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Spinnortality is a cyberpunk management game where you run a megacorporation. · By James Patton

Shares and shares

A topic by listic created Mar 05, 2018 Views: 33 Replies: 5
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Currently we can buy shares (integer) in corpornations to represent how many shares (percentage) we have. That doesn't sound right. I am not a native English speaker, so I am not sure how best to put it, but maybe stock and share, respectively?

Anyway, now I noticed that although I technically have more stock in Russia, I have smaller share for some reason.

I never felt like I understood how it works, but this here moment clearly made me notice that something seems wrong.

P.S. I am not saying you have to make stock market work realistically, because that may be both too hard and make nation buyout impossible.

Very good point! I'll try to come up with a better way to explain that to users. I guess I want "Shares" and "Share power / Share percentage" or something? Or maybe "Stocks" and "Percentage owned"?

I see that in the newest build you renamed the integer number to "Stocks" which I think does reduce confusion a bit. However, I would actually like to propose that you simplify this system even more and only the percentage to players. I haven't reached the late game to know if there is more importance to the integer "Stocks" value, but right now the 2 numbering systems seem redundant and not super reflective of how the stock market actually works.

Whenever you buy shares in a company you are always buying them from someone else. This means that other shareholders stock numbers should decrease proportionally. It's uncommon for a company to release more shares on the market as it dilutes the value of each share (although they do it from time to time). So there is always one specific total number of shares and those are divided between investors. I've noticed that when I buy shares, the other investors number of stocks remains the same instead of decreasing. That gives the appearance that new shares/stocks are just created as I buy them, instead of me buying them from someone else. I suppose in the fiction of the game you could say that I'm buying these shares from outside investors that aren't the companies listed, but I'm not sure if you gain much from that.

It seems the number that players actually care about is the percentage of the company that they own. So why bother exposing an additional number to us that we should keep track of, when it seems to only inform the percentage number? Thoughts?

Also, I'm not sure if this is a bug or intentional but I don't see my own company's share % listed, like I do with the other corps. I can get a rough idea from the pie chart but I would like to see my own percentage because that's really the number I care about.

Andy, you are totally right about the redundant "Stocks" problem. You're right, I should just hide that number and show you the percentage. Even if the stocks are not bought from another company, it still "feels" fine, except for the fact that you get this extra pointless number. It's also causing some confusion with players who somehow have more stocks but less shares than the controlling shareholder. (I assume this is a rounding error.)

And you should be able to see your own share % in the latest build, I tihnk that was a scrolling issue.

Right, it's 3 months late but this issue is now fixed.