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Getting your controller connected Sticky

A topic by FPV Freerider created Apr 05, 2016 Views: 161,061 Replies: 317
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Crishnak6 years ago

Hi, great simulator/game :)

I just spent a couple of evenings figuring out how to get my FS-i6 radio connected to my Linux Mint 18.2 computer. Figured I could share my procedure. 

1) Aquire or DIY a trainer cable to use with the computers microphone input. (I tried a cheap USB audio dongle as well, but the resolution on the input was quite bad!)

2) I found the following branch of ppm2tx to work on my computer after installing some missing packages: https://github.com/rhwilr/txppm 

3) Connect controller, turn it on, launch ppm2tx, enjoy!

Before doing this, I already tested Freerider with my Arduino Micro hacked Esky USB controller, and it worked perfect!

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper6 years ago

Thank you for sharing, I'm sure that will be of help to others!

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Grimothy dogtits6 years ago

Could somebody pease help. I have a futaba 6exa and have recently purchased a 4 in 1 flight simply USB cable and dongle but when I go into calibration only 1 input per stick is being recognised although it all works fine on the other included simulators. Any help would be greatly appreciated.  :)

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper6 years ago

Here are some general suggestions that often help when a few of the channels are not recognized:
- Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected, that might cause a conflict.
- Make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.
- Make sure you have "Heli" selected as model type on your radio. ("Plane" generally doesn't work very well).
- Check if there's a switch on the dongle where you can select different modes.
- Perhaps you can remap the output channels (in the menu of the transmitter) so that it sends to another channel.

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Grimothy dogtits6 years ago

thank you for the reply free rider.  I'll have a look to see if I need to uninstall the programs and I had acro selected so maybe swiching to heli may help. As for reassigning  channels the tx is not that advanced.  I'll keep you posted as to the outcome :)

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Grimothy dogtits6 years ago

yeeehaaa I have got it to work. It seems the problem was that I didn't have the tx selected to heli as heli is not available on the futaba t6exa so I swapped to a futaba ff8 and it works perfectly.  I will be upgrading to the full version soon. Can the fpv camera angle be changed in the full version?  Thanks again fpv freerider :)

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper6 years ago (1 edit)

Great, glad to hear you got it working! Yes, the fpv camera angle can be changed in the full version. Thanks!

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thecrumb6 years ago

Kudos for providing Linux support (running Fedora 27)!  Bought a cheap USB cable, plugged it in (Turnigy 9xrPro) and it worked right out of the box!

Question - every time I run Freerider I have to calibrate my controller.  Is there a way to 'save' the initial config and reload it when starting?

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper6 years ago (1 edit)

Thanks! Glad to hear it's working on your setup.

It does in fact save the config automatically, and once you have calibrated you should never have to do it again. But, I have got several reports from Linux users that the calibration does not save (or that it suddenly 'disappears'). I haven't been able to find out why though. Perhaps it's has something to do with permissions - Unity (that is used for development) stores the data under /home/your user/.config/unity3d 

You could try checking that location to see if the data seems to save or not.

Or, perhaps Unitys input manager is not working very well with all Linux distributions.

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donaldhill@xtra.co.nz5 years ago

Hi. Ive been trying for days to get my new TaranisX9d Plus to be recognized by Freerider. Ive been through the Windows Joystick setup numerous times and its all working fine. I can use it on Velocidrone and Liftoff but no matter what  do when I load Freerider I dont even have an option of a USB Controller. The only option available is for a keyboard. I even completely removed the drivers and reloaded them. My Laptop is only a week old. Where do I go from here???? I would really like to use Freerider

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper5 years ago

There is always an option for USB controller, just click the button on the right side of the main menu repeatedly to toggle input mode.

(USB Controller/Keyboard/Touchscreen)

For it to be recognized correctly on Windows you need to set up the endpoints according to this document:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwSDHIR7yDwSOGhPMTFyWEpDVWM/view?usp=sharing

(There is also some general tips in the manual).

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tolland5 years ago

I just downloaded the demo, and it's not detecting my controller. It's the linux version running on Fedora 28. My transmitter is the FlySky fs-i6x which is connected via a BetaFlight controller. I've tested the controller in Flightgear and the joystick is automatically detected there.

