Write what you think about the 0.8.2 build - suggestions, thoughts etc
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Monique said this is a temp model, presumably for an actual remodel later.
Why not just use the old drive box model until then..?
i dunno, a durable box to keep things safe seems better than a cardboard one to me, i like it personally.
okay what are we delivering, Trindalas? Drives. very much dura6le metal 6oxes that keep data safe. Those things can survive getting flung all over the place, explosions and fires, getting drowned underwater and getting ran over. I dont think a dura6le 6ox is so needed for something like that
It's more so the fact that the box itself is literally just cardboard, that thing is getting carried through storms over mountains at high speeds by a drone with no protection from the elements and the hashcode paper just slapped on top. The next model seems to be a secure plastic crate with foam slots for drives and a pouch for the hashcode paper.
watching how fast the drone flies and how it almost completely covers the 6ox given the angle of the flight i dou6t that a single droplet is gonna touch that card6oard 6ox, 6ut oh well, i'm still playing on 0.8.1 cuz new pc overloads my 6rain so i shouldn't really put my 2 cents here
Bro is using typing quirks LOL. Anyways, the new boxes look way better imo and make more sense realistically but does it really matter? I cannot imagine feeling so strongly about cardboard boxes full of packing peanuts
In my opinion, I believe that both, the old and new model of the box be used in the final release. Old style found in storage and bunker, and new style purchased and maybe one free in the control room. But no extra credits for turning in the old style box as they are obsolete and have no value. Oh, and the old style boxes, even though cardboard, they could have been plasticized or waxed to keep water from destroying them. Plasticized or waxed cardboard boxes are still used worldwide in the present day fishing industry. But definitely have the hash report inside the old style box.
The cardboard emphasizes how dated the running of the station is, it keeps you in the mind of a boring archiving job .I really like soundscape and physicality of the box. It's probably the key reason I've not gone past 0.8.2.
Super late- I know, but honestly, I disagree almost entirely. The old shoe box with the paper note taped to the top felt really weird, aesthetically. This one at the very least looks like a weather-proof case for tech, and slipping the note inside of it makes a lot more sense than just slapping it on top and hoping it doesn't fly off when the drone flies at Mach speed.
I'll admit, for the people saying they haven't gone past 0.8.2 because of how the box / monitors look, the reasoning feels extremely shallow. They're entitled to their preferences, sure — and I felt the same way, very briefly, almost exclusively because I was attached to the old models. But, the new ones are undeniable much better. I think it's important not to let nostalgia get in the way of the game developing its own identity and improving—it isn't meant to look like an early alpha build forever, and the new design choices aren't bad.
In the latest build, I actually did buy the old shoebox and used it just to store my extra drives that couldn't fit in my drive racks. It feels appropriately makeshift that way, and I think that fits it better than as a delivery medium.
It's not about "the centipede is too scary", it's about "seeing the centipede causes an involuntary physical reaction beyond fear and could have an adverse effect on my physical and mental health." Phobias are not something you can just "get over" or "power through", they're mental illnesses that can be debilitating. The game does not have a focus on centipedes or similar creatures, and the game doesn't tell you it exists, so someone playing would have no idea it's there until they encountered it, triggering a harmful response. This is not about making the game less scary for babies, there's already Ambient mode for that. It's about accessibility.
I don't personally have any phobias, and I still think phobia modes would be a very good accessibility feature. I have a friend whose phobic of centipedes, and he really can't help it, but he loves everything else about the game including the horror / atmospheric aspects. I don't think letting people like that turn off or change how the creepy giant big looks will ruin the game's atmosphere, if you ask me, especially if it's incredibly optional.
I mean, scientifically speaking, you can actually just "get over" phobias and it's a thing people regularly do. Even so, the question is "should someone have to conquer a primal fear response in order to play the game?" and "no" would be a pretty reasonable opinion.
Being that the game is in development, the caves aren't even remotely important to progress, and basically the only way to know about them is to look it up on the wiki, it's probably best to put it on the "nice to have" list and get around to it later on.
an arachnophobia mode would be cool. but not just text or a cube to replace it. these devs are super creative, i can totally see them coming up with something cool that still adds to the incredible atmosphere theyve created. theres alot of possibility, it could even be something humorous.
this I agree with, as much as I love devs for putting in an arcanaphobia mode I don't want it to be replaced with a text box or a floating cube/sphere, because then it kinda takes away from the tone of the game, make a model that would still fit the games tone but isn't a spider
seeing the downvotes as if 4 people would genuinely get inconvienced 6y the existence of "arachopho6ia mode"
Dawg 9 people
I think it's just people thinking "The game is scary, so why should an arachnophobia mode be added?"
There's literally also the warning at the beginning too, that should be more than enough to cover it. In which is, if you can't handle playing the game because of a singular aspect, then you probably shouldn't play the game at all. I've had arachnophobia before, but with proper care and therapy, you can overcome it, so there's really no need for such a “mode” for Voices of the Void for Christ’s sake?
What about thalassophobia? Claustrophobia? Maybe even necrophobia? This is already infantilizing what's supposed to be a serious issue and well, like the definition, an irrational fear of said subject. So again, if you can't handle a centipede mother (felt like I needed to point that out) then like, I don't know, don't visit the caves then, or, worst of all, don't play the game. Then potentially, after all that's said and done, you should get some help to sort out that issue.
Edit: There's also the fact that if you were to introduce something like this, you'd have to also count the roaches as part of it, since centipedes aren't arachnids, they're arthropods. So it'd more or so be something akin to an “Entomophobia “Mode”, but even then, if we want to get really technical, shrimps could also fall into that category as well. (Calling back to the famous “shrimps is bugs” phrase)
Edit #2: Also ostraconophobia, but let's not get too technical here
That shouldn't stop the devs from making the game accessible to more people. Yeah the warning is there but making more people be able to play the game is a benefit to everyone
What's the point of a horror if it's not going to scare you?
In extreme cases, the centipede does not appear unless summoned. And summoning is not a mandatory procedure in the game. Spoiler, the cave is always open during the night and there are no centipedes there at that time.
