In this version whenever i'm trying to play its taking up all of my CPU's processing power. Its causing the game to lag quite a bit. my cpu is an intel core i5-7600K @ 3.8GHz. I have tried it on minimal and maximum settings and its still the same.
Customers asking for Titanium will accept anything you give them, provided it is a lower quality (and price range within their budget) than Titanium.
Example
Customer asks for Adelite Greatsword
You already have an Iron Greatsword on hand.
You can hand them the iron Greatsword, You won't get a "Customer Type" (Customer's Type) bonus
You cannot, however, Exceed their price range. If they ask for Copper, You must give them Copper, They cannot afford Tin or better - Logically.
Example again - 1 Titanium ingot is 100 gold, If they ask for a Titanium Greatsword - They're prepared to spend around abouts 400gold give or take.
They can afford anything under 400 gold.
If they ask for Iron Greatsword - which is like... ridiculously less than that, They won't be able to afford even a Titanium dagger, Let alone a more expensive greatsword - heck they probably can't even afford an Adelite dagger.
hmmm..... Maybe I'm wrong on that. Ugh... I dunno. So much confusion between my first save and my second save now.
Literally had the "Adelite" great(hammer) customer - But he refused even Copper.
I suppose maybe if they specify to the detail "grip - head type" they absolutely won't accept a metal that isn't the type listed? - Or maybe there was some kinda quirk in the code on my first save that was letting me selling (example: Adamantine Instead of requested Titanium)? I dunno. I guess just ignore my post unless it's helped you in some way.
Double ignore.
If they just say "Type" "Item" - and nothing else. You can serve them up whatever.....
Unless Bronze is Higher than Adelite....... Which maybe it is somehow coded higher because having Brass, Bronze or Steel makes it so (insert Metal level/max?) can be purchased? ugh. I dunno.
Anyway.
Had a customer ask for Mithril One hand Hammer, Nothing specific past that,
Sold him an Adelite One Hand Hammer - cause I didn't have enough Mithril... (that's a lie, I could've smelted down a sword i'd just made... but I didn't want to...) He took it and paid/left
Edit - ignore the bronze higher than adelite - forgot I tried to pass off a Copper replacement for the Adelite one previously, which is definitely lower. So I'm just being stupid at this point.
If they go "Mithril one hand hammer, with an uncommon grip, and a mace head" They will /not/ accept Adelite/copper (comparison, replace mithril one hand with Adelite great, and adelite/copper with bronze/copper and I've "verified" that rejection
If they go "Mithril One hand hammer" They, as I just verified, will accept "Adelite one hand hammer"
interesting... I started anew and the shield at the alter is now.... Iron...? looking.. maybe steel...However.. My copper hammer cannot smack off the handles this time....
Does maybe "Initial spawn" start it as "just an object"
but then saving and reloading maybe turns it into a "Shield with no defined ingots, with a hand grip and wrist grip"? that it then automatically makes Copper because its undefined?... Cause honestly, I didn't really remember it being copper looking in the first place either, I only remember seeing the copper every other time I paid attention to it, which was after reloads...
Or has it been made that you need a hammer of quality or better to break down items, to allow for giving of "better items" than hammer, which would have to be turned away (can't be repaired/dismantled) or just "can't be dismantled into something that the player can exploit" (Note, the first part is a "this is kinda just introduced thing" for the event of possible repair in the future - not saying there's actual repairs in current version (which I do not know if there is or isn't, but I haven't seen it))
Is it also possible the heater shield is randomized?
Edit - Note: the shield pre-boss, pre-reload as it spawned immediately after a fresh start, not even 1 day of rest - Is non-physical, I can't smack myself at all, I can't walk on it, I can't pull it into myself, or anything. And I literally just started so I have no way yet of testing for "Post-boss"
edit 2- Reloading Converts the Iron-y looking Heater shield into a Copper, physical shield - Confirmed. I went off to get crystals and all the loots and stuff to bring back, had a save and reload in the meantime - and came back - I can now walk ontop of the shield, its rim is distinctly copper looking, not chrome/iron looking.
and I can. Indeed, Stand on it, and grab, and levitate into the air, like a magic carpet.
So I guess "shield with no physical/defined ingots" is quite likely to be the "fact" for that, and reload looks at it in the file and reads "No defined ingot? the fudge? Uhhh... I guess I'll just make it copper... "
Finally tested selling a Double-smelt Bronze (created a bunch of bronze via combining tin and copper - then REsmelted the created bronze (to produce "cooled Bronze ore" in the smelter) into new bronze ingots and attempted to make items - A customer finally asked for "A greathammer" no specificity - Prompted pawned a Bronze one on him and he paid 18copper (the handle)
So Yeah. Busted that Idea. Alloy still just priceless - Best to just use them for your own tools in order to mine higher and sell stronger metals.