Are there any logfiles, or other settings which I can try to get the controller detected?

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper5 years ago (1 edit) (+1)

I'm not a linux user myself so I'm not going to be able to be of much help here. If you have any other joysticks/controllers/drawing tablets connected at the same time you can try to disconnect those, having more than one can cause a conflict.

You might know of the jscal joystick calibration program, you could try playing around with the setting there.

Are you seeing any movement on any of the little circles as you go through the "calibrate controller" procedure in Freerider?

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redcbcup5 years ago

Hi! I bought the program and it starts both in ubuntu and in widows, and this is a good thing. I have two radios, one is the Devo7 and the other is the Flysky FS-I6S and of these radios I also have the original usb cables, and that's a good thing.

The problem is my ignorance in connecting and making these three things work.
I would like to run FPV Freerider on ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS and the Devo7 radio, who can help me by guiding me step by step? I am sixty years old and my brain is no longer elastic ;(

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper5 years ago (2 edits)

Your best bet to find specific instructions for your particular setup would be to search around for youtube videos and/or forum posts from people who have similar equipment. 

Since you have the Devo 7 that does not have a USB port it becomes a bit more tricky. You will need to connect it via the trainer port instead.

On Windows that would be pretty easy using a software called Smartpropolus. I haven't been able to find a similar software for Linux.

(Devo 7E in combination with Deviationtx would be easier since that can act as a USB joystick)

You might also be able to use a universal 22-in-1 USB dongle such as this. 

https://www.banggood.com/22-in-1-RC-Flight-Simulator-Cable-for-Realflight-G7-G6-...

Not sure if it works on Linux.

(You might also be able to connect it via  a wireless USB dongle in combination with a receiver for the Devo 7, I wouldn't really recommend going down that path unless you are willing to do a lot of research though).

It might just be easier to get a USB dummy controller such as this:

https://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-Httpwww_banggood_comWholesale-6CH-G4-XTR5_0-R...

Not sure if that works on Linux either though. So in summary, I cannot give a definite answer for such specific and hmm shall we say tricky equipment. There are so many Linux distributions and variations, you need to try it on your own setup to know what will work for sure.

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jaseduar105 years ago (1 edit) (+1)

Hello is the freerider compatible with the frsky XSR-Sim USB dongle? I am trying to use it but the freerider does not detect all channels  but if I use same radio taranis qx7 with other dongle rx2sim, it works perfectly but  I want to use the new frsky XSR-Sim dongle. 

I tried in another computer and same problem.

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper5 years ago

Yes it should work. I believe you need to have TAER channel order set up on your radio.  You can have a look at this video for instructions:

Hope that helps!
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jaseduar104 years ago

the frsky dongle works perfectly with others sims like liftoff but no luck with fpv freerider  ,

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper4 years ago

Are there a few channels that are giving input during the calibrate controller procedure, and some that does not? (You should see the movement of each stick represented by one of the little circles above the OK button)

In that case you can check:

- Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected, that might cause a conflict.
- Make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.
- Make sure you have "Heli" selected as model type on your radio.("Plane" often doesn't work very well).
- Perhaps you can remap the output channels (in the menu of the transmitter) so that it sends to another channel.

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jaseduar104 years ago

hi thanks for reply, I don't have any other controller connected, and I don't have installed vjoy, please see the video I uploaded on YouTube and you Cann see the problem, I tried in a tower pc and a  laptop and I have the  same problem 

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper4 years ago

Thank you for the video. Have you tried setting up your transmitter according to the Taranis setup document?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwSDHIR7yDwSOGhPMTFyWEpDVWM/view?usp=sharing

I think it might work if you do.

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jaseduar104 years ago

dear developer, I want to let you know that it is solved now after put the  new settings in my taranis. thank you very much 

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper4 years ago

Thank you, I'm glad to hear that solved it!

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RCmindBug4 years ago

Thank you for replying and finding a solution to the problem.  I too had the same exact issue that jaseduar10 was having.  Freerider works perfectly without any modification to model settings when connected to either directly to USB, or using HobbyKing Orange FrSky USB Dongle wirelessly.  But i feel the problem should be addressed.  XSR-SIM works with other Sims without any model settings.  Why is FreeRider interpreting inputs incorrectly when connected with XSR-Sim USB dongle only?  I have many sims, but Freerider is the one I come back to when I need to refresh my thumbs when I haven't flown in awhile.  But if we make model settings on the X9D, makes me feel differently about using FreeRider as a "Sim".  