I'm not sure how this is seemingly lost on you and everyone else arguing in the negative. Lethal Company has been rightly cited as one such example and there's a pretty famous, if dated, other horror game with a well-known arachnophobia mod: System Shock 2. And as stated in one 17-year old discussion thread for that:
This mod isn't for pussies who don't like spiders. They should just get over it. This mod is for people who have an abnormal fear of spiders and therefore cannot play the game."
I am in the former camp, but I can recognize the value in supporting the latter.
I'd rather the devs focus on creating new content instead of trying to appeal to .00000001% of the player population. If they want to do that AFTER the game is fully released then go for it. There's only like 7 people working on this game, so you have to ask which is a bigger priority?
Exactly, I wouldn't care if the mode was in the game, but people saying it's to "make it more accessible" as if it isn't just them pleading to be enabled is crazy to me. I got my own issues and if I can't handle something in games and/or online, I get off the computer and take care of myself? Crazy concept to some people apparently.
Avoidance. Avoiding triggers entirely is not coping. Literal psychologists teach this
Were this some sort of behavioral or environmental trigger that affects a person's daily life I'd be in agreement here but we are discussing a videogame creature the size of a baker's dozen daisy-chained go-karts, inside of a videogame that does not otherwise have a focus on invertebrates.
Lethal Company had a spider filter, Satisfactory had a spider filter, and System Shock 2 had a spider filter (mod) for pretty much the exact same reason; both spooky and non-spooky games with isolated and fairly common severe phobic response triggers. EDF does not have an ant filter that I'm aware of for equally obvious reasons. I'm not going to say it's something the VotV dev should be obligated to fulfill, but it's not an unreasonable option to bring awareness to and leave on the table, and it doesn't need to be shouted down by people advocating for extensive psychotherapy for the express purpose of being able to play a goddamn videogame.
phobias often take a LONG time to overcome, if they even can be. therapy, medication, etc is VERY expensive (especially here in the us) and aren't a guaranteed fix. some people literally CANT go that route. people can have different levels of response too, for instance i have a phobia for heights, which is actually common enough that people just call it a fear of heights. mine is mild; i can fly a ultralight for a short time without freezing up and crashing mid flight but it sure as hell isn't easy and stresses me the hell out. other people have it much, much worse, having one severe enough to make you completely break down mentally and even cause legitimate damage to your body isn't common but they do exist. some people react so severely their lives are literally in danger. what you're essentially saying is about the same as telling someone with a peanut allergy they're being picky and to just use a epipen whenever they eat a pbj and stop whining about not being able to breathe or blisters all over their skin etc.
for those who didn't get the absurdity of that comparison: epipens are actually just injectable adrenaline, sounds fun but i'm like 95% certain you won't think that after trying one. they wear off fast too so the person needs to get to a hospital asap and get actual treatment. in case someone wants to compare their lactose intolerance or mild allergy to a severe food allergy: food allergies can be very serious too, for many severe cases if they don't suffocate first their immune system will wreck all their innards and they'll die from multiple organ failure.
that all being said i think this is better left to a modding community and relegated to mods; game developers cannot and should not be expected to cover every phobia out there, and if you have a particularly severe phobia you'll definitely have some awareness of it and be able to find community mods for the game before downloading. if enough players demand a filter for a particular phobia then the developer may add it into the game officially i.e as lethal company did however that should be left up to the developers.modding communities usually produce better results too ive noticed.
demanding a developer to try and cater to your particular problems is just unrealistic, they're trying to make a game. ask someone else or learn how to make them yourself. you don't have to see the models/sprites to replace them in game files, assuming you can access them somehow that is. its not easy for closed-source games but it is possible.
so instead of them adding a feature to make it more accessible so people can play the game they have to go through therapy to play it, sounds reasonable.
By emphasizing everything, you emphasize nothing. Italics should be used sparingly to drive home a specific point.
Well, it's not a spider, so it would have to say "Centipede" instead, but the word could be written over and over for the entirety of its length.
I really understand you. For some reason, it is in the newest version that cockroaches cause me more inconvenience than in previous versions. In my opinion, they didn't get bigger before. I had to ask my friends and relatives. And when the Centipede appeared on its own (I didn't summon it) I had to shut down the game. But cockroaches are my main problem ((((((. They appeared then because of they put pieces of flesh in my locker, and I also didn't know that they also appeared because of potatoes. This has never done this before.
"Make it so the horror game is less scary"
Bro why would they even add it if people weren't scared of spiders?
Because for people with phobias, it isn't "scary", it's debilitating and stops them from being able to actually play the game. My friend LOVES horror, but literally can't stand centipedes to the point of feeling physically ill. I don't think an option to swap the centipede with a snake or something like that will totally RUIN the game's atmosphere.
I agree with this, or maybe some kind of item that you can craft cheaply similar to a nail where if you attach it to a prop then the reset will ignore it or a radius around it...?
it's probably difficult to specifically filter out what was placed intentionally by the player vs what was not intentionally modified... but it would definitely be nice to be able to reset events without also resetting items. maybe this would allow for duplication of event items, so probably you would have to be careful...
The base you are in is decades old and so the tech will reflect that, the stuff you get sent is modern technology as the game takes place around the current year.
When you actually look at what systems are used in fields of technology, there are many reasons why old systems are used as opposed to new ones.
Robust: Older vetted systems are quite robust, even if you have to reboot or recalibrate them frequently. For example, Mainframe systems. There are still Mainframe systems that were manufactured and applications created for them during the 70's still in use to handle phone call traffic. Most run 24x7 for years on end without one single issue, and some that seem to need monthly maintenance. Still, just to replace one system may cost 1000x the cost of a single very expensive repair.
Research project funding: Research funding is very hard to obtain on long running projects due to lack of public interest. Some research obtains a lot of funding at first, such as for a deep space radio detection array, but after running the same project for lets assume 50 years and not having any substantial evidence, or high number of disappearances, you are just one catastrophe away from having the entire project dropped. Real life example of no evidence and lack of funding is the Arecibo Observatory and the SETI Project.