Though... I suppose the problem may still be that its Bronze... Even though Bronze is a much more amazing metal than tin alone... I could see how /maybbbee/ a particular person might go "But balance" and "you're just going to skip Tin, Iron /etc tiers if you get tin and then make bronze items!" and maybe Steel and/or Brass have values... I've still never had enough Steel or Brass on hand at any given time to have the necessary requested item - and for it to be specifically requested...
Like I've tried pawning Steel or Brass (or bronze) on a say, titanium/adamantine, request. Didn't fly, at least, not that I can remember.
And when they ask for "A" something - and not "metal" something - It's almost always a 3-ingot item, and never at a time I have anything to try - Bronze is easy enough once you have tin/money - but "a" is rare among rare.
It has occurred to me that the moments in which a customer is asking for "a"/"That" (no metal type) "weapon"
That they're actually probably asking for "Brass" "Bronze" or "Steel" - Which seem "high enough" on the "metal" "tiers" when you equip their hammer to allow customers to ask for things like Adelite and Mithril (I currently have a Steel Hammer, and have been getting at least Mithril Requests)
I just attempted to Pawn a Steel Dagger (finally a dagger request which I can easily provide Brass or Steel for) for a "Make me a dagger please!" - And he won't accept it.
This is why It's occurred to me that maybe they don't request "blank" metals at all, and that the Brass, Bronze, and Steel requests are simply as incomplete/broken as their prices. - and in reality - I've just been "underlevel" of a "requested type" thus able to sell.. not "random type"
Momentarily will attempt Brass first - Which I will assume to be the Lowest of the three alloys, and then Bronze, if I still have the chance, To see if either of these two grant "type" bonus - and/or Sell.
If he accepts Brass, but no type bonus, and Brass is indeed the lowest quality alloy (which I can't say it is for sure) - Then that means it must've been Bronze.... cause otherwise I don't see why NPCs would accept literally anything else I can currently provide for these, but not Steel - which I assume to be the highest.
He accepted Brass, But still refused Steel - No Specificity or Type Bonus - So I have to assume based on that, He was asking for Bronze dagger - and the game simply couldn't actually allow him to say "Bronze" and that that determines what level of metal tier is "acceptable" - likely based on what Customers can ask for/you can mine for with said Alloys.... pretty sure brass was able to mine up to Iron... Dunno about Bronze, Steel can clearly sell up to at least Mithril.
For the random reader - "Type" bonus seems to be generated any time you accomplish an order with the "requested type" of Metal.
Example - Iron greatsword - "Customer type" - - - - 5 silver (Subtotal was about 30silver, grand total was 40silver~)
Copper Greathammer - customer type -- - - 5 copper (Subtotal was about 44copper grand total was 59 copper)
However on a one hand hammer request (no type that i could see) I sold a mithril mace - for 2g and some change (subtotal and total, but more) - And gained no Type bonus, Which I assumed/chalked up to the fact they didn't request a type.
BBBuuuuttt...
Now that I had a Request for "Dagger" no type
And couldn't pawn a Steel Dagger on them, but could pawn Brass, with no customer type bonus still
It wouldn't make much sense for "No type" to reject "any" type, let alone specifically steel.
Thus I must assume I was getting no "type bonus" because the NPC was actually Requesting an Alloy name which is registered "above" the metal I was presenting at any given time - and since I didn't provide that alloy - I got no bonus.
Now I guess I'll need to make sure I have Steel, Bronze, and Brass on hand in at least 3 ingots - so I can go Steel -> Bronze -> Brass and see if I get a type bonus and what that bonus is the next time someone asks with "no type" listed...
Also just had an Adamantine Request with Steel hammer/Mithril Pick. - So. Uh. Yeah. It goes up to at least that.... Might have to go and find some more coal veins and just equip a steel pick... since I'm clearly using an inferior pick...
Update to the Update.
on save and reload - 5k was no longer enough strength.
and increasing it another 1k didn't do squat.
I'll have to try and finagle (Wow i have literally been spelling that wrong like, my entire life.... Course.. I never knew how to spell it in the first place and didn't think it was a real word/more than slang - but hey!) with it again to see if I can alleviate that issue....
Also My computer did something weird and the game ended up getting closed before I saved so I dunno what the next result of "reload" will bring.
Update 3. four.. 9.. a billion.
Strength will die if you reload at all. I'm guessing it "breaks" permanently until you reset it manually in the same session - explaining why normally leveling up didn't seem to work, and why even pouring hundreds of stats onto it didn't seem to work.
