This took DAYS. But I finally finished it. Holy cow what a ride. This made me actually pull open a word doc for notes so I could regularly get passwords and route outlines.
I have a question but it's a spoiler so I'll hide it below
Spoilers!
Dave's talk with Orlando, after everything is said and done. That is a lose end I hadn't thought about until he mentioned it. Orlando's dad isn't dead, so that's still happening. Is there a sequel that's being planned? Is there more content related that will be released when the full game is finished? Orlando was seriously my second favorite route after Ty, I want to help him too XD
There will be a sequal but its set some time after password and wont have Dave in it, or at least last it was mentioned he wouldn't even have a camio. I'm not sure what you mean by Dave's dad not being dead, because he is, the only times he isn't is in the alternate timelines.
Well i'm not sure all the details and wont say all i know since it's spoilery but the sequal is called syndicate and will be investigating something involving the police, and at least two of passwords cast i know will be involved for sure.
HELP , I remove the game and install again and again but i cant get reset the game, it always contains my save routes and then I cant go to Dave Bad Ending again, it stinks, I dont understand this bug :(
😎 - Well, or rather, my fucking unnecessary opinion of Grizz about his game. Nothing bad, honestly!
- I wonder if they can ban you for swearing here? I hope not..
- I mean, the very fact that Dave himself remembers all his past lives tells us that there may be countless such outcomes as the "True Ending" when you collect medallions, and after each such visit, Dave's psyche will break down more and more often, and it will all come to the flesh to the point that he will begin to remember all the lives he has lived much earlier than he collects all the medallions, for example, when he first interacts with Vault, or when he first meets Oswin or Thanatos, and then even earlier, when he just gets on the bus or sees Liam for the first time, and I can one hundred percent to guarantee that all this will come to the point that he will remember all his lives when he first met Roswell as a child, and at some point he will have a choice, to continue repeating this whole vicious circle or to nip it in the bud, removing the cause and effect of everything or not, but when he accepts his own the solution, he will have several paths again, Good, Neutral and Nightmarish.
- And with all this, I boldly declare that this game is good, very good, with a well-thought-out plot and mentally unhealthy characters! You did a great job, Grizz!
Im trying look for the path for that trauma Pic but I cant get It. I need help, please, I think It happens in Orlando route, but Im not sure.
I suppose Dave have to go with Oswind to visit to Memphis, but when I reach 23th day, Dave always send to Dean instead himself and so I never can reach that trauma
The cg's aren't done yet, currently Grizz is working on the dean rewrite. But if you're thinking of playing the itch.io version it isn't currently being updated while Grizz works on getting everything finished up. The itch.io version is the complete BETA version. All updates are currently just on patreon that you can get access to for £1 a month.
this is from october so i think its okay to post but yeah the sprites are going great
- Okay, I think there's no point in keeping a pig in a poke and I'll ask the logical question, When did David die? Judging by the stories at the beginning, Tyson said that this happened two years ago, further along the plot it is told that he died either a year ago or a little more than a year ago, but can we at least be a little more specific? Even if we compare the fact that the events of the novel take place on July 15, 2019, it turns out that David died in 2017-2018??? Please give me an answer😭
It's a year and a half (ish) prior to the events of the game from memory. I never had set dates from when anything takes place, so I don't know where you're pulling July 15 2019 from.
- Well, as for me, it is natural to assume that if there are no set dates in the game, then it is logical to assume that events unfold exactly on the release date of the game itself😕
- I have a theory that Dave is the hundredth child on whom Oswin tested his serum and several factors lead to this.
First, Dave's coat color is paler than his parents', as if he died at the time of the serum test, but then came back to life (too biased and even slightly racist factor😝)
Second: the dates of the serum tests and age, judging from the fact that Rosewell was born on the day of the serum test, and he was eighteen at the time of the trip to the mansion, and Dave was nineteen, then Dave was already a year old at the time of the serum test (that's just I do not know the reason why Carol allowed the serum tests on Dave and so that David didn't know about it, or David also knew about it, but carefully hid it, the devil knows🤷)
Third: Dave is a pure anomaly, there were several times when he was almost killed, but he miraculously survived, however, nothing in this world happens without cause and effect, I explain, the first time David prevented Dave's death and sacrificed himself, the second time Dave himself saw Two moments of his death, one of which has nothing to do with his current iteration, and the second showed him either the future that has yet to happen, or the past in which it already happened, where Jack stabbed Dave on Memphis' orders (and here I also have no idea how this should lead to serum tests, but if if so, it means that Dave was born in a shirt and he survived three times, and as for me, big Thanatos should have a lot of fire in one place, if you understand me😎)
- Well, in conclusion, I want to note that if Dave was not the hundredth test subject, then it should be sooner In total, Jack, two factors in particular indicate this.
