaying a still have no idea. help
Given the loyal rabbits' rabid behavior and tastes, I would assume a trail bomb is made from humans or something they'd find similarly-irresistible.
I love this game so much, I had chills when I first played through it and I couldn't make myself stop. It's amazing and I feel so seen through Iggy. Orlam my beloved <3333
FOR EVERYONE HERE: Where is the fandom? Like, where y'all at? I searched up Our Wonderland and there was literally maybe ten people who had anything related to it, and there were only a couple hundred views for those. WHERE Y'ALL AT?! This game deserves so much more than a couple hundred fans!
Also Orlam is the most beautiful scraggly rat man I've ever seen and I'm in love with him. I ship Iggy with Genzou, obviously, but I keep playing the Orlam ending because I'm just obsessed.
I don't know if there are other places, I only know about the places where I also hang out and post stuff, but from what I can tell, most people are on Tumblr. There's also people on Twitter, though I think it feels like less of a community there?? But that's just my observation not as part of the fandom but as the creator lol. I don't really have a presence outside of those two places though so I can't say if there's anyone anywhere else.
There should be more people in the fandom! This game is so well made! It's not even behind a paywall, so everyone's just sleeping on this opportunity. The characters are developed perfectly, the interactions are both heart-wrenching and hilarious, there's not a single plot hole in the storyline, and so many other things that I can't even put to words.
I will be on AO3, cause those are my true stomping grounds, but you can BET as soon as I improve my drawing skills, I'll be on Twitter!
umm hi u can follow my tumblr i post fanart n stuff :3 and im a huge orlam enjoyer too...
... Platonically and respectfully, I love you.
Hiii I post fanart on tiktok (apolloraysx) twitter and tumblr (axciea) if you like orlam I mostly draw him :3
I will replay the heck outta this game no matter how long it is! I fricking love this game!!!! The writing the characters! I rarely ever make comments but have to right now.
Like that's how good this game is.
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This game is one i'll never forget. It made me cry and feel things. I cannot explain how good- no great this was. At the end where it told us what each of their wishes are and having a wall break where it says that Iggy's actions are being controlled by an out side force which is us the player. What struck even more is how Iggy got to make his own choice in the end. Letting us see the monsters and everything fade from wonderland. Also at first we never saw much of Bucks in the first half of the game and how she was like, she was just a big loud and excitable person at the start. Then when it showed the flashbacks of her and everyone saying she was a monster. Everyone was calling her a monster even her friends but Hunar didn't. He saw something beautiful, but when she said that she wanted their child dead he called her a monster. That hurt the most because the one who never called you a monster finally calling you one put her over the edge. I also love how we got to see Saydie. I love this game and the characters so much! They made me cry so much, and I will stay and happily see what you will do next!
Okay seeing as you seem to be as obsessed with this game as I am, I must ask you. Do you know where the fandom is? Because I looked up Our Wonderland on YouTube and TikTok and there were maybe three creators with only a couple hundred views and I definitely
thinkknow this game deserves more than that.I haven't a lot of it on youtube and TikTok, but their is a lot more fans on tumblr you should check out.
(english isn't my first language)
the best game that I'm sure I will never forget. it is emotional, heartwarming and heartbreaking! and its goreee!! when the scary magic tree brings the ugly true human nature out, there must be violence there!
it touches on many topics that are important to me, and which I have rarely seen before. i think i can relate with all of the big 5, especially with iggy
its such a bittersweet feeling, that this is the end of an ERA haha I've finished the game! now i guess i will patiently wait for your next works!!
i really loved the ending, i was in aweee the whole time hahah
SPOILERS:
so i went:
genzou - gidget - orlam - .......genzou again (I didn't feel good not ending with him looll, i had to see their happy end again...also their scene was so romantic omg??? i would die)
(also i forgot that neutral exist, i will do this maybe later haha)
I like that when they go back in time, they still make the same mistakes (i mean, most of them, and handle them better) i like to believe that they are all better friends to each other, especially genzou and orlam...their relationship was just so complicated and tragic ahhh i would like to see more of their friendly bickering <3
bucks and hunar took a break to fullfil their dreams??? BEAUTUFIL
im happy that they are happy in the end...lol, and GIDGET WITH CECIL AYEE GO BESTIES GO and ORLAM WORKING WITH JERRY?? OMGGG HHAHA
thank youu so muuuch and congratulations!! i wish you all the best!! <3
This is genuinely by far the BEST thing I've ever played. The writing, The characters, absolutely everything about Our Wonderland is so amazing that I'd sell my kidney, my legs, and half of my brain just to forget everything and play this all over again for the first time ever, I also finished all the other games and I am still so absolutely hooked!