It needs to be applied all at once to count, and needs to start from fresh - if you save and reload, it'll need to be reset again and started from fresh, again.- But - It won't need billions of points to do it. It just has to be all at one time, in the same sesh
Shield Update
Shield Wood breaks if not completed, I believe. Not entirely too sure on the specifics of this one yet.
but - If you make wood pieces but don't furnish them - save, and reload, they seem to be just as magical carpet ride as the Sword Pedestal's shield will get - AND
You cannot combine them with parts - or at least, Not RIMS... Everything else seems to work fine - Actually, I remember now I saw someone on a Youtube video with that issue.
He thought because he made the wood in the previous version, it was broke
but in reality
It was because he made a few of them, and then saved, updated, and reloaded thus, They were broken because of the reload, not version. - Which is what I'm faced with now - Same version, still broke, cause of reload, I'm only just now figuring out because I've only just now gotten a shield request for something I had.
I had already noticed they had become physical before hand - even tested them, but I didn't feel it was enough to report the bug because I didn't realize they couldn't be finished.
Update to Alloy
Seems to just all be borked - I'm 99% sure the customer I had was asking for Steel (no type given) and I supplied it, but still lacked any satisfying result.
The ingots weren't counted, no price, no bonuses, and most of all, The customer type bonus was not present, not that I can imagine it would be enough to make up for it.
Can still manage to sell Pretty much anything Adamantine or lower usually when they request "no type"
edit - crate update
Both Created crates, and spawned crates - delete ingots if left closed on save/reload.
(spawned currently equal presents - So I tested if wood crates did it too with all my spare bronze, brass, and Steel, since I wasn't losing much. - still cleared (obviously I had to reload since I just talked about a shield earlier))
Note: LEFT CLOSED. They won't delete ingots if they're sitting in an open crate
However.
If A crate detects items inside, It will automatically lid, so don't save and reload twice in a row if you are trying to store ingots for easier movement.
I do not know the entire details of "Automatically lidded" - As when you go to interact with it, It "fails" the first time - as if you're actually closing it cause it was last left on "open", and then you open it with the second interaction.
Going to consider this a bug and add it here.
The Present crate's sides - are very "thin" and it stands a few hairs taller than the old wooden crate
Thus.
They hold more Material, Which is great.
However.
That means the Wood crates hold less, And is not great, as you can only make wood crates, with very thick side-walls, and standing a bit shorter than the present, for a massively reduced interior/locking space. - And that also implies that if they're not changed and reverted back to that later on (the present crates) then the player will lose that additional space that they've now been acquainted with and become accustomed to.
Okay... so...
It kiiiiiinndda looks like "Assembled items break on reload" is still kinda a bug... I dunno. I honestly ain't sure when they break, I swore one or two times I reloaded, they worked, but definitely not this time.
Had a bunch of iron swords I'd made spamming swords against the sword pedestal that didn't have a reaction, So I tossed em up on the shelves - but hadn't had a sword request since that time, always bigger or smaller, or, not a sword.
But this time I had "Iron one hand sword" .. with like 8 swords in front of him.. I took a couple and held them up to his face with no reaction from his looking or anything, went back, dismantled one, reassembled it with all the same pieces, and out he went, purchasing it immediately.
So...
Seems like at least these ones, Broke.
Also did I mention that when you create a shield, its non solid, if yo reload its solid.
However. If you create a shield, non solid, and Put a rim on it, It seems to immediately become solid, no reload required
A completed shield definitely becomes solid, capable of flying carpet rides.
Well.
I am mentioning it now. there. I mentioned it.
Oh. I'm in the process of testing Coal and Iron >.>...
My smelter ate a piece of coal because I swiped it too close to the front by accident when pulling it from the ore pile to add to the fuel side.
Nonedit edit - Result - Coal is eaten by the smelter- - - as it, I guess, Acts like the ore that comes from it, Carbon ore, but once it gets smelted, it isn't carbon, so it doesn't combine with iron, Only pops a non-existent coal/carbon bar, and wastes it.
So that's a bug.
I wouldn't personally mind if you just used coal as carbon - since it is essentially the same - but - It doesn't work as it is.
Perhaps.
Its a really massive monstrous bug too.
Perhaps Coal has the triggers of "auto-smelt" (Have it in the furnance, turn furnace on, and it will automatically start smelting it, no need to have it on and insert it after. - Which Carbon must have done.)
and Carbon has all the triggers to combine or be resmelted.
But.
more importantly....
Coal may be eaten from the fuel... not saying/sure it is, YET but it might explain why it felt like the amount of coal I had got used too fast at times... Perhaps even when saving/reloading, it might get lodged in the boundary and then eaten by the smelter
looks like there's places in the shop where you can get stuck... Gonna try slipcor's 0.0.82 player rotation reset thingy and hope for the best, not too terribly worried as it stands for losing out though, was kinda already back at titanium.. pretty easy to do with dat chest.