Information Secrecy: Have you ever wondered, why you need these hash codes? Why they only want very specific ones, and how they might pertain to the signals you send them? Hash codes can be used to decrypt data. You collect data from space that no matter how you process it, it still sounds and looks like a mess. You could also receive radio signals that the frequency of which fall outside of the range of the playback equipment, so you never see or hear it, but it is still contained on the drive.
Don't update the equipment. Keep it antiquated. It adds to the realism of the experience.
I agree. It's the reason I'm staying on 0.8.1 for now. Screens are less coherent, less readable with 60% of unused space bombarding you with brightly colored metal. It's really not comprehensible. For example why does the ping cooldown now have separate reduntant screen (timer is still there) with fast moving ascii signs flooding the screen. Really distracting and poor for my eyes. Why does signals now have bars instead of percentages? It will make setting them longer and more tedious. Screens are smaller so signals look worse. Resolution on radar is a complete pixelated mess. In short, not a huge fan of new computer stations.
Oh and hitboxes on buttons are wonky.
The signals still have percentages, they are on the screen with the signal information.
The console isn't getting any model changes, but it will be made more monochrome and less colorful (beige > white/gray, no colored stripes).
Ah I see it now thanks. Didn't notice it, guess I wasn't prepared for it to change and my brain shut down. I bet it's a case of getting used to it but toning down colors would be a good change.
although there's no way to make the screens less cluttered, you can change the color scheme in gameplay settings, ofc it doesn't improve visibility that much, but making it white seems to help a bit for differentiating if you have some trouble/it gets strenuous to look at orange on black. maybe this has been a feature for a while, but i have no clue lmao
i feel like those are made to represent decade old hardware, espically considering how slow they are without upgrades. i think it be best if you could customise them somewhat to make them look modern or even sci-fi
It actually plays into the lore of the game way better. Perhaps consider you just feel a sense of nostalgia about older versions of the game and not expect them to change it back
Late to the discussion, sorry — but I entirely agree.
There's already a very, very basic mod out there that allows for multiplayer, though it's more a proof of concept than anything actually fun. I say this as a massive fan of the game, and someone who thinks playing it solo is THE best way to experience the game, but multiplayer would be pretty fun and a good way to add replayability.
I think I'd love to see the second player either take the role of Ena or, hell, given it wouldn't strictly be the canon mode, even an Ariral character or just a player-controlled Omega Kerfus would be really fun to see.
I know it'd be really hard to implement, both because of networking and also because of how a lot of the events are scripted, so I'm not holding my breath for it—besides, Dr Nose has final say on whether or not he even wants multiplayer as part of the base game—but I don't think it'd ruin the experience.
The fridge was made immovable because it caused issues. I do think the mini fridge should function like the actual fridge rather than just a container, though.
Just find another way to move around large objects if not the garbage bins, they still work for this, they just don't have infinite space in them anymore and thus can't hold certain huge objects.
ok how can i move a huge object that cant be put into a container through a doorway smaller than it
printer? or maybe he's trying to put something unconventional in the base, like the toyota
You are definitely not on the latest release then, as both them having plugs and plugs unplugging from sockets on reload have been removed.
Okay so...
After seeing this, I checked my Votv install folder and I saw what went wrong. Even though the itch.io app had the update button that I hit, and such. It wasn't launching the new release build that it had just downloaded/updated. It was trapped in the classic 7z file in the directory. :')
Extracted, loaded up. Not only are the plugs gone, but the new drive boxes are there too.
Thanks @Bearsjunior 💙💛
Scraping events doesn't get rid of the entity, you still have to deal with whatever you scraped.
actually I just tested it, you can hold the button down and it efficiently charges it
This post was made during the first or second iteration of the flashlight, before that was added.
that would be a fun mechanic but the game is not that greatly optimized so the game will lag massively for lower end users, but its not a bad suggestion i really like that idea
Это была бы забавная механика, но игра не так уж и оптимизирована, поэтому для слабых пользователей она будет сильно тормозить. Но это неплохое предложение, мне очень нравится эта идея.
On one hand, it would be cool, but I feel like it could ruin the atmosphere of complete solitude. I’d really love to see more mysteries and various events, but of course, it’s not that simple(
P.S.: As for aliens similar to SCP-096, to be honest, I don’t feel fear anymore, just disappointment. :(
С одной стороны это было бы круто, но мне кажется это могло бы подпортить атмосферу полного одиночества. Я бы действительно хотел бы видеть больше тайн и всяких разных эвентов, но это все конечно не так просто(
P.S: От пришленцев похожих на SCP-096 я уже если честно испытываю не страх а разочарование. :(
You can see deer but not interact with them currently, there will be more wild animals in the future.
There are already hostile event versions of said animals, though.
has been there since new base its prob for recovering items if they falk through the floor which sometimes happen
Same problem. At first I thought that I was doing something wrong, but it seems that this is not only my problem. It's quite hard to remember the names because of this. It would be great if you could switch the scroll on the console to the one on the computer. Not only use j and k keys.
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Stolen from replies under my post (which is essentially just the same as what you said, new computer 6leh)
"The base you are in is decades old and so the tech will reflect that, the stuff you get sent is modern technology as the game takes place around the current year."
"The signals still have percentages, they are on the screen with the signal information.
The console isn't getting any model changes, but it will be made more monochrome and less colorful (beige > white/gray, no colored stripes)."
I think it's kinda pointless to have the colourful bar then? You can still just look at percentages, it's just on smaller screen than it was on before. I understand why the update was made but it gave us two times smaller screens
i mean, polarity filter did fill up in the previous version aswell to convey %'s, and frequency would get more and more squeezed closer you were to 100%
Yeah but i want exact numbers not approximate. I'm not saying what update is bad, I'm saying it would be nice if screens were a bit bigger to see everything more clearly and easier
I mean, technically you aren't still able to pause. The Pause text is glitching, yeah, but the game is still running. You're not paused. At the same time, there is a nice shock to having something you expect to work to not work in its entirety. Now I'm conflicted.