Spoilers?
I sobbed with genuine tears of joy and happiness when Iggy said I love you to Genzou. Their relationship is so wholesome and adorable and I love how accepting and respectful Genzou is to Iggy, though I admit I may like Orlam and Iggy a tiny bit, nothing can top Genzy, ever.
The part where they gazed into each other's eyes?? Hello??? heart melted instantly.
Genzy has a special place in my heart and I will be playing Our Wonderland again from the start just because of them!
I hated Gidget honestly, but in the last arc? they were pretty cool so I guess I don't dislike them that much anymore now! also loved that they met Cecil, The two of them seems like the best friends ever
And Orlam? my thoughts of him are pretty mixed. but I can't lie, Him and Iggy are sort of cute? in a way. (Genzy still and forever will be the best though)
This game is the best ever, and to be honest? now that I've finished it.. I feel like I don't know what to do with my life anymore haha!
PLEASE DO NOT SELL ANY PARTS OF YOUR BODY?????????? THIS IS BAD???????? HELPDLKFJASLDKFJADSF
Weep I am touched by the sheer fervency though... 😭💕 I'm really happy you enjoy the game so much! And all the other games too!! I always feel extra touched if people even go out of their way to play all the side games lkasdfasd
"Genzy has a special place in my heart and I will be playing Our Wonderland again from the start just because of them!" --> YOU'RE REALLY MAKING ME CRY HERE????
I'm so glad you liked the Genzy route ending... I also really liked how their scene turned out. It felt really cathartic and touching for me and I still get a bit weepy thinking about it lakjdfad They really mean so much to me. Maybe it's all my cathartic ace thoughts manifesting in them but they truly just make me feel so soft and warm when I think about them. This makes me doubly weepy if other people also like them 🥺💕 I could write them finding each other in a thousand other universes and still never get tired I think LMAO I just want to create things about them forever maybe.
I'm glad the ending could also help you like Gidget a bit more!! I never blame anyone for any lingering uncomfortable thoughts they might have about them, at least in regards to Iggy. But I'm happy if by the end, even those that may have disliked them can still come to understand them and their struggles.
"Him and Iggy are sort of cute? in a way." --> KDFJADSF I don't know why but this made me laugh... 🤣
"now that I've finished it.. I feel like I don't know what to do with my life anymore haha!" --> YOU AND ME BOTH LOLOLOL
But for real though, thank you so much for all these kind words!! And thank you for loving the game and the chars (and Genzy) and taking the time to write up all your thoughts like this. It really means so much!! And I'm really happy you enjoyed the game and its finale!! 🥰
Spoilers maybe?
Not me lowkey getting scared when it said "What do you want, Saydie?" because that's my deadname and I forgot it was the name of Bucks' child so I thought it knew something
Oh god I'm sorry????? 😵💫
Don't apologize! I thought it was hilarious!
Okay, I literally hated Gidget. I hated them. But in that last arc? They're literally my best friend now.
lkdjfadkfasd I'm glad to hear your opinion has evolved 🤣 (though I also don't fault anyone who still has reservations about them) They would indeed make a pretty cool friend.
New comment after having finished the game:
God, this has been such a wonderful game from start to finish. I remember how hooked I got the first time I played the first 3 arcs. The characters feel all so human and distintic, with their own wishes and motivations, with their own flaws and things that pain them.
SPOILERS BELOW!
I loved the final message about how the story isn't a fairytale, so even when they all go back to when they were kids, they still make some of the same mistakes they did before but they react to them better and learn from them!!
Bucks story was really heartbreaking. People might not realize sometimes, but when you say something to a person enough times... they start to believe it themselves. It's so sad that she couldn't be honest with herself and admit she didn't like being called a monster and didn't want the life she had until it was too late. But I'm so glad that she got a second chance with the loop and Hunar and she achieved their dreams before marrying!! (Even if I'll miss Saydie, she's a sweetheart!! but I want to think that she'll appear again since they were considering having a child in the future)
The others' endings were really charming too. I love the fact that Gidget becomes more involved with the LGBTQ+ community and how she even meets Cecil!! Their relationship is super wholesome, they feel like siblings!!
I'm still missing Gidget's ending but of the other two I played I think my favorite is definitely Genzou's. As much as I love Orlam, I think (personally) Iggy's relationship with Gen makes a bit more sense because of all the hints and teasing that were going around for the whole game (plus it just hurts me too much to see Genzou sad dksjgbksjb).
The scenes between Iggy and Genzou were super sweet in Arc 5 and the future they build together warms my heart. I especially loved the part where Iggy mentions that Genzou respects his boundaries even when they're not always the same, 'cause sometimes he may feel like he could do more and sometimes less. It honestly made me so happy to read as an ace person myself!!