But yeah, Specifically. The posts are now more solid, but the player and often times get caught on them, and eventually, if immediate action isn't taken, slide into them enough to /really/ need to take action, and then, shortly after, Be stucked, seemingly hoisted off the ground enough that there's no traction
Reloading doesn't help - unless you haven't saved since getting stuck, which often won't be the case cause auto save when youopen menu after certain events/intervals.
Oh
You can make a Customer who wants a shield to go the eff away too, btw.
However.
Only if you do it "right"
You have to only supply them with either a shield, or the weapon, Then dismiss them. They won't give you back the item they've taken, but they will pay for it and only it.
You can get away with supply them with awesome shields worth 5-6 ingots worth (bonuses) of a great metal - and with, since usually they won't ask for a specific type of shield, only weapon - like a copper hammer and a round shield - package them a mithril shield and say "GTFO of my shop" and boom, You sold a handful of Mithril despite the pitiful request.
And you won't have to reload to get rid of them.
Plus in the event of Titanium... It's better to do this as you're very very likely to zero out your funds if you sell a 3ingot titanium weapon and a 5 ingot titanium shield.
Edit - Not sure if the Game fixed my position... or if the save fixer did... The save fixer probably did? I mean. the world is bigger.. so it stands to reason the position information may be slightly off due to that.
when I tried to get unstuck before, I only tried to switch to sandbox, move a bit, and switch back, remained stuck.
Obviously when I run Slipcor's fixer, I have to exit, which I didn't do previously.. I dunno if that fixed, but running the save fixer didn't "bork everything into a living hell" in game. and I was definitely not stuck after save fixer and restarting the game (But I wasn't in bedroom, I was near the middle of the yard in back, between gate, oil, and delivery zone)
Grips look like they remain stolen because they don't lose their Identity on combination. Guards however. do.
Stolen Guard + Stolen Grip -> Dismantle -> Guard + Stolen Grip
Stolen Guard + Grip -> Dismantle -> Guard + Grip
Guard + Stolen Grip -> Dismantle -. Guard + stolen grip
Sword + Stolen Guard + Stolen Grip -> dismantle -> sword, guard, stolen grip
So if there's a way to make the grip momentarily forget itself, It would likely clear the status, but otherwise, grips = hard to steal - everything else = easy peasy basically forgets regardless. - i.e I'm not even sure it remembers its stolen even if you don't dismantle it - since you can't even see "Stolen" before dismantling, because you only see the grip, and the grip wasn't stolen.
Major Bugo
Geoff can be broken, badly.
I can see how it slipped by - Most would think "oh there's no crate here, I need to carry this delivery box out of the shop" before breaking it
But.
If you break it in the shop because you were already stealing other items, and thus had a crate inside his shop
The Calculator for what you owe him will go flipping nuts.
I just bought an entire store floor for zero copper, Well. Everything but the poles. Actually made money off of it too. - I think it gave me the poles I had added in return gold, and doesn't have the ability to show negative value... managed to buy 6 poles for like 48 copper at one point... not sure entirely what all it remembers in pricing, if its a total opened in shop thing, or what.
Bug updates. Looks like there's a specific small window if you close the shop after a customer - that they're no able to recover from.
My guess is....
Directly at the shop - there's an NPC correction path
But once on the road, there's not an NPC correction path existing outside of the path-proper - Thus, there's no pathing for them and they're dismissed from being a customer, so they stop using the customer exit pathing or something....
So if they're right by your fence, and not yet on the road, Do not Close shop you should probably wait to close shop when you can verify they've despawned, or while the other is spawning - as I imagine there's a fair bit of "NPC correction" on the main road they walk until they get to the shop - because you can at any point, close shop, and it makes the most sense for the correction to exist there, as they will guaranteedly be on that path for a good majority of their existence._____________
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Geoff and Stealing.
Turns out. If you steal, currently, They forget they're stolen on reload (**** At least they do if they're in your shop)
I had a pile of stolen handles I kept near the forge for my own tools because of the earlier stealing experiments. But when I ran into the Shop customer pathing error earlier, I had to, unfortunately, reload, no choice, which was not what I wanted to do.
Unfortunately. I'm going to have to again pretty much immediately, because on day 8, I finally got one of the customers to demand from me an Adamantine Sword - And I was like Wooo, Express rich! GET OUT OF HERE YOU SCAMP :D (he wanted a shield too, But I ignored that and dismissed him after the sword.)
Hastily once he was out of my door way, I closed and then bought three new adamantine ingots and made a pick, where I saw the stolen handles were no longer stolen, all of them, not just one stray that could've been excused as a handle that got knocked over there.
You may be wondering, or may not if you remember my earlier bug findings... How did a customer request adamantine.
Well.
I got an adamantine ingot, and a steel ingot, from the secret loot chest. - and then when I had to reload - I got another adamantine ingot... oh and another steel but at that point that didn't matter.