I do like being unable to pause over opening the menu without pausing, but it it is mainly for what you CAN do when you have access to the pause menu, you can change settings and read the help menu which can help you figure out what to do.
I feel like it should be some middle ground where you normally can't pause, but there would be some way to open the menu if necessary. Maybe pressing Esc normally plays the deny sound without opening it, but if you hold Esc for a bit it opens the menu. Something like that.
that’s a great idea, i just really miss the horror aspect of not being able to pause, but making it harder to pause is a great idea.
I am... so confused by this perspective, and am opposed. We still can't pause during events, you can just open the menu so you can read hints and change settings. I want us to be able to pause fully and I don't care about the immersion, it's an accessibility issue to not be able to pause. If you want the increased fear, don't pause the game.
there is an extreme combat setting its at the furthest right column in the options menu.
If more alien reputation systems are added, why not just use the other existing alien factions? They won't probably won't have a "base" but we already have some known relationships between them.
The Rozitals are allied with the Arirals, and they even try to protect the few arirals we meet that are just having a vacation on earth here from a threat.
The Grays are hostile to everyone, so could you even try to get on their good side? (IF they even have one.)
The next faction to show up isn't here yet, so we will have to see what they are like. They do have some kind of relation with the grays, don't know if good or bad.
..Could you even try to reason with an autonomous alien construct that shoots you on sight?
True, that is a good idea, however the relations between these factions seems like it's predefined, so if one wants to combine them (like getting ariral reputation increases rozital reputation but lowers grey reputation and vice versa), it would remain predictable. Though such interconnected reputation between the factions would still be a cool balancing act as long as there's a tradeoff.
This might be a frequently given type of feedback, however in my opinion a quite necessary one. I really enjoy the game for its atmosphere and unique ideas, as well as the amount of detail in practically every interaction. But in terms of user experience, I find some interactions terribly cumbersome.
Some of the basic gameplay user interface elements (for example the inventory and the hotbar) are way to overcomplicated for the simple purpose they are supposed to have.
Also requiring a extensive tutorial with multiple walls of text is a very poor first impression to a game. It would be way more elegant to slowly introduce players to all concepts.
I get that the current way of solving these issues might be a placeholder, to quickly build more relevant features. But I would kindly suggest having a gameplay designer or user experience designer on your team in the near future to improve on some of the said cases.
I attached a few pictures to showcase some very quick and dirty overpaints that clean up a few usability issues I encountered. I tried to keep it as close to the original style as possible, as I found it quite charming and unique. To be very clear: This is in no way a final idea, just a quick sketch to elaborate on why I believe the user interface deserves a few changes.
Original Hotbar
Overpainted Hotbar
Changes:
Original Inventory while Using an Item Container
Unfinished Overpaint (Would Take to Long) of Inventory while Using an Item Container
Changes:
I hope my feedback is of value. If not that's also fine, because I enjoyed working on this for a few happy minutes of my freetime.
- anti
Giving this my 2 cents. I personally believe the hotbar is a hot mess right now, and I have 2 ideas to fix it.
1. You can "favorite" items where you can assign an item to have priority on a hotbar slot.
2. The hotbar no longer automatically gets filled by items in your inventory. You have to manually set what items go into your hotbar and which slot.
Personally speaking I both love and hate that hotbar gets auto-filled. Sometimes, it's very useful to switch to things you've just used, but sometimes, especially when you collect trash - important items get shifted away.
I think that having both - an auto-fill, and an option to "favorite" items would be the best.
I definitely agree with this, this was my first version to play this game in and it felt like I actively had to force myself to learn the controls instead of them being really intuitive, it created a large hump where i only continued to play and learn the controls properly because i heard that this game was good, but it could very easily turn people off from the game
Going to a new area sounds too much, but having other tasks other than hash codes and signals - such as analyzing stuff, which could appear out of nowhere, or fall out the sky, or be mailed - seems like a fun idea! Especially if analyzing them would either require specific items, actions, or some kind of new puzzle game.
Please increase nails' "power" and make them work like actual nails, and not chewed gum
There is a lot of potential to create custom stuff, such as upgrading ATV - but nails fall off so easily and ATV driving is so messy, you have to crawl like a turtle not to break everything off it (meanwhile hooks are unbreakable and never detach)
And the last part of the image - Kerfur having a beacon on him would save so many nerves since that idiot loves to stuck in any terrain he possibly can
Then it will get up, but in a wrong place, like half a meter away from a wall. And when you try to push it towards the wall, it will fall over again.
Are you just grabbing it or are you dragging it? If you hold shift as you grab a heavy object, you will start dragging it, it will try to follow your movements without falling over.
I'm not lowering my dpi to 700 something to get the correct sensitivity, no one should have dpi below 1600 for latency and pixel skipping reasons.
Yes please! And default "calibration degradation" for antennas too, pretty please! It was so underwhelming when I found out that in Ambience mode (or Ambient mode?) servers (in base or at antennas) never break and that antennas never go below calibration 100% ...
The only thing I did notice to still "go down" is transformer power, but I didnt notice if it goes down at a slower rate (than story mode) or not.
You only see this motion blur if you are rapidly whipping your camera around. As someone who absolutely hates motion blur, is it really that much of a problem for you?
Post processing adds blur to my game, as i have a piece of shit pc, i have everything on low, but post processing 0 bc of the blur
Some of the story events are easy to miss as well - such as rambling sounds on day 5.
This is low-key why I've stopped cleaning the windows any more, I can get having to clean it monthly but like, daily or even bi-daily? No thank you, LMAO.
I think you can't fix it yet. It just says repair because it uses the same text as the oven i think.
Walls aren't just for practical reasons, they are primarily used by a bunch of the community for decoration, could be expanding existing things like adding onto the desk or even making an entirely new structure somewhere out in the world.
You do need to remember this is also a sandbox game where you have the freedom to decorate your base, things like this don't necessarily need an obvious practical reason to exist.