Overall, gosh, this game is so freaking fantastic. It will forever be one of my favorite games and I'm so happy to have played it and met the characters and read their story.
Thank you so much for this game, Carrot; and congratulations on the completion of it!! I'm looking forward to more of your stories!!
Ahhhhhh thank you so much for playing, Pri!! It really means so much! And I'm so happy you ended up enjoying the finale! 😭💕
Also that you liked the final message. It was something I was thinking about a lot even throughout production, both as how the ending in my head evolved a bit, but also like, how exactly I would handle everything afterwards (helped a lot by working on OC). But I felt like a big part, or maybe at least one of the themes of this game in general, is that 1) things aren't perfect, that's just not realistic, and even if you get close to all the things you want, it still won't be perfect, and 2) that life in general is oftentimes beyond our control, but we still have to just do what we can. And I thought that by showing that, even with them remembering small bits, they would still go on to make some of the same mistakes or have some of the same things happen is precisely because no matter what you do, you can't control everything. You can try to be as calm, as cool, and as levelheaded a person as you possibly can, but even then you might still snap at someone if you're stressed. You might still get flustered and make a mistake. And the idea behind life isn't to eliminate these mistakes but to figure out how to better respond to them and act after the fact. (Obviously this doesn't like... adhere the same to like, all things, but still.)
At any rate... I'm really happy you liked Genzou's ending (and Orlam's too but lol). "(plus it just hurts me too much to see Genzou sad dksjgbksjb)" --> LKDJFALDSKFA NO REAL SAME. It made parts of working on the finale a bit difficult for me tbh because I kept having to compartmentalize parts of it in my mind because I would feel too sad otherwise 🤣 Maybe because as much as I love all the ships, Genzy will always hold a special place in my heart. And also the fact that I think Genzou hurts the most if Iggy doesn't choose him. And maybe also because I feel like the other two have like real strong supports and relationships with others in their own endings even if they're not chosen -- and Genzou does, too! Like I really wanted to show that him actually not focusing on Iggy and making more friends outside of the group and more general connections is what really helped him to be happier with his life. But at the same time his does feel the most like it's missing an Iggy-shaped piece lakdjfasdf 💦 (maybe that's just my heart talking though LOL)
I'm happy you liked the little ace themes woven into the endings, too sob 💕 I included it in different ways no matter the ending. Whether in the form of Iggy coming to terms with himself or in the way he interacts with others. But I really enjoyed how it ended up taking shape in the Genzou ending. Maybe because thinking about the two of them like, having this really trusting way that they experiment with things, and like, Genzou just being always so kind and patient and understanding and never once judging Iggy for anything, and thinking about that kind of love and support, it just makes me really soft and weepy... 😭💕 It makes me want to actually write about it in more detail and what it could look like and also with some silliness and warmth idk. I don't know if I ever will though.
"It will forever be one of my favorite games and I'm so happy to have played it and met the characters and read their story." --> WEEP this really means so much!! Thank you so much for all of your kindness and support and just wonderful friendship over the years, Pri! And thank you for playing the game and for always being so encouraging about everything! It means the world!! 🥺💕
i have words but uhh. it took me over a week to be able to play the finale and yeahh it do be hitting. i am so very tired. (minor spoilers) i really, really loved how this concluded. i adored the ending i got, the exploration of bucks' character was super interesting and cool, iggy finally making his own choice + the slight meta narrative/fourth wall breaking was so neat. carrot youre so incredibly cool and i love you. thank you for my favorite game. im gonna go scroll through the entirety of the blog now. thank you <3
"carrot youre so incredibly cool and i love you." --> WEEP??????
Ahhhh... I'm getting really teary-eyed!! Thank you for this lovely comment and the kind words! I'm so happy you ended up enjoying the finale and just the game in general!! It means so much hearing that the game means so much to you... 😭💕
So like. Amazing. Literally amazing. What the fuck am I going to do with my life now? /j
SPOILERS FOR THE GAME BELOW
Ok so, before finally playing the last part of Arc 5, I actually replayed through the whole game in order to refresh my memory on everything and I DEFINITELY felt like that was needed. I already had a good idea of everything that occurred throughout the game, but experiencing it all over again was definitely much more different than just remembering. It was probably a bad idea in hindsight because I was playing during a week where standardized testing was happening, but I believe it was all worth it. And it made Arc 5 all the more impactful.
The moment they all enter the cabin, there was already quite a bit to unpack. Iggy and Gidget were faced with a reminder of what happened at the end of Arc 4, there was a weird door they all had to figure out how to open, and Genzou and Orlam were already starting to bicker.