Thanks for all your support

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper4 years ago

FPV Freerider is developed in Unity and uses Unity's input managed. I can only read what is coming through the input manager. 

With the benefit of hindsight perhaps I should have used another input manager, but currently I am hesitant to make any major changes to the input method since that might cause unexpected issues for people who have it set up working fine as it is now.

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calif945775 years ago

So when you have multiple joystick controllers/drivers it doesn't let you select which you are using.  So if you arnt using the first one it detects you are screwed. (at least that's how it seems like its acting)  Any way to fix that? Controller works fine with all other sims. Thanks!

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper5 years ago (1 edit)

Yes that's a known issue, I haven't managed to find a fix for it without changing the very core of the input system (which I am reluctant to do since that might cause other issues), so you will have to work around it by only have your controller connected.

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CodeGrue3 years ago

I think this is an important change. I have like 8 controllers connected between VR, Flightsticks, and XBox controller.

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papajoe41325 years ago

I just ordered a FlySky i6 transmitter. Will FreeRider work with this unit?

Thanks

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper5 years ago

Yes many people are successfully using that transmitter with Freerider, so it should work. 

You can have a look at this video for an example on how to get it connected:

There are also many other videos that show how to do it.
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Southern Style5 years ago

I have flown the Freerider Simulator for almost 2 years now, but on my old computer.. (WIndows 7, I think).. I now have a new computer, WIndows 10, and am using the same FrySky controller AND dongle and cord.  It will not recognize the same controller, dongle, and cord.. Is there a NEW dongle and cord that I need to purchase?  I am trying to train other pilots, so I am steering them in your direction to buy the simulator package and hardware and log into Freerider FPV... Any help would be greatly appreciated..

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper5 years ago

You should still be able to use the same equipment. The input system of FPV Freerider is the same. 

Note that if you are using a FrSky 9X/Frsky Q X7 or similar you should be able to connect it directly via USB cable (no need for a dongle). There are lots of youtube videos that shows how that is done, a collection of links is at the very first post of this forum thread.

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Southern Style5 years ago (3 edits) (+1)

Thank you so much... I will try it... Just got a NEW cable in from EBay..  I am using the FlySky FS-I6 controller, actually the exact same controller that is used in the video posted just above...  It has the connector for the back of the transmitter and a second smaller cord that makes it a USB (red light inside).. When these are used together, it works fine.. This has been the one that has always worked in the past with my old laptop and Windows 7..


With apologies, I got fat fingers.. I meant FLYSKY FS-I6

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Ozyris5 years ago

Hello. Thank you for perfect simulator! I have one issue on linux. Simulator not see joystick with pid/vid 16c0:27db (Van Ooijen Technische Informatica Keyboard), with 16c0:27dc (Van Ooijen Technische Informatica Joystick) all fine. In windows and in crrcsim all works too. Is it possible to add 27db support to linux version?

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper5 years ago

Thank you, I'm glad you like it! I'm not exactly sure what you mean since I'm not a Linux user myself. However, in short, I don't have direct control over the input - I can only see what comes through Unity's input manager (I use Unity for development). Therefore any device needs to be correctly recognized by the Unity input manager to work.

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Ozyris5 years ago

Thank you for answer. I found how to add device to Unity project, but not sure,  if it help someone except me. May be simpler to fix joystick.

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Ozyris5 years ago

Just changed PID on working device to 28db (Keyboard), and ... It still working 
Problem not in PID, will look further...

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ReggiNason4 years ago (2 edits)

Hi...my pitch channel moves this third circle, not my roll. Still wouldn't be a big deal here as I could always swap my roll and pitch channels on the Taranis. If I move my pitch up and hit OK it is saved as roll and the roll turns green; finally, when it asks for pitch. This controller is fast and long running hardware, because it has good pcb assembly and the efficient design.

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper4 years ago

Hi, sometimes the automatic stick detection gets it wrong.
Keep an eye on the little circles as you go through the calibration.
You can manually click on the circle that you see is the correct one for each stick (instead of clicking "OK")
Hope that helps!