The hot plate was added before the microwave could properly cook raw food and before any of the other ways to cook food were added, so it is kind of obsolete at this point as everything else is better than it, but they also can't really just remove it now because it is a feature that some people use.
With all the weapons being worked on, to me - it seems that walls are mostly for building defensive bases.
I just hope that game would continue to retain its eerie horror spacey creatures style, and not turn into a survival game (with all of these fishing, cooking, chopping trees, farming plants, farming honey, etc features).
The main console texture is going to be made more neutrally colored at some point, with most of the orange removed and the beige becoming plain white. You can also customize the screen colors in the settings, under Game.
The radar changes can be useful, like compass targeting any specific location on the map with the press of a button which is great for entity hunting.
The save system changes are for the new backup system, works similarly to quicksaving but it saves as a separate file. The key should be in binds.
Why even post this if you ASSUME the dev will just ignore it. You sound like a literal child.
I personally feel like a major part of the radar is how you only know exactly where an entity is when you are inside the base, and have to go off just an approximation when you are outside it.
You can target the location of a radar dot, but it doesn't live update, and I do know that annoying feeling when the entity dot you just went after is nowhere to be seen when you arrive.
My idea would be having the handheld radar (sandbox item) actually function like the radar and not a metal detector, so you can see entities X meters around you on the fly, but no further than that. Would help in seeing if the entity is actually still there.
I believe this is random-ish. i've heard of people getting the meat rain on the first day and some never get it. probably just got lucky (or unlucky) to get it so soon.
Noticed that there are no lags on any other small levels:
For me it's 44% screen size, every other graphic setting is disabled - still occasional freezes in campaign world
100% screen size, all kinds of graphic settings - no freezes on tutorial/debug/etc levels
Of course smaller levels have much less objects, but it's GPU that spikes up in main world, not CPU. My bare guess is that game renders many things that potentially could be unrendered (things you can't see, things that are far away, etc)
Most things do seem to have proper culling, you can see objects or entire chunks of the map unrendered for a split second if you whip your camera around or open a door.
Distant object rendering is decent too, low view distances hides pretty much everything far away if it isn't directly a part of the map or something giant that you should obviously see.
and the new computer fist the style and atmosphere of the game PERFECTLY having so much top of the line tech but still having an old computer it really add to the vibe
Do not forget that the game is still at the development stage, and optimization is not in the first place now.
True. But I would like it to be playable, and the irregular (yet when occurring persistent) nature of it suggests a different issue than just development stage optimization.
Also I love the game to death and would love to be able to continue playing it.
its not you everyone has this problem, dev doesn’t really optimize the game at all (not to be mean to dev but pwease get someone to optimize your game) i have a pretty good laptop that can run movie graphics in warthunder but struggles getting a stable 30 fps.
When 1.0.0 is near the dev will optimize his game for the steam release (im not sure but this is from what i have heard)
You can interact with everything while in rag-doll mode but i guess not the doors than but you can open the doors by holding an object that you can hit stuff with so if you hold a wrench or crowbar you can punch the door a bit and it will open and you can get through it will take some time though
Wdym the TV doesn't work anymore? You need to plug it in. Also make sure custom content is enabled.
You can't have multiple TVs of the same type anymore, additional ones just don't function. You can have a medium TV and a Plasma TV, but not 2 Plasma TVs.
You could originally have multiple TVs of the same type, but the extra TVs were extremely buggy and basically non-functional, so they now simply just removed the ability to use multiple of the same TV.
There is no speech in the game, but there are many sounds, the source of which is interesting to search for. The presence of subtitles, for example, "somewhere in the distance a strange noise is heard" could not have allowed me to miss the arrival of one guest, who was quite audible, but I was focused on something else at the time and missed it.
So far there is very little, if any, dialogue in the game. Closed Captions would be a nice touch though!
Dude, the game is in development, things are not stable and a lot is still being worked out. It is normal that something starts to work differently, these are not the principles of the developer, he is looking for the optimal solution for all problems
You only encounter the things that can crash the game if you play for like 6+ hours straight uninterrupted. You could say the same about dying, it has the same result of resetting your 3D prints while also being much easier to occur.
Even being able to nail them in place while open would be a welcome addition, that way it's possible with the hammer if only just a little tedious.
if you hang a glowstick in the frame it keeps it open (in addition to providing light), though i dont think this persists through saveloads (props used to keep doors open through saveloads pretty consistently but it doesnt seem to now, or at least it wasnt for me)
Souhlasím, to mě tam taky štve že nejde některé dveře nechat otevřené. Proč někam strkat glowstick když to jde udělat jednodušše.
Nebo ještě jednodušše přidat možnost na dveřích s nápisem STOP nebo DVEŘE/STOP pro ty méně chápavé,
a nebo DVEŘE NECHAT OTEŘENÉ ale tato možnost má zbytečně dlouhý název
its probably going to be wayyy to laggy if they implement it now but it would be fun for future updates
With the new blood textures, the blood effect now looks outdated compared to the other blood textures.
The new bleeding effect seems to just be a better version of it, so it should probably also replace the other instances of this blood visual.
I agree, these crescents look unnatural, as if there was a can of paint there. Blood drips and leaves round marks according to the laws of physics, it does not choose the shape in which it spreads
Try rebinding things in settings to what is comfortable to you, some of these binds you described definitely aren't the normal default ones.
Co znamená pojem svázat své věci? Ikdyž nastavím v nastavení ZAHODIT PŘEDMĚT na jiné tlačítko pořád hlasí NENÍ MÍSTO !
Možná se blbě chápeme,tak se zeptám jinak. Jak položím kufr když ho automaticky drží v ruce? Za mě je tam jediná možnost a to, ZAHODIT PŘEDMĚT písmeno R. Když zmáčknu písmeno R-ZAHODIT PŘEDMĚT dostanu odpověd není místo. Nevím jestli je blbě nastavený český jazyk ale zahodit předmět u nás v České republice známená ZAHODIT a né že mi vyskočí ikona NENÍ MÍSTO a kufr drží pořád v ruce
For some time now, the big recipe book has no recipe. Instead, there is a notebook with the full recipe in the bunker.