(I liked the brief callback to Jerry :D)
I had expected to see Genzou and Orlam to be somewhat happier to talk with each other, but it makes sense that they were still quite hostile, when you think about the relentless torment that Orlam had to go through, and Genzou’s routine of degrading Orlam that he had fallen so deeply into, which he was reluctant to break. That isn’t something one single apology can just fix, and that’s not even considering all the things in the loops that they had to undergo.
And then… Iggy and Gidget. I can’t imagine the cesspool of emotions both of them probably felt when entering the cabin, especially Gidget. That moment HAD been peaceful at first, until the drug that they infused the drink with kicked in, in order to “fix” Iggy and have the perfect life with him.
I love how much emphasis is put on this moment when Iggy “chose” them. The fact that Iggy described Gidget as so composed and strong at first, only for their barely maintained composure to crumble when they started apologizing for what they did to him. And also, in no way did they ever show the resentment towards him that they harbored for him in previous arcs. It was likely exacerbated by the Wonderland, and they also were preoccupied when apologizing to Iggy at that present moment, but still.
They had changed so much, from when Genzou and Iggy first visited them in the town, to that moment, when they started crying, kneeling in front of Iggy. Their change wasn’t just in physical appearance, but in mindset and demeanor as well. The complete shift from how flippant and carefree they were in the beginning, to the serious and grounded mindset they started to adopt the moment they were released from the shackles of others’ expectations for them. Though, that same carefree demeanor also felt like an attempt to disguise the fact that they were hanging onto their last thread of sanity, so it was probably more like a return to what they used to be. And the vulnerability they had when they expressed their fear of the Wonderland showing their “true self” is heartbreaking. It tied in with their whole theme of "not knowing themself", which is most evidently relevant to their gender identity, but also to other aspects of themself and whatnot.
Even with all this in mind, Iggy chose to trust them, and believe in the person that they have transformed into, rather than the person driven insane by the delusions of a fantasy world that had tortured him so much. I feel like that aspect of their relationship is what led me to enjoy seeing it play out so much. Them falling asleep outside instead of going back inside is so dorky too.
And SPEAKING of Genzou… there was a lot of content for his scene that made me think “damn, this one is definitely the most romantic out of all of them”. Like, they kiss once, then another time, and then they have a CG in the cabin where they’re lovingly gazing into each other’s eyes. Funnily enough, I was thinking about Orlam being awake and just watching them (especially considering that’s the very thing he does the morning after) when that moment happened. As for Gidget, I assume they were still outside, but it’s kinda funny to imagine them walking in and being like “…oh" and then needing to deal with that in the morning.
It does actually make sense that Iggy and Genzou have the strongest relationship, at least in terms of romance, because he’s the only one that hadn’t really traumatized him in any way, so there’s not much room for animosity in their relationship. And the fact that his arc was centered around the comfort that he gives Iggy and how much he cared for him makes it even easier for Iggy to love him without any reservations.
Either way, it’s so sweet to see how their scene plays out. It first starts off with Iggy caring for Genzou’s severed finger, and then delving into Genzou’s deep-rooted issues of self-hatred and his hypocrisy. I really love the part where Iggy proclaims that he loves Genzou when Genzou asks why he cares so much and then they have the kiss and then the dorky moment when Genzou is pulling his beanie over his head and AAAAAAAAAAAAA
This scene with Genzou feels EXTREMELY relevant to how they both were in the beginning of Arc 5, where Iggy takes it upon himself to care for Genzou when he’s not in the right mind to care for himself, where in the past, Genzou had been the one doing that. Notably, there’s also the juxtaposition of how they’re feeling extremely conflicting emotions about each other when Iggy visits Genzou’s house in the beginning, to how SURE they are of their feelings right before they confront Bucks. Iggy’s comment about the world being too cruel to let them sleep peacefully together reminds me of Arc 2, where they have the moment in the castle where Iggy opens up to him and they kiss, only for that happy moment to be taken away from them so quickly when Iggy was brought to be electrocuted and Genzou was later axed by Bucks at the cliff.
As for Orlam, it’s a bit sad that my opinion of him hasn’t changed much from my perspective in previous comments I’ve made. I guess it’s because of the fact that we didn't really see much of him until the latter half of Arc 5, and his segment primarily consisted of him expressing his hatred for the others and how much he suffered, right until the very end. It’s like, I understand his story and shit, and there are some parts of it I feel I can relate with, but he just doesn’t resonate with me as much as Gidget and Genzou does.
With that out of the way, I still think his dynamic with Iggy is intriguing, though. Their relationship isn’t plainly defined as “romantic”, because there’s more to it than that, but they also don’t try to conform to the expectations of others (hence the theme of “making one’s own rules”). Even so, there’s still a clear connection that they have with each other, even with the ways that they largely differ.
