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I just have a good proposal

A topic by EchiSoft created 31 days ago Views: 150 Replies: 8
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Hello, I wanted to know if it is really necessary to allow 1-star reviews, and I hope some moderator sees this post.

I recently received a 1 star review, and I could tell that the added comment was loaded with a bit of hate towards the tools I use, and not as an objective opinion about the game, his comment was just a personal opinion, something that could I had left it in the comments on the game page, and it wasn't necessary to leave it in the reviews. So, is it necessary that a person who hates the tools I use can leave such a negative review?

If a person doesn't like a game, that doesn't mean the game is bad, and that doesn't give them the right to post a 1-star review just because they don't like it.

I don't know if this page is going to change this, I've searched the forums for this, and it seems I'm not the only one who has asked for a change to this rating system, but, at least they should remove the option to leave star reviews and add a simple “Like” for free games in development, I understand that for a game that has to pay to play it, reviews can be important for buyers, since they are paying for a finished product, but it is totally unnecessary to rate with a star to a free game in development, as it can negatively affect a small developer's ability to see on the page.

I hope I can receive some response, I am only making this post with the intention of making a good change in Itch.io, it is not necessary for some people to show their hate through the review system.

Moderator(+1)

If we removed the 1-star rating, then what would two stars mean? Or three? Yes, that's right. Some people are going to hate your work, and tell you. Maybe it's not nice, but people must be able to say bad things. Sometimes even if they're wrong. Were they offensive? Abusive? Make sure to report hate speech and the like. Otherwise, it's just show biz. Sorry.

I understand, everyone can express what they think about a game, but the problem is showing hatred towards a game just for using a tool to create the game. I'm going to report that review for now.

The problem is that with the current system you don't really say anything.

Your comment is not public, only the numerical value, so you can't really say anything bad or anything good.

So the system doesn't really fulfill that purpose

Admin (4 edits) (+1)

For reviews that are off-topic, inappropriate, or hateful, we recommend that you report them so an admin can review and possibly deactivate them. However, we strongly encourage developers concerned about their average rating to engage with their community and motivate those who enjoy their work to rate and review their game.

Rating systems operate by gathering opinions from a broad audience. Ideally, after receiving enough votes, you should get a fairly accurate estimation of how the audience perceives your project. The nature of statistical distribution means you will encounter opinions about your project that do not align with the average. If these ratings do not reflect what you believe your game deserves, consider encouraging more people to leave feedback. If you, as a developer, don’t agree to how this system works, you can always disable the ratings and reviews on your page. This will remove the score from your page’s metadata as well.

Currently, on itch.io, anyone can rate a game at any time. Users are not required to justify why they did or didn’t enjoy a game. Even if a review only mentions one issue, it’s possible that person simply didn’t like the game overall and that was reflected in their overall rating. We take this into account when constructing our algorithms and deciding how to weight ratings among other factors. We recognize it can be painful seeing that negative review on your dashboard, but we feel generally the best approach is to not fight the one rating, but to collect more ratings.

One last thing I want to add: Designing an effective ratings and reviews system that balances everyone’s needs is challenging. We do intend to revisit how this system functions, and we may modify it in the future. The advice I’ve provided above will remain applicable regardless of what system we implement in the future, which is another reason why we encourage developers to approach the issue in this manner.

The issue is, that it was not the game that was rated. It is discrimination. Pure and simple. Suppose I would not like a country and rate 1 star for all games I encounter that are from developers from that country. Or more related to this issue, regarding the recent Unity bad press, if I would rate Unity games 1 star out of principle.

It was AI tools here, and as far as I looked into it, it is not even what usually get's the heat in those discussions, as OP seems to draw the art, but colors it with AI. This is not much different than using advanced photoshop fillers. Or photoshop instead of drawing on paper, for that matter.

If discrimination seems the wrong word, we can call it a hate rating.

That being said, usually a 1 star rating is indistinguishable by reasons, in most cases. So just deleting it, because it was 1 star would make the star rating obsolete. The developer already has more than enough control over the page. Tags are dev chosen. Commentors can be kicked and banned. Ratings can be deactivated alltogether and so on.

There might or might not be a silent algorithm detecting dishonest rating givers and acting upon this in a non disclosed way. It is not only 1 star, but suspicious 5 stars as well.

Yes, and I had no idea of the great rejection that the community has against the AI, even if it is only used for part of the process, they still reject it and it is something sad, I did not imagine receiving that toxicity... I only do this to accelerate the development of the game, since doing everything completely takes a long time, and as you can imagine, I am the only one in charge of doing everything, drawings, animations, programming, audio, etc. But hey, the only thing I can do is publish on my Twitter how I make the drawings, and show them that not everything is done by AI. Definitely the next game I will make, I will make it completely by hand, and I will upload the entire drawing process, so I will never receive this hate again.

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 You can embed videos on your game description. I can not visit twitter. Not the least because it no longer goes by that name, but mostly because they pester you to log in to the point that you cannot view anything useful there. And I sure as hell won't make an account to see a single video. Or to mention another use case: bother to visit another site, once I am on the game description. If it is necessary to visit other sites to get the information needed, that description has failed its purpose.

Maybe use the Jack Sparrow logic. Insert meme here about the worst captain that still got known. In other words: even bad publicity is publicity.

I would rather download a game with 3/5 and 10 ratings and obvious reasons for the bad ratings, than a 5/5 with 2 ratings and no obvious reasons why no one bothered to rate, if it is so good.

If you think you have it bad, look at games that have any topic that could be considered a certain 3 letter japanese abreviation. Most often unjustified. Those games get actualy hate comments and of course ratings. It is a fun sport to look at the games those haters did comment on to find new interesting games.

People are not all dumb. Some actually will recognise and know of the existing bias concerning certain topics. Or tools. They might even be suspicous if there are not negative ratings in a game containing those controversial things. The ears of your protagonist for that matter would also qualify as such a controversial thing.

You could give some sort of disclaimer, if you feel your rating score gets too low, for the less aware players.

And you might not want to re-release your different game versions as I think you might have done. I distinctly remember seeing your stuff way before the current publishing date. You will dissappear from collections.