Do you mean the parts of Kerfur-O or Kerfur-O itself?
For the parts, you need the recipe book to craft them. Check the kerfur document binder for the recipes if you still can't craft them to see if you are missing something.
For the Kerfur, you need the head, chest, pelvis, 2 arms, and 2 legs. You do not need the recipe book to assemble it.
I agree, probably my biggest gripe with the game. Some stuff just feels weird and out of place.
If you are turning off shadows, you can also turn off sunlight at the bottom of the Effects tab. It gets rid of the cast light emitted from the sun itself, while keeping the passive lighting during the day.
Some "Find location" achievements seem kind of bugged, and you can just get them randomly whenever. You should usually know when you have gotten one legit, because the thing that caused it will be nearby and visible.
The alarm clock is already there, you just need to buy it. And it is also set up and wakes up at a certain time
The tutorial could definitely have some work done on it. Some stuff is badly explained; explained decently, but there is enough other stuff around it that people just gloss over it; or just not explained at all.
I feel like it does expect the player to check the Hints menu, which is somewhat valid, cause it actually has a ton of useful info when you read through it. Only issue is, it doesn't tell you to, and nobody actually checks the Hints menu when they need help.
0.8.2b added an Item Box to the storage room above the garage, with a little note telling you how to use it. Selling the trash should probably be at least hinted at, rather than directly telling the player to do so. It does have more uses than just selling it, and directly telling the player to sell the trash will probably just make them not explore any of its other uses, like turning it into useful crafting materials that actually sell for more than the bagged trash.
The game is... generally not the most optimized. For now I recommend you turn off volumetric lighting and set shadows to 0 and the sun rays to 0. All of that and set the resolution to 80~ or something.
It's the same story with fps. As soon as I turned off all the shadows, everything was fine.
Let's imagine that setting the frequency is a game with cars. One car can drive in a straight line, from one side of the road to the other. The second car moves in a circle. Somewhere on the road there are points where the car must stop. The regulators that you turn are the gas pedal, only it works like the volume knob on an old radio - when the louder, the faster the speed.
Your task is to stop the cars at the specified points, which are designated by numbers. You turn the knob, increasing the speed to find this point, but you need to slow down to stop in time. Stop the car at the right point. If necessary, back up a little.
Sorry if the text looks a little strange, I am not in a position to check the translator right now.
Or at least have an alarm clock be in the base by default, maybe taking place of the bedside clock. It feels kind of like a novelty item, given that there are other directly provided ways to know the time to wake up that are easier than setting an alarm clock for a specific time.
I don't think anyone is going to be really expecting multiplayer to be added that much if they actually read the literal first FAQ entry on the game's page, stating that multiplayer is unlikely to be added.
"Q: Will there be a multiplayer in the future?
A: Most likely not, due to the lack of networking experience and lack of foundation for net in the game."
Why do people post about multiplayer every day? The dev has said he doesn't plan on adding it. If you want it there is already a mod being made for it because the game does already have mod support. The multiplayer mod was working with the one of the last versions i believe but it was buggy.
"Why do people post about multiplayer every day? The dev has said he doesn't plan on adding it. If you want it there is already a mod being made for it because the game does already have mod support. The multiplayer mod was working with the one of the last versions i believe but it was buggy."
-A reply to the literal previous feedback post that was also about multiplayer.
TL;DR: dev doesn't plan on official multiplayer, but there is a mod for it in the works
If a mirror is added to story, it should probably be an optional purchase. There are functioning mirrors in sandbox (one with a proper model, basically seems ready for the normal game) and one in a secret, but they are pretty laggy.
I remember seeing potential stuff about alternate Kel outfits and damage textures, so those would likely come with the mirror and better animations.
This game is a slow-burn ambient horror survival job simulator, where hours can go by with little to nothing happening.
A ton of horror exists in this game, and a lot of it is scripted to happen, but don't expect to be immediately thrown into it. Things start to pick up pretty much immediately after week 1 of Story Mode.
The transformers are meant to be something to maintain that forces you to go far outside, so adding a remote way to reset them would pretty much defeat the entire point of them.
The tutorial does explain selling items in the Interactions section, saying to put the box on the delivery point. Item boxes are further explained in a note inside the base, next to one.
Downloads are far from that slow, even at minimum upgrades and max power consumption. If it is taking several days to download one signal, you are severely neglecting something that affects download speeds. Could be broken servers, or you have not calibrated your satellites in a long time.
Зайдя в панель для поиска сигнала, по нажатию Shift появляются стрелки, указывающие, где есть доступные сигналы, к ним нужно двигать курсор. Сигнал может пропасть, пока ты двигаешь курсор, это нормально, потому просто ищем следующий. Когда найдёщь пульсирующий круг, наведи курсор радара ближе к его центру и нажми Enter. Через пару секунд прозвучит один из двух сигналов: положительный или отрицательный. При отрицательном сигнале нужно снова искать сигнал. После положительного ты сразу услышишь, как тарелки начинают разворачиваться в сторону этого сигнала. Это всё, что требуется сделать на данной панели. Жди, когда все тарелки наведутся на сигнал, после чего переходи к следующей панели с настройкой фильтров.
I feel like part of the initial problem is definitely the required material amounts for a wall. Making a thin wall barely costs anything, but you expand it out by one tile and it instantly doubles the required materials.
I think there should be a falloff in the required bricks depending on the wall size, so smaller walls still require around the same amount of material as they currently do, but slightly larger ones won't cost hundreds of scrap to make in comparison.
Obviously not too much of a falloff (or limit it), so it doesn't trivialize making insanely large structures that would currently cost thousands upon thousands of bricks that you definitely shouldn't be making anyway.
You don't have to run around the dishes and request hash codes again. Just go to the server room at the base and look at all the codes on the console
I like where you're going with this; give Dr. Kel a body pillow. Make it behave sort of like custom posters!