He definitely opens up more when Iggy chooses him, too. There’s no doubt that he certainly likes to fluster Iggy, but there’s also a sense of caring that he has for Iggy too. His morals are interesting also, with how he confirms that he had some semblance of regret for what he did, but still wouldn’t change what he did: rather, if it ended, then he would simply “let it end”. Interestingly enough, this idea also seems to be relevant to his lack of reactions compared to Gidget and Genzou when Iggy is put in some kind of danger (even when he’s the one that’s “chosen”).
I think it’s because in some way, he’s accepting the possibility of Iggy dying. Not because he doesn’t care for him, but because that’s something that can happen, and there’s no changing it if it does. One also has to consider that this timeline takes place where Iggy was one of the multiple people in the friend group that let him be bullied relentlessly (even when he had good moments with Orlam), and the fact that he was the target of Genzou’s affections. Genzou, the one who Orlam had a big fat crush on. So it would make sense if there was still some built up resentment that led him to not care as much for Iggy. I could be misconstruing his actions entirely, but who knows lol.
And then if Iggy chooses no one, I think I like the way he approached the events that happen from that point onward. Sure, you lose out on specific interactions that pertain to specific characters, but it also feels like his actions were consistent with his motives. He tried to take it into his own hands to do things on his own and took the initiative, first helping Genzou and going off on his own to confront Gidget. He didn’t go unscathed while doing it, evidently (considering he sustained injuries basically every other second), but his efforts still showed nonetheless.
He grit his teeth through the tough moments, and tried to rely on his own strength to do everything that he can feasibly do himself (at least if he chooses no one to help him). In all honesty, it’s kinda funny thinking about how he has the whole spiel about needing someone else’s warmth because he’ll die without it, only for him to be like “…actually, I can use my own warmth”.
Ok so um. Finally moving onto the more important events of Arc 5, the battle with Bucks was... certainly not what I was expecting. She manifested as a LITERAL monster when they first encounter her, which then becomes so sad to think about after the flashbacks and cutscene of Iggy as Hunar telling her she’s not a monster. With this continuous perception of her being some sort of monster, she just started to roll with it entirely, with Hunar being the only one that diverged from this point of view. At least, up until their relationship started going downhill (it was so sad seeing her sob after Hunar called her a monster T_T). The Wonderland also warping her into becoming the cold-blooded killer that the group was faced with at the end of their respective arcs didn’t help to relieve that perception of her either, and probably even exacerbated it considering they had to see her like that multiple times.
Going back to before that, it’s interesting that Iggy tried to use the Saydie doll to get Bucks’s attention first instead of the axe charm, when Saydie was basically the primary cause of Bucks’s suffering, whether she wanted her to be or not. Though Iggy does come to this realization when he actually grabs the axe charm. It’s pretty funny how it plays out cause the screen is all red and shaky from having his fingers literally being CUT OFF and then everything suddenly comes to a stop, and he's like “ah. of course.”
And when they finally get to the tree. I fucking had CHILLS when the heartbeat scene happened. Initially, the silhouette of the tree getting closer and closer made me anxious that there was gonna be a jumpscare or something, but then the reveal that Saydie was being kept alive by the tree was horrifying. Like, she was alive, but as a “writhing mass” (as Orlam had described her), and the visceral descriptions that were given, accompanied by the music that played… like jfc. It makes sense that she kept telling Iggy to kill her cause I don’t think ANYONE wants to live like that.
Tbh, I actually didn’t think about the tree itself being the main antagonistic force, but that should’ve been obvious in hindsight to me. It’s so… innocently described in the story given in the very beginning of Arc 5, and then it felt so... malicious once they finally met it in the end. Though, that could be because it was affected by the Wonderland’s tendencies, considering how fucked up the world all was.
After that would be the scene with Saydie where she takes Iggy to hear about all of the others’ wishes, and then Iggy’s own wish. Through Iggy’s own power, when he simultaneously grants Saydie’s wish and destroys the tree, it’s very gratifying to watch. At the same time though, I’m confused about the true importance of Iggy’s wish. He wished that “he could make his friends this happy forever”, but… what happened, exactly? Under the assumption that this wish disappeared just like the others, does it mean that the loop was broken? I guess it would be because this happiness was derived from being in the Wonderland, and if that lasted forever, then so would the Wonderland. There was clarification about this in another comment, but I'm not exactly sure if I have the correct impression.