Earlier before the reload I'd managed to sell enough for /one/ tin ingot. Which I promptly scrapped together with a copper ingot, and gave myself 2 bronze ingots to make a new hammer with, and was biding my time waiting for someone to ask for a dagger or an adamantine dagger - which then escalated to an adamantine sword when I got the second ingot.
ANYWAY....Stealing just became a matter of reloading and then its duper easy.
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Also side note, we'll see in the next reload. But it looks like the sword pedestal's shield will remain iron/whatever if it isn't in the shop's radius on reload....
Or maybe it was because of me tampering with it that it became permanent....
I took it home and since I had 1 steel and 1 adamantine, I obviously tried to make a boss out of those and attach it to it, which worked.... to attach it... but it basically has no identity. It just shows up as "Adamantine" or "Steel" no shield, etc.
The Boss can be re-detached at that point and it'll go back to be unnamed entirely. - Usually when it is left unnamed entirely and reload, it changed to copper, where the handles could also be knocked off, but not the rim, and it still wouldn't understand what the shield was
Oh.
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Smelter bug, user error
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when you toss items into the smelter, they can creater ores, which can be grabbed and dragged out of the smelter if the smelter isn't "up to heat" - They won't generally make ores if the smelter is already cooking at "smelting" heat.
Anyway. If for instance. You have a STEEL boss that you turn the smelter on for, and while its heating up, take the steel ore out and play around with it. The Smelter will... technically.. break... - It won't finish smelting the ore, that's for sure, and it won't fully shut off, that's for sure, It will likely console the steel ore if you try to put it back, but it won't make anything from it. or even try.
It's hard to say if there's not a way to recover from this user error - But the bug itself of perpetual smelter can be fixed by sticking something else in while it's on.
It'll try and break it down into ores and seems to try and start the heating up process over again, and then will only finish that item, and shut back off. Thus fixing the smelter bug.
The user error obviously the steel ingot is gone in /that/ scenario - but I do not know if it could be fixed by sticking an ore/item in that the smelter recognizes, and then while its producing that ingot, stick the steel in that it initially started with.- I imagine it might.. but I don't have the option to test that.
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I've probably mentioned this before, and assuming I had is the reason I haven't mentioned it again. but just in case.
Something I saw in 0.0.82 was that if the smelter was producing an ingot, the fuel could be turned off, and it would finish producing that one ingot - and then require it to be turned on briefly to produce the next ingot - meaning you could save a minute amount of fuel with the additional tedium of managing the on off switch in timing with the ingots
ores to smelt -> Smelter on till ingot process begins -> Ingot process begins for first ingot -> smelter can be turned off -> Ingot process finishes for first ingot -> Stop -> Smelter toggled quickly on and then immediately off again -> Ingot process begins for next ingot -> Process finish -> stop -> repeat.
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Not necessarily a bug....
but.. I've yet to see Zinc Ores.... vein or otherwise... do they actually exist? or is only the Brass ingot obtainable and only via that chest...? carbon and the easy one, Tin, exist, very easily so, but Not a single vein seen of zinc, neither in shop nor sandbox.
OH!
well then oh shit!
Turns out the experiment I was about to run on the Sword Pedestal shield was already proven.
Ignore what I said about it needed to be in the shop zone.
Turns out That if you attach a boss to it, It'll tag it with that metal.
the Last boss I attached to it was Steel, so it remained steel looking.
Had I attached the Adamantine to it and been forced to reload, It would've changed the entire thing to adamantine, And I just knocked off the handles as if it was copper/reloaded - and they're steel - which means they could've been two additional free Adamantine ingots had I left it adamantine. - curse my experimenting ways not making adamantine be the final test...
So Now I have two steel handles - the rim and board still aren't reclaimable or anything. and the only reason I figured this out before reloading, was cause I was about to attach Mithril boss to it from the leftover funds from selling Adamantine sword/making pick - see if I could leave the mithril boss attached to it at the pedestal and see if it would "become a shield" on reload.
The boss wouldn't attach. leading me to try and dismantle it again.
When I had the second customer stuck. I went ahead and decided I was going to try in-game New Game - Which before, was causing the game to freeze - Going back to the main menu for any reason after boot-up caused freezing, heck, 1/4th of the times it boots up, it stops, either in fade in or in some other spot.....
But this is just visual proof if you use the 1st day, go and grab the secret chest - Get lucky***** you could make a titanium or mithril boss or something, and boom. a single lucky ingot turns into three.
and I got a Brass ingot as the other item in the chest. Not that the two of them could've equated to the three of these anyway....