Yeah i know you can get out there and i know there are some easter eggs around but i mean like an actual map expansion.
I've noticed that the dead/low-charge batteries are the first ones taken out of the stack.
I do have to agree though, going to change the flashlight's dead battery only to swap it with another dead battery is kind of annoying.
You can use the keybinds to move objects into storage. just holding the number next to the move or hold option will cause you to move them all very quickly. Same for all the other commands like grabbing things from kerfur and turning on the pc. That's why they have the numbers next to them. Also the "labyrinth" is just an out of bounds area. You are teleported there, or less likely some other place, whenever the game detects that you have clipped out of bounds, it just so happens that hopping on the vending machine can cause you to clip into the ceiling leading to the out of bounds teleportation.
>"You can use the keybinds to move objects into storage"
my issue is specifically moving things OUT of storage, since you can't use the keybinds for that and have to click the thing each time
>"Same for all the other commands like grabbing things from kerfur and turning on the pc."
what are you talking about???? OF COURSE I KNOW THIS??? my issue with Kerfur-O holding items is that you can't directly grab the item itself back, you have to manage around and look at him, then go to Take_object and then you can hold it, which is less convenient than doing like you do with literally every other item in the game and just looking at it then pressing E
>"Also the "labyrinth" is just an out of bounds area [...]"
yes i know about the labyrinth, that's why i mentioned it by name. my "issue" is just commenting on the fact that you can access it very easily by climbing the vending machine. i did it to let the dev know about it and asking to leave it in the game IF it wasn't intentional since its so out of the way (and 1: the game saves right before you get sent there so it wouldn't break anything anyway and 2: its just a fun thing! like the triangle next to the mailbox to go under the base)
You aren't softlocked if you save at 0 HP normally, as it sets you to like 0.001 health when you load in. You only get softlocked if something is actively killing you when you save at 0 HP, like radiation or bleed damage.
Maxwell's music being quiet after being found is intentional, because it could originally somewhat take away from the horror. Though, with the existence of The Funny Setting that unlocks similarly silly things that can also take away from the horror, it feels a bit obsolete now.
if you take enough damage to get killed you will probably be bleeding right after it, which will probably kill you when you go back. im speaking on experience, but yes, technically if you aren't bleeding or dying of radiation i guess you could survive it???? the only thing is that when i went to edit the save file so i wasn't dead, my hp value was at 0
my only concern about this is if the game autosaves when you're already dead or if you're bleeding when you're about to die. the game 100% shouldn't be able to be autosaved if you're dead and your screen is red and shit. what's more discussible is: if you should be able to save while dead, if the game should (auto)save things that could kill you once loaded (like bleeding), and if there should be any external system that would fix specifically this problem (as in a failsafe or something that prevents you from spawning already dead, or even something you can do in the load menu to unstuck yourself, at least without wiping your inventory)
or you can just get fucked and go back 10 or so minutes worth of progress L bozo shoulda saved every step you took
have it in your inventory and while grabbing (not holding) something next to a wall, press middle mouse button. its really janky and it has to be still for a second or two before you can actually glue it
That isn't glue, that is just an individual feature that does not require it. It's just meant to help with nailing objects down/together that are off the ground by holding the object in place without player input, so it isn't meant to stay between reloads.
I was also initially salty about it, too, but I soon came to see that sandbox has it's reasoning to be locked behind at least a certain point of the story. This is an atmospheric simulator horror game, and sandbox I feel gives far too much freedom to the player to just be unlocked right off the bat.
There is a level of discovery in the game that I feel instantly having sandbox unlocked would potentially discredit. Normally by the time you unlock sandbox, you have likely experienced enough of the game and it's story content that you are "worthy" of having access to the ability to mess around with it. But if sandbox was instantly unlocked, rather than experiencing an discovering everything in the game naturally over time, a new player could just go through it all at once with cheats.
Additionally, sandbox doesn't let you move items outside of sandbox saves without exploits, so you wouldn't have been able to do anything with the spawned keycard anyway. Unrestricted cheat access outside of sandbox does exist as one of the Patreon supporter rewards.
I think the sandbox is closed for the player's safety, so that he doesn't spoil anything interesting that can be found in the story mode.
I feel like most of the smaller mysteries in the game are meant to just be a thing that the player discovers and thinks about on their own, with little to no handholding or direct messages telling them why.
An observant player can probably connect some of the dots. Their shrimp has begun randomly disappearing, and the camp they found in the forest also has empty shrimp packs in it, so they might connect the dots and think "Whoever lives here likes shrimp." After touching the box or stealing something, a player might notice the Slapper before they get hit, or they might not and simply be clueless as to what happened.
I understand the game isn't supposed to be handholdy, and I think that's fine.
I suppose I only get frustrated when I actually die. I don't mind not understanding things, but when I get kicked back to the main menu and am loading a save, I am being directly punished. Punishing the player for something you don't want to dissuade is a mistake imo.
If my experience is the intended one, that's fine. But from my perspective it doesn't feel great, and the stuff with the gun feels misleading. (there were no shrimp packs fwiw, the only items there were the lamp, chest, and the "too hot to pick up" item.) (also, afaik there is only 1 shrimp pack in the game, so like it's a singular dot to try and connect) I did find the shrimp packs when reloading my save and looking again.
Like if I hadn't looked stuff up, I probably would assume the aliens are always hostile, and never try to interact/investigate with that part of the game again. This is the first direct encounter with aliens I've had, so I would probably assume all aliens are hostile, and that the game operates like any survival horror at this point.
I agree really hard with this, I just started playing the game and even after the tutorial I feel like I have no clue wtf I need to do to avoid dying. I only got to day two before the sun turned into a black square and an invisible skeleton killed me by ragdolling me into a corner. This game seems really really cool and I want to get into it but it's really hard to commit when I keep dying to shit that feels totally random.