On that note, the fact that everyone got a chance to redo the past (albeit with certain events staying the same) is quite the unexpected ending. I had thought they would be forced to confront the world as they were, with their present injuries and trauma and all that shit. Don’t get me wrong though, it was not bad by any means. I very much liked seeing the new resolutions of the events that went down, and also how everyone lived their lives anew. It probably just took me surprise, like it did with many others. I think I liked the Genzou variant the most (which is probably no surprise, considering my previous comments about him).
There’s honestly so much more I could call attention to, like the callbacks dispersed throughout the game to moments that previously happened, the various cutscenes in the latter half of the game that are so fucking heartwrenching (i.e. Genzou’s apology to Orlam), the endcards, and the very fitting OSTs, but that’d drag it out way longer. So I will leave it at that, and tell you that this was truly a fantastic game. I’m very happy to have discovered this game when it was still in the works and it feels so great to see it be finished. I also enjoyed your responses to my comments very much and I will miss them a lot. IDFK how I made another comment this long just by analyzing the second part of Arc 5, but I guess I just REALLY really liked this game. So as a concluding statement, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING OUR WONDERLAND!!!!
"What the fuck am I going to do with my life now?" --> THIS IS THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR MYSELF AS WELL........ 💦
Sob, at any rate... I'm going to cry from this comment. I'm not only overjoyed you ended up enjoying the last part, but that you'd take so much time??? To write so much??? My heart...🥺💕
You played through the whole game again beforehand ahhhHHHHHH. Somehow this is so touching to me... 😭 I can imagine it could definitely be helpful especially if you haven't played it in a while. Also there's definitely a decent number of times in the finale where I reference past parts of the game. Sometimes even just little small lines, etc. It's obviously not necessary to notice all of these, but it could definitely help if some of them are more fresh in your mind going into Arc 5... (it is a very long game after all and has been in production for a long time lakdjfas) I'm glad that doing so could make the finale feel like it has even more impact!
"That isn’t something one single apology can just fix, and that’s not even considering all the things in the loops that they had to undergo." --> Indeed... I did kinda think about how to approach them for a little bit before diving right into the writing for the finale. In my mind, it would have just felt weird and out of place for them to suddenly be all hunky-dory with each other, not only because it's so fresh, but also because with all the stress and uncertainty of what's to come, they would likely resort back to their typical coping mechanisms LOL That and I kinda see these two as just... well, it's them. Like. Even in the best timelines they'll still be bickering away. But that's moreso because of their personalities and views. Like how even in OC where none of the "worst" things that happened in OW happened in that timeline, they still bicker constantly LOL They just get on each other's nerves and always will. But at least their bickering has less hate behind it and is no longer one-sided.
Hearing you talk about Gidget's part is making me very weepy. I'm glad you like how their route played out. I know it will always probably be the most decisive of all the options, just because of everything that happened, so I really tried to approach it carefully. But I also don't blame anyone who doesn't want to play their route or just doesn't prefer it as much. So hearing that you did still enjoy it and the direction that Gidget's character took is very touching to me 💕
"Funnily enough, I was thinking about Orlam being awake and just watching them" --> LKDJFALSKDF THIS MADE ME LAUGH LOL.
I also feel like Genzou's scene and route in general is the most romantic. Probably because I feel like that's just more the dynamic he and Iggy have. Like of the three possibilities, even though all three of them can settle in and care for each other and have a life together, Genzou and Iggy are the only one where I would say "yes these two are in love with each other," so I think that comes out a lot in how I ended up doing their scene. Plus they had more build-up, I think, that led in that direction. I'm really happy you liked their scene in general WEEP. It may be the one that affects me the most on an emotional level, I'll admit... I just think they're so precious... sigh...
"Notably, there’s also the juxtaposition of how they’re feeling extremely conflicting emotions about each other when Iggy visits Genzou’s house in the beginning, to how SURE they are of their feelings right before they confront Bucks." --> I'M GONNA WEEP
Lol your comments about Orlam... I am indeed always curious how people will react to not only Orlam himself but the Orly dynamic. And I freely admit he's not everyone's cup of tea in general 🤣 I'm touched you still played his route though in spite of not liking him as much! I'm mostly quite fascinated by their dynamic and think it's really fun to explore, even if it wouldn't really be described as romantic. I enjoy what they bring out in each other and how neither one really cares about what the other is doing. I think that also plays into a lot of how they act in the rest of the finale if you take their route. That and Orlam's personality in general. Like he's just not the type of person to show outward distress/fear at someone else's predicament the way the others are, so even in his route, it felt weird for him to ever shout at Iggy in a fearful way. And yeah, you said some really interesting things about him being more accepting of their fate either way than the others are, which I think is also true.
It's really lovely hearing all your thoughts about Bucks's scene and the tree and Saydie.