First: his eyes with black whites.
Second: age, although this is not really mentioned in the game, but Jack should not be younger than the same Dominic (and Dom, as I understand it, is the same age as Hoss, who is about twenty years old)
This is the end of the theory, and whoever does not understand will understand😜
i dont remember exactly its either the path where you kill everyone as fast as possible or path C, i think. it could also just be on a certain character route, but i cant say which it could be since that would spoil the answer.
The coffee is a way of getting affection with the boys.
Use 'Dave' to get +1 affection with everyone. You can use any of the friends names to get unique dialogue and +1 affection with that person (names must be capitalised).
Theres some others just for dialogue like 'Timber' and 'Chase', i dont know them all
- S-So, uh... What kind of questions can you ask Oswin on the eighth day? Like what if I tell him Thanatos's name even though Dave shouldn't know about him in the story? Or ask Oswin about Dave's parents, because Dave also shouldn't have known that his parents were both in this mansion. It just seems to me that it would be much more interesting if the reaction of characters like Oz was more harsh about this. Just imagine! A hyena guy comes to your mansion who suddenly enters the necessary passwords from the vault one by one and also knows about things that he shouldn't know about! If I were Oswin, I'd go crazy myself!
so I'm been watching Keith Ballard's LP of Password and a recurring critique is that none of the characters have a unique voice, they all speak of everything in the same manner, so I would like to help fix that, with my completely unqualified advice based on amateur knowledge of linguistic psychology, I will say which way I think the characters would speak based of their personalities, and hopefully would help make their voices distinct if implemented, maybe, I'm not a writer so who knows
Orlando, Hoss, and Oswin: Syllogistic Form (Given X, then Y; If-then statements, conditional logic); Declarative Form (Sentences are declared as clear-cut statements, with closure);
Orlando and Hoss: Persuasive Cadence (Pacing, word choice, and delivery meant to maximize affect); Familiar Tone (Friendly, colloquial tone to invoke relatability and camaraderie); but how to make Orlando and Hoss' voices distinct from each other?
Oswin: Blunt Delivery (Matter-of-fact language, straightforward and unadorned); Avalanching Facts (Communication via an impersonal series of causal events news anchor style);
Dave and Dean: Self-referencing ("I" language, subjective opinion/belief-centered grammar); Terseness (Brief, minimalist language, stating things statically without much elaboration);
Dave: Ontological Clarifying (Heavy time spent defining initial "terms" and avoiding equivocations); Semantic Disclaimers (Preemptive addressing of common misunderstandings, to ensure comprehension);
Dean: Self-revealing language (Candid details of personal life, oversharing); Direct affirmation of self-properties (Declaring what one is directly, without speculation);
Tyson: Short Phrases (With quick follow-ups); Casual language (Informal tone and style); Vivid Realism (Description of objects/experiences in visceral detail, highlighting the overall feeling evoked); Trendy Language (On-trend slang words and references);
Roswell, Sal, and Benson: Dense Information (Reference-rich, information-heavy sentences); Long Elaborations (Prolonged backstories, long paragraphs, and buildup);
Benson: Backstory & Context (Thorough setup and backstory provided for a given point or topic); Step-by-Step Elaboration (Explanations that follow a brick-by-brick narrative sequence);
Roswell and Sal: Convergent Events (Rather than one linear chronology, the past is explained as events crossing paths); Cross-Domain Synthesis (Tying different domains/layers into the present topic, as real or as metaphors); but how to make Roswell and Sal's voices distinct from each other?
this is all probably bullshit, I would appreciate it if someone who actually knows how to write dialogue would give their 2 cents
i dont really get the point but i'm also tired so wtf. Is the problem you want voice acting or is it just because it's plain text without some mannerisms like slovenly speech?
If its the mannerisms thing the reason is most likely to keep things plain and simple to read. Grizz is australian and some people had problems with the text early on so he changed it all to american. Putting regional colloquialisms into the story would just make it harder for people to follow or understand and in a murder mystery that you need to solve that can be alienating.
By "voice" he's talking about a term in the writing and literary world to refer to how a character's personality and psychology is shown through their choice of words; how they express, what they express, etc.
*Not* accent, dialect, or colloquialisms.
Typically, if every character talks the same, that might not be considered the best dialogue. Though that being a problem in Password is OP's opinion, not mine.
I don't know how far away the next public build is, but the next one will likely be the first one until it goes full release; just need to clean up Dean's route first.