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flysky mari4 years ago

can I connect my Flysky fs i6 sir... i have a ca

ble USB

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper4 years ago

Yes, you can have a look at some tutorial videos on how to connect it. For example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgV_YlA9pxo

There are many more videos that show how to do it, you can try searching for "flysky i6 freerider" on youtube for example.

Also there are some general advice in the user manual.

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giaccc714 years ago

Hi everyone

I just bought the simulator and tried to connect my Taranis Q X7
The radio control firmware is opentx-x7, version 2.2.3 of 2019/01/07

I did the procedure found in "Taranis Setup (PDF)", then I found this video on youtube and this one taken from the first page of this thread, but the channels of the remote control are not detected in the right way. Only 2 of 4 work correctly.

Windows correctly sees the device. Opening the property page, the slides I see move correctly in relation to what I do in the radio control

What am I doing wrong?

thank you

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper4 years ago

When you go through the calibrate controller procedure, are you able to move four of the little circles with the sticks?

Sometimes the automatic stick detection gets it wrong. Keep an eye on the little circles as you go through the calibration. You can manually click on the circle that you see is the correct one for each stick (instead of clicking "ok")

If there are less than four circles moving as you go through the calibrate controller procedure you can try these things:

- Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected, that might cause a conflict.
- If connecting via USB, make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.
- Perhaps you can remap the output channels (in the menu of the transmitter) so that it sends to another channel.

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giaccc714 years ago

Tthanks for your advice

the problem was another USB device
now everything works fine

all the best
thank you

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper4 years ago

Great, I'm glad to hear that you found the solution.

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PoLiTvS4 years ago (1 edit)

Hi!

I'm looking forward an affordable radio controller (I'm a beginner) which works well under linux (LinuxMint 19 'Tara'). Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper4 years ago

First of all, if you happen to have an Xbox/Playstation controller (or similar gamepad with two analog nubs) laying around you can try that first of all. That will not give very accurate control though. It is way better to use an actual RC transmitter.

If you are thinking of getting into the hobby more seriously my best advice would be to get a good RC transmitter right away which you can use to fly your real quads as well as practice on the simulator. For example the Taranis Q X7  is a popular radio which is good value for money I would say. It is highly likely that it will work as a joystick on your Linux machine, connected directly via USB, but you will have to try to know for sure if it works on your setup. 

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PoLiTvS4 years ago

Thx!! After researching I think I'll go with the Taranis...

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mamatdaus854 years ago

Hi.. Need Help..

I've used jumper T8SG V2 Plus to play FPV reader and it works in my PC using windows 10.....  but when I moved to use my laptop that still using windows 10, the T8sg is not full recognize by windows 10. I've calibrated it and the Y rotation is not working/detected... How to fix it?

Please Help...

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper4 years ago

Since it works on your desktop computer it should work on your laptop too. Here are some general suggestions that often help when one channel is not recognized:

- Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected, that might cause a conflict.
- If connecting via USB, make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them installed. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.
- Make sure you have "Heli" selected as model type on your radio. ("Plane" often doesn't work very well).
- Perhaps you can remap the output channels (in the menu of the transmitter) so that it sends to another channel.

You could also simply try plugging it into another USB port and see if that makes a difference.

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mamatdaus854 years ago

Hi...Thanks for your help.. it works now.. :) 

thanks a lot... :)

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper4 years ago

Great, glad to hear it's working now!

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t3uch14 years ago (1 edit)

Hello

Under MacOS the PS3 / PS4 / XBOX controller works correctly? without a dongle?

I am on Mac OS Catalina and I do not know what to buy as a PS3, PS4, XBOX360, XBOX ONE controller?

Which one works 100% under catalina?
Thank you

Bonjour

Sous MacOS la manette PS3/PS4/XBOX fonctionne correctement ? sans dongle ? 

Je suis sous Mac OS Catalina et je ne sais pas quoi acheter comme manette PS3, PS4, XBOX360, XBOX ONE ?

Lequelle fonctionne a 100% sous catalina ? 