"He wished that “he could make his friends this happy forever”, but… what happened, exactly? Under the assumption that this wish disappeared just like the others, does it mean that the loop was broken?" --> kdjaldfa this is one of those things where I like to leave some of it rather vague and up to interpretation, which is part of why I went with cutscenes here, as they were a great way to kinda just... show things without necessitating a thorough detailed explanation. I really like letting players/readers come up with their own thoughts about a lot of the things that happen (unless it's something that's like... crucial for the story ofc). I'll say though that yeah, Iggy's childhood wish kinda influenced... everything... after he made it. Like even in his head entering this mindset of focusing on others over himself, which usually just backfired because he was too young to handle a lot of the conflicts and emotions. But also keeping everyone close by even if they would have been better leaving. Keeping everyone with this connection to himself they can't escape from. To then leading to the literal loop where he couldn't die because that went against the wish so restarting again and again, each time focusing on someone else, but it never works, because he can't make everyone happy ofc. And so him destroying the wish destroyed his life in a way, because his life itself had become the result of his wish. And so all the loops and everything after his original wish was destroyed. That's kinda how I see it, but I'm also fine if people come up with other interpretations and theories for that part, too.
"So I will leave it at that, and tell you that this was truly a fantastic game. I’m very happy to have discovered this game when it was still in the works and it feels so great to see it be finished." --> Ahhhhhhh... 💕😭 That really means so lot! And I've always enjoyed reading your comments so much!!! It makes me so happy when people enjoy the chars and story enough to want to dissect it and figure things out and look for connections, etc. So reading those kinds of comments truly means the world.
I'm ecstatic you ended up enjoying the finale so much! And the game as a whole! I can't really believe it's over now. And it's all been hitting me pretty hard. But hearing from people that have enjoyed it and the journey it's taken has really helped so much. Thank you for all the kind words and all of the support and love you've given to the game!! 💕
After finishing the game, I immediately created this account for the sole purpose of writing this comment. Our Wonderland has been a journey–I wasn’t here at the beginning of the game, I actually played it first when Arc 5 part 1 came out. Nonetheless, It’s been amazing seeing the story and character development. Even as I write this, I can’t believe it’s over. Iggy, Genzou, Gidget, Orlam, Hunar, and Buxley.. They’ll always be in my heart. The world of “Our Wonderland” is so much more than a game. It’s everything!!
Anyways, I’m not the best with words, but I need to say THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CREATING OUR WONDERLAND!!!!!!! IT’S THE MOST BEAUTIFUL, AMAZING PIECE OF MEDIA EVER CREATED AND I’M GOING TO SCREAM THAT FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE!! Everything from the music choice, placement, sprites, colours, EVERYTHING was perfect. And the writing. I LOVED THE WRITING SO MUCH RAHHHHH
Don’t get me started on the characters either. I love everyone of them and I feel so close with them. Iggy especially though, he’s so relatable and I really connected with his struggles at times. The pressure to perform is so hard, and life can feel meaningless sometimes. But I love the message of the game, which I think is to find your own happiness. The character development is amazing, and there are so many connections and references throughout the game!!
I’ve recommended this to everyone I know (whether they actually played it or not has remained a mystery) but I think that more people need to seriously know about this!!! Our Wonderland is a beautiful, heartwarming and tearjerking game (literally i cried multiple times) which is severely underrated. I wish that I could tell you every other thought that i’ve had about this game or write several essays like the other commenters, but like i said earlier I’m not too good with words. Still, I hope my message reaches you (in case it didn’t, the message is that you created the best game in the world and i love it so so so much my heart might burst).
I won’t yap for much longer: Carrot Patch Games, you deserve an award or several of them or really a trophy for creating the best game EVER. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING :) <3
HELP YOUR USERNAME I'M SOBBING??????
"The world of “Our Wonderland” is so much more than a game. It’s everything!!" --> Sob this is so incredibly sweet... I'm really happy the game and its chars could have such an impact on you and resonate with you so much!! I ALSO CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S OVER. I think it's part of why I've been just kinda numb since the launch.
Ahhhh your words are so kind and sweet and really making me weepy. It really means so much so hearing that! Thank you for the kind words!
"Iggy especially though, he’s so relatable and I really connected with his struggles at times." --> HHHHHH I'M REALLY GLAD. Hearing that people can relate to Iggy really makes me wanna cry as there's so much of myself in him. I'm really touched!! 😭💕
"but like i said earlier I’m not too good with words" --> YOUR WORDS ARE VERY KIND AND I APPRECIATE THEM VERY MUCH!!! 💕
Ahhhhh truly thank you! This was such a wonderful and kind comment and I'm really honored that you enjoyed the game so much!! Reading this really brightened my day!! 🥰
I needed some time to collect my thoughts after finishing the finale and all endings. The ending threw me for a loop (a time loop...lol). I'll get more into Ending Spoilers later, but I want to say some non-spoilery stuff about the game as a whole first.