I'm really enjoying password. Very good writing and story building. Thank you it's been a real pleasure even if it is intense and scary. Especially when it guessed my real name. 😁
Is it possible to recover my save data? My old device wont work and my save is on there. Is there a way to get back to the point I was at or change a file to match my old file? I tried usong a save editor but its too complex and the game crashed when i loaded the edited save.
Given no save editor should exist, that's probably why the game crashed. If you're able to access your old device at all, there's a chance your saves are also backed up in %APP DATA%. Failing that, you'll just have to use the skip options available in-game to speed through what you've already seen and get back to where you were.
That's what's planned for the next stage. Dean rewrite is happening on the Patreon side currently and once that's done a lot of things are being culled for expediency.
Well, I finally finished the main story and I'm kind of sad that the story is over, I really liked the characters, they are very charismatic, in relation to the story it's very good, the password mechanics work well and it's cool when you discover the passwords by yourself , in relation to the ending:
SPOILER!!!!!
Dave getting memories from other timelines was something I was already expecting but it was cool to see anyway, there were some things I wanted answered, like what the big Thatanos was, what happened to Orlando's father in the P timeline, but nothing that ruins the game in relation to Taison being the Canonical route, I'm happy and sad, I like Taison, but David and Orlando will always be canonical in my heart, excellent game.
← Return to game
Comments
Log in with itch.io to leave a comment.
This took DAYS. But I finally finished it. Holy cow what a ride. This made me actually pull open a word doc for notes so I could regularly get passwords and route outlines.
I have a question but it's a spoiler so I'll hide it below
Spoilers!
Dave's talk with Orlando, after everything is said and done. That is a lose end I hadn't thought about until he mentioned it. Orlando's dad isn't dead, so that's still happening. Is there a sequel that's being planned? Is there more content related that will be released when the full game is finished? Orlando was seriously my second favorite route after Ty, I want to help him too XD
There will be a sequal but its set some time after password and wont have Dave in it, or at least last it was mentioned he wouldn't even have a camio. I'm not sure what you mean by Dave's dad not being dead, because he is, the only times he isn't is in the alternate timelines.
Apologies, I meant Orlando's dad
Well i'm not sure all the details and wont say all i know since it's spoilery but the sequal is called syndicate and will be investigating something involving the police, and at least two of passwords cast i know will be involved for sure.
HELP , I remove the game and install again and again but i cant get reset the game, it always contains my save routes and then I cant go to Dave Bad Ending again, it stinks, I dont understand this bug :(
It's because your save files are stored elsewhere. Should be defaulting to My Documents I think?
no clue
%APPDATA\RenPy\PASSWORD is where you should find your save data
thanks yu very much ^^
😁 - SPOILERS! AGAIN!!!
😎 - Well, or rather, my fucking unnecessary opinion of Grizz about his game. Nothing bad, honestly!
- I wonder if they can ban you for swearing here? I hope not..
- I mean, the very fact that Dave himself remembers all his past lives tells us that there may be countless such outcomes as the "True Ending" when you collect medallions, and after each such visit, Dave's psyche will break down more and more often, and it will all come to the flesh to the point that he will begin to remember all the lives he has lived much earlier than he collects all the medallions, for example, when he first interacts with Vault, or when he first meets Oswin or Thanatos, and then even earlier, when he just gets on the bus or sees Liam for the first time, and I can one hundred percent to guarantee that all this will come to the point that he will remember all his lives when he first met Roswell as a child, and at some point he will have a choice, to continue repeating this whole vicious circle or to nip it in the bud, removing the cause and effect of everything or not, but when he accepts his own the solution, he will have several paths again, Good, Neutral and Nightmarish.
- And with all this, I boldly declare that this game is good, very good, with a well-thought-out plot and mentally unhealthy characters! You did a great job, Grizz!
😜 -👌👍💪
🥲 - Poor, poor Dave, he has no idea yet that the path he is following is just the beginning of his long and inconsolable fate.
- SPOILERS!!!
Im trying look for the path for that trauma Pic but I cant get It. I need help, please, I think It happens in Orlando route, but Im not sure.
I suppose Dave have to go with Oswind to visit to Memphis, but when I reach 23th day, Dave always send to Dean instead himself and so I never can reach that trauma
Saw there was talks of a possible Sprite rework is that still happening?
Also many unfinished cgs?
Should I wait to play once things are completed or?
The cg's aren't done yet, currently Grizz is working on the dean rewrite. But if you're thinking of playing the itch.io version it isn't currently being updated while Grizz works on getting everything finished up. The itch.io version is the complete BETA version. All updates are currently just on patreon that you can get access to for £1 a month.
this is from october so i think its okay to post but yeah the sprites are going great
Patreon updates have all the new sprites? If so I'm in.