Merci

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper4 years ago

Can't speak for what controllers will work best on your setup (especially since I don't even own a Mac myself), generally I would recommend using an actual RC radio most of all. There are models with USB connection possibility that can be found about for the same price as a Playstation/Xbox controller. And actual RC radio will give a lot more fine control. Also, since gamepads have self-centering throttle they will never be really ideal for simulator practice.

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TinyAnts4 years ago (1 edit)

SOLUTION!!!!

The important issue is that the USB drivers are almost messed up in all the three individual ones in a PC or laptop. One solution was to connect a power usb hub or in my case my hard disk had extra slots of usb that can be accessed by the pc or laptop. Then calibrate it again and save the model. Sometimes it does not work, then while calibrating try the reverse directions of the yaw or roll or whichever is messed up and finally invert them, all these have to be done is completely new usb  not the old ones. Hope this helps.

This is for windows 10. but still try for mac as well.

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper4 years ago (2 edits)

Thanks for sharing the information. Hmm it's strange that you have to re-do the calibration, you really shouldn't have to do that if you got it right once. In case it looses the calibration or there is some strange behavior like not all axis are working, it's usually some conflict with another USB device. If you have more than one input device connected at the same time (another joystick, drawing tablet etc..) that can cause a conflict.

(It might also be a problem with the USB driver. For example if you have installed vJoy/Smartpropoplus or similar software, that might cause a conflict with the USB driver).

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TinyAnts4 years ago

I checked and I have no conflicting usb drivers and no other devices connected.  But I agree the usb drivers are the problem but we can conclude without the above mentioned conflicts there can still be room for error. Few months back It was working great actually without any hassle...

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper4 years ago (1 edit)

Well, since it was working before my guess is something has changed in your operating system (There has been no changes to the input method in Freerider). I know a lot of Windows 10 users started having problems with their USB drivers some weeks back due to an automatic Windows 10 update. You might need to revert to the old drivers, you can find more information and a possible solution here:

Windows 10 USB driver fix

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk6bjS4PEWI

www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=SDnRSL3rDwM

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jon-n-174 years ago

I recently got an FrSky Taranis X9 Lite and i'm trying to get it to work but my windows PC isn't designating it as a controller, I've watched a bunch of videos and don't everything in them but I still cant get it to connect. 

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper4 years ago

Did you select "Joystick" as you connect it (not mass storage)? Do you see it as a joystick/HID-device in your Windows Control Panel>Devices and Printers ? You need to make sure that the radio is recognized as a joystick by your operating system first of all. If you are not able to get help here or by youtube videos my best bet would be do try to get help in a dedicated Taranis X9 Lite thread on the RC Groups forum for example.

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jon-n-174 years ago

Its set up as a joystick but my computer is not showing it as a joystick in devices, its showing as unspecified. I looked up more and it says something about the new USB drivers in the latest windows update not allowing taranis controllers to correctly interface with the computer.

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jon-n-174 years ago

I got it to recognize it on my computer now but when i calibrate my controller its not calibrating yaw and roll.

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FPV FreeriderDeveloper4 years ago (3 edits)

Yes, there was an automatic Windows 10 update that rolled out some weeks ago that broke the USB drivers. If anyone else is having a similar problem you can find more information here:
Windows 10 USB driver fix

youtube.com/watch?v=rk6bjS4PEWI

youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=SDnRSL3rDwM

https://batcavegames.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/16000099501-window...

Here are some general suggestions that often help when one or more channels are not recognized:
- Make sure you don't have any other joysticks/controllers connected, that might cause a conflict.
- If connecting via USB, make sure you uninstall vJoy and Smartpropoplus if you have them installed. Their driver messes with things when connecting via USB.
- Make sure you have "Heli" selected as model type on your radio. ("Plane" often doesn't work very well).
- Perhaps you can remap the output channels (in the menu of the transmitter) so that it sends to another channel.

Please note that during the calibrate controller procedure in Freerider, sometimes the automatic stick detection gets it wrong. If needed, it is possible to manually override the automatic stick detection 
Keep an eye on the little circles above the OK button. Instead of clicking OK you can click on the circle that you see is the correct one for each channel. (You will still need to keep the stick all the way in the direction shown while clicking in order for the calibration to work correctly).

There is more information in the user manual and Taranis setup document.

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