I did try leaving the boss on the shield this time around - as it obviously is noticeable above. Clearly did not change anything one way or the other... The reason I wanted to try leaving it on is because it says "Mithril" with it on, but goes back to being ( ) with it off. so I wanted to see if that would somehow affect it becoming a full blown shield or not, or possibly even causing it to delete itself as an error.
of course. Thanks to resmelt - these three little beauts can become a pick or anything a customer might ask for (since I have bronze and they'll at least ask for Adamantine as previously mentioned) (oh, yeah, Totally made hundreds stealing from Geoff. Quite easy once you know how it functions. - I think reloading clears it back to zero, not that it matters ...
It has been acknowledged
You can reload to clear that
However.
you could also do one of the following.
Yea if you get non-specific specified grip - Just dismiss them - They're currently no good to you, just a waste of parts (well I mean you'll get exp but yeah)
It seems all alloys are scripted somehow above Titanium, while not quite actually being so.
Example:
If you have an Alloy hammer - any, alloy hammer - Customers will request anything "That hammer or below" - same with any other hammer - But even if its a Brass hammer - You'll get fairly high level requests, possibly even sometimes titanium requests.
But at the same time.
Brass can only mine so much
Bronze can only mine so much
and Steel can mine up to I believe Mithril - Not 100% sure on that - I might have tested and mentioned in a different post, but can't recollect it.
So they act like they're better metals than Titanium
They Perform like they're about what you'd expect from their alloy components
But then after all that.
They Sell like they don't exist yet. - No price seems to be set for them, despite being above titanium seemingly
And then there are times when it would seem like they /do/ have their own specific levels ... Like....
Okay remember I said brass sometimes gets Titanium requests?
Well if they requested "brass" (no specified metal) - despite brass allowing for titanium requests
You wouldn't be able to give them a titanium item.
but as long as they didn't specify grip/head - You could give them anything brass can mine. <- (I believe, and, that's what it /should/ be. what it can mine is what it can sell and what customers should ask for, nothing more)
Anywho.
If they break into specifics of head/grip - 9/10 of the times, just send them away, they usually not worth the trouble.
Switching to a Mithril/Titanium/Etc hammer may reduce the number of "blank" requests you get - This is both a blessing and a curse - as a nonspecific-unspecified request can be milked for all the possible coins - and sometimes the requests you want can be few and far inbetween. - and of course, the thing we were just talking about is the curse.
Oh I know they alloy picks don't mine up to Titanium - but the Alloy hammers cause Customers to Buy up to Alloy - which believes itself to be higher than Titanium.
I don't think Zinc ore actually exists, At least, I haven't found it yet either - but Brass Ingots can be found at random - There's a specific spot on the map that has a chance of generating 2 grips, 1 grip 1 random any ingot, or 2 ingots (any) - Every reload. - There's a chance to get titanium steel etc. - literally any ingot.
I tried to clarify that I think - That The Picks can only mine up to a very limited seemingly accurate level - Like That's what allll the levels should be.
But the Hammer cause Customers to pop in asking for everything under the sun. - though It doesn't always let you sell titanium to the "Blank" (no metal type) orders. - which I assume means that not every "blank" is the same and not every alloy will "accept" titanium - Like I would assume Brass wouldn't, but even though Steel can't mine titanium, steel seems to be able to accept titanium - And both brass and steel hammers would allow customers to ask for titanium, specifically.
It's a known persisting glitch from the previous version, there's a few bugs from previous build that haven't been solved yet, and some that were solved, or thought to be, and have managed to weasel back in other ways
edit
As the previous version had it suggested as well - I recommend organizing your shop to house tool-heads/parts and grips ready to be finished rather than pre-assembled so that you do not run into this issue of item's "breaking"
Do not. However.
Construct a Wood Shield part and keep it on hand.
On Reload - Shields not only break like items
but the wood part tends to become solid, and once that happens, it is useless - May not always happen, but won't ever happen if you wait to do the wood part last
To start you'll need a new hammer (almost) every time you get to a new metal - Customer buy what your hammer level is or cheaper - Alloys are an exception, which unlock all metals (seemingly)
Additionally. if You're trying to hit heated ingots on the anvil and its not connecting or it is but its not making the right item associated with the right number of ingots, Then something may be in the way of the anvil, or, the anvil may have accidentally swallowed a heated ingot at some point or encountered a hiccup where it assumes it has.
I don't readily know ways to fix this - But you can try taking a pole grip and swishing it around inside the anvil, then removing it from the area, or using your crates near the anvil and seeing if you get a reaction that allows you to close it, and then trying to pull it away.
If you know you have a bunch of objects near the anvil, Simply first try clearing the space of these objects, An item may not even appear close enough to the anvil to count, but in reality, its hitbox/connection triggers are actually in the way and you just can't see it (possibly)
Then the next time you put up ingots open the radial and ensure the correct Group is /possible/ even if it is selected.