They haven't been put in yet Ghostlink is still working on them
- Okay, I think there's no point in keeping a pig in a poke and I'll ask the logical question, When did David die? Judging by the stories at the beginning, Tyson said that this happened two years ago, further along the plot it is told that he died either a year ago or a little more than a year ago, but can we at least be a little more specific? Even if we compare the fact that the events of the novel take place on July 15, 2019, it turns out that David died in 2017-2018??? Please give me an answer😭
It's a year and a half (ish) prior to the events of the game from memory. I never had set dates from when anything takes place, so I don't know where you're pulling July 15 2019 from.
- Well, as for me, it is natural to assume that if there are no set dates in the game, then it is logical to assume that events unfold exactly on the release date of the game itself😕
- In any case, thank you for the explanation😁
- SPOILERS!!!
- I have a theory that Dave is the hundredth child on whom Oswin tested his serum and several factors lead to this.
First, Dave's coat color is paler than his parents', as if he died at the time of the serum test, but then came back to life (too biased and even slightly racist factor😝)
Second: the dates of the serum tests and age, judging from the fact that Rosewell was born on the day of the serum test, and he was eighteen at the time of the trip to the mansion, and Dave was nineteen, then Dave was already a year old at the time of the serum test (that's just I do not know the reason why Carol allowed the serum tests on Dave and so that David didn't know about it, or David also knew about it, but carefully hid it, the devil knows🤷)
Third: Dave is a pure anomaly, there were several times when he was almost killed, but he miraculously survived, however, nothing in this world happens without cause and effect, I explain, the first time David prevented Dave's death and sacrificed himself, the second time Dave himself saw Two moments of his death, one of which has nothing to do with his current iteration, and the second showed him either the future that has yet to happen, or the past in which it already happened, where Jack stabbed Dave on Memphis' orders (and here I also have no idea how this should lead to serum tests, but if if so, it means that Dave was born in a shirt and he survived three times, and as for me, big Thanatos should have a lot of fire in one place, if you understand me😎)
- Well, in conclusion, I want to note that if Dave was not the hundredth test subject, then it should be sooner In total, Jack, two factors in particular indicate this.
First: his eyes with black whites.
Second: age, although this is not really mentioned in the game, but Jack should not be younger than the same Dominic (and Dom, as I understand it, is the same age as Hoss, who is about twenty years old)
This is the end of the theory, and whoever does not understand will understand😜
The answer to that is in the vn and it's not really hidden i dont think.
- Really? I think I missed this part, but can you tell me which way and on which day it was mentioned, please?
i dont remember exactly its either the path where you kill everyone as fast as possible or path C, i think. it could also just be on a certain character route, but i cant say which it could be since that would spoil the answer.
- Okay, we'll try to search, thanks for the answer!
- Grizz, my question is, which of the characters wears shoes?
They all do, just not all the time.
- Oh, that explains a lot😓
- Thanks for the answer.
- SPOILERS =)
- Dave is a Reaper who is always followed by Death ;)
- Redesign :}
Honestly I love at the beginning how it gives you the illusion of free will and name choice only to shoot it down with coffee
The coffee is a way of getting affection with the boys.
Use 'Dave' to get +1 affection with everyone. You can use any of the friends names to get unique dialogue and +1 affection with that person (names must be capitalised).
Theres some others just for dialogue like 'Timber' and 'Chase', i dont know them all
- S-So, uh... What kind of questions can you ask Oswin on the eighth day? Like what if I tell him Thanatos's name even though Dave shouldn't know about him in the story? Or ask Oswin about Dave's parents, because Dave also shouldn't have known that his parents were both in this mansion. It just seems to me that it would be much more interesting if the reaction of characters like Oz was more harsh about this. Just imagine! A hyena guy comes to your mansion who suddenly enters the necessary passwords from the vault one by one and also knows about things that he shouldn't know about! If I were Oswin, I'd go crazy myself!
so I'm been watching Keith Ballard's LP of Password and a recurring critique is that none of the characters have a unique voice, they all speak of everything in the same manner, so I would like to help fix that, with my completely unqualified advice based on amateur knowledge of linguistic psychology, I will say which way I think the characters would speak based of their personalities, and hopefully would help make their voices distinct if implemented, maybe, I'm not a writer so who knows
Orlando, Hoss, and Oswin: Syllogistic Form (Given X, then Y; If-then statements, conditional logic); Declarative Form (Sentences are declared as clear-cut statements, with closure);
Orlando and Hoss: Persuasive Cadence (Pacing, word choice, and delivery meant to maximize affect); Familiar Tone (Friendly, colloquial tone to invoke relatability and camaraderie); but how to make Orlando and Hoss' voices distinct from each other?