This is such an awesome gore game. There is nothing else like Our Wonderland. The level of nonsense this game is on is unmatched. I am a big fan of hyper-gore and guro-type games, on some level because its such a strange and loud way to tell a story that it always makes me interested. There's also a sense of humor and catharsis in the absurdity of all that violence. Our Wonderland makes use of these ideas so well. These characters are dysfunctional, they never learned how to be close to someone without ripping their skin off, and its sad, and its funny, and it's hitting on a personal level. I have also never played another game that depicts asexuality in such a visceral way. OW rockz 5ever.
Spoilers time~
Okay, so that ending! The more I thought about the characters, the more I liked it and a sense of acceptance washed over me. They were always in that never-ending life, even before I came in and started playing with them, and so of course they return once again. It reminded me of the Nietzsche quote I sent you on tumblr a while ago. (I couldn't find the tumblr post, so I'm just linking to the quote itself.)
The scene with Saydie guiding Iggy to find all his friends was really emotional for me. All the characters saying their adult wishes, but looking like children, and realizing their wishes sound so much like the wishes of children. Sometimes I feel like I carry every age I've ever been with me, so I'm more experienced at being 9 than I am at being 26. This scene reminded me of that feeling. It was really well-done.
Other thoughts: I am still reeling from my ship being canon!? Gidget/Cecil/Orlam canon, arguably in every universe except for the Orly ending! I am screaming!! I am sooooo happy for them. Oh my GOD.
I also really loved the Orly ending, too! For me, that one was the sweetest. They keep coming back to each other. Everything about them together. Discordant harmony in B, please. <3
Our Wonderland is so good. Congrats on finishing this giant game! I'm so happy I got to play it, and now it will be played over and over again by players new and old! :3
"The level of nonsense this game is on is unmatched." --> HELP DJLAKSDFJAD
It's so interesting to me in general... I feel like I went into this game wanting to make something horrific and intense but with some underlying feels, but by the end, I feel like I'd transitioned away from wanting to make something horrific and became much more focused on the characters and their stories and wanting to make something that could resonate and move people rather than be horrific for horrific's sake. And maybe that's partly why I've been nervous with the direction of the game and especially the finale. Since I do feel like the game has changed over time. So it probably feels different to those who have been following it the whole time. Not that there were a lot of people back then but still lol. Maybe it's a part of me just growing as a dev and realizing what the stories are that I really want to tell. Unsure.
But I digress.
"These characters are dysfunctional, they never learned how to be close to someone without ripping their skin off, and its sad, and its funny, and it's hitting on a personal level. " --> This is such a great line and a great summary of the characters in general ldkjfasfd
I'm glad you were able to accept the ending even if it sounds like you probably didn't like it at first LOL 🤣 I'm noticing that this seems to be a bit of a trend for people that have played it perhaps. I knew that the ending would probably cause some conflicts and that not everyone would like it. But I'm glad at least if people are able to accept it as the end even if it might not be exactly what they wanted 💦 Even before I started working on Arc 5, I knew I wasn't going to be able to please everyone. Not only with everything that happens throughout Arc 5 but also with the final ending. In the end, as a creator, though, you just need to go with what feels right and stick with it hahaha.
"Sometimes I feel like I carry every age I've ever been with me, so I'm more experienced at being 9 than I am at being 26." --> God I resonate with this so much 💦 Also for the sheer fact that it seems like no matter how old I get, I always feel behind. That I'm even more lost than I was in the past, where my brain thought it knew what it was doing even if it didn't.
LDKJFALDSKFA I'M GLAD YOU LIKED THE GIDGET/CECIL/ORLAM. They are just such a fun little interesting group to me and I want them to find happiness in each other in whatever ways they want to and move past the people that have caused them harm. The little Orlam bits in Gidget's epilogue weren't planned at all, they just kinda snuck in there as I was working on them because it felt right and a bit cheeky. Also that you liked the Orly ending. They are indeed so sweet to me... something about their dynamic just makes me smile. I like that they just do their own thing with zero expectations for each other but still have each other as a sort of anchor.
Thank you so much for the kind words and for taking the time to leave you thoughts!! Sob it really means a lot. And I'm really happy you ended up enjoying the finale and the game as a whole. It took such a big chunk of me to make. And a big chunk of my life in general. So I'm just really happy if people can come away with it feeling like it was worth their time perhaps dkjafd 🤣💦