You'll see "Large Blades" for example if you have 3 heated ingot on the anvil and go to select blades.
If you see "Large blades" and only have 2 ingots on there - The anvil must assume there's another despite there not being. (Again, Aside from fishing around into a solid object, I don't really know what to do here)
If you have 3 on there and only see "normal" or "Small" - then something is blocking the Anvil from reacting properly to the other ingots. - Example - If an item is sitting ontop of one of the ingots - The anvil will not react properly. This is a readily apparent example - But It's possible a grip could be near by and causing an issue too, even not being near the top of the anvil.
I dunno if you've seen other posts yet where this was addressed, but
My Recommendation on Customers asking for shields is to only provide them with a shield, or only with a weapon, and not both.
The game can be saved after they pay and you can reload to clear stuck npcs away - but - If you only give them one or the other, and not both, you can simply dismiss the customer with the X button that you see when looking at them, and they will pay for whatever you gave them.
I assume, while it isn't verified as I don't really know code and haven't really seen it.
That its essentially an issue with how new the change is - More than likely, The Customer is told to "Wait for item" - normally - This would be "satisfied with weapon/item" and they would leave - however a customer asking for item and shield is told "Wait for items" and when they take one they are reinstructed to continue waiting for the other item....
But then they get the other item, and they're reinstructed again, to wait for the other item (which they already have)
While at the same time, they've accomplished "Wait for items" - and thus, begin to "clear out" - Thus their order and X button disappear like they're about to leave, they pay out, but then realize they've been order to "Wait for the other item"
By this time "The other item" is "Null" "N/A" because they have no Order/request - OR - Even if it remembers the other item is "This" - Their request is already "completed" and they no longer can "update" from "waiting" even if they can verify they have the other item.
Either way, They become stuck, indefinitely, because the order is gone, there is no timer, and no X, they can't accept items, because there's either no items that fit their order, which is to say, no order, -- or -- They already have both items, and know they've already accepted it, so they can't take all your iron swords in a single trip to the shop and only pay for one kinda logic.
Anywho. Point being.
If you have only for example
Copper and no Tin.
Sell them the shield - and then dismiss them for the profit of the shield - which is the most profit you can earn "on tier", I believe.
If you have for example - an Alloy hammer, and they request for example, Mithril, but you yourself only own 1-3 adelite ingots and 7 iron ingots - Then if you have enough to give them an Adelite version of the weapon they requested - you'll get more money, so give them that instead, and then dismiss them.
If they instead request "Mithril greathammer - with a (quality) grip...." - Just Dismiss them. unless You can give whatever weapon they're requesting. - As for the Shield, I dunno, You might still be able to give them a shield, but It'd probably be easier to just dismiss them.
Also. If you set the in-game resolution to your desktop resolution, and then select window mode, you'll be able to take screenshots with the print screen key and paste them into Paint and upload them to whatever photo site you fancy using.
The game won't play much different than if you were to have it fullscreen, aside from the difference of Fullscreen = black screen print screen - and Window = visible print screen.
Dasius has been recommending people to simply finish the trade, get the money, then save and reload - this will clear their temporary spawn data
I recommend only selling them one item, and then sending them away.
Make sure they only accept either the weapon, or the shield, and then send them away. - They aren't familiar with "returning" items- and will always pay for what they've taken before leaving - Likely set in place because someone may not finish making the second item before time is up- So the customer still has to pay when they walk off.
Most of the time - a shield will be the choice, as it is 5 ingots worth of value.
But sometimes you may discern that it is more profitable to do the weapon - In cases where you have 1-3 next tier ingots (Only applies if you have an Alloy Hammer or next tier hammer already made and are just waiting to make a sale in the next tier.)
In order to sell items - You need to have a hammer.
What you start with is copper hammer - you sell only copper.
If you make a tin hammer - you sell tin and copper.
If you make a Titanium hammer - you sell any metal in the game.
There's a bit of a "WIP" here though - Due to Alloys being so new.
Brass (Haven't found zinc, but Brass ingots can be obtained for a certain place on the map)
Bronze
And Steel
All will unlock selling more advanced metals than what you currently have.
They will /at least/ ask upwards of Mithril - but it's possible that all 3 alloys will have customers ask all the way up to titanium - The alloy hammers seem to be registered "Above all other metals"
The Alloy picks work seemingly as intended - Brass Pick will only mine up to a certain level - Bronze up to Adelite I believe, maybe only Iron - Steel will mine up to Mithril
Customers that request Alloys (don't exist) - except they technically do - When You have an Alloy Hammer, you'll occassionally have a customer come in asking for "Blank" tool/weapon - No specific Metal is given.
They're actually Asking for Brass, Bronze, Or Steel, At least, they seem to be.
Depending on what they're asking for, You may be able to sell them anything under the sun.