Oswin: Blunt Delivery (Matter-of-fact language, straightforward and unadorned); Avalanching Facts (Communication via an impersonal series of causal events news anchor style);
Dave and Dean: Self-referencing ("I" language, subjective opinion/belief-centered grammar); Terseness (Brief, minimalist language, stating things statically without much elaboration);
Dave: Ontological Clarifying (Heavy time spent defining initial "terms" and avoiding equivocations); Semantic Disclaimers (Preemptive addressing of common misunderstandings, to ensure comprehension);
Dean: Self-revealing language (Candid details of personal life, oversharing); Direct affirmation of self-properties (Declaring what one is directly, without speculation);
Tyson: Short Phrases (With quick follow-ups); Casual language (Informal tone and style); Vivid Realism (Description of objects/experiences in visceral detail, highlighting the overall feeling evoked); Trendy Language (On-trend slang words and references);
Roswell, Sal, and Benson: Dense Information (Reference-rich, information-heavy sentences); Long Elaborations (Prolonged backstories, long paragraphs, and buildup);
Benson: Backstory & Context (Thorough setup and backstory provided for a given point or topic); Step-by-Step Elaboration (Explanations that follow a brick-by-brick narrative sequence);
Roswell and Sal: Convergent Events (Rather than one linear chronology, the past is explained as events crossing paths); Cross-Domain Synthesis (Tying different domains/layers into the present topic, as real or as metaphors); but how to make Roswell and Sal's voices distinct from each other?
this is all probably bullshit, I would appreciate it if someone who actually knows how to write dialogue would give their 2 cents
i dont really get the point but i'm also tired so wtf. Is the problem you want voice acting or is it just because it's plain text without some mannerisms like slovenly speech?
If its the mannerisms thing the reason is most likely to keep things plain and simple to read. Grizz is australian and some people had problems with the text early on so he changed it all to american. Putting regional colloquialisms into the story would just make it harder for people to follow or understand and in a murder mystery that you need to solve that can be alienating.
By "voice" he's talking about a term in the writing and literary world to refer to how a character's personality and psychology is shown through their choice of words; how they express, what they express, etc.
*Not* accent, dialect, or colloquialisms.
Typically, if every character talks the same, that might not be considered the best dialogue. Though that being a problem in Password is OP's opinion, not mine.
I want to make a video on this game so badly. Just got to wait for the next update so it can feel fresh lol
I don't know how far away the next public build is, but the next one will likely be the first one until it goes full release; just need to clean up Dean's route first.
Awesome, can't wait! ^^
I still would love to make videos on this amazing VN, if that is ok?
Oh sure, go for it.
Awesome!! Thank you ^^
I'm really enjoying password. Very good writing and story building. Thank you it's been a real pleasure even if it is intense and scary. Especially when it guessed my real name. 😁
🥰🥰
🤔 - In what sense is the real name?
Is it possible to recover my save data? My old device wont work and my save is on there. Is there a way to get back to the point I was at or change a file to match my old file? I tried usong a save editor but its too complex and the game crashed when i loaded the edited save.
Given no save editor should exist, that's probably why the game crashed. If you're able to access your old device at all, there's a chance your saves are also backed up in %APP DATA%. Failing that, you'll just have to use the skip options available in-game to speed through what you've already seen and get back to where you were.
I am STRUGGLING. Am I just dumb? How do I start path b??
Reveal Oswin when given the opportunity shortly after saving Benson.
I wonder when the next update is coming out. Or the full releas
Full release is still a while off, Updates happen monthly on Patreon.
I shall remember to subscribe to said patreon then :3
Hm in my honest opinion this game needs an editor and a rewrite. Lots of days where the game drags on with nothing going on.
That's what's planned for the next stage. Dean rewrite is happening on the Patreon side currently and once that's done a lot of things are being culled for expediency.
Well, I finally finished the main story and I'm kind of sad that the story is over, I really liked the characters, they are very charismatic, in relation to the story it's very good, the password mechanics work well and it's cool when you discover the passwords by yourself , in relation to the ending:
SPOILER!!!!!
Dave getting memories from other timelines was something I was already expecting but it was cool to see anyway, there were some things I wanted answered, like what the big Thatanos was, what happened to Orlando's father in the P timeline, but nothing that ruins the game in relation to Taison being the Canonical route, I'm happy and sad, I like Taison, but David and Orlando will always be canonical in my heart, excellent game.