There isn't really that much you need to know about avoiding death in this game. You mainly really only need some basic survival instincts, like eating food so you don't starve to death, not jumping off cliffs, establishing what things are dangerous so you know to avoid them, etc. There is zero punishment for death other than being sent back to your last save, so you can spend as much time as you want learning what is or isn't dangerous and subsequently how to deal with it.
Though, I will not lie that some deaths can absolutely be BS. Physics sometimes randomly bugs out and kills you, and some pretty bad luck can cast upon you insane dangers when you aren't prepared for them in the slightest.
You got a combination of 2 things:
On the 24th of any month IRL, a guaranteed event will happen where the sun will become censored and begin killing you. There isn't any way to deal with it directly other than just waiting the day out, so you simply just chose a bad day to start playing.
From your description of it, it sounds like you then encountered the Insomniac: a hallucinatory manifestation of your lack of sleep. It appears when you are below 20 stamina, and can be banished simply by going above that threshold by any means. It is normally pretty harmless when it catches you past the initial scare, but it sounds like physics bugged out and killed you when it caught you.
Предполагаю, что это из-за синего пластикового ящика. Это его баг. Некоторым помогает зачерпнуть ящиком застрявшие предметы, некоторым не помогает. Может, можно вытащить её с помощью гравипушки, если есть.
i have, and in one save my kurfer has been stuck in the flesh room for nearly a month in game, the other kurfurs come back.
I've been playing through the newest update of VotV and have been enjoying it greatly so far! The new models have maintained the atmosphere wonderfully and I am excited to see where the story takes it. As for suggestions:
I have not encountered this problem, so I assume that you (and many others who have complained about this) are not washing the stains completely. If you shine a flashlight and look closely, you can see dirt that is otherwise invisible and it looks like the windows are clean.
Indeed I was washing them completely. I sat there on a spot until it's completely clear (I use flashlight on it as well, it's hard to see otherwise), then I move on. Before I was done with another small section on the same window there were already dirt specs on the spot I just completely cleaned. I tested this multiple times in a row to make sure I wasn't just trippin.
Just retested it in the newly released 0.8.2c and I did not have the same issue anymore, no dirt specks after waiting a full in-game day. Huzzah!
Maybe try starting a new game. lol I don't think that's supposed to happen. Maybe a glitch or something.
They might not fit in the game's old visual style, sure, but this is the new visual style that the game has been primarily using for over a year (started some time around 0.6.0 and 0.7.0).
I can understand liking the old style more, as I do like it's charm as well, but I can understand why they have gone for a more modern HL2-like style. They won't undo over a years worth of progress on the game because a subset of the fanbase doesn't like changes that have been generally well received by the rest of the fanbase.
There isn't really that much you need to know about the new visual style. Compared to the old one, it's mainly just higher resolution textures and more detail on textures and models.
As an example, here is the old MRE model (left) compared to the new one (right). Generally, the old style is more simplistic, while the new one focuses a bit more on detail.
The craft is a normal recipe like any other, so you simply just put the glue bottle on the workbench with everything else. When it says a metal pipe, it refers to [Metal scrap]
Turn on 'The Funny Setting'. It is now required for creating special Kerfur-O skins.
Alternatively, some special skins have had their recipes changed a bit, so attempting an old one might not work anymore.
There is an old rifle that you can get in the story mode i think it's located at the Lima server but the rifle just explodes when you shoot it but there are some other guns in the game files like an assault rifle with a grenade launcher and also a makarov. You MIGHT be able to get these in story mode but i have no idea how aside from mods or cheats.
You can't get them in story and likely never will be able to (via normal means). Actual guns are one of the few actively unplanned features for the main game, but there will be various alternatives when it comes to weaponry.
your pc probably uses an integrated gpu if ur fps are that bad and it isnt built for playing games.
40 fps is not so bad. Start complaining when your fps drops below 30 fps.
And no, I'm not playing on the integrated gpu. I have reassigned this in the settings and the nvidia game behaves like this too.
Triggering story events in sandbox already exists as a Patreon supporter feature, it's what the empty 'Events' tab in the cheat menu is for.
If the servers are damaged enough they can explode, and do various other things, and unfortunately if one in the alpha server room explodes it will usually cause them all to explode. You might've had a physics object or something wedged under a server and it finally collided in just the right way to trigger an explosion.
Agreed. Also bring back being unable to pause during events, it was a major atmosphere builder for me.
I'm pretty sure you still can't. The pause menu appears, but the game isn't actually paused and you aren't able to save or quit to menu. I honestly prefer this behavior over the old way because it lets people quickly access settings in case they need to adjust volume sliders or other settings.
Also, metaparanoia is easily one of the best atmosphere building features in this game. It makes it feel like the game itself is breaking under the anomalous crap in Dunkeltaler. The busted pause mechanic just adds to the feeling that whatever is messing with Kel can see you and screw with you too.
I do like this one for it's uses as well, but it personally just doesn't hit quite as hard as the old one. I'm not really sure how to describe it, but the old one makes me feel more trapped, like I have truly nowhere to hide. The new one makes me feel a bit safer, cause even if the game still doesn't actually let me pause or let me quit, that somewhat comforting pause menu still opens and I can access my settings and the help menu to change things in my favor.
Hacksaw basically instantly gets rid of them, or you can just spend a few minutes smacking them with a weapon until they break.
I really dislike how the power washers in the game work. When you're better off mopping your glass or waiting for an oversized sponge than using the hyper advanced alien pressure washer you know you've screwed up mechanically. Or maybe it's just Nose trolling us.
I legitimately think the portable pressure washer is currently the worst store purchase in the entire game: it costs 500 points, cleans like 1.5 dirt stains before needing to be refilled at a static water source, and you can even get an upgraded version of it halfway through the game for free. Pressure washers desperately need to be buffed in some way.
While i agree that the art style has changed you have to remember that A LOT of the old assets were just placeholders most likely. I do like some of the older styled assets though but also some of them would be very out of place when placed next to some of the newer assets that basically NEED to look better otherwise they would look strange or even unrecognizable. Maybe when the game releases we can get a "texture pack"-ish setting to bring back the "classic" assets.