If they're asking for Steel (Seemingly) they'll accept Anything.
If they're Asking for Bronze (Seemingly) they won't accept titanium but eventually they will accept /something/ you can give them, and above Copper.
Brass has the worst options - Seemingly being restricted to Tin or Copper only.
If the Customer asks for "Blank" Tool "Specific Grip/Tool head" - Send them away.
They will only give you exp and be worthless to you. - They will only accept whatever they are asking for, which you cannot hope to fulfill, and even if you managed to fill the order - Alloys are So new, They have no value registered, So they sell for nothing.
It's possible that there's a bit of mixed signals here - and that the "Blanks" are what is supposed to be the "alloys" and the "Alloys" are "separate" thus if you ACTUALLY sold a "Blank" - you'd "actually" sell that specific alloy and actually make a profit - but because "Alloy" somehow is separate and has no price - you sell "Blank" instead..... if that made sense...
Anywho.
Customers will buy what is in their price range - Unless - They specify extensions. - in which case they will /only/ accept what they asked for.
Example
A Customer asks for a Mithril Greathammer.
You can give him an Iron Greathammer, No problem.
You cannot give him an Adamantine or Titanium Greathammer - As these are more expensive.
If a Customer asks for a Mithril Greathammer with a common grip and a large hammer head
You must give him a Mithril Greathammer - The grip/head I believe is negotiable, with the loss of a specificity bonus (10%) - but it /must/ be Mithril.
If you only have an Iron Hammer equipped - They will only buy Iron, Tin, Or copper, Never will they ask for something "More expensive" than your hammer - which is what makes Alloys "Oddities"
The Boss, Wrist Grim, and hand Grip are all on the same Menu.....
It's like Making a Pick axe on Large Axe heads.......oh....
wait....
You've never made a pickaxe either nevermind.
Okay.
PickAXE is an Axe, You take 3 heated ingots, all of the same metal, and open the drop menu to axe heads which will read Large Axe I believe if you have 3 detected heated ingots on the anvil.
Strike it until you get a large axe head, and then strike it again and you'll change it to a pickaxe head.
To SELL Pickaxes, You'll need a 2h grip attached to the head
To USE one, You can make it with 1h grip, 2h grip, and I believe, still polegrip as well. - They can be stolen, the blacksmith won't care and use it all the same
Stolen items cannot be sold.
To create Shield grips, You hit a boss a 2nd and 3rd time
After about 4-6 hits, You get a Shield Boss, Another hit gives you the wrist enarmes I believe, and then the next hit gives you hand enarmes. - You'll need 3 Ingots in total to have all 3, and will need all three plus the Shield rim (total of 5 ingots) to complete a shield, and they must all be matching metal, at least for now.
for Shield rim - also, The Rims appear in the order you see them on the woodworking table - Heater heater round heater heater heater tower etc
Just like with Every blade's alternate form, or switching from axe to pickaxe - you'll have to hit the rim once for every change.
so 4-6 hits and you get heater 1, it won't fit perfectly on the anvil - hit it again and you'll get heater 2 - which will quite likely fall off, depending on if it stayed in the anvil area or flew off into the grass will depend on if you can immediately smack it again to make a round rim, or if you have to pick it up and place it back on the anvil.
to get round shield you'll use about 7 or so hits - Tower will be around 10. Heater is easy since usually they won't ask for a specific number, allowing you to just make Heater 1 and be done with it.
You cannot use Mace/morning star head as personal Hammer
You can sell any small hammer head (including mace/morning star) as a 1h hammer
You can make any blade into a Polearm, Large, normal or Small. - they will make polearms and can only be sold to polearm requests, keep that in mind.
You can sell 1h-grip+ small axe head
You can USE 1h or 2h grip + small axe head (stolen or not) for the Blacksmith's Personal axe, same with the hammer.
I hadn't realized I came off as condescending, on the "accidentallly hammer than axe" section - I originally was going to just compare it to making a Pickaxe, then as I was rereading the statement I realized you were saying you hadn't been able to make one of those either and instead of going back I just started off by describing where to look to make a pickaxe and then how to make one, as well as additional variants for other items....
Any capitalization, bold, and/or italics is only really meant to stress the word/separation.
For Example
The player can make any pickaxe and "use" it- Equip it.
But They can't just sell any old pickaxe, It has to specifically be a 2h grip to give the notification of item creation, and thus have customers able to accept it.
It wasn't meant for anything else.
Sell them one or the other for now, That's the easiest, stay in session, approach.
Hand them either the weapon or the shield and then dismiss them.
Or
You can save and reload when they're stuck after selling them both, but some items may need to be reassembled as a result of doing that, or become unsellable (certain things like the wood part of a shield, when not attached to anything else, become useless on reload)
When I downloaded the new version my character is tilted, pleeeease help me!